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Re:Stop Ruining It by dijksterhuis on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @08:49AM (#48369565)
> Customer delight isn’t something we add to our projects. It’s what’s left if we don’t ruin it.

my anecdotal experience in this is that getting back X (customer delight / curiosity etc) once you’ve ruined it will usually take longer / be more costly than having just not ruined it in the first place.

also, at some point you will ruin it. at that point it’s a question of by how much and if you choose to un-ruin it.

sometimes doing nothing is a more useful skill than doing something.

Re:Stop Ruining It by FinnLobsien on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:53AM (#48370288)
I think it depends on what exactly happened.

If a heritage shoe company doubles prices, moves production overseas while producing worse quality, and then markets explicitly to a fringe political group, it's hard to un-ruin it. Brand images are sticky and production facilities don't re-emerge in your home country out of thin air.

But if a software company were to genuinely own up to their mistakes and say "We went wrong in this specific way and we're going to fix it by sunsetting [hated feature], reverting pricing to the old policy, and prioritize fixing application speed and stability", then you can salvage some trust.

Re:Stop Ruining It by JohnFen on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:22AM (#48370671)
> But if a software company were to genuinely own up to their mistakes and say

Even then, it depends. If I've already switched away from said product or service, I'm not coming back regardless of what they say.

Re:Stop Ruining It by b112 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:24AM (#48370706)
Yes. Definitely there's a sweet spot here, in terms of how locked in you are, tied into the ecosystem. A company may have time to course correct, if there is some pain for customers leaving.

At least, more room than if not.

I'm not referring to evil lockin, simply... a very nice degree of customization, and no way to port that to a similar service.

Re:Stop Ruining It by b112 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:23AM (#48370677)
Getting funding for meatspace projects is beyond what most VCs will do, and I'm sure this is adjacent to that. I literally have about 10 different hardware projects that are all viable, all leading edge, all minor to develop, along with a strong software component (which is where the juice is).

Do you think any form of response is garnered to such proposals? No, naturally not. Hardware is wrought with pitfalls, production issues such as setting up, moving production... as you mention, being one of them.

Everything may be as molasses with hardware, but... it can be exceptionally profitable. Ah well. Rant over.

Re:Stop Ruining It by hemogloben on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:52PM (#48372808)
An example of this was JetBrains' initial subscription plan.

Early Sept 2015 JetBrains announced their initial subscription plan to SIGNIFICANT public pushback. Within two weeks they announced new terms (essentially their current hybrid subscription plan).

Re:Stop Ruining It by naravara on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:10AM (#48369802)
I go back and forth on this. Maybe it is the right inclination with software development where there is a strong drive to keep pushing more features and trade offs in terms of “technical debt” or footprint can get pretty abstract at scale. But then I think of an operation like the Disney Parks and it really seems like the delight comes from constant, sustained effort. They’ve got people around attending to everything and fussing over every little detail around the park. They can emergency dispatch characters to an area if they see kids who seem like they might start to have a bad time. They have secret stashes of diaper changing kits and first aid materials so Mickey Mouse can show up and save the day if someone has an accident. There’s ways they’re not ruining it I guess, but the main impression I get is that they just never take their foot off the gas when it comes to making sure everyone is having a good time.
Re:Stop Ruining It by fydorm on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:35AM (#48371631)
All of the things you described ARE "it". They're part of the Disney Parks "product". If they were to remove or change that active effort, that could be considered "ruining it". But continuing to operate in a way they've found delights their customers is exactly what Seth is arguing for, not a violation of it.
Re:Stop Ruining It by iLoveOncall on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @08:59AM (#48369661)
I've read haikus that made more sense than this streak of random words.

Feels like an article generated using GPT-1.

Re:Stop Ruining It by zaphar on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:05AM (#48369751)
Feels to opposite to me. GPT-1 would have exploded the word count to about 10x and made it sound way more breathlessly influencer coded. GPT-1 would have written something that was 180 degrees opposite of what the post is communicating.

Perhaps you need to read it again a little more carefully?

Re:Stop Ruining It by stavros on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:33AM (#48370066)
I think it was hyperbole, and that the GP does not literally believe this was written by GPT-1, which did not produce coherent sentences.
Re:Stop Ruining It by Hugsbox on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:25AM (#48369990)
> Trust isn’t something a brand builds with an ad campaign. It’s what’s left if the marketers don’t ruin it.

So much this. Are ads still a measurably good investment for businesses? I'm assuming they wouldn't run them anymore if not, but they feel so out of touch these days that it's really hard to imagine them really working on anybody.

Sorry for the side-tangent, just felt like that last bit of the post really drove home the point best - at least for me.

Re:Stop Ruining It by graemep on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:37AM (#48370856)
Its always been hard to know. "about one-half the money I spend for advertising is wasted, but I have never been able to decide which half." dates back more than a century

Some spend is just in case. Some spend is for prestige (we are on TV!). Some is for vague reasons that cannot be measured.

Re:Stop Ruining It by SoftTalker on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:59PM (#48372912)
Except for targeted online ads based on browsing/search history or other spying, most advertising is just brand/product awareness, hoping to create a memorable impression.
Re:Stop Ruining It by vitally3643 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:11PM (#48373088)
What really baffles me is that among people my age in the sorts of circles I interact with, that memorable impression is overwhelmingly negative. Seeing an ad at all creates an immediate negative association. "This brand/company feels they have the inviolable right to assert themselves on me and forcibly take up my attention and time". It's wild that this sentiment either hasn't percolated up to advertisers, or (more likely) they just don't care.
Re:Stop Ruining It by SoftTalker on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:29PM (#48373312)
General, non-obtrusive and non-targeted ads don't really bother me. Maybe because I grew up with ads in newspapers, magazines, billboards, radio and TV. The latter two were most annoying because they interrupt the programming, but I understood that's how broadcasters make money so that they could operate.

Deliberately annoying pop-ups, nags, auto-playing media, distracting animation, etc. in online ads does provoke the sort of negative reaction you describe. I block as much of that as I can. I would not really mind a website that had reasonable number of static, inline ads that didn't slow down scrolling or page loads and were relevant to the content of the site. But that's pretty rare.

Re:Stop Ruining It by nick486 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:55PM (#48373711)
for me, some ads also utterly ruin the brand of the ad host.

For example: here in France we have this one company whose business model is "get a 18.xx€ refund on your order (20€/mo subscription)". its rather obvious how this kind of system makes money.

i had some elderly family members get scammed this way, and I absolutely refuse to ever return to any webside that displays this "offer from our partner". after checkout ofc.

so i get my train tickets on trainline, and amazon gets what businesses fnac and darty should have gotten. manomano must've lost a couple thousand euros of purchases from me already, hope it was worth it to them.

