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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by 233mhz on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:29AM (#50376644)
If you care enough about the environment to get rid of plastic you should get rid of coffee too, this argument makes no sense
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by AdamN on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:53AM (#50376833)
Yeah this is the real issue. Ironically Nespresso pods are probably more environmentally friendly even if thrown in the trash and not recycled because the real environmental burden comes from the coffee itself and those pods are highly efficient in terms of how little coffee is consumed per shot.

I still drink coffee regularly so am not going to say people should stop doing what I continue to do but it's worth it for coffee drinkers to be thoughtful about the impact of their consumption.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by amanaplanacanal on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:35AM (#50377136)
Environmental burden of coffee: are you taking about transport costs to wherever you are, or something else?
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by benrutter on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:39AM (#50377164)
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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by my-huge-pony on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:14AM (#50377410)
Apparently producing coffee beans for one large coffee uses 140kg of water. Ok, that sounds like a lot.

But also apparently producing one meal worth of chicken takes 700kg of water. Over 3000kg of water for beef. So I think, in comparison, coffee water use if negligible.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by AdamN on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:15AM (#50390486)
The excess coffee used at home vs the precise amount in a Nespresso pod is the driver of that delta that I was referring to.

The overall issue is that coffee pod waste is de minimus compared to the environmental impact of the coffee industry at large.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by benrutter on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:16AM (#50376980)
This is the same kind of insanity in the original post.

"This machine used 99% less plastic over its lifetime, but it still uses some plastic, so why bother?"

"You say reducing plastic is good for the environment, but then you drink coffee which is bad for the environment, so you shouldn't bother even reducing plastic"

"EVs still use energy that's been generated from gas, even if its a lot less, so you might as well just drive a diesel powered pick up truck"

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by 233mhz on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:55PM (#50383640)
Coffee machines are a luxury, plastic or not it doesn't matter, it'll be so small in your overall footprint. The first and second order effects of coffee production will outweigh it by a factor of at least 1000.

It's like stopping using aspirin because "drugs are bad" while doing meth every day

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by benrutter on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:09PM (#50384476)
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