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Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by tristanj on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:30AM (#49332666)
Github is struggling because AI-boosted coding increased the number of commits 14x in the past year, and the pace is still accelerating. The site is struggling to keep up. Github's COO confirms it here: https://x.com/kdaigle/status/2040164759836778878

Platform activity is surging. There were 1 billion commits in 2025. As of three months ago, it was 275 million per week, on pace for 14 billion this year if growth remains linear (spoiler: it won't.)

20% of all GitHub accounts were created in the past 6 months https://x.com/kdaigle/status/2082604368399159542

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by evanelias on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:12PM (#49333350)
My sense is that a lot of this activity isn't even legitimate use. As one example: my company has a GitHub app, and last night some bot added my app to 1700 repos. Then the bot immediately started rapid-firing commits which each affected hundreds of files, triggering a deluge of GitHub webhooks to my servers.

The repo names all matched other GitHub apps, so my sense is this bot had added 1700 GitHub apps to 1700 repos, with that number rapidly increasing at the upper bound of whatever GitHub's rate limit is.

My systems caught it quickly and auto-booted the bot, but the whole situation is ridiculous.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by digitalsushi on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:20PM (#49333507)
there's this attack on youtube where people who dont want their real names known will autoblock comments with their real names; bots will spam comments with every word and note the ones that were not visible.

kinda reminds me of it. not my most valuable contribution to forensics, admittedly.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by chrisjj on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @05:58PM (#49353308)
This works on only people dumb enough to block only their own name, right?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by phoenixy1 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:44PM (#49352439)
The GitHub bot situation is so frustrating! A good ~50% of community traffic on our repos is spam and bots and to report them I have to fill out a lengthy form and MAYBE GitHub will ban them six weeks later. And I also can't tell whether our repos are being used (and thus worth investing in): GitHib only shows two weeks of traffic data and what they do have is completely useless because they can't filter out bot traffic.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by conartist6 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:58PM (#49352611)
Yeah I think that's really important. The average value of each commit, action, or hook has become significantly lower, and that necessarily means that they can't spend on quality. If you set the quality bar to cater to the top 10% of value-creating users (us) the amount you'd pay for quality at times when quality matters none would truly and completely sink you
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by arjie on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:43AM (#49332865)
The obvious answer is to end free unlimited private repos. Source is no longer a specific thing. GitHub is just a free S3 or Azure provider.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by SoftTalker on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:50AM (#49332990)
I think this would cut out a lot of the mindless commit activity.

Charge $1/month per repo. If your project isn't worth that, run your own git or use another free forge.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by hei-lima on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:07PM (#49333268)
GH isn't good enough to charge that much for its core services. 90% of its user base would just find better or cheaper alternatives, and the only ones remaining would be legacy enterprise codebases that are just impossible or too expensive to migrate.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by odo1242 on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:57AM (#49333097)
I think GitHub leans on this free repos thing a lot for getting new users though. Like I could see people just moving to GitLab
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by hakunin on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:59AM (#49333133)
…and encountering the same issues most likely.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by odo1242 on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:02PM (#49333169)
Fair, but the point is GitHub’s model is:

Free Users use GitHub => when a company needs source control => all their coders use GitHub => company buys expensive enterprise contract.

If there’s less of an advantage to using free GitHub then that funnel works less effectively.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by neko_ranger on Monday August 17, 2026 @02:33PM (#49335594)
Free private repos on github is relatively new, only introduced after a rise in popularity of gitlab (which has free private repos).

Seems like github is too popular for itself.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by klausa on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:40PM (#49349419)
I know you said "relatively", but it's been seven and a half years: https://github.blog/changelog/2019-01-08-pricing-changes/
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by kypro on Monday August 17, 2026 @05:42PM (#49338075)
80/20 rule would suggest that you don't need to apply $1 to all users, just those who create an excessive number of AI slop repos or make an excessive number of commits.

