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Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ggm on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @01:19AM (#31820185)
This.Happens.To.Me.All.The.Time.

All.The.Time.

that Amazing Neutrogena conditioner, which was really good and lasted a year? Gone: if it lasts a year, its too good.

that original low-sugar chex? gone. we invented three new flavours.

that jam? gone. butter? gone. that cut of meat? gone. those pens? I mean pentel pens. How can pentel can an entire line of really good, fine writer ballpens? Gone. Sorry dude, it was you and your partner, thats IT. we checked inventory, we were shipping the last box to your category killer store two years before we canned it. It was you and some wierd hobo in Chiba were the last ones buying.

Wilkinson Sword made 30cl shaving foam cans, mostly supplied to the airline business for Business class passengers. Gone. That was the good stuff. I have to scrabble around for a Nivea gel in the same form factor, its hard to find.

My partner and I feel like the harbinger of doom for products a lot, we have dreamed of renting ourselves out to the highest bidder, to go and buy competitor product. We even called ourselves this before I read the term. We joked about being the kiss of death in shops, and then it became un-funny to the point we're scared to tell shopkeepers how much we like products sometimes.

(for the ones we want, we'd buy a LOT. That neutrogena shampoo is $40 a bottle now in the ebay hoarder bins. Neutrogena triple moisture daily deep conditioner. It used to be like $7. I have two bottles coming via a reseller, thats another year before we have to find a different conditioner.)

Grape Nuts. They're next. Trust me, Post is going to be reading the interwebs and my supplies of Grape Nuts will dry up.

Wierdly, we are high income, we are not buying dead real estate and out voting useless candidates (Green, Labor, our candidates do very well). So I think the article has over-compensated somehow.

Maybe we're up market Harbingers of Doom. Bespoke. Artisanal.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by hinkley on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:34PM (#31844917)
Shoes are this way for a lot of people, in that some of us can keep a pair of shoes long enough that the next fashion cycle has happened and you can't find anything like that again.

I got to the point where if I really liked a pair of shoes, I'd buy a second pair and throw them in the closet for nine months, and cross my fingers that I like the shoes in the second refresh more than I liked the ones in the first one.

And lets talk about ya'll motherfuckers wearing jeans that make your eyes pop out. Stores I used to shop at, some of them don't even have regular jeans anymore. I was the first person off the tight jeans bandwagon the last time that went around, and I'm not jumping on this one, even if that means I have to shop at thrift stores until you all wake up on your own, or until your doctor tells you to stop wearing those if you want kids.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by tempestn on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:28AM (#31845464)
The shoes thing is so true. Especially runners, or any kind of athletic shoe really, where they feel the need to update not just the styling but the whole construction of the shoes every year. So when you need a replacement you basically have to start from scratch every time, because there's no guarantee even buying the new shoe in the same line will be a remotely similar experience.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bostik on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:41AM (#31845859)
Clarks had an absolute killer product on their hands around 2007 or so.

Full leather sports sandals, with strong but easy-to-operate magnetic clasp, and no seams on inner surfaces. Joy to wear. Practically immune to chafing and blisters. Exceptionally good for walking (or cycling!) for even long periods of time.

Discontinued since ~2009 or so. While they've brought back some of their other pretty good sandals, the perfection reached more than 15 years ago is nowhere to be seen.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ishjoh on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:25AM (#31849536)
Do you have a picture of them?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bostik on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:51PM (#31851815)
I found an image of what looks like a modern variant of the same old model: https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/262947020842_/Clarks...

The difference between the old ones that those pictured above are that the old ones were (I think this is the right word) almost suede leather. Really easy on skin. And the sandals in the image show seams on the inside, whereas the ones I had two pairs of had their seams on the insides of the strap structure. But on the bright side, the magnetic clasp looks familiar; the new clasp is bulkier and can't be easily opened with a toe from your other foot.

And no, it's not these either: https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/255580935375_/Clarks... - but they do demonstrate how to construct sandals with the seams off of skin contact, so this might give you an idea what the things looked like.

So no, sadly I can only provide reasonable excuses.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by NullPrefix on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:32AM (#31849629)
They just don't make them like they used to anymore
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by c0nsumer on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:40AM (#31847669)
Came here to say this about cycling shoes. That is, the specific kinds with cleat mounting points at the bottom so you can clip in.

These shoes are particularly durable and will last through absurd amounts of use and sweat and rain and mud with just some sink-washing, but eventually break down and need replacing. For me it's about every 4-5 years with them getting worn most days of spring/summer/fall.

Shopping for these shoes is a huge hassle because, outside of large cities / cycling destinations, most shops only carry a single brand and model, making them pretty much mail order only. A shoe that fits fine can feel problematic after a couple hours, so it takes a bunch of trial and error (and often purchasing multiple pairs and selling the others off as barely-used) to find what works.

Last time I had to replace my shoes I went and bought the same brand, same model, same size. But they didn't fit right. Turns out the new version was 5mm narrower at the ball of the foot, which was enough to make my left foot hurt after an hour of wearing them.

So, I had to go shop around for something that fit better, try them, then be sure they worked right. I went through three pair before finding something that works, but I'm loathing when it comes time to replace them again. The coloring on them was recently changed and while I don't really like it (it's now a silver toe on black shoe, previous was all black), I guess it'll be fine so long as the fit matches?

I'm wishing I'd bought a second pair, but that too bothers me knowing they'll sit on the shelf for years taking up space before getting used. And who knows, maybe some new buckle/latch/whatever will come out in the mean time that'll make switching brand worthwhile?

