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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by troyvit on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:38AM (#50367133)
Huh, cool. If you want to save a few bucks you can go with a stainless steel French press or a mason jar if you're into cold brews. You're symbolizing a different kind of status though.

This summer was sunny and hot in Colorado, so every morning I'd make a jar of sun coffee. I'd leave it out through the day and overnight. The next morning I'd pull it in, filter it, refill it with grounds and water and take it outside again. It was cool enough to enjoy and really smooth.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by dominotw on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:49AM (#50367286)
i dont like french press coffee
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Fricken on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:57AM (#50367442)
I use a moka pot. I don't feel comfortable calling what it makes espresso but for it's still pretty decent. If I had more patience I would do pour over at home.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bulbar on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:30AM (#50367973)
Well, the moka pot makes moka, not espresso ;-).
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by matwood on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:41AM (#50379670)
Espresso-like :)
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Marsymars on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:58AM (#50367462)
FWIW, French press and cold brew are entirely different - the fact that a French press was used to filter cold brew is really kind of incidental.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by roflchoppa on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:58AM (#50367455)
I should get my cold brew setup out, thanks for the reminder.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by mathgeek on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @06:48PM (#50373041)
> You're symbolizing a different kind of status though.

Now I'm curious whether you mean a higher status (which I infer when folks are using such things) or a lower status (which I could also infer).

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bradleyjg on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:33AM (#50377116)
It’s (attempted) countersignaling.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by troyvit on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:30AM (#50379515)
Just a frugal one. For instance many of those machines touted zero waste for their coffee but the machines themselves are giant hunks of material that are destined for a landfill after a few years.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by throwaway81523 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:03PM (#50373164)
French press coffee isn't so healthy either because of stuff like cafestols in the fines (small diameter grounds) that slip through the french press screen. To get rid of those you want a brewing scheme with a paper filter. The simplest no-plastic approach is a Chemex. They have a history and they also look cool as heck. Unfortunately, since they are made of glass, they can break if you're not careful. https://chemexcoffeemaker.com/
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by hyperbovine on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:28PM (#50373387)
Which is ironic because if you’re into Chemex you’re into vinyl, in my experience.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ethbr1 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:11PM (#50382313)
I used to be into vinyl, but then I read that plastic is bad for you, so moved to wheels of steel.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by nickff on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:28PM (#50373388)
The Chemex can also be a little annoying because of the tendency of the filter to block the 'spout', causing the brewer to stall, and requiring a chopstick or straw to avoid. That said, I use my Chemex twice a week.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by VladVladikoff on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:57PM (#50374116)
What is the advantage of this over a normal paper filter coffee maker?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by throwaway81523 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:03AM (#50376051)
It's hard to find plastic-free normal paper filter coffee makers. A few exist but mostly only for small batches. Also, the porcelain or glass ones are breakable just like the Chemex. I'm a bit suspicious of copper (Hario makes one of those). Kalita has a stainless steel one but it's small and expensive. I'd be interested if you know of anything else.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Barbing on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:43AM (#50375635)
Nice lazy method: overnight cold brew + pour into a [glass] pourover w/paper filter.

Make a lot to only use a couple paper filters a week. Most days, your coffee is already ready in the fridge, no wait (unless you wanna microwave it or something).

Make it really strong and dilute with a lot of [non-dairy] milk to go easy on the stomach.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by littlecranky67 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:03AM (#50376053)
How do you heat it up then? Or is it supposed to be drank cold?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by senderista on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:13AM (#50376111)
I heat it up in the microwave all the time. Smooth as a pour-over and much less of a hassle to make.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by littlecranky67 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:57AM (#50376405)
That is the advise I got before, but I find this is super difficult to hit the right temperature. I either get boiling coffee, or luke warm.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bayindirh on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:25AM (#50376607)
When you get used to the microwave you have, you can hit the same spot every time. It's a formula depending on your cup, the wattage of he microwave and time.

I can hit the temperature I want every time on a Bosch microwave from 80s which has two power levels and a rotary, mechanical timer.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by janderson215 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:23AM (#50377862)
Also volume of liquid and temperature of liquid and cup.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by arcanemachiner on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:29AM (#50377901)
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bayindirh on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:36AM (#50377944)
I generally fill the cup to the same level, and fill it from the same source in the house in 99% of the time, so they are implicit constants in the equation, at least for me.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by teeray on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:07AM (#50378638)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by jghn on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:56AM (#50379098)
I drink my cold brew cold, although technically the "cold" in "cold brew" just implies that the extraction isn't from hot water.

I leave it on the counter to extract, and store it in the fridge.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by krferriter on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:56PM (#50382920)
This is what I do in the summer for cold coffee. Just throw a few tbsp of grounds and fill it up with water to the 32oz line and leave it overnight. Pour through a hario v60 with a chemex filter in the morning. You can also do it in batches and pour the filtered coffee into a larger jug and put that in the fridge and serve on demand from that. Filtered cold brew should stay good in the fridge for a while.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by throwaway81523 on Friday November 06, 2026 @12:36AM (#50388595)
I've never liked cold brew, though of course that's just me. Blecch.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bayindirh on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:23AM (#50376596)
If you don't want to use paper filters, you can use Swiss Gold, generic all-steel or cloth ones as well. Also there's Stanley's all steel pour-over.