Could do similar for GH actions usage.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by joshspankit on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @12:40PM (#49348369)
What about $1/year per private repo?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by zmj on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @05:19PM (#49352880)
The incentives that creates are really bad: it encourages users to organize their code across the smallest number of repos, and I'd bet anything that larger repos are disproportionately more expensive for GitHub than smaller ones. It's very possible that a per-repo charge would make things worse.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by CrimsonCape on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @07:13PM (#49354189)
You are way too optimistic. What will realistically happen is they charge $2 per month and the quality doesn't change. The $2 per month gross will go where it always goes: launches, exec salaries, shareholders.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by imjonse on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:23PM (#49349129)
I would have thought it's public repos that got the most AI slop recently as a form of gathering karma and boost CVs. It would be nice to know if private repo commits increased instead.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by swingboy on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:39PM (#49352367)
A lot of private repos are probably just taking up cheap storage space, not seeing activity that would cause additional load.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by never_inline on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @02:27AM (#49357649)
You can also limit number of free commits to, say 100 per month.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by gspr on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @08:15AM (#49360491)
So if I want to push an existing project with 1000 commits to GitHub for the first time, I gotta do it over the course of 10 months?

Encouraging big commits seems antithetical to the idea of git in general.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by fg137 on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @06:31AM (#49359578)
Public or private doesn't matter. Vibe coders aren't worried about others using their AI slop
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bhouston on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:39AM (#49332793)
> Github is struggling because AI-boosted coding increased the number of commits 14x in the past year, and the pace is still accelerating.

Sure, but how is OpenAI, and Claude handling the increased usage? They are handling it a lot better than Github. Just because you have fast growth does not mean you can not handle it.

Instead you have to realize that you are entering into a high growth phase and design around that.

It has been clear that we are in a high growth phase for around a year now and Github still hasn't adapted to that properly.

At some point you have to admit that Github ready for the moment.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by traviswingo on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:42AM (#49332851)
GitHub is on Azure. Azure is notorious for being terrible. There was a post here recently from an ex-Azure engineer explaining all of this in a multi-part series.

Edit: Found the thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47616242

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by Tiberium on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:47AM (#49332924)
Isn't a lot of OpenAI infra also on Azure? They seem to be faring better than GitHub.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bhouston on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:04PM (#49333217)
I bet OpenAI has failovers to other data centers. I think they have a variety of data center provides all over the place.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by prewett on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:29PM (#49333705)
There's already a noun for this: "resources"
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by moralestapia on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:56PM (#49349712)
Q. how can someone publish an article like that, with their name, etc...

Don't they sign NDAs? Do they not care? Are they not enforceable?

Very curious to know.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by ornornor on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:09PM (#49349948)
Maybe they didn’t take the severance part that makes the NDA valid? IIRC for an NDA to be enforceable there has to be a monetary consideration to it. Or maybe it’s for no competes?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by jaredsohn on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @05:23PM (#49367389)
NDAs often get signed when you join a company.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by dmitrygr on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @05:59PM (#49353324)
Some people reach a level of DGAF where it will not matter

Some fuck-ups have such long-lasting effects that they outlast the NDAs that would cover them

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by Peanuts99 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:46PM (#49352452)
I didn't think they'd completed the move yet, it's only partially on Azure - which to be fair could be another problem in itself.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by SamBam on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:49AM (#49332972)
OpenAI and Anthropic are spending hundreds of billions of dollars that they may never recoup forcing the building massive new data centers in the face of widespread protest.

You think GitHub ought to match that?

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bhouston on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:58AM (#49333116)
> OpenAI and Anthropic are spending hundreds of billions of dollars that they may never recoup forcing the building massive new data centers in the face of widespread protest.

So has Github's owner Microsoft. It's build out is on par with OpenAI and Anthropic.

> You think GitHub ought to match that?

Microsoft is.

The issue is that the software stack is not stable. That is clearly the issue here.

It isn't a hardware build out issue. It is related to the architecture of Github.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by remus on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:02PM (#49333175)
> Sure, but how is OpenAI, and Claude handling the increased usage?

By spending tens of billions in investor cash. It is not clear what a sustainable business model looks like for these companies at the moment.

> They are handling it a lot better than Github.

Are they? Anthropic has fairly frequent issues.