Re:Stop Ruining It by processing on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:58PM (#48374632)
looking at running sneakers yesterday of a new brand I've never come across before - looked pretty interesting and bookmarked for later...within minutes of visiting the site I was seeing retargeting ads for the brand. Instant turn-off - no longer interested.
Re:Stop Ruining It by denkmoon on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @01:55AM (#48380437)
> Some spend is for prestige

I cannot describe the disgust I feel seeing my employer's logo on a fucking F1 car.

Re:Stop Ruining It by hootz on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:49AM (#48370249)
I guess they can work when no one knows about you. After a certain point, there must be diminishing returns in comparison to just your current customers recommending your product to their friends.
Re:Stop Ruining It by Hugsbox on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:35AM (#48370835)
I'd imagine so, yeah. Like, I can't imagine what value French's gets out of running mustard advertisements as an example. Feels like some of these companies have entire marketing teams whose main job is to justify their own existence because upper management hasn't yet figured out that they're not going to reach anybody who's never heard of mustard before.
Re:Stop Ruining It by tardedmeme on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:35AM (#48370091)
According to Cory Doctorow, P&G (Proctor&Gamble) canceled $200m of ad spend and saw no change in sales
Re:Stop Ruining It by rileymat2 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:50AM (#48370256)
https://www.reuters.com/article/business/pg-says-cut-digital...

> The consumer goods conglomerate said it cut digital spending by more $100 million between April and June of 2017 and continued with the cuts at the same rate for the rest of the year.

>P&G, however, has not cut overall media spending. Funds have been reinvested to increase media reach, including in areas such as TV, audio and ecommerce media, a company spokeswoman told Reuters.

Looks like they still spent it in marketing and advertising just not digital spending. Also for sticky old well known consumer goods I’d wager sales drop slowly.

Re:Stop Ruining It by doctoboggan on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:45AM (#48371783)
> Are ads still a measurably good investment for businesses?

Attempting to measure the effectiveness of ads is basically what drove the creation of the surveillance capitalism monster we all know and love today.

Re:Stop Ruining It by soupspaces on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:06PM (#48373013)
What if ads weren't about money in the first place and that was the excuse used for surveillance?
Re:Stop Ruining It by andsoitis on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:11PM (#48373082)
> What if ads weren't about money in the first place and that was the excuse used for surveillance?

Care to explain, to pick one advertiser, how Nestlé is primarily running a surveillance scheme when advertising one of their products, rather than trying to get me to buy more of it?

Re:Stop Ruining It by FinnLobsien on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @09:44AM (#48370190)
As someone who works in marketing, this is extremely true. Right now, LLMs are causing a lot of one-time cashing in of trust.

I've seen this pattern a bunch:

1. Person builds trust on X/LinkedIn or via an insightful blog/newsletter (substitute your channel of choice here) for a few years because they have unique opinions, interesting stories from personal experience, are entertaining/charismatic, or share data/insights nobody else has.

2. They realize "AI can do this now" and use AI trained on past content to generate the content.

3. They post the content

4. People initially keep engaging because their AI-generated content inherits some of the trust they built up

5. People realize their posts are AI slop and feel tricked or simply no longer enjoy the posts.

6. Engagement falls off a cliff because the assumption has changed from "If I see this person/company in a feed, it's got a good chance to be interesting" to "If I see this person/company in a feed, it's guaranteed to be AI slop.

There's a temporary "Have your cake and eat it too" phase where you get the results without doing the work. But once that ends, you have to build the brand all over again because it's been tarnished.

(Fyi my take isn't that everything needs to be hand-written and no AI can ever be used in writing. Just that this cycle keeps repeating because people don't do the work anymore. You can use AI and still be doing the work of generating genuinely good writing)

Re:Stop Ruining It by munificent on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:40AM (#48370897)
> a lot of one-time cashing in of trust.

I agree completely, but this is part of a larger pattern in society lately around short-term thinking. It seems like everyone is trying to cash ASAP and fewer people are investing or building long-term.

Between crumbling social institutions, climate change, governmental chaos, and increasing economic inequality, I think people just don't believe in the future as much as they used to. If you stop believing in the future, then making choices with short-term positives but long-term negatives becomes rational. You won't be around when the chickens come home to roost. Or, at least, you believe you'll have much bigger problems to worry about then anyway. Better to get yours now while you can.

Re:Stop Ruining It by ryandrake on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:36PM (#48372564)
> I think people just don't believe in the future as much as they used to.

When I was younger, we had the Jetsons, the tail end of the space race, Star Trek, Carl Sagan, home computers took off, we witnessed increasing standards of living, politics were deescalating, the fall of the Berlin Wall and (effectively) the end of the imminent nuclear annihilation threat. Lots of reasons to be hopeful for the future and to see sci-fi-like technical progress as progress and empowerment.

Nowadays, we have no hopeful vision of the future--not even in sci-fi. We know tomorrow is going to be worse than today. We know technology advancements are meant to siphon our money and time away. We're not going to get flying cars, but we'll get costly subscriptions for everything. We're not going to get tours of Jupiter, but we will get mass-surveillance and phone addictions. Political extremism is increasing, with anger, belligerence, cruelty, and ignorance being major planks in political parties across the world. And finally, we know Climate Change is going to wreck everything, even if none of that comes to pass. Current generations no longer believe they will have it better than previous generations.

Re:Stop Ruining It by FinnLobsien on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @04:02AM (#48381228)
I agree with what you’re talking about but I don’t agree this is analogous.

I’m talking about a one-time cashing in of trust one already has built up, not saying whatever the algorithm demands to go viral.

These people already have the thing others are expecting from content creation!

I think this is different from the short-term phenomenon you describe where people want to get rich quick via crypto/prediction markets/wallstreetbets/etc.

It’s much more like you already have enough to retire on, but cash it all out because your cousin’s tattoo artist’s stepson recently got a bachelor’s in finance and they won’t charge any management fees.

Re:Stop Ruining It by pjc50 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:05AM (#48371249)
X is itself a massive cash-in of trust by the new owner.

But yes, a lot of the tech industry these days resembles people looking at a rainforest and thinking how much value could be derived from clear-cutting it. Massive one-time extraction of value, long term destruction of an ecosystem, resulting in harms distributed all over the world in ways that aren't obviously linked.

Re:Stop Ruining It by JackFr on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:09AM (#48370472)
Path to X happiness:

- Eschew the "For You", Read tweets only from people you have chosen to follow.

- Only follow people who have a bona fide livelihood outside social media, avoid anyone for whom income is largely driven by "engagement".

Re:Stop Ruining It by FinnLobsien on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @04:04AM (#48381243)
I agree, but sadly it’s kinda like telling someone the best way to have fun at the casino without losing too much.

It’s an environment designed for the exact opposite of your best intentions.

Re:Stop Ruining It by stackghost on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:46AM (#48370976)
>Person builds trust on X/LinkedIn

... You don't actually advise them to post on LinkedIn, do you? You know all the engagement on LinkedIn is fake, right?