When you want to go low or no plastics, there are many choices now.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by throwaway81523 on Friday November 06, 2026 @12:40AM (#50388617)
Yeah there are plenty of metal filters if you're ok with not having a paper filter. If you do want a paper filter (for health reasons or because you prefer cleaner coffee) there aren't that many choices.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bayindirh on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:26AM (#50391546)
The funny thing is the default coffee filter I always get is marked as compostable on packaging. It's probably plastic-free as well, then.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bradleyjg on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:30AM (#50377094)
Other than the fact that it does looks cool, what is simpler or better about this over a hario V60 ceramic dripper directly over a mug?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by subpixel on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:31AM (#50378320)
There is no difference only preference
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by throwaway81523 on Friday November 06, 2026 @12:38AM (#50388605)
I should have said, I like to make large batches, and wanted an alternative to a drip machine. Drip machines are typically 12 or 14 cups. I had a 13 cup Chemex but it broke (my fault). I might get a 10 cup one sometime. I'm currently using a Melitta 10 cup pourover pot, which has a plastic filter cone. I'm not yet dead from it, but I do want to move away from it.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by jimbobbam on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:34AM (#50377529)
In case anyone is wondering why a paper filter is necessary.

https://www.harvardhealth.org/healthy-aging-and-longevity/wh...

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ozyschmozy on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:33AM (#50378340)
The article doesn't really make it clear how much of an effect this has

> People younger than 60 who drank one to four cups of coffee, particularly filtered coffee, had lower rates of artery disease and death

> The study is observational and doesn't prove that filtered coffee is healthier than unfiltered coffee

> a cup of unfiltered coffee contains 30 times more diterpenes than a cup of filtered coffee

This sentence in particular is kinda meaningless without specifying the specific amounts and what they mean. For instance, saying "an unfiltered cup of coffee contains 30 times more salt than a filtered cup" would not mean much if one contains 1 ug and the other 30ug, but would be very significant if it was e.g. 1 vs 30g

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by rnadomvirlabe on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:44AM (#50378435)
Statistician here. I pulled up the article that the press release seems to mention: https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/article/27/18/1986/6125530

For all cause mortality among people without cardiovascular disease, they split into groups of men and women and then further into groups of no coffee, filter only, both brews, and unfiltered only.

For both men and women without preexisting cardiovascular disease, both brews had the lowest all cause mortality. I'd expect that "both" would be between "only filter" and "only unfiltered". It isn't because "both" is a separate population from the "only" groups, indicating that confounding may be substantial here. Nevertheless, for people without preexisting CVD, all but one of the confidence intervals for the hazard ratio is entirely below 1, and the unfiltered for men includes 1. I wouldn't draw any strong conclusions from this.

My recommendation would be to just drink your coffee, take your blood pressure regularly to see if you're hypertensive, and check your cholesterol with labs if you're regularly hypertensive.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ShinyLeftPad on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:05AM (#50380002)
It could be because people who drink no coffee already do it because of a condition (not necessarily cardiovascular), so their mortality is higher.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Melatonic on Friday November 06, 2026 @02:57AM (#50389434)
Or coffee drinkers are more active and doing things
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by heresie-dabord on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:50PM (#50386258)
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Melatonic on Friday November 06, 2026 @02:58AM (#50389436)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by seatac76 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:25AM (#50378270)
The Chemex filter do tend filter out more of the subtle coffee flavor. I find V60 to be the right balance in flavor and ease of use.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by gwerbin on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:34PM (#50384123)
You can put a Kalita-style "wave" filter over the mesh screen and get pretty close, not to mention better coffee anyway. Similar goes for the classic Bialetti moka pot, an Aeropress filter over the metal screen both filters out the cafestols and cleans up the cup in general.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by hirvi74 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:37PM (#50387463)
I have been using the same Japanese V60 for over a decade and half now. It's like a Chemex but for a single cup at a time.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by asdff on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:27PM (#50374346)
When I broke my french press I got by fine with just throwing grounds in a pot of boiled water and decanting it off after a few minutes steep. Basically all the press does anyhow just less convenient.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by seemaze on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:22PM (#50375147)
Cowboy coffee. Simple, bur effective.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by KingMob on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:01AM (#50376882)
A percolator would be perfect for you then. Plus they make a really pleasing sound!
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by hedora on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:11PM (#50375074)
If you want to save fewer bucks, get to zero plastic and get better espresso, you can buy one of these and a burr grinder:

https://flairespresso.com/products/the-flair-classic

I've had one for about a decade. It reliably produces better espresso than >99% of Bay Area coffee shops. (>95% if you exclude national chains).

If I were buying one today, I'd toss the flow control head, silicon sleeve on the cylinder and the pressure gauge, but those come with it for free now, so to each their own, I guess.