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by epitrochoidal on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:56PM (#31851902)
Shopping for cycling shoes sucks. I've had the very same experiences, from the poor selection in stores to the differences between instances of the same shoe model from different years. Last time, I got a second pair and told myself it was ok because now I can rotate shoes and let them dry between daily rides like I do with helmets.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by iasay on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:38AM (#31846488)
This pisses me off. Nike I am looking at you. The Downshifter 9's were perfect. Everything else since is garbage or looks like I've got a pumpkin on an acid trip stuck to my feet.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by zelos on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:36AM (#31846473)
I've just been through this with running shoes. I found some Asics that were light, comfortable and just firm enough. Now they're gone, split into multiple different variants, none of which is what I want.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by thematrixturtle on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:48AM (#31846884)
Try Hoka. They specialize in very light shoes outside the regular spectrum: extra padded, extra firm, etc.

https://www.hoka.com/en/us/hoka-shoe-finder.html

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by brtkdotse on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:18AM (#31845738)
I have really finicky feet and cried tears of joy when I found ASICS GT-4000 only to cry tears of sorrow when I wanted to buy a new pair and found out they only made one run of them.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by moffkalast on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:37AM (#31846163)
Oh wow never thought I'd see anyone else complain about this, I'm in the same boat but with the GT-1000. I bought a pair of the new Kayanos recently and they're so bad I had to stop wearing them because they're literally destroying my feet.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by CobaltFire on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:49AM (#31849093)
They ditched the center reinforcement for a straight foam plate. The center reinforcement that was their entire reason for being popular for 25 years.

I’m very unhappy.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dspillett on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:22AM (#31846096)
I used to run in Brooks Adrenaline, then they seemed to change and not work so well for me. So I tried Asics GT 2000 (also a short shoe) and found them better until they stiffened them up in one revision so I moved to GT 1000 though I'm thinking of trying other things as recent models seem to lose all cushioning sooner. When I first got into trail running I used ASICS models but they started either upsetting my heal or falling apart in the upper, so my main trail pairs are Hoka (along with a hybrid I'm experimenting with).

The struggle is real.

While part of it might be that my body and running style have changed slightly over time, most of it is that shoes change regularly. I experienced a first recently thought: my feet actually significantly prefer the newer SpeedGoat design to the previous revision (though I fear the heal design might encourage more little stones & bits into the shoe, it is more comfortable for me). Just watch them revert those changes, so in future when I need to replace this design will be hard or impossible to find at a good price...

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by samuell on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:36AM (#31846806)
I've given up on Asics after I found Mizuno Wave Rider GTX (on a sale). Goodbye heel chafing, loosening sole, and many other problems. Haven't used a more comfortable shoe than this, and works great with excellent cushioning on both asphalt and trails. Can't believe this brand isn't more popular than it is.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by agentwiggles on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:55AM (#31849158)
I had a glorious pair of Brooks running shoes in a really cool pattern that no longer exists. I would have bought those shoes every year or two for the rest of my life if I could.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dmd on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:00AM (#31850040)
In my case the shoes I liked were completely redesigned - new materials, new style ... and not only marketed under the same name but THE SAME SKU NUMBER.

Are those a scarce resource or something?

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jtbayly on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:58AM (#31850938)
The old ones were quality and have rave reviews. Of course they put the new ones that are just cheap crap on the same SKU.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dmd on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:20PM (#31851293)
The weird thing though is it wasn't even "cheap crap". They were fine, quality shoes -- just completely different.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by rubyfan on Saturday June 25, 2022 @02:08PM (#31877383)
So true! New Balance Vibrims from ~2014 I think they were called minimus. They were super thin soles for running and were useful for lifting too (crossfit). They event came in double extra wide. Nothing like it exists on the market today. All the new models are nothing like it :-(
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by giantg2 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:29AM (#31848078)
I share the same sentiment. With all the replies you're getting, it seems like there could be a market for a solution. Not sure what that would be. Maybe a shoe finder app similar to ammoseek? Maybe a crowdsourced database of which current shoe model is rhe closest replacement to an outgoing one (like a dependency tree but for next closest shoe)?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by 83 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:05AM (#31848492)
I always wanted to create a social app for shoes and call it Sole Mate. Put in your specs and rank your own shoes and then find other people who have a similar fit to you and see what they liked.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bombcar on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:29AM (#31848817)
Sounds like it could be an amazing feature for Zappos - "you picked this shoe at this size and didn't return it, here's what others who did that also bought".
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by interestica on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:32AM (#31849628)
Ive seen Dr scholls in-store kiosks that do a mapping of feet to (i think) create custom insoles. It would be cool to have a digital file of not just a 3D impression of your feet, but also some data related to pressure distribution related to gait that could (in theory) find an optimal shoe (not objectively optimal -- but aligned with others that have similar characteristics).

And presumably as your weight changes you would need new models.

Heck I'm surprised there aren't more "smart shoes" that track weight changes and mobility.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by fivefifty on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:54AM (#31858873)
Not exactly what you are describing but there are some sites like runrepeat.com that are basically a database of running shoes that let you compare stats and check aggregated reviews on whether they fit true to size etc along with reviews for some of them. Before I found that site it's was basically a crap shoot to figure out the subtle differences between seemingly 50 different models of slightly different shoe from each manufacturer but that site really helps me narrow it down and find similar shoes to stuff I already like.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by tomc1985 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:26AM (#31850458)
I feel like that's true for most of the consumer, but if you look around the shoe company might have some classics that are seemingly eternal. For example: Adidas Gazelles vs Adidas Sambas. Chuck Taylors might be another one.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by guywhocodes on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:34AM (#31845495)
I have this issue, I doesn't help I live in a city state with basically one distributor so if they decide my shoe is not cool enough anymore I have to pay double for private import.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by macrolime on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:54AM (#31846245)
My running shoes are Nike Airs from 1999. I have a couple pairs and they've held up surprisingly well.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by CobaltFire on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:47AM (#31849065)
ASICS Gel Kayano.