There's high growth and then there's demand increasing 10x in a year. For a mature business like github that's a massive, and I can't think of many big businesses who would be able to scale smoothly to accommodate that kind of demand.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by mixmastamyk on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @08:12PM (#49354801)
Yes, OAI is losing tens of billions, Anthro is losing billions, and MS is cashflow positive and rewarded for that by Wall St, according to recent earnings reports.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by theappsecguy on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:54AM (#49333054)
Well they heavily limit free tier usage and for paid users they are charging a tiered pricing model that ramps up very aggressively. Github is a lot more generous in this sense and it has a lot more surface area in terms of the functionality it serves
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by tekno45 on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:45AM (#49332896)
OpenAI and Claude don't accept commits and host PRs? How are they the same?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bhouston on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:59AM (#49333140)
I am pretty sure OpenAI and Claude actually have a higher hardware cost per request that Microsoft. Github is actually most just a standard REST API app, although with some caching and git specific operations in the background. It is not as hardware intensive as GPU-based inference per quest with huge contexts and low latency.

Also Github's feature offering has been incredibly stable for the last 6 years. There isn't an excuse for it to be unstable like this.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by pixelesque on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:06PM (#49333247)
Yes, but come on...

That's due to the need for ultra-fast memory and inference compute, it's not the same thing.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by dumberquestions on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:49AM (#49332962)
They're getting increasing demand for tokens at an accelerating pace.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by pixelesque on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:00PM (#49333146)
Is that the same as storing state in a DB and on a filesystem though?

Like, I get there are other features they have, and things like history, but I don't think it's quite the same.

Isn't most (not all) of the LLM's resources stateless compute to a large degree?

(Not defending MS at all though, I currently can't create a PR on the required branch for my work (won't load the branch list) and their availability is really bad recently).

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by DANmode on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @10:29PM (#49355855)
> Is that the same as storing state in a DB and on a filesystem though?

Google “RLHF”.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by adithyassekhar on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @06:20AM (#49359478)
Didn’t knew they did that.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by DANmode on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @03:24PM (#49366046)
How else?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by fragmede on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:59AM (#49333138)
Fundamentally, there's incoming requests, an application server, and a database. The devil is in the nature of those requests, and how do you process those requests and stick them in the database. And then serve them back out again. Different application, different database, but fundamentally, it's the same problem. Google managed to do this very well. Microsoft has not.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by logicchains on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:48AM (#49332948)
They're undergoing the same kind of load. Almost every AI commit that's putting pressure on GitHub's servers was written on OpenAI and Anthropic's servers.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by simonw on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:58AM (#49333127)
Scaling ChatGPT and scaling GitHub are very different problems.

For LLMs, prompt handling is effectively stateless. They do try to route follow-up prompts to the same cluster to benefit from prompt caching, but those can be effectively sharded. They also need to write results to storage but that's on a per-customer basis, so also easy to shard.

GitHub is a shared space, where commits and issues and PRs need to become instantly available to all readers across all geographies. They have a very different shape of scaling challenge to the LLM vendors.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bhouston on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:01PM (#49333157)
> GitHub is a shared space, where commits and issues and PRs need to become instantly available to all readers across all geographies. They have a very different shape of scaling challenge to the LLM vendors.

Github data is accessible by all (if open source), but they should be partition-able by individual repository (and their related forks.). Thus while there is more shared state across users, it isn't fully shared state.

And they have been working on this semi-shared state design for over 10 years now.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by etc-hosts on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:14PM (#49351994)
Every response from GitHub must be deterministic. OpenAI and Anthropic do not have this problem.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by 27183 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @05:02PM (#49352661)
OpenAI, Anthropic, OpenRouter, Gemeni, etc also have another escape hatch: they can arbitrarily and potentially invisibly reduce your quality of service at their discretion. They can choose to route your request to an expensive model or a cheap one. By contrast, the best Github can do is slow your request down.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by chermi on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @12:08PM (#49363453)
And they never even have to admit they do it.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by baal80spam on Monday August 17, 2026 @04:09PM (#49336865)
> They are handling it a lot better than Github.