The trick is to boil the stainless steel cylinder in your kettle (PID at sea level, conventional above ~ 2000 ft elevation) with the water so that you get the temperature dialed in within a degree C or so, like a conventional (lead-filled, unlike the flair) Italian machine. I use a pair of tongs to pick up the stainless steel cylinder, so I don't need the sleeve. (Check the boiling point of water at your elevation -- unlike a steam machine, this can't exceed that temperature, so stuff might start to run kinda cool at 3000 ft or so).

Flair doesn't sell a "true" classic anymore, but I bet they could get the bare bones variant I use to < $100 if they tried. Maybe someone else will when any patents run out. My only other complaint is that the two-in-one bottomless porta-filter I have runs the espresso across plastic when in non-bottomless mode. Note that the thing I linked has a plastic plunger. They make a stainless steel one. At that point, you're down to one silcone o-ring in the water / coffee path.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by senderista on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:11AM (#50376103)
I've tried the Flair and I find the Aeropress much less fussy.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by lerchmo on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:54AM (#50376379)
Aeropress cannot really do an espresso at a full 7,8 or 9 bar. It’s more like a pour over.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by amanaplanacanal on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:30AM (#50377084)
I'm guessing the Flair can't either. That "pressure gauge" is hilarious.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Kirby64 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:21AM (#50381041)
You'd be wrong. The 'espresso' window is 6-9 bar of pressure. It's not very hard to build that much pressure, really. I have a pump based manual hand espresso brewer (the Picopresso) and it hits that pressure just fine from an even simpler mechanism.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by hedora on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:48AM (#50381362)
The Flair can definitely hit espresso pressure; I get excellent crema from it. As I said above, the biggest limit is high-altitude temperature regulation. Water boils at espresso temperature at ~ 2000' elevation, so if you're above that you cannot control the water temperature. With a pressurized machine, you can go as hot as you want.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Melatonic on Friday November 06, 2026 @03:02AM (#50389466)
What about the OXO press thing ?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bayindirh on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:26AM (#50376615)
Aeropress is accelerated drip coffee. It's not espresso by any means.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by filcuk on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:01AM (#50376885)
I hve either never had a good espresso or genuinely can't tell the difference between that as americano and an aeropress/v60. Probably best for me not to spend any more on these machines with my unrefined palette
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bayindirh on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:50AM (#50377245)
Honestly, I'd not be that hard on myself, and making bad espresso is easy in comparison to making a good one, but you don't need to go influencer levels of sophisticated spectacle to get good espresso either.

A good espresso/americano has more bite in taste than a good Aeropress/V60/drip. I personally love smoother profiles (less acidity, less bite, etc.), so darker roasts and espresso on the bitter side is not my kind of thing, but preferences differ. OTOH, I can make myself a cup of instant coffee if I feel lazy.

Again, there's no need to punch yourself like that. Try, experiment and build your taste profile. These kinds of hobbies needs some kind of experience to refine what you like and what you don't.

Most importantly, don't let anyone's taste dictate yours and vice versa. I never get upset just because how someone I know prefers their coffee way different than mine, but they insist that I shouldn't drink that coffee, because that doesn't fit their taste preferences.

There's no wrong, but only things you like. You can't fail at this, because there's no way to do so.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by kombookcha on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:22AM (#50375848)
I haven't heard the expression "sun coffee" before. Is it just a colloquial cold brew?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by zaphar on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:41AM (#50367175)
I mean, among real coffee snobs the status symbol is mostly not using a Keurig or Lavazza machine at all. Pour overs, Espresso machines, most status symbol coffee equipment is pretty light on the plastic already.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Marsymars on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:51AM (#50367332)
Yeah, my normal morning coffee for my wife and I is from a Kalita Wave glass brewer. No plastic touches the coffee. Costs $40. Ceramic or stainless steel also available.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by schnevets on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:54AM (#50367382)
I think it's less about status or quality and more about a convenient cup of complimentary coffee in a waiting room that doesn't come with two ounces of environmental guilt.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by shostack on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:09AM (#50367627)
This. Anyone serious about coffee who is not going with one of these machines purely for convenience and speed would not otherwise consider them in a million years.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by jrootabega on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:50AM (#50368278)
It's CNN. Not exactly news snobs.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by elchief on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:41AM (#50367180)
i just use a stainless steel electric kettle, and a glass ikea french press

$55ish CAD total

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by rafram on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:43AM (#50367202)
This setup does not make good coffee compared to an espresso machine.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by mcmcmc on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:47AM (#50367253)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by skinfaxi on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:48AM (#50367274)
I wouldn't consider a French-press coffee to be espresso. In fact, espresso is probably too fine for a French press.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Milner08 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:07AM (#50367597)
Nonsense. They are different drinks. Filter coffee through a French press can be fantastic, as can Espresso. You can also get dreadful espresso and dreadful filter coffee. However if you start with good beans the chance of getting good coffee out of a French press is much higher than a proper espresso machine (If you know what you're doing it can be amazing, but dialing it in properly is no easy task)
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by chocochunks on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:11AM (#50367650)
I think you mean that setup does not make good espresso compared to an espresso machine. As someone that enjoys good coffee but doesn't particularly like drinking an overly strong thimble of coffee, a cup of milk on top of a thimble of coffee or a grossly stringent cup of coffee I hate the equation that espresso is the best coffee. My favourite bits of coffee, what I enjoy in lighter roasts is lost in espresso. Espresso is nice for cafes because it's a quick non-batch brew, that's about it.