Re:Stop Ruining It by taikahessu on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:46PM (#48372732)
I just started posting on LinkedIn. It is a more niche audience, Finns, only 5 million of us. I know my posts aren't fake and the people there are one I know. What do you mean by fake? Do you mean fake as in "I am here to sell you my product, which is myself" kind of fake? Is that a feature of LinkedIn or the harsh reality of the "adult world" business? Like sitting in a bunch of meetings trying to figure which of the parties are trying to screw you the least when you're about to buy something. There's levels of fake and you just need to figure out the rest. In a sense yes, of course it's fake, but I'm not sure that the platform is to blame. Same as IG I guess, but I can't say I don't use it.
Re:Stop Ruining It by stackghost on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @06:17PM (#48377101)
I've never seen a single LinkedIn post that wasn't overinflated horseshit like "I was late for a job interview and stopped to feed a starving dog. I missed the job interview. The next day I got a call from the CEO of the company offering me a management position. Turns out he was the dog. Never compromise who you are. #grindset"

These days it's all just that, or else people flinging AI slop past each other.

I have never seen a single piece of content on LinkedIn that I felt was genuine, or that wasn't obvious engagement bait.

Re:Stop Ruining It by epsteingpt on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:01AM (#48370378)
The irony that the packages system looks so obviously and clearly 'baseline claude' designed is a sign of the moment itself.
Re:Stop Ruining It by fifticon on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:11AM (#48370508)
This reminds me of trying to use File Explorer in Windows 11. I wish I could turn all their electron-app "improvements" off, to make it useful again, like it once was.. Case in point: Explorer now has tabs. I don't need tabs, I need a single tab, and a window title bar so I can drag the damn thing around. And.. my single tab, now tries to show the folder name, truncated to a few useless characters, so I now have tabs called "C:\folder\sub1\...", while the rest of the row is EMPTY SPACE (which I, admittedly can still use to drag the window around; thank you for that, but it will probably be filled with ADS come next month.)

"Oh, but you can just see the folder name in the address bar in the next row instead then!"

NO I CAN'T. Because they electron-css-screwed that up too.. It now shows a bunch of toolbar buttons <- -> ^ , then a computer screen??, then >, then [...] Then they truncate the file path to only show parts of it, starting the rest with ... Is it because we are out of space? I don't know, every part of the folder path has been separated with [ > ] (because / or \ was obviously the worst idea ever.) Then, to the right of it all, we get a big [Search log ] edit field, followed by a spyglass. So, I get two broken displays of the actual folder path, and a lot of 'candy' I did not ask for. Why does the search tool need so much space, before I am using it at all? What does it need, apart from maybe the single spyglass icon? Instead, the actual path that my object by necessity ALWAYS will have, has been chopped up to unrecognisability.

It reeks of KPI and bonus performance reviews, "we must improve the round shape of the wheel, to get our bonus and not be downsized".

Re:Stop Ruining It by pjc50 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:02AM (#48371210)
The tabs are fine. Tabs in "cmd" are also good.

The window handles, on the other hand .. this was correct in Windows 3.0 and there's basically no good reason to have changed it. There should be a title bar. Active window should have visibly contrasting title bar. There should be sufficient grab space all round a window to get hold of it.

Bonus points: move your mouse pointer very slowly around a bottom curved corner window handle on Windows 11. Ask yourself: how well does "place I am pointing at" line up with "where the curve is"?

Re:Stop Ruining It by robotresearcher on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:02PM (#48372035)
Apple famously mucked up the corner grab targets recently. Would have been utterly impossible in 1984, but now, whatever; ship that half baked shiny.
Re:Stop Ruining It by bigbuppo on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:28PM (#48372444)
Oh man. the complete lack of definition or contrast from window to window is terrible. Which window are you clicking on? Nobody knows. It's especially painful when you have like three or four nested RDP sessions going on.
Re:Stop Ruining It by marcosdumay on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:21PM (#48374106)
The tabs and address bar on Explorer seem to actually be a copy of the default behavior of Dolphin.

If you are going to copy someone, copy from the best, I guess. But Microsoft managed fill their top-space¹ and not let enough space for the address to be properly displayed, so they need to hide information all the time.

The tabs on PowerShell are actually not a copy of Konsole. I guess that's why I always get annoyed by them on Windows, but not on Linux.

1 - There's actual less stuff than on KDE, if you don't count empty space.

Re:Stop Ruining It by account42 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @07:57AM (#48382837)
With Dolphin you don't get a tab bar until you use multiple tabs. Like OP I never saw the point of the feature though - directories aren't like webpages where I might want to open tabs to read later so anything I open should just be a new window that gets its own space.
Re:Stop Ruining It by elevation on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:39AM (#48370880)
> Explorer now has tabs. I don't need tabs

Hey now! The `nautilus' file browser on linux got me hooked on tabs and for years it's been a glaring deficiency of File Explorer. Many tasks involve a collection of directories, and tabs can be ideal for reducing demand for screen space.

I concede the the current Windows implementation is poor but I hope they improve it, rather than dumping tabs entirely.

Re:Stop Ruining It by fsckboy on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:53PM (#48372831)
>Many tasks involve a collection of directories, and tabs can be ideal for reducing demand for screen space.

double pane with tabs would be handy so you could inspect or move files between two tabs. also, i'd really love two pane: filesystem and content viewer

Re:Stop Ruining It by jessetemp on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:38PM (#48373456)
That would actually be a great feature. Opening two file browsers to move stuff around is a really common workflow. Although with current trends we might instead get a chat bot prompt “tell me how you feel about where you want your files to be”
Re:Stop Ruining It by systoll on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @12:02AM (#48379749)
> Although with current trends we might instead get a chat bot prompt “tell me how you feel about where you want your files to be”

That almost feels too optimistic. Google Drive already has 'Suggest File Moves' aka 'Tell me where I should want my files to be'.

It tells me I should have a real hatred of any files being in the root directory, and completely disregard sharing and permissions boundaries.