They completely changed the shoe this last year.

I’ve adjusted but… it’s not the same shoe anymore.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by etrautmann on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:40PM (#31844946)
Hmm? skinny jeans started again in 2000s, had a run for ~20 years, and have rapidly decreased in popularity already. In NYC, everyone is wearing 90's styles again, including flares and parachute capris, but none of those will prevent you from having children.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by greesil on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:39AM (#31845523)
If the jeans are too tight though... I saw bell bottoms the other day, and my first thought was eff it I'm just going to start wearing a top hat it'll be cool in a few years.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mcv on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:21AM (#31848701)
Are flares finally getting back again? This time around I'm going to buy a couple of dozen of them, because it's incredibly frustrating that they keep disappearing.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by newaccount74 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:03AM (#31847408)
If you buy stuff that's in fashion, you'll always have this problem, because fashion changes so quickly.

If you just buy classic old-fashioned stuff, then you won't have this problem. I have a pair of old-fashioned leather boots, and when they were worn out after 5 years or so, I just bought exactly the same boots again. Those type of boots have been available for decades, and I really doubt they'll stop making them anytime soon.

For jeans, I've been wearing plain Levis 501 for years, and when they break I just buy another pair. They might be making slight changes, but for the most part it's the same pair of jeans and it's always available in plain styles.

Same for the plain T-shirts I wear. Sure, colors change a bit every year, but I won't have trouble finding a replacement a few years.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mcv on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:26AM (#31848771)
If you follow fashion, you don't have this problem, because the new fashionable thing will always be available.

This problem only exists for people who buck fashion trends in areas (like clothes) that are highly subject to fashion. I just want to keep buying the same type of clothes, but they keep going in and out of fashion without me having any say in it.

For jeans, for example, I would love to be able to buy black 527s. That shouldn't be too much to ask, should it? But they don't exist, because they're flares, which are currently out of fashion for men, so tough luck.

But even for the most reliably unchanging style of boots I have bad luck: army boots. Used to wear them all the time. Always great fit, comfortable under all circumstances. Bought a new pair a few years ago, and suddenly they suck. I'm forced to wear sneakers these days. I haven't really find a nice model yet.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by prepend on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:11AM (#31848569)
> If you just buy classic old-fashioned stuff, then you won't have this problem.

I used old spice anti-perspiring deodorant for like 20 years. It had never changed. It was like $1-2 and I liked it fine.

One day they started advertising and added like 20 new flavors and had super handsome spokesmodels. I couldn’t find my boring old flavor any more.

So even old and boring things can get the ax

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by tait on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:43PM (#31857563)
> "can get the ax"

We see what you did there.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by zcw100 on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:28PM (#31868160)
The thing is "classic old-fashioned" isn't something that is somehow timeless and is somehow outside of fashion trends. It's right in the name. It was fashionable but now it's old, old-fashioned. You can throw the "classic" in there all you want. The truth is all clothes come from some particular fashion. Some trends tend to change slower than others and that's what people seem to refer to when they say "classic" but it will change.

Wearing jeans at all is a trend. People have been wearing something other than jeans for far longer than they've been wearing them.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dotancohen on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:50AM (#31846901)

  > Shoes are this way for a lot of people, in that some of us can keep a
  > pair of shoes long enough that the next fashion cycle has happened and
  > you can't find anything like that again.
Timberland has terrific office-looking-from-the-top shoes, rugged gravel-traversing-and-non-slippery-from-the-bottom shoes circa 2016 when I bought a pair. What I wouldn't do to find another pair of shoes like this now.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by BoxOfRain on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:00AM (#31846977)
I went into surgery a couple of months ago and it was such a hurry my Timberlands disappeared into the hospital along with my appendix. It'd be pretty churlish to hold a grudge over this given they literally saved my life but I do miss those shoes!
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by brewdad on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:33PM (#31856377)
You should send the hospital a bill. $5000 for a pair of shoes, discounted down 95% to $250 so it seems reasonable.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by BoxOfRain on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:30AM (#31859489)
Fortunately this was in the UK, while I am privately covered because the poor old NHS is too under-resourced at the moment to be much good for treating chronic diseases that won't kill you they're still second to none for emergency surgery. Efficiently in and out, doctors couldn't have been friendlier or more competent, and it didn't cost me a penny.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dotancohen on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:52AM (#31859632)
Did you go back and thank them?

And take a gander at the shoes they're wearing? ))

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by waylandsmithers on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:33AM (#31849655)
My observation is that this is just how fashion works, especially for women. Trends come on extremely strong for basically anything related to appearance all the way down to nail color. And it's designed that way to make it obvious when someone has last year's styles and hasn't spent the money and energy on keeping up.

My experience as a man on the other hand... I bought a tuxedo recently, and the tailor said Ok here's this one, it has these weird lapels that are in right now, and it'll be great if you're going on the red carpet tomorrow but will be out of fashion pretty soon, otherwise here is the standard tux that will always look good, and come back and buy a vest or cummerbund if they ever come back in style and you'll still look great.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by oasisbob on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:41AM (#31846177)
Shoes are frustrating.

Sanuk is a west-coast US sandals brand which had been around for decades and used to make some of the best most-comfortable flip flops. These are not the sandals that fall apart in the middle of a vacation or give you blisters.

In the last few years they lost their soul and started using "yoga mat" -- an open-cell foam -- for most their sandals.