No, they are not.

https://status.claude.com/

https://www.githubstatus.com/

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by 1attice on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @12:00PM (#49347733)
This would require foresight, budget, and attention. MS currently has none of these.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by maccard on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:36PM (#49350422)
For a very long time this year Claude was down multiple times a week. Can’t speak for OpenAI
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by stronglikedan on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:41PM (#49350523)
Open AI and Claude were not nearly as mature as Github when the boom started. That's a lot of legacy infra to scale up.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by fl0id on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @05:12PM (#49352784)
anthropic frequently rate limits or is just unavailable... so I wouldn't exactly say they are handling it better.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by never_inline on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @02:25AM (#49357634)
GitHub is not able to charge in proportion to commits pushed, and can't scale in proportion either without it being too expensive.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by sigseg1v on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @03:32AM (#49358184)
Claude has 1 to 2 nines of uptime if you check their uptime history on their site. And I'll note that their definition of up is... generous. Plenty of times I encounter it saying no issues when there are abundant service issues.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by pluc on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:34AM (#49332729)
Nobody at Microsoft could've predicted AI was going to be so popular!
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by blipvert on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:15PM (#49350037)
Like the way that they shipped ‘95 without a browser?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by aleph_minus_one on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @06:00PM (#49353338)
> Like the way that they shipped ‘95 without a browser?

Around the time when Windows 95 was released, Microsoft did predict that the internet will become popular also among private users. That is why

- they included Winsock (Windows' TCP/UDP/IP stack) as native part of Windows 95 (in opposite to Windows 3.x where you had to install a third-party implementation of the Winsock API such as Trumpet Winsock), though it was typically not installed by default,

- support to use MSN (the dial-up online service and internet servicen provider [1]) was pre-installed with Windows 95.

What was not clear at that time was that the world wide web would become the killer application for the internet for consumer users (at that time, the more likely killer application of the internet for consumers was seen in proprietary content providers such as AOL, Compuserve or MSN), so Microsoft provided no web browser with the original version of Windows 95.

But even at that time, it was conceivable, though not clear that the world wide web could become important. So, already at the release time of Windows 95, Microsoft provided Internet Explorer 1.0 as part of the Plus! add-on pack for Windows 95. With Windows 95 OEM Service Release 1, the Internet Explorer 2.0 got part of Windows 95, and Windows 98 introduced the (optional) Active Desktop [2], in was centered around the Internet Explorer.

So, in my opinion Microsoft did everything "correct" here: they provided Internet Explorer from beginning on as an optional separate component (Plus! add-on pack), and once it was obvious that the world wide web would become very important, they reacted fast and included the Internet Explorer in the next service release of Windows 95 (Windows 95 OEM Service Release 1).

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSN_Dial-Up_Internet_Access

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Desktop

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by fourseventy on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:45AM (#49332899)
Github is owned by Microsoft, its not like its some boostrapped startup who has a closet of servers that are melting.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by platevoltage on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @03:07PM (#49350976)
And on top of that, Microsoft is one of the companies that created this problem in the first place.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by adzuci on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:01PM (#49333153)
I think that data is a bit dated and misleading, but I would love to see if AI slop is a contributing factor here once the dust settles and how Github will address it. Looking at the return to mean in https://areyougoingexponential.rhys.dev/kdaigle makes me think the COO spike could be a Karpathy wiki or an agent too.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bluerooibos on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:45AM (#49332900)
> Github is struggling because AI-boosted coding increased the number of commits 14x in the past year,

OK so then use the additional revenue to add more resources and employees? What the f*k are they doing over there?

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by flexagoon on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:47AM (#49332926)
> OK so then use the additional revenue to add more resources and employees?

What revenue? I'd assume the people pushing thousands of AI-generated commits are not the people paying for GitHub Enterprise.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bluerooibos on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:34PM (#49333771)
> What revenue

I'd assume at least a portion of them are paying for GitHub Pro, and by now at least a small % would have converted to Enterprise.

If not, then they need to fix their operational model - I don't understand people acting like this is some insurmountable challenge given Microsoft reported over $331 billion in total revenue and an operating income exceeding $155 billion in 2026.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by roryirvine on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:47PM (#49333981)
Changing the operating model can be surprisingly tough for an established business. Imagine the outcry if they started charging per git push, for example.

