> Ebert named the film the tenth worst film of 2004 and subsequently put it on his "Most Hated" list.

I dunno, I enjoyed it. I'm a simple man.

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Right?

I highly recommend watching the HBO series, Vinyl (2016) about a record executive from the 1970s & the music business then. All those radio hits - that were hit and the ones that werent - you've always scratched your head about make a lot more sense when you understand the inner workings.

[1] Vinyl (2016)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3186130/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_(TV_series)

And it doesn’t matter how connected you are, movie flops quickly kill careers.

And that other film appears to have had a box office under $1.4m, with a collection of basically nobody notable attached, including the director.

AFAICT he was a pretty honest reviewer giving his own opinions. People have different tastes. Like some people like stinky tofu and others find it disgusting. Some people like The Village and some don't.

My sister likes everything, for example all episodes of Star Wars, 1 though 9. Whereas I only like 4,5,6 and find the rest to be horrible. She liked the latest "Haunted Mansion" so I watched and found it atrocious.

It's fairly easy to corrupt a single person (this happens everyday, everywhere) and even if he was never paid, he probably had people he liked in the industry that he would not dare to criticize because, you know, they were friends.

I'll trust review aggregators any day over a single person's opinion.

https://www.vulture.com/article/rotten-tomatoes-movie-rating...

Or do you mean he was specifically paid by someone to give The Village a bad review? I doubt that would be necessary.

Suffice to say, I eagerly anticipated "The Village" from the moment the first trailer dropped. The costumes looked cool. The colors, the creatures, the mood and the mystery.

I don't think I've ever left a theater quite so disappointed. The twist ruined what had been a magical experience for the better half of the film. I wanted the magic to endure, but I got slapped with a bad episode of "The Outer Limits".

Shyamalan remains a fantastic filmmaker for his hits, but this one hurt me. I don't wait for films anymore.

I don’t really like the world we’ve built, and I fantasize about leaving it behind. That’s a major reason I lived in the Yukon for years (many people living more like the village than outside it)

These people (the village founders) had an idea and went for it. I really like that.

It's a stretch, but makes the water fit into the story better (in my opinion).

Not joking, I am a big strong man but I was holding onto my girlfriend and shaking like a leaf during that movie.

Then the water scene happens and ruined the whole movie for me.

But I still get hairs standing up on the back of my neck if I think too long and hard about 7' tall aliens walking sideways in the distance. (Actually getting creeped out just typing this out).

I love it that there is a thought that can disturb me. I don't know where it comes from and I can't exactly control it.

Anyway, same thing with the Village. Great mood. Great cinematography. Great acting. Supernatural horror ominous period piece. So much well crafted build up that ended with an unfunny rehash of the ending of Monty Python's Holy Grail. Total cop out to the rest of the story. Unforgivable.

As much as I've enjoyed many of Shyamalan's movies, the big problem with them is how much hinges on the twist. To this day I feel very little interest in rewatching them because of that.

edit: I first saw the sixth sense in perfect conditions - a pirated VCD from Malaysia before any publicity for it had happened in the UK, so had no idea what I was getting myself into other than it had Bruce Willis in it. Absolutely blew me away.

edit: found the source:

According to an interview in Scenario magazine (Volume 5, Number 4), Shyamalan had written five drafts of the screenplay before an idea came to him that transformed it into something totally new, leading to a landmark film with powerful performances from the film’s stars. It happened in the sixth draft.

https://www.stevendeeble.com/2016/05/31/evolution-of-a-scree...

I never watched the movie but from all the conversations I’ve heard about it, it sounds like that’s the twist. This 19th-century village is just a probably slightly cult-y hideaway for some people in modern times. Is that right?

As someone else pointed out part of the problem w/how Shyamalan handles it is that too much hinges on the twist in some of his movies.

I feel similar but different to JJ Abrams' Cloverfield universe. Cloverfield Lane and Cloverfield Paradox are just 2 movies where he attaches a random scene at the end to tie them into the Cloverfield universe. Those scenes have nothing to do with the movie, and if left off would not negatively affect the movie itself.

That is exactly what it is supposed to be. Think of it like The Twilight Zone, every story is different but they all exist in a world that is distinct and unnatural.

I think JJ Abrams finally came up with a good way of explaining it to people: "It’s like Cloverfield is the amusement park, and each of these movies is a different ride in that park."

The different timing of the rules is what honestly made me not experience the restrictions - just an odd confusion.