You can have good coffee from any method.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by SomaticPirate on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:42AM (#50367190)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by SoftTalker on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:12AM (#50367677)
Huh. They used to say they specifically did not offer a glass or stainless version because they would get too hot to hold/use.

Instead of a new $500 coffee maker like the ones in the article, that takes special (likely costly) presssed pellets of coffee, get a Chemex pour over for $50 and you'll never need another coffee maker again (unless you drop it).

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by jrootabega on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:29AM (#50367954)
Bodum makes a pourover thingy that is no more than $20-30. Chemex is just the "prestige" brand.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by iamnothere on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:42PM (#50369780)
How are other people supposed to understand that you’re wealthy and attractive if you buy the plebeian brand?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by plorkyeran on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:31AM (#50367997)
The original founder sold the company and the people who took over promptly did all the things people asked for and he said no to.

The glass aeropress is way more expensive ($200 rather than $30) and is bad in all the ways he said it'd be bad. Heavier, fragile, and makes worse coffee unless you put some extra effort into preheating it. Looks better, though.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by mathgeek on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @06:49PM (#50373053)
Can't say I really have a problem with them. Let them sell expensive glass ones for the folks who care about the look. I've been plenty happy with my plastic ones (including the travel set).
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Kirby64 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @06:51PM (#50373069)
> Huh. They used to say they specifically did not offer a glass or stainless version because it would get too hot to hold/use.

The expensive glass one uses double walled glass, so it’s not too bad. It’s $200 though which is ridiculous.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Schiendelman on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:54AM (#50378076)
That seems like an appropriate price.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Kirby64 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:11PM (#50381625)
Why? If don't care about the no plastic stuff, then the $40 one performs better in every way.

If you do care about no plastic... just get a Chemex, again for $45. Fully glass. Or Hario has a lot of offerings that are plastic free for $20-50.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by grich7642 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:13AM (#50367689)
It's not actually glass but a different synthetic/plastic. They do, however, make a stainless steel version. A lot of food safe stainless steel products are coated in PFAS though.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by nachbo on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:16AM (#50367734)
I own one. It's glass and cast aluminum. Pricey but feels very solid. The glass does not get hot. It's very think.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by grich7642 on Friday November 06, 2026 @10:42AM (#50393717)
Ah hadn't seen that model. I was thinking of the Clear model. Thanks for the tip.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by BobaFloutist on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:29PM (#50368769)
Now I'm going down the same rabbit hole I went down when people started talking about using wax instead of plastic, trying to determine if something being glass means it's definitely not plastic.

It does look like things we recognize as glass aren't plastic. So that's nice!

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by grich7642 on Friday November 06, 2026 @10:41AM (#50393706)
Yeah I'm mistaken. They have a glass model since I last looked. When the Clear model came out, I remember some people confusing it for glass.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ndsipa_pomu on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:36AM (#50377941)
I dropped my plastic Aeropress enough times to make a glass version impractical for me. However, they brought out a double-walled stainless steel version which is very expensive, but I figured that it was about time that I spent more money on the brewer considering I've got a more expensive Baratza grinder. I was happily using that and now Aeropress have brought out a metal pressure valve filter cap that is over-priced. So, here I am with a stupidly expensive metal Aeropress setup (I use a metal filter disc too).
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by throwitaway222 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:46AM (#50367252)
I think the status symbol is not having enough time to make it at home and also being able to afford it at Starbucks.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by christkv on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:48AM (#50367277)
So ridiculous we already have ESE pods for traditional expresso machines. We replaced the Nespresso machine in the office with a normal expresso machine so people can make bring their own ground coffee if they want but we also offer ESE pods for people who don't care but still want a good coffee.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by mvdwoord on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:48AM (#50378033)
I have been on ESE machines at home and in my office for over a decade now. Best decision I ever made. Clueless on what Lavazza is now trying to do with this new thing??

To each their own of course, but If I am a very happy owner of multiple La Piccola Piccola machines and just order a box of ESE pads every couple of weeks.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by comrade1234 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:49AM (#50367282)
I used to grind my coffee and manually make espresso. Years ago though I switched to an all-in-one. I was very adamant that it had to have ceramic grinders so that it will last forever. I've since had to replace some internal parts and I'm sure the display will eventually fail and not be replaceable, but those grinders are going to last centuries!
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by giwook on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:55AM (#50367405)
I'm assuming you've already noted in your will that the ceramic grinders be harvested from your coffee maker when everything's being sold at an estate sale otherwise what was the point of anything
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Marsymars on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:57AM (#50367429)
> I was very adamant that it had to have ceramic grinders so that it will last forever.