Re:Stop Ruining It by Romario77 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:54PM (#48373699)
welcome to Norton Commander! Or Far Manager for more modern version.
Re:Stop Ruining It by happymellon on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @12:41AM (#48379973)
So the move from File Manager to explorer was the wrong one?
Re:Stop Ruining It by iknowstuff on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:08PM (#48375537)
tbh all tabs seem like a deficiency in the window management paradigm to me. Instead of tabs our WMs should just allow us to easily list and transition between all windows of an app.
Re:Stop Ruining It by Hammershaft on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:53PM (#48376123)
Absolutely agree. Recently learning emacs with vertico/consult/orderless/embark has had me thinking constantly about how needlessly crippled most OS windowing system workflows are.
Re:Stop Ruining It by throw1234567891 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @07:44AM (#48382722)
I can’t imagine working with a browser without tabs.
Re:Stop Ruining It by saurik on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @12:26PM (#48386145)
But like, once you start using a better window manager (as exist on Linux for X11), maybe you would no longer be able to imagine working in a window that couldn't simultaneously mix tabs from different apps.
Re:Stop Ruining It by iknowstuff on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @06:19PM (#48390908)
Consider that chrome is now adding a split pane too. So you have tabs, tab groups, vertical split.. surely soon they'll add horizontal split and you'll have a full tmux or a tiling window manager within chrome

Shouldn't that just be your OS? It should show a list of open windows, allow you to group them and switch between windows within a group, show side by side etc

Re:Stop Ruining It by bruce343434 on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:07AM (#48409924)
HaikuOS got this right. Tabs are a property of the OS side of the window, not the application side
Re:Stop Ruining It by everdrive on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @09:20AM (#48383646)
People's workflows will vary but I never find myself using tabs in Dolphin. (ie, the KDE file manager) If I'm dragging and dropping, I want to see both the source and the destination, so I usually just open two windows and tile one on the left an one on the right. This always works great and is a lot like Norton Commander, which seems relevant.
Re:Stop Ruining It by Legend2440 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:46AM (#48370985)
>Case in point: Explorer now has tabs. I don't need tabs

Speak for yourself. Tabs in file explorer and notepad are my favorite windows feature in decades. I can't believe it took them this long.

Re:Stop Ruining It by RaftPeople on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:12PM (#48373094)
Ya, I just started using them in File Explorer recently and I really like them because I frequently had multiple windows open within the same tree, this is much cleaner. I can't believe it took me so long to actually click the "+" and try it.
Re:Stop Ruining It by zamadatix on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:00AM (#48371178)
You can pull the File Explorer tabs from my cold, dead hands!

Also, I'm pretty sure the tabs were WinUI/XAML based, not WebView2 based. There are some "Electron" (i.e. web tech stack) components in File Explorer these days but I don't think most of the things you're complaining about are part of that.

Re:Stop Ruining It by contextfree on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @06:45PM (#48377334)
What in file explorer is still web tech based?
Re:Stop Ruining It by p-t on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:17AM (#48371395)
every day i am more glad i cannot update to 11 because windows 10 seems to be better in every way
Re:Stop Ruining It by jollyllama on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:27AM (#48370742)
Maybe "don't ruin stuff" should be a KPI
Re:Stop Ruining It by ShadowOfThePit on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:57AM (#48371141)
Of the things that you could complain about modern Explorer and Notepad, you choose tabs? Really? A handy QoL feature that many have been requesting?
Re:Stop Ruining It by osjdiwnfiwjfi on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:01PM (#48372943)
Gotta keep the “I’m such a greybeard, I do things more clumsily than others but look how techy and old school I am” act somehow, right?
Re:Stop Ruining It by account42 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @08:06AM (#48382903)
Why not? Not every text editor needs to be an IDE.
Re:Stop Ruining It by ryukoposting on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:22PM (#48372360)
Every time I was forced to use Windows 7, file browser tabs are something I missed dearly from Linux. But now that I'm forced to use Windows for work almost every day, I find that I almost never use file browser tabs on Windows. No idea why. The tabs show only the dirname, which is what I would want the tabs to do. The UX is mostly okay.

Not being able to grab the top left of the window and drag feels really strange. Plenty of apps encroach on the top bar, but they almost never encroach on the top left. That's where the icon lives, that's the sacred "move the window" space.

Slack has the same problem (hamburger menu in the top left captures clicks, plus a giant search bar in the center) and it's bothersome. But with Slack I don't notice it because I don't really move Slack around. It's permanently maximized on a secondary display. I move Explorer windows around constantly, so I notice it.

Re:Stop Ruining It by ubercow13 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:34PM (#48373390)
Tabs and breadcrumbs are both useful features though, that almost every other OS/DE file manager has supported since forever
Re:Stop Ruining It by devmor on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:46PM (#48374461)
As someone forced to use MacOS Finder regular, and who hates Dolphin/Nautilus/etc, I agree with the OP on this one. I don't need tabs or breadcrumbs in my file explorer.

I need clear, well defined data in the windows and a path.

Re:Stop Ruining It by bionsystem on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:39PM (#48373473)
I tried win 11 for 11 minutes and switched to Linux and never looked back.
Re:Stop Ruining It by Forgeties79 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:44PM (#48373549)
I've been on bazzite for a little over a year and nothing is as satisfying as turning on my computer, getting to the desktop...and silence. No alerts. No sounds. No popups. It's just a blank slate every time.

You really cannot appreciate it until you experience it for a few weeks. It's that new car smell but all the time.

Re:Stop Ruining It by andai on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:02PM (#48373824)
A little while ago I ran Windows XP in a VM, inside Windows 10.

I noted that when I pressed the start key, the start menu opened.

I noted that when I pressed Win+E, an explorer window opened.

Fully rendered. After a single video frame.

On Windows 10, the same thing happens, only several hundred milliseconds later, and then you get to enjoy watching the UI elements get painted in one at a time.

Twenty years of progress.

Re:Stop Ruining It by hunter2_ on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:19PM (#48375671)
Presumably that's to keep hardware sales up, e-waste be damned. You won't notice it taking 8 times longer when you have 8 times as many cores, or whatever.
Re:Stop Ruining It by solid_fuel on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @05:34PM (#48376650)
No I think it's a consequence of so much of the industry abandoning caring about the craft in favor of just shipping whatever garbage checks off their Jira tickets. This is the same attitude that leads to vibe coding. It's the idea that the code doesn't matter and the only thing of any importance is the business attached to the product.

It's stupid and shortsighted, but the entire industry seems pretty damned nearsighted these days.

Re:Stop Ruining It by winrid on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @01:47AM (#48380374)
It's mostly the result of hiring too many stupid product managers and engineers that don't give a shit.

Even if you didn't read the code if you cared even an ounce you wouldn't ship this crap.

Re:Stop Ruining It by ruszki on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @05:53AM (#48381975)
The problem is that there are more of those, than those who care. And when money pours in, it’s a lost fight. When there is wealth, it’s beneficial for you in the short term to just grab from it as much as possible, than to improve things, if you’re not good in your job. And hell, most people are not especially good.

There are still pockets, where if you don’t push it, you loose. But you need to search for it. Average developers won’t ever work at such places. They won’t ever encounter them, because almost no developer jobs needs that.

Btw, you can make such positions in every company. I did it, several times. And it’s very beneficial even salary wise.

Re:Stop Ruining It by Ntrails on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @10:33AM (#48384672)
> It's mostly the result of hiring too many stupid product managers and engineers that don't give a shit.

If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix it.

Except, they hired all these people and expect them to do Stuff. What are they supposed to do?