Lastly I remember I walked to the airport , told a stewardess in the airport I was going to try fly same day to Denmark and she looked at me like I was insane ( 3 day covid testing required).

I bought a ticket from a machine walked straight into a place with a passport check landed in Denmark - no test. ( when flying to Denmark the test could be done on landing at the airport I have no idea why but it was legal - they just didn’t bother to mostly)

The airport lady wouldn’t have believed it but even to her , working in global field - changing global differences hadn’t registered.

TLDR You CAN have a The Village situation IRL I experienced it!!

But I’ve read and watched a lot of thrillers so they tend to become obvious after a while.

Edit: Also worth noting that her father is Ron Howard so she probably didn't need the money.

The ending made me feel like, "Duh! Was it all for nothing?"

Edit: [Spoilers Alert]

This is the book: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Out_of_Time_(novel)

How would I know that if I haven’t seen it

Is a young girl in peril? Don't worry, nothing will happen to her, the audiences won't like it.

Have we been focused on one guy for the first 20 minutes? He definitely won't die, at least until the end. And he will achieve something great regardless; it won't all be for nothing.

Did they show a gun in some scene? That's important for later; some guy called Chekhov wants it back.

Once you see the boundaries in modern storytelling, it definitely makes things rather predictable.

If you want to see a film that breaks some of the rules, watch Brimstone.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1895315/

Edit: And considering when it was made and who made it, a happy ending was by no means guaranteed. Compare and contrast with the endings of Silent Running or American Graffiti.

Silent Running is a dystopian setting, so the ending is unsurprising, and American Graffiti is a of genre that often has bad outcomes for some characters as cautionary tales.

I put it down to a mistake that they didn't have time to fix. But then, given the ending, I realised it must have been deliberate.

Let me make it up to you. If you haven't seen it, there is a TV series based off George RR Martin's work, Game of Thrones[1].

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones

Edit: Huh! I can't add even a subtle hint of a joke, even on the weekends? :-(

MNight - 7.2M$ + 0.3M$ + 3M$

Sam Mercer - 850k$

Scott Rudin - 3M$

Aren't producers the one investing in the movie. Why are they getting paid then, How does this work?

Edit: Other expenses like travel etc are also covered by the company which adds another 1M$ approx [ex: 41.23]

Line producers are managers

Producers are ceos or presidents.

Executive producer is a credit for someone who have helped secure funding. Sometimes high-profile actors may have an executive producer credit.

Producer is like project manager for the movie.

Edit: Apparently there's a leaked budget for The Interview out there. https://www.scribd.com/document/352522776/The-Interview-Budg...

...which was actually a rather cool movie! Anything with Bruce Campbell and Patricia Clarkson piques my interest.

https://wlmager.com/why-i-havent-used-crowdfunding-to-pay-fo...

For all blog posts, use this link:

https://wlmager.com/?s=a

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/hollywood-n... (Feb 27, 2006)

And they do have budget documents for other films

Another movie like this is "Big Fish"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Village_(2004_film)#Produc...

This breakdown is about $71M, and it doesn't even account for reshoots in 2004 ~april. Which one is the more accurate? Are all publicly reported budgets this different?

Or is there something in this report that is not counted there?

They would be extraordinarily cheaper if they were working nonstop, but the asks are so intermittent they have to charge enough to maintain availability of the service. This becomes especially true and high cost-of-living areas.

It’s very similar to the discussion of self hosted vs cloud providers. Business people are willing to pay more for a predictable cost, rather than save a significant chunk of change but run the risk of having an unpredicted event that ends up with a large extra cost (such as replacing a whole rack tower

And in some large film unions, you need to pass a test just to get into the department, let alone run a generator.

You aren't paying for the machine, you're paying for a guarantee that there will be a working machine when and where you need it.

FICA - employer part of payroll taxes

FICA/Medi - employer part of Medicare insurance

FUI/SUI - federal/state unemployment insurance

>Fringes can track the value of benefits or fees that are required above and beyond the raw cost of labor or materials. Fringe benefits could include employment taxes, fees for pension & welfare programs, or daily charges for a given resource. They might also include allowances for holiday or sick leave funds. >Fringes can also be used to track things like sales tax on materials. >Many employment benefits have a limit or cap for how much total compensation an employee can make before the Fringe benefit is cut off in a given project.

via: https://mmb-docs.ep.com/Setup/fringes.html

Do anyone know if there's more of these breakdowns publicly available?