Clearly, something needs to change. But if they're not careful they might provoke a reaction from their existing userbase that's even more negative that the response to these outages.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bluerooibos on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:17PM (#49336187)
> can be tough

Of course it can - everything is tough at that scale, but their parent company has billions in profit. They've had a year to come up with a plan/fix and have failed miserably.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by oceanician on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:27PM (#49349192)
Sure, but max 100 pushes per day per account? Or should it be higher?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by thevinter on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:46AM (#49332922)
What revenue do AI-boosted commits provide? Am I missing something?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bluerooibos on Monday August 17, 2026 @12:36PM (#49333805)
You're missing the fact that Microsoft reported over $331 billion in total revenue and an operating income exceeding $155 billion - this is a fixable problem.

If they're really that cash-strapped at GitHub, then are they planning to just continue allowing this to happen and drown, or fix the issues? This has been ongoing for over a year.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by rurban on Monday August 17, 2026 @01:27PM (#49334581)
So why did all the Azure and Github engineers leave then? There's only management and outsourced cheap labor there, and management has no idea. Cheap labor even less
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by pavel_lishin on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:47AM (#49332925)
Is there additional revenue from a bunch of people pushing their vibe-coded stuff up to Github?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by 0xbadcafebee on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:57AM (#49333107)
If that's the superficial cause, then the root cause is a lack of limits. Any production system in the world will go down from too much load if you don't limit the load. You have to do performance testing to determine what the system's peak utilization is, and put limits in place to prevent exceeding that limit.

There are multiple kinds of limits you need. First you need the raw i/o limits on things like networking, load balancer requests per second, etc so you don't slow to a crawl on high load; you can throttle max i/o so demanding users don't steal performance for others, or even throttle network traffic to the client IP and internal services. Then you need additional limits at app layer, like number of requests you can process that make DB calls (as most DBs have a connection and request limit), or limit API requests to X/minute. Then you need more business logic limits, like max number of concurrent logged-in users, max number of repos a user can have, max number of requests for free users, priority for paid requests, etc.

When you hit a limit, you have a couple choices. You can shed load (dropping calls immediately, which results in 503 errors for users, or even network disconnects), but it makes a very poor user experience, and can cause larger issues/conflicts in a distributed system. You can instead keep a max number of active sessions, and adjust that number over time, to ensure that (on average) your users have a stable experience; this requires implementing a "waiting room" for new sessions when old ones expire or log out; still not great for users, but it prevents everyone from getting random errors, which means the majority of users have a good experience.

There are way more kinds of limits to implement. Each business has to analyze its entire system to identify performance bottlenecks and implement limits to ensure the majority of users continue to have good service. Without those limits, you get a shit experience for everyone, your brand is tarnished, and customers run for the hills.

Finally, the performance testing helps you plan how much infrastructure you need to serve a given number of users. If you plan properly, you know X infra allows for Y number of users. Once you exceed Y users, you need to start throttling or stopping new user signup (and requests per minute) until you can increase capacity. Continuing to allow signups and additional usage, without the capacity to support it, results in what we see today.

But competent engineers know all this. If they had competent engineers, and it gets this bad anyway, the problem is management. Microsoft likely already made back what they acquired GitHub for. They probably figured they could keep riding the gravy train until the train went off the rails, and either eventually sell GitHub or write it off. Such is business.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by darkr on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:24PM (#49350211)
> until the train went off the rails

Ironically the core application is written in rails, which may be part of the issue

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by thex10 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @03:10PM (#49351025)
I really enjoyed this read, as I am starting to grapple with some of this now. Do you have any resources for learning more about this stuff and these tradeoffs?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by lilerjee on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @12:11PM (#49363486)
Too complicated and the price is very huge.

Fixing small errors and keeping going on maybe is a good business strategy.

The last result is probably what you said.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by TZubiri on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:33AM (#49332709)
Are these disproportionately in the free tier? Or is the increased storage load similar across the paid tiers?

Might be worth considering a /GB/MO fee. Let's face it, VCS is a (glorified) storage service.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by cute_boi on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:43AM (#49332862)
I think Github should start charging who goes beyond fair usages.