Re:Stop Ruining It by throw1234567891 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @07:42AM (#48382702)
Tell that to my Citrix guy.
Re:Stop Ruining It by madhato on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:29PM (#48375806)
Windows Explorer taking multiple seconds to load and often a bright flash of a white background during the load was exactly what pushed me over the edge to Linux.
Re:Stop Ruining It by bitwize on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @01:02AM (#48380097)
Few years back I was complaining to a coworker: "I just love opening Teams and watching it draw its subwindows in one by one, like a Windows 1.0 app on an 8086."

First flat design, now sluggish window redraws... Windows is getting retro hipster. Will 26H2 take away overlapping windows?

Re:Stop Ruining It by vjk800 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @02:54AM (#48380820)
I'm forced to use the Microsoft ecosystem at work and the sluggishness of it is a major source of procrastination. I find myself putting off small tasks forever, because waiting for word files to open, browsing folder structures in Teams, etc. are all mildly painful experiences. I suspect a lot of people do this, and maybe all of them don't even realize why they are doing this. The effect of sluggish user interfaces on overall productivity is probably well underestimated.

The same goes to some extent to anything with a web interface, for example Databricks.

Re:Stop Ruining It by iamacyborg on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @10:31AM (#48384657)
> at work

A lot of performance issues are down to MDM software.

Re:Stop Ruining It by econ on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @01:33PM (#48386999)
I wrote this, I find it spectacularly hilarious. It is a desktop text editor in a self contained html file. (50 lines)

https://text-edit.go-here.nl

You put it on your desktop and (assuming you have a browser running) instantly brings up a text editor that can only load and save.

If you feel you need some feature you edit the html file and add the code yourself. (Preferably using text-edit)

Unlimited capabilities:)

Re:Stop Ruining It by Aperocky on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:22PM (#48374122)
Meanwhile I've been happily using ls, find, grep like it is 1980s.

They still work exactly the same, and now even my agents can do it.

Imagine if agents attempted to use explorer, even powershell seems like it is confusing enough.

Re:Stop Ruining It by CagedCoder on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:31PM (#48374259)
I was really excited when I saw tabs were coming to the file explorer, but I can't tell now if I don't like tabs in file explorer or if I don't like all the other things that made file explorer worse when tabs got added
Re:Stop Ruining It by 2cheeze4u on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @03:10PM (#48374778)
Tabs on file explorer is one of the most useful feature updates in Win 11.
Re:Stop Ruining It by fidotron on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @03:43PM (#48375224)
Aside from the other problems the emergent trend of shoehorning window level tabs into apps kind of indicates a failure of OS level window management.

If people really want tabs in everything then have the windows enable tabbing between multiple contained apps.

Re:Stop Ruining It by contextfree on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @06:43PM (#48377321)
This was a feature in Windows 10 preview builds for a while (2018-2019ish iirc) but it never shipped to retail.
Re:Stop Ruining It by giancarlostoro on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:35PM (#48375909)
> so I now have tabs called "C:\folder\sub1\..."

This is the most idiotic thing I've heard today, who UAT'd this? Does Windows even bother having a UAT team? If they have a QA / UAT phase in their process for Windows they need to fire everyone and build a new UAT team for Windows, this is getting so ridiculous it hurts.

Meanwhile I'm enjoying both Mac and Linux daily.

Re:Stop Ruining It by sunaookami on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:46PM (#48376045)
They fired their QA team 10 years ago and thought the Windows Insider Program could replace them.
Re:Stop Ruining It by justinclift on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @07:22PM (#48377596)
They'd have to list to the feedback from the insiders though, and that doesn't seem like a MS thing to do.
Re:Stop Ruining It by Night_Thastus on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:58PM (#48376184)
Join those of us using File Pilot.

It's still fairly early days, but it's SCREAMING fast and I find it very intuitive to use. :)

Lots of customization and power, but the defaults are all quite reasonable.

Re:Stop Ruining It by winrid on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @12:04AM (#48379765)
Some related things I noticed just today:

- the close button in outlook is HIDDEN until you move the window - in Gdrive they list the selected filename at the bottom. They have the entire page width to show the file name. It truncates at like 70px.

Re:Stop Ruining It by bambax on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @02:23AM (#48380619)
The problem with Windows is the users aren't the buyers, so they don't matter.

I hate Windows 11 immensely. At home I use Mac, Linux and... Windows 7. But at my current client I have to use Windows 11. I have no choice; I can either accept that or leave.

So at this point Windows could send small electrical shocks with every keystroke, it would not make a difference whatsoever.

Re:Stop Ruining It by pjmlp on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @02:56AM (#48380831)
Tabs are great, especially in laptops.

Modern Explorer is a WinUI/UWP app, nothing to do with Electron, it could be worse.

Re:Stop Ruining It by DeathArrow on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @07:21AM (#48382519)
>I don't need tabs

I do use tabs in Explorer quiet frequently.

Re:Stop Ruining It by dreamcompiler on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @12:25PM (#48386140)
I can understand companies other than Microsoft using Electron because of the byzantine APIs required to make a native GUI app in Windows. But why would Microsoft do this? Have they forgotten how to use their own software??

Wait, never mind. Stupid question.

Re:Stop Ruining It by justinsaccount on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:58AM (#48371145)
Wait, the example held up for "Stop ruining it" is a company that sells snake oil audiophile bullshit?
Re:Stop Ruining It by kennyadam on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:23AM (#48371489)
The product descriptions on audiophile equipment are always gold!

"Designed as the foundation of every great music system, our Power Plant AC regenerators embody an uncompromising commitment to excellence. By rebuilding power from the ground up with state-of-the-art engineering and meticulous precision, they deliver the stable, pure energy essential for revealing music in its truest form."

The product image for this "Power Plant" that no doubt costs tens of thousands has what appears to be a poorly Photoshopped "Improvement" factor meter on the front that goes from 1x to 1000x lol.

https://www.psaudio.com/cdn/shop/products/P20-Black-front.pn...

Re:Stop Ruining It by TremendousJudge on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:20PM (#48373197)
wow that's actually insane, the fact that they would have an "improvement" dial is ridiculous by itself, but also the picture looks extremely fake? is this a scam website? leaves me wondering what the product actually looks like

btw it costs $9,999 according to google

edit: I couldn't help researching it, the picture looks like that because the device doesn't actually have analog needles, it has an lcd screen with analog needles rendered onto it. I guess they had to cut costs somewhere, because their customers are very budget-conscious. so probably an actual picture of the device looked unpalatable to the marketers, and they decided that the crappy photoshop would be fine.

Re:Stop Ruining It by rightbyte on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:23PM (#48375721)
It would be funny if the "improvement dial" measured amplifier gain in a linear scale.

Except just being bogus, what could it show that "improves" the signal? It can't lower the noise.

Re:Stop Ruining It by wl on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @05:04PM (#48376260)
From the manual:

> The Improvement Factor is an average of the Voltage Output and the THD output. It gives you a factor of how much the AC power is improved by the P20.