I spent over an hour on the phone trying to explain to them why sandals which get wet and STAY WET all day were such a problem. Born in surf culture, and honestly couldn't care less.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by rootusrootus on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:47AM (#31845244)
I've been buying normal fit jeans from Costco for all of $16 a pair for the last two decades. Dad jeans, I suppose. No care! Love the jeans, they're built a lot better than my last pair of brand name jeans.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jacquesm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:42AM (#31847686)
I have shoes for a lifetime bought ahead, and if I die early there will be a glut of size 42 shoes on the dutch market of this brand and type and that in turn will immediately cause that market to collapse :)
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by LorenPechtel on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:11PM (#31853018)
I know how you feel--I've got a decade's worth of shoes around here. I wear a 13EEEE running shoe (and I'm not a runner, I just need the shape), more likely than not a shoe store will have nothing that fits. Thus when I find something good I stock up.

At least for the trails I can so far reliably get shoes that fit, although even there there's none to be had in town, they have to be ordered.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by personjerry on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:50AM (#31847742)
Won't they degrade over time sitting in your closet?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jacquesm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:51AM (#31847755)
That's a good question and I should look into that but so far they come out like new and I've been doing this for more than a decade now.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by Delk on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:12AM (#31848597)
I've understood that it's better e.g. for the soles of hiking boots if the boots are used somewhat regularly. Polyurethane degrades due to hydrolysis, and apparently using the shoes regularly (and letting them air and dry properly afterwards) reduces that. The movement and pressure help reduce moisture absorbed into the sole, or something.

It probably depends on the material of the sole, though.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by scruple on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:59AM (#31849216)
I'm currently cycling through 4 pairs of Hoka Rincons. They're stored in their original boxes and placed in a stack on my garage floor. I grab the top box and replace it to the bottom when I'm done for the day. I actually think this is fairly ridiculous but what can you do...
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by yencabulator on Saturday June 25, 2022 @06:55PM (#31879410)
I've had this happen to boots that were stored for a few years. The soles split in the middle, not at a glue layer. It was like ripping foam apart.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by LanceH on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:21AM (#31849505)
Around 10 years out the glue will fail, seemingly all at once. I have boots 20+ years old which are still great (stitched and nailed), but all the old shoes just fall apart wherever they were glued (the sole usually). You can try to reglue, but it can be hard to get it smooth and walking on a lump ruins it.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jacquesm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:22PM (#31851323)
Well, so far so good, and yes, I'm still below the 10 year mark.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by siva7 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:30AM (#31848095)
tight jeans are out of fashion since at least 2 years...
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by novok on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:46PM (#31853504)
suspiciously around the time period of covid lol
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nottorp on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:25AM (#31847144)
> Shoes are this way for a lot of people, in that some of us can keep a pair of shoes long enough that the next fashion cycle has happened and you can't find anything like that again.

Try working from home. It's guaranteed that by the time you need new shoes nothing resembling your current shoes that you know and love is available any more.

Same for a lot of other clothing items that you only wear outside.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bitexploder on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:33AM (#31848887)
Leather work boots hardly change. I have some Red Wings that are close to an 80 year design or something.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nonamenoslogan on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:33PM (#31854779)
This is where I'm at after years of trying various designs. I went back to shoes I loved in the 90's; Doc Martin 1461 3-eyelet loafers. Classic design, easy to find, and I haven't worn anything since to work in more than a decade now.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nottorp on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @05:44AM (#31905864)
Those are immortal too. But I wouldn't go for a walk in that in summer. My feet would surely melt.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by thimkerbell on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:17AM (#31850315)
Can shoes or sandals be 3d printed from the original specifications?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by wrthfl on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:07AM (#31846640)
This is me with the Adidas samba from 15 years ago. I'm still scowering ebay for a pair since my current one is slowly falling apart.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by justnotworthit on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:38AM (#31849724)
Sambas are older than us and have their own wikipedia page and manufacturer page. Is it a color or variation you like?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adidas_Samba

https://www.adidas.com/us/samba

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by faebi on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:36AM (#31847645)
Adidas is especially extreme in this. I really loved the Adidas Chile, and recently the trimm trab, both gone. I will follow the upper persons comment ans byu 2-3 pieces when I like a shoe from adidas.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by kashunstva on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:51AM (#31849906)
This, and it’s not just an issue of style and superficial characteristics. With running shoes, I have a very specific preference related to the size and shape of my feet. But it’s a crapshoot whether any newly-renamed and refreshed product is in any way similar to what I bought six months ago. It’s a freaking shoe, just keep tue same name at least.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by grapeskin on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:23AM (#31846401)
I’ve been waiting 18 years for the pre-ripped jeans meme to die. It was ridiculed when I was in middle school, and now as a 30-something boomer, I’m still struggling to find decent looking and fitting jeans that don’t have some stupid tear designed into them.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by onpensionsterm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:19AM (#31846698)
You're rarely going to find good basics in cheap shops because they have to differentiate on 'design'. The same goes for t-shirts, if you want a plain t-shirt you first have to avoid anywhere with surplus graphics, pockets, buttons, whatever.

If you look further you can find high-quality denim and t-shirts in a variety of cuts. Even bespoke. But they differentiate on quality and things that matter to enthusiasts, so a brain poisoned by mass-produced fast-fashion will wince.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by faebi on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:40AM (#31847670)
How did you find these brands? I still struggle to find any of them. I'm at the point where I would even try an online tailor if there was a good one with a decent color variety.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by HeyLaughingBoy on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:59PM (#31851937)
I used to joke that we bought all our clothes at Fleet Farm and Tractor Supply, but the reality is that both places (Fleet Farm has a greater variety by far) have basic, reasonably-priced T-Shirts and jeans that stand up to hard work every day.

