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Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Marsymars on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:57AM (#50367429)
> I was very adamant that it had to have ceramic grinders so that it will last forever.

I wonder about this - I've got a few 1Zpresso grinders - they're rated for 100-200kg of coffee, and napkin math says my most-used one has probably done about 70kg to date. At grinder prices and my age though, not sure I'd ever come out ahead with BIFL burrs though.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Kirby64 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @06:56PM (#50373106)
No ceramic burr grinders make comparable coffee to steel burrs. They’re all worse. Enjoy your steel burrs and don’t overthink it. Even “worn out” I bet they will taste better than ceramic burrs.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ungreased0675 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:03AM (#50375749)
Can you explain why? I don’t know enough about coffee grinders to work out how there could be any difference in the end product.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by KingMob on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:12AM (#50376961)
I'm guessing because ceramics are hard, but not as hard as steel, so they're less precise as grinders.

Thing is, no grinder can produce perfectly-sized grounds 100% of the time. Due to randomness in how the beans break, there will always be pieces smaller than the desired size. (Probably larger pieces sneak through, too.)

Grinders all produce a distribution, it's just that burr grinders tend to have a tighter distribution than cheap spice grinders. I'd guess that ceramic burr grinders have ever-so-slightly more give than steel, and will let through slightly more undesired grounds as a result.

But it's probably a pretty minor effect.

Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by ungreased0675 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:47AM (#50378464)
Ceramics are generally much harder than steel.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by KingMob on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:36PM (#50420744)
Scratch that theory, then.
Re:Coffee's new status symbol is a machine without plastic by Kirby64 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:42PM (#50387497)
Think about it the same way as ceramic vs steel knives.

Although ceramic can technically be sharper, and technically is harder, it’s both very difficult to get a sharp edge and that edge is extremely brittle and chips easily.

Steel can be made much more precisely easily, and the sharpness has toughness that won’t degrade as quickly. This lets you make an edge that cuts much cleaner, which leads to better shaped particles. Once you start “mashing” the particles instead of cutting them, grind size distribution gets a lot worse and you start getting more “fines” which leads to muddy cup profiles.

Also, because ceramic burrs are used on lower end grinders, the tolerance on the burrs and the other stuff around the burrs (alignment, shaft, etc) is much worse overall which impacts repeatability, and because you are continuously grinding, repeatability (play or shimmy) translates to worse grind size distribution.