I just checked no 1 vibe coder https://github.com/steipete and he has like 279,440. Compared this to Taylor who works on huge project like Laravel and is only around 8k commits.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by ProofHouse on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:46AM (#49332920)
The scam that anthropic pulled, is they remove free tier (bad idea for Github honestly), but blame it on AI vibe code abusers. Instead of for example finding the 1-5% of absolutely aggregous users like Steipete and restricting them.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by logicallee on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:54AM (#49333055)
it's a bit of a stretch to call removing a free tier a scam. as you can see a lot of people in this thread are saying Github should start charging.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by cute_boi on Monday August 17, 2026 @11:39AM (#49332791)
It is just an excuse. If they can't support paid member or don't have infra they should start charging these slop projects who are committing relentlessly.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by sharts on Monday August 17, 2026 @02:26PM (#49335473)
I would take what C-level execs say with a grain of salt. Remember these folks hire people with plenty of system design experience. They likely also have the money for hardware resources.

If load was an issue these things would have been solved already. Or they are purposely causing millions of dollars of productivity loss daily by not solving this.

Something more serious is at play. And I want to hear from the actual underlings.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by pan69 on Monday August 17, 2026 @03:32PM (#49336408)
> I would take what C-level execs say with a grain of salt.

100% agree.

> Remember these folks hire people with plenty of system design experience.

Not my overall experience 30 years in the industry.

> They likely also have the money for hardware resources.

You'll always be asked to do more with less, at least, that's my own experience.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by joshspankit on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @12:39PM (#49348347)
Also my experience
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by jasper1111 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:40PM (#49352379)
Also my experience
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by rawland on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @06:04PM (#49353386)
+1
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by haddr on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @06:56PM (#49353991)
Also my experience
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by srmatto on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:22PM (#49349094)
Infra is a cost center for a business unless your a PaaS and even then maybe still. Cost centers are usually ferreted out for savings, not investment.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by roughly on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:31PM (#49350331)
Infra is a cost center right up until its absence begins to undercut your value proposition to customers, and then it becomes an investment. GitHub seems well on the wrong side of that equation right now.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by geodel on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @03:29PM (#49351316)
In general true. But most of paying customers, including enterprise have made a bet that they cut down expense and resources on operational experience, system management knowledge to minimum because cloud .

So even if these cloud/SAAS solutions perform poorly it is not like customers have wherewithal to create alternate solutions.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by conartist6 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:54PM (#49352556)
> it is not like customers have wherewithal to create alternate solutions.

it's not impossible. they don't, right up until they do

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by browningstreet on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:36PM (#49349351)
> They likely also have the money for hardware resources.

Amazing you can say this with a straight face in these DC building times.

Have you tried getting Azure east instances anytime lately?

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by mckee_plus_plus on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @06:39PM (#49353802)
I've actually never tried to get an Azure instance. Azure can't earn my trust with SSO, let alone hosting my compute.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by nobodysaidso on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:36PM (#49349353)
>They likely also have the money for hardware resources.

Hey man, in case you hadn't heard, the hardware industry is having a lot of trouble keeping up. "Expand our capacity" isn't as easy as it was 2 years ago.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by Illniyar on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:31PM (#49350339)
More load does not just mean needing to increase capacity, which would be simple for Microsoft to do.

Additional load reveals limits and breaklines that were never known before - your temporary integer IDs are suddenly too small, you reach the maximum file descriptors in a Linux distro, your hash function suddenly has repeating conflicts, your DB index is suddenly oversaturated.

Having massive exponential growth of your traffic would probably require constant refactoring to meet the ever changing system limits.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by lokar on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @05:18PM (#49352871)
A good rule of thumb I once heard (from Jeff Dean, I think) was that (in a complex system) every 10X you go up in scale you need to re-consider basic design elements, trade-offs, etc, and probably change some of them.

It's hard to design something (large and complex) for much more than 10X scale with only HW capacity increases.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by transcriptase on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @01:58PM (#49364901)
There are iirc some good write ups from years ago by employees at Blizzard about these things and why “spinning up more servers” wouldn’t suddenly let millions of people login to games simultaneously on launch days.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by fooey on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:55PM (#49350792)
I think owning GitHub is a prestige play, not necessarily thought of as a profit center.

Now however, it's competing for resources directly with the corporations core strategic plans.