I wonder about this - I've got a few 1Zpresso grinders - they're rated for 100-200kg of coffee, and napkin math says my most-used one has probably done about 70kg to date. At grinder prices and my age though, not sure I'd ever come out ahead with BIFL burrs though.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Kirby64 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @06:56PM (#50373106)
No ceramic burr grinders make comparable coffee to steel burrs. They’re all worse. Enjoy your steel burrs and don’t overthink it. Even “worn out” I bet they will taste better than ceramic burrs.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ungreased0675 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:03AM (#50375749)
Can you explain why? I don’t know enough about coffee grinders to work out how there could be any difference in the end product.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by KingMob on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:12AM (#50376961)
I'm guessing because ceramics are hard, but not as hard as steel, so they're less precise as grinders.

Thing is, no grinder can produce perfectly-sized grounds 100% of the time. Due to randomness in how the beans break, there will always be pieces smaller than the desired size. (Probably larger pieces sneak through, too.)

Grinders all produce a distribution, it's just that burr grinders tend to have a tighter distribution than cheap spice grinders. I'd guess that ceramic burr grinders have ever-so-slightly more give than steel, and will let through slightly more undesired grounds as a result.

But it's probably a pretty minor effect.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ungreased0675 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:47AM (#50378464)
Ceramics are generally much harder than steel.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by KingMob on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:36PM (#50420744)
Scratch that theory, then.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Kirby64 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:42PM (#50387497)
Think about it the same way as ceramic vs steel knives.

Although ceramic can technically be sharper, and technically is harder, it’s both very difficult to get a sharp edge and that edge is extremely brittle and chips easily.

Steel can be made much more precisely easily, and the sharpness has toughness that won’t degrade as quickly. This lets you make an edge that cuts much cleaner, which leads to better shaped particles. Once you start “mashing” the particles instead of cutting them, grind size distribution gets a lot worse and you start getting more “fines” which leads to muddy cup profiles.

Also, because ceramic burrs are used on lower end grinders, the tolerance on the burrs and the other stuff around the burrs (alignment, shaft, etc) is much worse overall which impacts repeatability, and because you are continuously grinding, repeatability (play or shimmy) translates to worse grind size distribution.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by zekehernandez on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:59AM (#50367473)
I would enjoy a plastic-free drip machine with a thermal carafe for convenient large batches. For now, been enjoying a stainless steel french press and pour over.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by zodwick on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:04AM (#50367549)
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by cjoelrun on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:04AM (#50367551)
Status: titanium credit card at expensive local coffee shop.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by seemaze on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:14AM (#50367703)
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but even the $10k slayer espresso machine has a plastic water resevoir. Granted the brewing assembly is mostly plastic free.

While I sympathize with the sentiment to eliminate plastic from the transport chain for anything ingestible, it's practically impossible in the modern world.

Simple is usually best; glass or ceramic pour over, stainless press, or even the traditional South American coffee sock[0]

[0]https://perfectdailygrind.com/2016/01/coffee-sock-old-school...

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by saidnooneever on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:20AM (#50367806)
stainless steel might be less bad for environment if u chuck it in the bin but if you look at the entire process from getting ores to having the steel item i dont really think its a very big difference.

used to live nexto a huge steel refinery and many mental diseases and cancers in the area are up more than 50% not to mention lots of birth defects etc.

maybe its effects are more local idk. Not sure how glass and ceramic are made.

ofc not bad to try and eliminate plastics but having 1 plastic free device that is overly expensive is really just a status thing. it contributes nexto nothing to environmental goals which i think eliminating plastics belongs to.

u can just put the grounds in a cup and pour hot water on it afterall. tastes fine.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by coolestguy on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:54PM (#50372084)
It’s not about the environment for a lot of people, it’s about microplastics and their body
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by userbinator on Saturday November 07, 2026 @08:49PM (#50409794)
There is zero credible evidence for the "microplastics" fearmongering.

Decades ago people were scared of radio waves and microwave ovens. Some still claim "electrosensitivity", and it's an entirely psychosomatic (placebo/nocebo) response.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by coolestguy on Sunday November 08, 2026 @08:08PM (#50419685)
ok pal
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Teynah on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:50AM (#50377246)
The irony is that replacing a perfectly functional plastic coffee maker with a brand new $500 stainless steel one might be worse environmentally than just continuing to use what you have
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by rTX5CMRXIfFG on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:50AM (#50381388)
Not really, you'd be better off health-wise with the stainless steel one. And, the plastic coffee maker was already bad for the environment the moment it was manufactured; whether it is actually used or not is irrelevant.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by schiffern on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:10AM (#50379272)
1. Plastic and petrochemical refineries are no picnic either.