Take a look at Duluth Trading Co. for a similar trend, if a bit more upmarket.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by astrange on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:54AM (#31847779)
It's pretty easy to find jeans - go to Uniqlo.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ollifi on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:40AM (#31847237)
To think that somebodys underpaid job somewhere is to prerip jeans for us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWhYdXNaDL0
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ngc248 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:30AM (#31850515)
yep .... they have these ridiculous designs or shapes. Particularly the slim fit tapered jeans. searching for the classic regular fit jeans is almost impossible.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by xyzzy123 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:19AM (#31846378)
yeah you're right but there is no supply chain for civilian clothes, you're supposed to like, just put on whatever crap you find at the mall.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by abraae on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:10AM (#31845077)
Is it possible that you are "laggards" as described in the seminal book "Chrossing the Chasm"?

Laggards: Laggards are consumers who avoid change and do not adopt new technologies until all traditional alternatives are no longer available. The group is mostly concerned with reliability, low cost, and easy to use.

As I remember the premise, vendors squeeze profit out of the earlier adopters, in particular the early majority and the late majority. By the time the laggards are buying, the vendor has lost interest in the product and all of the profit has already been extracted. Therefore they don't give a shit about you and are likely to discontinue the product or provide terrible support.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by doodlebugging on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:15AM (#31849437)
This is me. A laggard. I stand now on the precipice of obsolescence, clutching my Windows phone prepared to hurl it into the gaping chasm with my Zip drives, my Handspring PDAs, my Palm devices, my old Blackberry, and dozens of other products that I grew to love during their short time on the market.

I need a Laggard t-shirt.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by moffkalast on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:40AM (#31846176)
> reliability, low cost, and easy to use

Sounds about right. These days it's all about things lasting about 2 minutes so they're cheap to manufacture, as pricey as possible to seem designer or premium, and hardly any time spent on making good UX at all.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by moomoo11 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:22AM (#31846397)
> good ux

Worse is when some UX designers decide to improve a product that works well as it is only to make it worse and convoluted. This has been my experience more often than not, and my solution is to simply stop using such products. It sucks.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by twistedpair on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:53AM (#31848360)
Change for the sake of change.

I'm often a power user. I know all the features and shortcuts of the tools I use. All too often, these get removed. I recall being on a feedback call with a UX study, and complaining about a feature I use, and many friend use, that was recently deleted from the product. "Oh, no one uses that" was the response from the UX/PM.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ls15 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:25AM (#31845454)
> that Amazing Neutrogena conditioner, which was really good and lasted a year? Gone: if it lasts a year, its too good.

Skin care companies are the worst. After ages of comparing products and finally finding the right one, they just "improve" the formulas to the point that the product just does not work anymore for us. Even the expensive ones like Vichy. I started to look more seriously into home-made cosmetics because of reproducibility, but haven't found the right formula yet unfortunately.

However, I try to use primary products (for example pure hyaluronic acid instead of a product that contains HA) as much as possible, because I feel this lowers the risk to run out of that product,

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by janekm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:37AM (#31847219)
You might find "the Ordinary" brand from Deciem appealing (or Niod for more exotic ingredients), simple products with ingredient concentration specified.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jsiaajdsdaa on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:39AM (#31845522)
Hmm, very interesting. I was briefly working on an application for a beauty care RnD lab. I was kind of surprised that most of the products (whether expensive or not) had random mixes of small amounts of exotic organic molecules, and the rest of it was just filler.

I don't remember any of the names or percentages ("they're all just rows in a database to me"), but perhaps I should have paid attention a bit more closely. I am assuming that all of these substances are available for public purchase, and the people behind the RnD lab weren't eminently qualified in their field.

Good luck to you!

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by NikolaNovak on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:48AM (#31847284)
I have always felt like a negative focus group.

While finding person or team that will consistently pick winners is basically impossible due to viral nature of big wins, I consistently pick losers . I assume it's because I consistently use criteria which differ radically from average consumer. I'll go into detailed list of pros and cons while my cousins will simply say "I like it" or "it's cool".

I thought Penny arcade had a strip or blog about it but I could never find it...

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by cryptica on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:06AM (#31846635)
Same here. I like to think that it's because I have good taste and know how to find value for money. But I guess this may be why those products ultimately fail commercially; they're providing too much value for their low price; they can't stay competitive in a monetary system characterized by infinite inflation where there is intense pressure to keep prices down and consumers are forced to buy inferior products (the ones which they can afford) due to their lagging or stagnant wages. Consumer product companies which are not willing to keep degrading the quality of their products over time will inevitably become unprofitable. Unfortunately, charging consumers more is often not an option for them because there simply aren't enough high end premium consumers to make up for their loss of regular consumers... The masses of regular consumers just don't have the money anymore. The elite keep getting richer but they are shrinking in numbers. This shrinking pool of increasingly wealthy individuals is not interested in consumer-grade high quality products; they go straight for the absolute top of the range luxury products and although they spend many times more on a per-product basis, in aggregate, they spend much less than regular consumers would have as a group. Our monetary system systematically erodes total economic value by rewarding unproductive, rent-seeking members of society at the expense of productive members.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by catchclose8919 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:06AM (#31849311)
Not sure why you're downvoted, but I'm 100% like you.

Tbh, lots of non-overpriced products that I really like tend to disappear or be hard to find, so I just learned to settle for (a) a healthy enough cheap enough alternative that is never close to being as enjoyable but "whatever, it works", or (b) an X times more expensive quasi-luxury-class equivalent that has similar qualities and is from a common enough quasi-luxury-class producer with big market presence.