GitHub having issues is embarrassing, but the shareholders don't really care.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by lokar on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @05:20PM (#49352889)
I've always wondered about that. I've suspected the same as you, it's mostly a brand / "ecosystem" thing.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by 27183 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:50PM (#49352517)
My pet theory is they backed themselves into a corner with Actions. That was a step change in computational scaling effort. It also fell immediately on the heels of the Microsoft acquisition.

Something about these two factors seems to have conspired to wreak absolute havoc on their uptime in the ~7yr hence. The AI slopocalypse hasn't helped matters, but the foundations were laid far earlier.

Would love to hear from an insider, either for or against this conspiracy theory.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by vb-8448 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:50PM (#49349598)
I'm curios what is the bottleneck then? Because github(ms) has enough resources to hire competent people and provision needed hw to solve scaling the issues.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by c0rruptbytes on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:53PM (#49349647)
need competent people to hire competent people first - it seems like their only directive is to raise $MSFT not make good tech

(talking about leadership, not my lovely msft engineers reading this)

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by lallysingh on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:31PM (#49350328)
Probably contention on databases.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by moralestapia on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @01:53PM (#49349667)
Yeah, aren't they super geniuses with infra that scales with a button, etc.?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by aleph_minus_one on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:03PM (#49349845)
> infra that scales with a button

That is how Microsoft markets Azure. :-)

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by tsss on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:39PM (#49352368)
Looking at the design of Github Actions, I don't see any competency.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by dspillett on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @06:03AM (#49359333)
Ignoring the possibility of plain ol' management incompetence, when things are changing as fast as they are the problem becomes one of lead time. Hiring competent people does not happen at the click of a finger, nor in the current climate does getting new hardware resources.

Hardware probably isn't going to do a lot with demand rising 10x or more at peak times, if they had scaled and tested systems with a view to supporting an order of magnitude more requests than expected then all that contingency resource is already gone. Adding 10% more hardware is going to be very expensive and will likely not have that much effect anyway without design changes to make better use of that hardware, scaling by orders of magnitude often reveals bottlenecks that were not apparent at the previous scales, or were apparent but dismissed (I imagine somewhere in a comment or design doc someone having written “we will need to rethink this if the system is to be asked to process 10ˣ⁺¹ things/period rather than 10ˣ”).

And once you've hired those people, even if they get up to speed pretty much instantly, a system change isn't going to be designed/made/rolled-out in short order so patchwork fixes are still needed in the meantime, and any roll-out probably needs to be gradual which adds further complication.

Scaling isn't easy. Scaling fast is a royal PITA.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by maccard on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:34PM (#49350393)
GitHub’s reliability issues started earlier than the boom in agentic coding they talk about. I have comments on here from 2025 talking about massive outages with actions and issues.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by fooey on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:51PM (#49350712)
When you're the uncontested market leader, you don't budget operations to be perfectly reliable, you budget to not be too unreliable. All those 9's are expensive after all.

The AI boom caught them napping though, and they're slipping well into the too unreliable category

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by aleph_minus_one on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:20PM (#49352097)
> The AI boom caught them napping though

Microsoft, who invested eyewatering sums into AI, even near to betting the whole company on an AI boom, is surprised about the AI boom?

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by minraws on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:59PM (#49352627)
Microsoft bet everything on possible AGI, no one thought the result would be a bonafide commit printing machine.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by jasonvorhe on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @07:22PM (#49354298)
That's not what Nadella said 1-2 years ago. Everyone seemed pretty aware of LLMs soon being able to handle a lot of steps of software development.

I bet it's mostly due to Azure being brittle and the AI boom is just a nice cover story (not saying it's not challenging to handle all that new load) to save face and sell more Azure services.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by redshiftza on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @08:55AM (#49360972)
100% if this post (https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporize...) is anything to go by, it could explain much of the scaling & reliability issues.Perhaps github not being built to scale this fast + being hosted on azure is closer to the truth.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by samudrijan on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @05:57PM (#49353303)
PRRRR
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by creshal on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @02:34AM (#49357702)
Microsoft considers it a bonus if a hype lets one department cripple another department.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by chocrates on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @03:04PM (#49350927)
GitHub uptime is cyclical. It's bad because they won't focus on the core, and then the right users complain and GitHub focuses on core again before it repeats. This is just the latest round exacerbated by vibe coding
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by infamouscow on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @12:47AM (#49356966)
Another commenter replied, but was downvoted by angry employees of Microsoft for a fairly anodyne statement.