2. If each person's individual impact is small, and I agree, then that cuts both ways. Whether I buy stainless steel items contributes next to nothing for/against people living near huge a steel refinery.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by plorg on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:22AM (#50367843)
And unless you're picking it up at your roaster in a container you bring yourself the beans have probably been rattling around in a polyethylene-lined bag.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by lanstin on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:57PM (#50382145)
Which is certainly possible if you have good food coops.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ninininino on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:26AM (#50367920)
> it's practically impossible in the modern world

This sort of defeatism is why people don't try. Consumers can shift products through purchase behaviors. We're already seeing improvements in kitchen appliances and gear, cosmetics, some outdoor gear.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by jrootabega on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @12:10PM (#50368534)
A small subset of coffee drinkers might produce a purchase trend that leads to a brief production of an overpriced coffee machine which still ends up being produced in the cheapest, dirtiest country they can get away with. The rest do not care and never will.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by iamnothere on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:38PM (#50369727)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by zenapollo on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:00PM (#50373644)
Would love to see some research on this. My libertarian friends are a dog with a bone in their belief that our individual dollar-votes are the foremost and correct way we shape the economic landscape. I can’t imagine how anyone arrives there from research or history or experience, but I guess it keeps their Ayn Rand-ian ambition fired up.

That being said i wish they were right. I pay a premium for organic and farmers market. As well as plastic free everything. It feels good to support those businesses, but they are still mostly just getting by.

Beyond lawsuits and regulations - I’ve personally seen what Europe is doing to deploy financial programs for transitions to, for example, regenerative farming. It really works. With the extra funds/financing, farms are able to plan 2-5 year payback instead 10+. The incentive alignment makes a huge difference.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by iamnothere on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:50PM (#50374514)
Asbestos, lead, CFCs, DDT, there’s a ton of examples of where it worked. The question as usual is where regulation is appropriate and how far it should go. Banning lead pipes was obvious, and it worked once people understood the downsides and limited upside, but banning drugs has been a failure.

You have to look at the demand side of the equation, because creating black markets isn’t a good idea, and neither is creating widespread resistance and discontent. Governments aren’t all powerful, so regulation has to focus on the stuff that’s most harmful and has the highest chance of success.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by foxglacier on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:23AM (#50377030)
If they were very profitable instead of just getting by, more of them would appear until they were just getting by again. So that's not a sign of lack of impact of your spending.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by wackget on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:27AM (#50367931)
I was very skeptical but apparently the Caraway machine uses a glass reservoir and stainless steel pipes.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by panos_news on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:29PM (#50370389)
This one has a glass reservoir. Look at the product page images before you decide to bear any news
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by seemaze on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:48PM (#50373562)
Well, it was paywalled, but that's beside the point. The point is that this marketeering contraption solves a problem that the marketeers created.

Coffee was enjoyed for hundreds of years before plastic was invented. The answer is not to get rid of the plastic, but get rid of the machine.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by userbinator on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:11AM (#50375793)
While I sympathize with the sentiment to eliminate plastic from the transport chain for anything ingestible

I don't, and this is just stupid virtue-signaling for the easily gullible hypochondriacs.

Plastics came from hydrocarbons, which make up the bulk of all living matter.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by amanaplanacanal on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:40AM (#50377175)
And all hydrocarbons have the exact same health effects, amirite?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by userbinator on Saturday November 07, 2026 @08:41PM (#50409758)
All long-chain hydrocarbons are functionally inert. Look up what fatty acids are...
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by faidit on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:09AM (#50379259)
Isn't benzene a hydrocarbon?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by userbinator on Saturday November 07, 2026 @08:47PM (#50409787)
...yes, and compounds derived from it are naturally present in a lot of plants.

Short-chain hydrocarbons are quite reactive. But plastics are anything but short-chain, and "sentiment to eliminate plastic" just reads like the astoundingly tiring and misinformed idiotic "chemicals bad!!!1111" insanity of hypochrondriacs.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by benrutter on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:18AM (#50376554)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by 233mhz on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:29AM (#50376644)
If you care enough about the environment to get rid of plastic you should get rid of coffee too, this argument makes no sense
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by AdamN on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:53AM (#50376833)
Yeah this is the real issue. Ironically Nespresso pods are probably more environmentally friendly even if thrown in the trash and not recycled because the real environmental burden comes from the coffee itself and those pods are highly efficient in terms of how little coffee is consumed per shot.

I still drink coffee regularly so am not going to say people should stop doing what I continue to do but it's worth it for coffee drinkers to be thoughtful about the impact of their consumption.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by amanaplanacanal on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:35AM (#50377136)
Environmental burden of coffee: are you taking about transport costs to wherever you are, or something else?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by benrutter on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:39AM (#50377164)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by my-huge-pony on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:14AM (#50377410)
Apparently producing coffee beans for one large coffee uses 140kg of water. Ok, that sounds like a lot.

But also apparently producing one meal worth of chicken takes 700kg of water. Over 3000kg of water for beef. So I think, in comparison, coffee water use if negligible.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by AdamN on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:15AM (#50390486)
The excess coffee used at home vs the precise amount in a Nespresso pod is the driver of that delta that I was referring to.

The overall issue is that coffee pod waste is de minimus compared to the environmental impact of the coffee industry at large.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by benrutter on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:16AM (#50376980)
This is the same kind of insanity in the original post.

"This machine used 99% less plastic over its lifetime, but it still uses some plastic, so why bother?"