But there's a second avenue of though to explore: some people care for the qualities of the product itself, and some might argue that these kinds of people (we?) are a minority, most follow trends, either marketing phabricated or grass-roots word-of-mouth trends, so if a good quality products fails to be trendy, it will have horrible economical performance at least compared to the expectations set for such a product (R&D spent and all), so has higher chances to get pulled off than a bad performing low end products, that will stick around for more, and might by sheer luck "catch a trend" at some point.

Personalized production is what will save us in the end I guess, but when it reaches mainstream will also coincide with most people becoming jobless, so I don't know how the quality of goods and life will look like overall then, can't find my crystal ball :) (I guess the utopian scenario would be that anything mass-produced even decent quality is dirt cheap by then and affordable on UBI, and all the made-to-order-by-robots will be the various degrees of luxury - white sneakers? 0.01$ same model but factory made with dotted texture on violet gradient and printed with the face of your cat? 1000.00$, and hand-customized post-factory might be the new mid-class as human labour could become cheap again?)

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by susodapop on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:14AM (#31845379)
You didn't happen to buy crypto currency a few weeks ago, did you?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by IncRnd on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:40AM (#31845529)
That was me. Sorry about that.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by moffkalast on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:41AM (#31846178)
I heard about this great opportunity called Terra Luna...
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by niemandhier on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:13AM (#31846043)
As an European 'Grape Nuts' are highly confusing to me, since the neither include grapes nor nuts.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by azalemeth on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:35AM (#31846151)
And for other non-us readers (like me), Grape-Nuts are [1]:

> [A breakfast cereal containing] whole grain wheat flour, malted barley flour, sugar (maltose), salt, dried yeast, and the following added vitamins and minerals: iron, vitamin B3, zinc oxide, vitamin B6, vitamin B1, and folic acid.

> According to the Grape-Nuts website, Grape-Nuts "actually contains neither grapes nor nuts". The name may have come from the cereal's resemblance to grape seeds, or from its nutty flavor; C. W. Post may also have intended it to refer to its content of glucose, which Post called "grape sugar."

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grape-Nuts

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mypalmike on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:16AM (#31848653)
And for anyone anywhere who has never eaten Grape Nuts, imagine kitty litter in milk.

I kid, but it's rather unlike any other breakfast cereal in its texture.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mywittyname on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:07PM (#31851092)
It's also dense. Every time I pick up a box I'm surprised by the heft. The boxes are smaller, maybe a half of the volume of a normal box of cereal, yet, they probably weight at least twice as much.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by doodlebugging on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:21PM (#31851313)
The high density means that like granola you don't need to eat much to feel full so your normal breakfast serving size can be smaller if you eat Grape Nuts since they don't dissolve in milk like sugar-based cereals.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by doodlebugging on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:19PM (#31851274)
As someone who had this in the breakfast cereal rotation as a kid I can confirm the textural differences between it and almost every other cereal. It is hard, crunchy, slightly sweet though definitely not near the level of other breakfast cereals, and has a unique flavor like wheat kernels.

It was fashionable decades ago as a healthy cereal and promoted by the famous Euell Gibbons, who would eat just about anything from nature. He is the reason that I have never shied away from sampling wild berries or leaves once I understand which plants grow in my area. There really are a lot of edible things that are overlooked since processed food is so easily obtained here in the US.

The experience of eating Grape Nuts can really be elevated by adding fresh or dried fruit and nuts like roasted pecans, roasted almonds, roasted walnuts, or similar nuts or you could substitute candied nuts coated with honey, cinnamon sugar, praline, etc.

Personally, if I ever eat Grape Nuts again they will be used as a topping on ice cream combined with dark chocolate syrup or fudge, some nuts, and a little dried fruit. This gives the ice cream an awesome texture boost and the melding of the flavors is fantastic.

I currently use home-made granola base as a breakfast and spruce it up with various things every morning so the flavor experience doesn't get old. My wife makes excellent granola and it is super simple. Oats are one of my favorite grains.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nonamenoslogan on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:45PM (#31854925)
Grape Nuts with a just a touch of honey or piloncillo and allowed to soften for 3-5 minutes before eating them is my breakfast of choice for over 20 years now.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by doodlebugging on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:57PM (#31856142)
That sounds like a good idea to let them soften. Probably enhances the experience.

I have used piloncillo in Tex-Mex cooking - moles and other spicy sauces to add a little sweetness. I never thought about using it somewhere else.

I'm down for honey on just about anything. I usually make a wash for my baby-back ribs with a honey base and some chile spices like ancho or gaujillo or chipotle. It really elevates the ribs when you brush it on when you are nearly at the end of smoking.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nescioquid on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:00AM (#31849241)
Agreed. People sometimes even serve it as a porridge by replacing the milk with hot water and a little butter or cream.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by quercusa on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:57AM (#31849199)
Sweetened kitty litter in milk!
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by Quequau on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @01:42AM (#31820308)
This happens to me a lot too.

The first one that really stuck in my mind is BetaMax and I suppose the collapse of Be, makers of the BeBox and BeOS, was the most discouraging... though I've seen a lot of other brands & companies I liked fail.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by coldtea on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:41AM (#31845856)
>The first one that really stuck in my mind is BetaMax and I suppose the collapse of Be, makers of the BeBox and BeOS,

Maybe your particular issue is with products starting with "be"

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by Gravityloss on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:58AM (#31846579)
I hope you're not planning on visiting a certain European low lying country...
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by throwawaymaths on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:16AM (#31845102)
Ok so I also picked BeOS and that was my last bad tech pick. I picked ruby a bit before it utterly exploded, then Julia in 2014, then picked elixir in 2016. I also picked zig two years ago (I'm not a promiscuous language astronaut, these are the only languages I use that I don't have to like JS or python). I knew that a car hailing app would be the next big thing in 2009, and I knew Ben awad and Simone giertz before they got huge....