Which also doesn't make much sense to me. So the lower the THD, the less improvement? And averaging that with the 120 V output? So the 230 V European version has a higher improvement factor?

Re:Stop Ruining It by TremendousJudge on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @10:02AM (#48384256)
I think the measure goes like this: the higher the dial, the more you feel you are getting your money's worth out of your 10k usd purchase. it's a fantastic feature, really
Re:Stop Ruining It by Eric_WVGG on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:00AM (#48371183)
with blue LEDs, an instant demerit on any consumer electronic
Re:Stop Ruining It by nathan_compton on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:59AM (#48371166)
It is in the nature of capital to ruin it - if users feel great about a product it implies that there is more to wring out of them. The ideal product leaves the user with nothing but the utility the product provides with no extra pleasure. If your employee loves to work for you, you're paying them too much. They can't hate to work for you (unless they have no other choice) but if they feel really good about it, that is a sign of a problem.
Re:Stop Ruining It by munificent on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:00AM (#48371175)
Don't let the brevity of this post dissuade you from its value. I believe Seth is getting at a very good psychological insight.

By default, people give a lot of trust and benefit of the doubt. Everyone's account in life starts out a little positive when it comes to trust, welcome, empathy, and believe.

But the flip side of that is that people have a very good memory for past transgressions. When someone has extended you a little trust, or given you some time to learn your product, they will absolutely remember if you turn around and harm them.

It takes only a match to burn a bridge, but a year to rebuild it.

Re:Stop Ruining It by Syzygies on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:04AM (#48371232)
There is a meaningful design axis here, how one views one's role.

In Bordeaux, winemakers consider themselves geniuses manipulating a many variety blend. In Alsace, winemakers view their role as not screwing up God's work.

Re:Stop Ruining It by munificent on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:03PM (#48372975)
Beautiful metaphor.

I look at my own work as a mixture of these two. Not interfering with the parts of the world and other people that are already providing their unique value, but also adding my own particular contribution as well.

Re:Stop Ruining It by aerodexis on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:04AM (#48371231)
Sounds like subsidiarity to me
Re:Stop Ruining It by mft_ on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @11:56AM (#48371934)
In a similar vein, I've argued in many a corporate meeting that there's no such thing as "empowerment".

People start out wanting to achieve things, change things to be better, do a good job.

The active issue is disempowerment, created by other people (usually but not always senior) within the organisation.

So the question isn't "how to empower people", but rather "how to prevent disempowerment of people".

This isn't always popular, as it shifts the focus and responsibility for different behaviour away from the disempowered rank and file, towards the dysfunctional leadership.

Re:Stop Ruining It by ryandrake on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:41PM (#48372646)
I'm not sure when it happened, but there was a definite inflection point some time in my software career, where we all stopped asking "What does the user want to do with their computer?" and moved over to "What do we want the user to do with our software? And, it's been downhill since then. We stopped treating the user as the driver of the car, and pushed him into the passenger seat. Now users are just along for the ride and they're going where tech companies are driving, whether they want to or not. User need is no longer a driver in product decisions. Users are just the denominator in all the metrics everyone is chasing.
Re:Stop Ruining It by munificent on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:10PM (#48373068)
> I'm not sure when it happened

I know exactly when it happened: when people stopped buying software.

When you had to walk into a store, pick up a box, read the bullet points on the back, and pay a decent chunk of cash for that program, you were incentivized to do at least a little research and ensure you were getting something useful. You would be stuck with it (and with exactly it in the form you bought it, without hope for an endless stream of updates).

That in turn incentivized software companies to make products that were worth real money to people and to care about their reputation.

Once everything because free (sorry, not free, ad-driven), that whole calculus went out the window. What it was replaced with has a lot of upsides. If every app on my phone cost me $50 with another $20 for every upgrade I've ever gotten, I surely couldn't afford half of them, and I'm in a better income bracket than much of the world.

But it has as a huge downside that it no longer centers the experience of individual humans with agency. Instead, users are treat as a sort of aggregate stream of fungible attention units. A software change that alienates a million users but garners you 1.1 new users is a net win.

Companies are longer trying to maximize users, they are trying to maximize usage. You exist only to be a drop in a bucket of liquid attention.

Re:Stop Ruining It by priorcod on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:45PM (#48373570)
This is it. When software was built to provide legitimate, tangible value to the user.
Re:Stop Ruining It by vjk800 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @03:00AM (#48380851)
> I know exactly when it happened: when people stopped buying software.

Things are not, however, much better for software that people actually buy. That is, paid-for apps in Android and Apple app stores.

Re:Stop Ruining It by everdrive on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @10:20AM (#48384511)
network effects from how the rest of the industry has reorganized itself.
Re:Stop Ruining It by exmadscientist on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @03:50AM (#48381137)
I think it's not so much about the money as the "When you had to walk into a store... [and] be stuck with it" part. That is, the problem was actually automatic/Internet-enabled updates.

With the physical model you chose your software and it didn't stop working. (It might stop being useful, but that's a different story.) No option to patch later meant a company couldn't ship trash: word would get out and people just wouldn't buy it. (Windows ME, anyone?) Now you can get the rug pulled out from under you on all of your tools, and things "ship" as garbage with a massive "day 1 patch" (and a "day 2 patch" and...) and honestly often never get finished. At least not before they're "retired" and you're "updated" to some dumpster fire that's nothing like what you wanted, and still doesn't even work, and you can't do anything about it.

Re:Stop Ruining It by DrScientist on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @10:10AM (#48384357)
> Companies are longer trying to maximize users, they are trying to maximize usage.

I think this is an important point - so making the software less effective, so tasks take longer, increases 'engagement'.

There is a separate problem I think and that's who is now designing the UI.

As software shifted to the web - where early web apps were very simply interactive documents - designers from the print sphere moved over. This changed the focus from task based workflow thinking in UI design to a much greater emphasis on the visual layout/design of the page, and it seemed like a whole generation's learning about UI design got replaced with a whole generations learning about typography and visual impact.

Re:Stop Ruining It by vitally3643 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:06PM (#48373020)
We stopped considering the user as a human being and started thinking of them as a spherical wallet in a vacuum. The user exists purely as a source of revinue and absolutely no other consideration is given.
Re:Stop Ruining It by rapnie on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:20PM (#48373193)
> We stopped considering the user as a human being

Imho once you say "user" you are already halfway on that path. Look how impersonal your sentence is. Users are an abstract concept that belongs to the app, which in turn is created by the developer who has all kinds of dreams for that app. Just keep calling them people, persons, or specific stakeholder names that correspond to the role they have, and their identified needs. The app serves people, and not the other way around. Not calling people users is a step towards avoiding their disempowerment.