"You say reducing plastic is good for the environment, but then you drink coffee which is bad for the environment, so you shouldn't bother even reducing plastic"

"EVs still use energy that's been generated from gas, even if its a lot less, so you might as well just drive a diesel powered pick up truck"

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by 233mhz on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:55PM (#50383640)
Coffee machines are a luxury, plastic or not it doesn't matter, it'll be so small in your overall footprint. The first and second order effects of coffee production will outweigh it by a factor of at least 1000.

It's like stopping using aspirin because "drugs are bad" while doing meth every day

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by benrutter on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:09PM (#50384476)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by citrin_ru on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:13AM (#50377801)
Italian Moka Pot is one more simple and cheap plastic free option.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by matt-attack on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:53AM (#50379823)
Don’t forget you water pipes are likely Pex if your house was made in the last 20 years.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ethbr1 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:26PM (#50382559)
PEX is plasticizer-free. It's cross-linked to provide the necessary properties.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Melatonic on Friday November 06, 2026 @12:54PM (#50395782)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Kirby64 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:03PM (#50381543)
> Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but even the $10k slayer espresso machine has a plastic water resevoir. Granted the brewing assembly is mostly plastic free.

There's some people that care about no plastic at all anywhere (which... is pretty unrealistic considering water pipes are plastic), but usually the primary concern is plastic in the heated water portions. Water tanks on espresso machines are not typically heated.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by herbst on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:15AM (#50390016)
My aroma plus has glass bottle as reservoir. Given it has other limitations. But it's a perfect replacement for any capsule machine
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by dachworker on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:17AM (#50367751)
Hmm, is all the metal food safe? To what extent?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bob1029 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:20AM (#50367805)
When I drank coffee I would use a Hario V60. Avoiding plastic is trivial (and cheap). $40-50 for the entire setup. I preferred to waste my money on expensive beans instead.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by lanfeust6 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:19PM (#50374290)
Hario Switch for me. The cheap manual devices make the best brew. Mind you, I make only one strong cup in the am and it's just for me.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bschwindHN on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:28AM (#50375878)
The V60 and the Switch are so good! I prefer the V60 when I have time to brew, but the Switch also makes a great cup that's a bit smoother tasting (which is good sometimes, not as good other times), and requires less supervision to brew.

V60 is still the undisputed champ for cleanup though. Dump the filter in the trash, rinse the dripper, and you're done.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by silverFork on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:22AM (#50367848)
Typical paper cups that are used to serve coffee produce massively more plastic particles and they are more toxic. One cup per years exceeds what whole year of coffee make plastic releases..

plastic coffee maker: 20 particles paper cup : 25000 particle

https://getplasticproof.com/blog/does-coffee-have-microplast...

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by amelius on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:33AM (#50368022)
Ok, but real coffee drinkers don't use paper cups ...
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by silverFork on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:47AM (#50368243)
They do when they are at work. People don't carry a tumbler when they go to the movies. There are starbuck's what do you call groupies and alike. The pods produce a lot of micro plastic too.

Years ago I looked for all stainless coffee maker and even the most expensive ones had plastic parts. The drip mechanism for all of them had plastic parts. I don't know if they have changed or not.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by polotics on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:36PM (#50371152)
Nope! The number of jokes I get at the office coffee machine (well the nespresso next to it) with my shot glass, you wouldn't believe. btw anyone tried the seaweed sphere capsules? :-)
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by silverFork on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:13PM (#50371612)
Never had heard seaweed capsules.. neat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvktnHozAj4&t=71s

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by KingMob on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:05AM (#50376916)
I'm sure a lot of workplaces have a kitchen with an assortment of random mugs. Maybe this is true at a construction site, but nowhere I've ever worked lacked non-paper cups.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by baud147258 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:06AM (#50376923)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by PowerElectronix on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:29AM (#50367955)
Do people take pods coffee seriously? If you want to signal true status with coffee you pull your roasted coffee beans from a very exotic place, ground them in your very expensive stainless steel manual grinder and make a very strong, very flavorful espresso in your generic chinese espresso machine (that steo is just heat, water and pressure, no need to go overboard there).
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by nstents on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:39AM (#50368121)
In the hinterlands we use a variable speed drill, a Hilti at this level, to power our manual grinder for the roasted exotic beans before using a stainless steel Alessi moka pot for our coffee.

No sense using our hands to belabor the point when grinding.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by amelius on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:31AM (#50368001)
I hate it that Apple products still have so much plastic in them. Makes them look flimsy.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by turtlebro on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:34AM (#50368038)
Join team instant coffee. It's way better then its rep. No microplastics either.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by viciousvoxel on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:38PM (#50373963)
Unfortunately instant coffee still has microplastics from the production process. Probably even more than regular coffee actually.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by bschwindHN on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:31AM (#50375894)
> It's way better then its rep

Sorry but no, it has the reputation it deserves. It's an admirable invention for fast caffeine delivery, but you can get so much better flavor out of coffee that it's not even close.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ndsipa_pomu on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:40AM (#50377975)
Instant coffee is horrible. I choose tea over instant coffee if that's all that is available, but otherwise I drink Aeropress coffee.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by zombot on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:09PM (#50369333)
I must be hot shit then, my portafilter has no plasic and neither does my grinder.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by devindotcom on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:11PM (#50373742)
I have a Technivorm Moccamaster KBG-V and they use good plastic for their parts but it's still plastic (except the thermal carafe etc). There's a new copycat version that's all glass and plastic (Simply Good I think?) but not sure how it actually performs.