Microsoft management knows this. It's not like there haven't been attempts to solve these core problems. The issue is GitHub was built by exceptional engineers, and none of those people are still around.

I maintain all these problems began when they migrated off Erlang and egitd. :)

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by dgellow on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @06:32PM (#49353740)
It was related to their migration to Azure as far as I know
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by chanux on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @05:09AM (#49358961)
So they completed the migration? Didn't see that being reported.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by dgellow on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @06:49AM (#49359731)
I don’t know
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by EffrafaxOfWug on Thursday August 20, 2026 @05:59AM (#49372513)
Probably not. Also they still haven't added ipv6 support
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by Klonoar on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @02:16PM (#49365114)
Nobody disputes they had issues before, it’s the rate of issues that is even more noticeable now.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by meerita on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:42PM (#49350547)
I can't believe they've been asleep all these months, not foreseeing that AI would generate more commits and Git usage and, consequently, not preparing themselves to scale.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by jjice on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @02:58PM (#49350846)
I want to believe that it's justification, but looking at the historical uptime [0] (early data is actually overly positive on this graph since it had to scrape historical data instead of realtime), I can't be convinced of this anymore. They do have more load - that's for sure. I just don't believe it's an excuse for their god awful uptime.

[0] https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by layer8 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:02PM (#49351836)
Turns out that the cloud doesn’t scale that easily by itself after all?
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by aleph_minus_one on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:22PM (#49352128)
> Turns out that the cloud doesn’t scale that easily by itself after all?

The cloud does scale that easily, the software doesn't. :-)

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by lluisantoni on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:24PM (#49352163)
That is a good point. And this issue looks analogous to what is happening in the research publication world (arxiv, peer-review, etc). In particular, I wonder whether code pushed is of lesser quality, CI pipelines break more often too, and this saturates github servers.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by LarsDu88 on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @04:24PM (#49352167)
The fools thought we needed data centers for agents, but we actually needed data centers for Github!
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by winrid on Tuesday August 18, 2026 @09:37PM (#49355461)
That doesn't answer the question at all. I suspect most components are already horizontally scalable, if not, which ones? That would be an interesting discussion for HN.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by rpearl on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @12:10AM (#49356694)
That is 455 commits per second. I know that's not qps over the system but it's not that huge of an input number either. Not for big tech like msft.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by zldar on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @07:57AM (#49360324)
COOs lie. There is no chance that MSFT would openly admit that its mandated vibe coding activities at GitHub have failed.

What speaks against the volume activity is that GitHub works perfectly after an outage. People don't just stop AI coding after an outage. If anything, the volume should be higher for people to catch up.

It is more like rebooting a vibe coded WIN-95 because of a vibe coded integer overflow (joke).

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by ksec on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @08:05AM (#49360395)
This is the part Github is doing really bad at, it's PR.

Had these DATA and message been tossed around more people wouldn't be so frustrated and would be more understanding.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by smcleod on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @09:08AM (#49361143)
GitHub's reliability has been going downhill longer than AI has been becoming popular. I feel like the load is becoming the scapegoat.
Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bcx on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @10:15AM (#49361933)
14X at github's scale is unlikely an easy problem to solve.

Additionally, there is a strategic reason to be the repository for all code, free, or not which is likely at conflict with reliability goals.

(e.g. they could get rid of their free tier which would improve reliability at the cost of allowing a new competitor to be the repository for all new AI driven code)

The long term strategic benefit of being the home to all code (or most of it) is enormous. They are likely balancing that strategic goal with what is seen as short-term internally as reliability.

Re:Ask HN: GitHub employees what's going on? Why? by bmitc on Wednesday August 19, 2026 @11:24PM (#49370035)
Maybe they should have planned on that when they went all in on Copilot stuff several years ago? Even the GitHub organization is under the larger Cloud/AI organization at Microsoft.

Further, it is clear that Microsoft and GitHub have been strongly encouraging, if not requiring, AI tool use in their own, internal development. I have seen several automated PRs within GitHub repos that were 100% done by AI. Big surprise where that's leading.