Re:Stop Ruining It by jknoepfler on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:41PM (#48373509)
Try starting your user stories "As a human being fully endowed with creative and critical faculties who yearns for purposeful, reciprocal engagement within my Lebenswelt..." and see how it goes?
Re:Stop Ruining It by rapnie on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:21PM (#48374117)
So you choose "user" then? If you don't have more information than "user" in your user stories you are already on the wrong path. How about "As a person" for a general case, "As a buyer" in your webshop app, "As a solution developer" in your low-code design studio. Etcetera. (You did not add the /s so I'll answer seriously).
Re:Stop Ruining It by jknoepfler on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:10PM (#48375563)
I agree that personification has value, and there's a happy medium to be struck. I don't know that we need to recite a compassion sutra at the head of every story, although I guess it couldn't hurt?
Re:Stop Ruining It by sebastiennight on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @05:36AM (#48381848)
My understanding of user stories is that they specifically are NOT supposed to start with "as a user", but instead, should start with what you called an "empathy sutra" in a sibling comment.

E.G. "As a single mother of four, I want my children to have a nutritious lunch but have very little time to prepare it" might be the first phrase of a user story for your foodmaking robot.

neither "as a user" nor "As a human being fully endowed with creative and critical faculties..." help the product and tech team understand the constraints and yearnings of the person this feature will serve.

PS: I used to have a PO who would write "As a product owner, I want a feature that does X" and it drove me crazy

Re:Stop Ruining It by carlosjobim on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:12PM (#48373095)
I wish! Most companies try to make it extremely difficult for visitors to actually purchase their product online.
Re:Stop Ruining It by thewebguyd on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @05:23PM (#48376504)
That's not unique to tech either. Before my career in tech, I went through school doing retail jobs. The verbiage then was "how do we capture our share of their (the customer's) wallet?" Not how do we provide what they need, a good experience, or whatever else. As if the company was entitled to a portion of the shopper's income.

I found it completely disgusting, and this wasn't unique to one retail chain either. It's how the capital class views people, as a resource to be extracted.

Re:Stop Ruining It by marcosdumay on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:25PM (#48374168)
It's when Apple made an image editor with less functionality than everything else, and it became popular because it could do less.
Re:Stop Ruining It by austinthetaco on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:03PM (#48372982)
Thats because the user stopped becoming the customer from the point of view of the development team. The customer is now people who deal in data collection and analytics and gates and funnels.
Re:Stop Ruining It by osjdiwnfiwjfi on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:03PM (#48372979)
It started when computers (and the Internet) became more affordable and widespread.

No money in the “computer hobbyist” version of reality, but all the money in the world in the “everyone is a potential customer” version of reality.

Re:Stop Ruining It by listenfaster on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:21PM (#48379103)
Yep absolutely agree. I’m saving this comment in my journal.
Re:Stop Ruining It by Am4TIfIsER0ppos on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @11:30AM (#48385435)
> I'm not sure when it happened, but there was a definite inflection point

I know when. 2007 January 9. Steve Jobs announcing the iPhone.

Re:Stop Ruining It by drfloyd51 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:32PM (#48373373)
There are a lot of ads where you are “empowered” to choose between provided choices.

“Manage your privacy your way! Simply sign in to choose what is right for you!”

Nah, I am going to use something else.

Re:Stop Ruining It by m463 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:41PM (#48379281)
I think it is part 3 of: lead, follow or get out of the way
Re:Stop Ruining It by zephen on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @01:43PM (#48387150)
> People start out wanting to achieve things, change things to be better, do a good job.

Like all generalizations, this is only partly true. There are bad actors.

> The active issue is disempowerment, created by other people (usually but not always senior) within the organisation.

Disempowerment (is that a word?) is necessary. So necessary, that entire departments incorporate it as a large part of their mandate. HR, finance, QA...

> So the question isn't "how to empower people", but rather "how to prevent disempowerment of people".

Or more, how to focus the disempowerment on things that matter?

> This isn't always popular, as it shifts the focus and responsibility for different behaviour away from the disempowered rank and file, towards the dysfunctional leadership.

Maybe it's not always popular because some disempowerment is necessary, and framing the entire issue as a necessity for its removal and those who disagree as dysfunctional is needlessly inflammatory and counterproductive?

Re:Stop Ruining It by mft_ on Thursday June 04, 2026 @03:49AM (#48395504)
> Like all generalizations, this is only partly true. There are bad actors.

Of course, but in the organisations I have experience of, I'd estimate that the 'bad actor' rate is very low - certainly a low-single-digit percentage. (I don't work in tech, BTW.)

> Disempowerment (is that a word?) is necessary. So necessary, that entire departments incorporate it as a large part of their mandate. HR, finance, QA...

I think we need to differentiate between different forms of disempowerment. For example, having a set budget to work within (i.e. the disempowerment that a finance department might generate) is structural in nature; and further may either be empowering if an individual or team has freedom to work within those constraints, or disempowering if the budget is too constrained, or changes unpredictably. In contrast, smart committed people having their ideas stamped on irrationally by a bad egotistical leader ultimately leads to disenchanted people who don't want to invest their energy any more.

> Maybe it's not always popular because some disempowerment is necessary, and framing the entire issue as a necessity for its removal and those who disagree as dysfunctional is needlessly inflammatory and counterproductive?

You're maybe not considering the background context of why such a discussion would even be taking place. These discussions spring out of leadership noting somehow (direct observations, discussions, workplace surveys, workplace transformation initiatives, etc.) that people in their organisations are less "empowered" than they (leadership) would wish (with perceived negative impacts) and therefore this is something they want to reverse. They're frustrated and confused: they think they're offering an environment for people to behave as they hope to see, and yet people aren't stepping through the apparently open door.

It's unpopular because asking why people are disempowered shifts the focus from the failings of individuals ("why is this employee not behaving as I expect them to; what stick or lever or additional incentive can I use to improve their behaviour?") to the failings of leadership ("what have I been doing wrong all along to result in this sorry state of affairs? Am I the cause?")

Re:Stop Ruining It by zephen on Friday June 05, 2026 @12:02AM (#48407778)
That, sadly, makes sense.

You would hope a light bulb would turn on, but management who needs those sorts of conversations might often not have the wherewithal to do the right thing, never mind respond positively.

Re:Stop Ruining It by tacostakohashi on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:10PM (#48372166)
I think codebases and optimizations are a lot like this.

A lot of people seem to think the way to make things work better and faster is to add elaborate caching layers and layers and retries and GPUs and multi threading and...

I find the opposite tends to be true. Make things fast and reliable by doing as little as possible. If an API is flakey, make it not flakey, don't cache the result and add a retry loop.

Re:Stop Ruining It by rootlocus on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:47PM (#48373587)
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."

~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Re:Stop Ruining It by sumtechguy on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @03:23PM (#48374963)
Start simple add the rest later when you needed it. How will you know you need it later? At 3AM. If it makes you feel better add a comment what will be needed when it breaks.