I just wish I could figure out how to monetize my prescience

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by Gordonjcp on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:29AM (#31848079)
You might like Haiku, then.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by Quequau on Sunday June 26, 2022 @06:54AM (#31882741)
From time to time I do spend time with Haiku in a VM. To be honest, it's not a fantastic experience... though I want to emphasise that I don't mean this as any sort of insult or slight to the dev team of Haiku. I suppose the reality is that it's pretty amazing they've gotten as far as they have, without being able to freely use the source code from BeOS, which in my opinion is hugely disappointing because no one was willing or able to anything with it in a proprietary or commercial sense.

I view the collapse of Be as story about the many failings of the broader tech industry and the irrationality of the dot com bubble and not in any way an indication of the technical merits of the BeBox or BeOS.

Anyway, Haiku as it is today is kinda like what BeOS was back then but obviously incomplete in several really important ways. Meanwhile the world has moved on and I do everything I used to do in BeOS (and more) with Linux. Though I do wonder what BeOS might look like now had they not collapsed back then.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by twic on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:15AM (#31847069)
Since we're talking about shaving, i have wound using something a bit weird - Epaderm emollient ointment:

https://www.epaderm.com/products/epaderm-ointment/

I initially got this as an eczema ointment - it's a thick, waxy ointment intended to treat dry and irritated skin. But somehow, you can mix it with a bit of water and form a rich lather (their "cleanser" use case). It doesn't form tall, stiff piles like canned shaving foam, but it's more than adequate to lather your face with. And it works fantastically: the razor glides over my skin, and there is absolutely no irritation. In fact, my skin is in better shape after i've shaved than before.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dsr_ on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:06AM (#31847426)
I use conditioner instead of shaving cream. It works incredibly well.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by Smoosh on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:02AM (#31845656)
In our household it's Fountain Mustard Sauce. Unexpectedly, it's the ideal sauce for home-made hamburgers. Allegedly still being made but never in stock anywhere.

https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/37805/foun...

Now our burgers are flavoured with a tinge of sadness and regret.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bigDinosaur on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:46AM (#31845893)
Why don't you make it yourself? The ingredients are even given right there. It'll take some experimenting but that's fine, you might even hit on better flavours.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by thechao on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:43AM (#31848242)
What, exactly, is the ingredient "flavour"?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by LurkerAtTheGate on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:02AM (#31848466)
MSG
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bigDinosaur on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:11AM (#31848572)
Time to experiment!

If they've stopped selling a product, what choice do you have if your burgers are tasting like sadness?

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by torstenvl on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:18AM (#31820536)
Nivea sensitive shaving cream? In the squeeze tube? I bought sooooo much of the back stock when they stopped making it.

Also: 11" MacBook Air. Strawberry Shortcake SkinnyCow ice cream sandwiches. McCormick Perfect Pinch Tuscan Seasoning with Sun Dried Tomato.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bbarnett on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:43AM (#31845231)
Nivea sensitive shaving cream? In the squeeze tube?

I used to care about such things. Then I just embraced the inescapable endless change, and started using soap.

If you wet your hair first, then put on the soap, I find it not too bad.

Just embrace it. Because they just keep changing stuff.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jimnotgym on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:54AM (#31845937)
Proper shaving soap and a brush to apply it works better for me than the stuff in the tube. A refil lasts me a year
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by andreareina on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:00AM (#31846275)
Proraso is great for a no-nonsense lather.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mwint on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:42PM (#31844956)
> 11” MacBook Air

Here’s hoping for a revival of the 12” MacBook with an M series chip. That’d be so good.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nonamenoslogan on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:52PM (#31855003)
I LOVED my 11" Air, bought one in 2010, used it daily as my only laptop until 2017, gave it to my son who used it until he graduated in 2019. I replaced it with a 13" MBP which I also really like. MBP died a cat-related falling off the table tragedy recently so I pulled out the Air and was shocked--in 12ish years, my eyes no longer think its tiny screen is reasonably viewable. I wish they'd make another 11" with a retina display, but I guess Apple knows best, I replaced the 13" MBP with another 13" MBP, an M1 this time.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ohCh6zos on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:51PM (#31844994)
RIP 17" MacBook Pro too.

Actually come to think of it. If I love a product it's rare I can ever find it again.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by 9935c101ab17a66 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:10AM (#31845076)
I mean, there’s a 16in mbp now that is almost identical.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ohCh6zos on Sunday June 26, 2022 @09:17PM (#31889638)
Mine finally died so I'm going to have to get a new one, but I've always felt like the 16in have never been nearly what I wanted compared to the 17in. From the discrete GPU to the ports offered to the weight it is all just not quite what I want compared to the 17in.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by 9935c101ab17a66 on Sunday June 26, 2022 @11:40PM (#31890349)
You've always been able to get the 15" with discrete graphics. There was a brief period where the 17" could be configured with slightly more VRAM, but regardless of how much you spent, the GPUs in those computers still sucked.

The 16" was first released in 2019, and has always had both integrated and discrete GPUs. I do think the connectivity configuration is a little restrictive and one dimensional, but there's no way you could convince me to use a 17" 2011, what with it being limited to USB 2.0 and FW800 (no thunderbolt!). Thankfully this point is moot, because the 2021 16" MBP has really great connectivity.

I'm confused by your comment about weight -- you actually want a heavier computer? The 2021 16" is 30% lighter than the 17" and smaller in all three dimensions. The 2021 16" MBP GPU is light years ahead of even the previous generation 16", let alone the 17" from 2011.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by benj111 on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @03:45AM (#31821346)
Maybe it's just that you're an early adopter?