What I'm surprised at is that no one has made non-plastic drop-in replacement parts for the reservoir, basket, and funnel. The KBG-V is highly modular so it's strange to me that no one has gone this route. It shouldn't change anything significant in the brewing process or quality of the coffee.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by skew-aberration on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:34PM (#50373931)
Does it even make a difference for non-heated parts? Potable water is delivered in PVC pipes and HDPE hoses these days.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by tedd4u on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:09PM (#50374661)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by onion2k on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:13AM (#50377800)
Technivorm Moccamaster KBG-V

That sounds more like a gun in Cyberpunk 2077 than a coffee machine.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by sfpotter on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:15PM (#50373777)
Love my La Pavoni.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by boplicity on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:40PM (#50373982)
Check out Coffee Sensor -- they make non-plastic replacement parts, so you can get fully plastic free.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Atiscant on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:56PM (#50383655)
I can second the recommendation. It was a bit of a hassel replacing everything but it also runs better now
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by regus on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:17PM (#50374279)
I make coffee in an electric percolator. It’s stainless steel, the coffee never touches any plastic. People online say this is the worst way to make coffee, but it tastes fine to me.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by jmugan on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:43PM (#50374876)
We recently switched to that. I don't like the taste as much but not sure what else to do. This coffee thing is getting complicated.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by mikeweiss on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:18PM (#50374284)
I like Moka pots. Zero plastic

But seriously it's a shame how hard it is to find products like coffee makers and electric kettles with no plastic. Heat and plastic don't mix

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by asdff on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:25PM (#50374330)
Took me forever to find a french press that was all glass and stainless steel. Most of them the little filter at the cap (which vintage ones lack entirely fwiw) is some black plastic, but I found a bodum off crate and barrel a couple years ago that was stainless for that part too.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by pengaru on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:19PM (#50374734)
> Heat and plastic don't mix

actually they do, and that's the problem

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by 0_____0 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:15PM (#50375102)
Still has a polymer gasket :)
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by jlarocco on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:05AM (#50375429)
Does it fix the weird chemical taste of pod coffee?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ungreased0675 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:06AM (#50375770)
A Chemex with properly weighed and proportioned beans makes excellent coffee. It’s also plastic free and there isn’t a wait list.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by kleiba2 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:08AM (#50376943)
Only in America is a coffee machine without plastic something special.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by miaomiaomiao on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:34AM (#50377532)
A pair of weeks ago I've had the opportunity of trying a Lavazza Tabli' in one of those event they do at malls were you can try new coffe machines for free.

I was attracted by the removal of the plastic waste, but the coffe has been very underwhelming. Not in the sense that it was not to my taste but that was plainly bad. I know that it might have been a single fluke, the machine or whatever, still tho, did not like the coffee.

My wife and her friends tried it as well some hours later and told me the same thing without me influencing their opinion with mine.

I am happy to see a change in that way but I don't feel it's a viable alternative to traditional capsule machines, meanwhile I'll stick to my dear Moka.

(context: I'm italian)

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by esFran on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:11AM (#50377789)
I use a stainless steel moka pot, which I find very efficient (a minute or less to get coffee ready), healthy and eco-friendly. I hate capsules because of the waste they create once used and the energy that goes into making them.

From what I've read, it's true that the oils aren't filtered out as well as with paper filters, but their contribution is minimal.

By the way, always coffee with milk.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by stevage on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:25AM (#50377873)
Yeah me too. Stovetop pot on induction stove. Takes less space than a coffee machine, less waste, and the coffee comes out hotter. Oh, and I can make two cups at once.

Those pod machines are just all around crap. Kind of acceptable in an office kitchen, but really surprised anyone wants one at home.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ricardobayes on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:31AM (#50377912)
These are pretty good but honestly, missing the mark? There is a big, plastic water tank and I assume the hot water is hitting some plastic parts here and there. It's not really plastic-free even though the "pod" consisting of coffee only is a good start.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by stuaxo on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:43AM (#50377994)
Aeropress is a similar amount of effort and just as quick.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by cillian64 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:43AM (#50378002)
I like aeropress coffee but it's not the same as you get from nespresso-style pod machines.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by rob74 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:25AM (#50378282)
So, what's new about that? Philips's Senseo machines have been available now for 20+ years and they use pads without plastic? Ok, they probably don't count as a "status symbol" and some might turn their nose up at them, but still...
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by gizajob on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:17AM (#50378726)
These already seem pretty common in Italy, with the biodegradable plastic-free pods
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by prima-facie on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:13PM (#50386451)
We already have the ESE coffee pods (e.g. from illy coffee) which work with your regular DeLonghi coffee machine, or even the pour over with a paper filter.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by snapplebobapple on Sunday November 08, 2026 @02:40PM (#50416392)
Its as if nobody knows about the hario switch and everyone loves wating money....
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by eproxus on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @06:09AM (#50452026)
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