I see over and over wildly overdone code. When all I really wanted was some simple if conditions and a couple of loops. But that doesnt scale to XYZ per ns. Does it need to?

Boring wins almost every time.

Re:Stop Ruining It by jstummbillig on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:32PM (#48372504)
Eh.

> Or perhaps: Satisfaction in our work isn’t created by the boss. It’s what’s left if they don’t ruin it.

~no boss sets out to ruin employee satisfaction. It's a byproduct of having to integrate more realities into the smaller scope that employees usually care about, and that is just not easy.

Of course, most bosses are also not great at this – on average bosses are, like everything else, just average – but to assume that bosses "ruin" satisfaction and employees would be longterm fulfilled and create working companies if only left alone is polemic.

Re:Stop Ruining It by aantix on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @12:46PM (#48372737)
The reverse can be true too.

Don't make a bad situation worse.

Re:Stop Ruining It by blt on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:15PM (#48373139)
Sound systems do have an omnipresent "only as good as your weakest link" feeling.

A lossless source (or analog, whatever your preference) and great speakers/amps can't overcome a bad sounding room - or a piece of music that was mixed/mastered poorly.

Re:Stop Ruining It by IAmBroom on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:48PM (#48374489)
But MP3 players have proven that adding another weak link can still enshittify more.
Re:Stop Ruining It by luxuryballs on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:20PM (#48373184)
The education quote is great, I wish selecting text on iPhone was not ruined by the Facebook icon popup.
Re:Stop Ruining It by samcgraw on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:22PM (#48373207)
Aha, once you start seeing via negativa[0] you’ll likely see it everywhere.

[0] https://www.wealest.com/articles/via-negativa (or Antifragile)

Re:Stop Ruining It by kazinator on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:23PM (#48373223)
Paul McGowan makes bullshit:

"Four models. One topology — designed by Darren Myers, engineered by Bob Stadtherr. Driven from a state-of-the-art active power supply that delivers performance benefits no traditional transformer-based passive supply can match. Class A bias of 50 watts means your music spends 99% of its time in the most linear region of the amplifier's operation"

Yikes; run the other way ...

Re:Stop Ruining It by djkoolaide on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:02PM (#48375458)
On his YouTube channel he claimed that FLAC is different from WAV[1]. No need for any of that in my subscriptions anymore.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QNXQ0KOWyc

Re:Stop Ruining It by kazinator on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:34PM (#48375897)
No; he clearly acknowledges that FLAC is lossless, so the audio is bit for bit identical to the original waveform.

The claim is that FLAC decoding digital hardware performs processing which causes noise ("computer hash") if it is not isolated from the audio paths. He gives an example of some hardware where isolation eliminates the problem, supposedly.

I'm skeptical of the claim. Not in the sense whatsoever that I suspect it being false (I don't), but in the sense that the same noisy hardware would produce some "computer hash" even if it were processing uncompressed waveform data. I don't know anything about FLAC, but cursory searches suggest that decoding it is very lightweight. Whether processing raw PCM samples, or decoding FLAC, the hardware would mostly be idle in between producing audio frames (unless it is an embedded processor that is very low in terms of computational power?)

Anyway, he's not simply an crackpot claiming that FLAC quality is inherently different from WAV.

Re:Stop Ruining It by account42 on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @08:32AM (#48383134)
A decade ago I had a portable "MP3 player" that supported FLAC. The processing required to decode it is not that significant.
Re:Stop Ruining It by rcxdude on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @08:56AM (#48383374)
Given a sufficiently crappy hardware setup that the CPU activity is injecting noise into the audio path, then in principle the FLAC decoding could be more inconsistent in that regard, because the processing is much more data-dependent with FLAC. But even with WAV your CPU activity is not going to be completely regular, so this still stretching credibility as something you should actually care about instead of just fixing the underlying problem, which should only be a problem on utterly bargain basement non-audiophile/fool setups anyway.
Re:Stop Ruining It by jp57 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @01:45PM (#48373574)
Just recently it occurred to me that the sage parenting advice, "Don't try to make a happy baby happier," applies to so many other things. Once I had this idea, it seemed like everywhere I looked were people trying to make happy babies happier. Improving tools that work fine, optimizing things where the available margin for improvement is small, etc.
Re:Stop Ruining It by doctorpangloss on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:09PM (#48373903)
On the one hand, you complain about software changing.

On the other hand, you never adopt alternatives.

Re:Stop Ruining It by cs02rm0 on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @02:29PM (#48374227)
MacOS overly rounded corners.
Re:Stop Ruining It by smcg on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @03:18PM (#48374897)
Unless Seth gets the ear of some high-up executives, I don't think this article will change anything. The workers "ruining" products have to do their job, and often don't have much input into these decisions.
Re:Stop Ruining It by sumtechguy on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @03:30PM (#48375061)
those story points do not earn themselves!
Re:Stop Ruining It by profsummergig on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @04:05PM (#48375498)
The bias to action. Buffett and Taleb write about it. People feel like they have to "earn" their time. If something is good, or good enough, they still have to do some sort of "improvement" because they want to feel like they earned their salary.
Re:Stop Ruining It by brailsafe on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @08:10PM (#48377971)
> Curiosity isn’t simply what’s left after a complete education. It’s still there if the system doesn’t ruin it.

Yes, but also some people are shockingly incurious and approach academia and life through a depressingly hollow transactional lens from the beginning. Though if it was there to begin with, there's a good chance it'll be stripped away through the structuring of courses to be measurable first and intriguing second

Re:Stop Ruining It by small_scombrus on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @09:23AM (#48383689)
> some people are shockingly incurious and approach academia and life through a depressingly hollow transactional lens from the beginning

I feel like that's a result of prior bad experience. Noone goes into university, or even primary school a blank slate.

It's very easy to fall into a trap where education is transactional if that's what was modelled to you or that's how previous teachers treated you

Re:Stop Ruining It by brailsafe on Friday June 05, 2026 @02:06AM (#48408587)
I agree, but throughout those earlier steps as well, there's a sizable contingent of people who just never seem interested in asking "why" or "how"
Re:Stop Ruining It by NagatoYuzuru on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @01:32AM (#48380270)
Unless the company and team’s KPI or OKR system changes, things will stay this way. You need something to report on to your superiors. But to you, these things are just another job.
Re:Stop Ruining It by everdrive on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @09:25AM (#48383715)
No, we've got to ruin everything. We might make another $0.05 in the next 6 months if we make our product worse for years. There is NO WAY to avoid this problem, and so we must make things worse no matter what all the itme.
Re:Stop Ruining It by pradn on Wednesday June 03, 2026 @01:12PM (#48386724)
Well, yea. Everyone agrees with these points. Who wants to ruin things for the sake of it?

The reason why things get worse is because of systemic problems: misaligned incentives, information asymmetry, diffuse responsibility, etc. It's actually hard to improve these aspects of large systems. Hence, why the world is an imperfect place.