I'm pretty happy to just continue with the old.

But Heinz roast garlic deli mayo, you will be missed. And freschetta pizza, and eatemans carrot cake, and pop with sugar in, and small phones with decent battery life.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by lovich on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:44AM (#31845559)
Entemann’s stopped making their carrot cake!?!?!?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jgrahamc on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:59AM (#31846973)
Wilkinson Sword made 30cl shaving foam cans, mostly supplied to the airline business for Business class passengers.

Because I travel a lot I favour carry-on only, which means small quantities of toiletries and I wet shave with foam. At one point it was easy to buy small shaving foam cans for travel and at some point they got replaced with gel. I dislike the gel.

One day in the Coop in Davos I saw a whole section of travel stuff and there they had Nivea Shaving Foam (https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Sensitive-shaving-practical-trave...). This seems to be available in German-speaking countries. That day I bought the entire stock on the shelf (something like 10 of them).

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by tdeck on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:33PM (#31857498)
Small cans of shaving foam (we call it cream here) are still very easy to find in the US. Almost any sizable store with hygiene products is likely to have them. E.g. https://www.target.com/p/barbasol-soothing-aloe-shaving-crea...
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by woodruffw on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:32AM (#31845183)
> Grape Nuts. They're next. Trust me, Post is going to be reading the interwebs and my supplies of Grape Nuts will dry up.

Please don't jinx us like this!

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by lowercased on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:45AM (#31849048)
McDLT. Once I started liking them and buying them regularly... bam. Discontinued. Apologies to everyone for that. I try to stay away from ever liking anything 'new' because... if I like it, it'll be gone 6 months from now.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mring33621 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:20PM (#31851289)
Upvote for McDLT! Hot side hot and the cool side cool!
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by krono on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:26AM (#31846738)
Regarding your shaving foam: Look into the old-school stuff like tubes of Prorasso brand soap. Buy a good natural hair shaving brush to go with it (will last you the rest of your life) and you'll never want to go back to those cans.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by doodlebugging on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:25PM (#31851394)
When I lather up for a shave with a brush and soap I use old school Bay Rum soap.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by krono on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:57PM (#31853643)
What I like about the stuff that comes in tubes, is that it doesn't require a pre-heated lathering bowl or any pre-foaming which makes everything go real quick.

You can just squirt some straight onto the (wet) brush and get latherin' - straight onto your face.

Having to shave those last remnants of hair off my head is bad enough without it taking up half the prep time I grant myself each morning :)

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by doodlebugging on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:39PM (#31854205)
I had never thought about that. That is definitely a useful attribute that makes me consider looking for more tubular options. My soap cup can get pretty gnarly after a while and this might solve some of that.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by rg111 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:27AM (#31846114)
Unrelated: You write good. Have a blog or something like that?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by fibonachos on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:13AM (#31845090)
If you make Grape Nuts disappear my wife will be very unhappy. I may be forced to tell her it was all your fault ;)
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by raxxorraxor on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:43AM (#31846188)
Grape Nuts allegedly existed for over a hundred years. Well, perhaps it is time to short Kraft Foods.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mcv on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:18AM (#31848664)
I have never seen this as anything remotely related to me. There's a big supermarket chain (the biggest in my country) that for a long time had a tendency to cancel every product that I really liked. Or at least make it harder to buy.

Since I was young, I always loved spicy vegetable sandwich spread, but for many years I thought it had been discontinued, because this giant chain sold all the other flavours, but not my favourite. Until I discovered it at a different chain, and became aware of their betrayal. Then they introduced their home brand organic vanilla ice cream which I loved, so they quickly discontinued it. They did have same home brand organic chocolate ice cream which tasted far better than home brand ice cream has any reason to (it reminded me more of Australian), so a bit later they discontinued that too. A popular A-brand desert had a lemon-variety with a particularly addictive taste, and while they didn't discontinue it entirely, they did stop selling it online and in most of their supermarkets (only the very largest still had it).

But none of that has anything to do with me; it's just the supermarket chain that clearly has some grudge against me.

Good news: they recently started stocking my favourite sandwich spread flavour again.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bombcar on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:27AM (#31848793)
I've found that you can sometimes talk to the manager of the store and they can actually order most any product that any of their suppliers stock - or more of a certain product.

Our store would continually run out of the particular baby food we wanted and the cashier noticed me buying it all when it was in stock and asked if I wanted them to just order another box for me.

This doesn't help when the suppliers have discontinued it, and some of the larger chains are all automated, but it can be a useful trick. The computers try to notice what sells and order more (I've bought all of a certain item and noticed they stocked twice as much the next week, for example) but sometimes it can be assisted.

You can also email the company/distributor and ask for retail locations in your area, they'll usually know.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by threads2 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:34AM (#31848907)
When I worked at a grocery store my manager hated this because you'd have to order a box of like 12 spicy vegetable spread, the person would buy one, then the rest would expire on the shelf. He'd usually just lie and say he couldn't order any.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bombcar on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:48AM (#31849075)
Yeah, if you do it you need to follow through and buy the whole box (or most of it), otherwise they'll be less inclined to do it later.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by tomc1985 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:23AM (#31850406)
I don't think Post will ever get rid of Grape Nuts, it has been this eternal staple of store shelves that my parents would bring out as some sort of breakfast cereal boogieman if I misbehaved. Lord knows who's actually buying the stuff besides you, but someone is.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dmitryminkovsky on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:55AM (#31849167)
> Grape Nuts. They're next.

Dear God. Never, I hope. There was even a Grape-Nuts shortage in 2020 [0], but thankfully it's over and I think Post understands how much the cereal means to its consumers.

[0] https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/shopping/2021/03/24/gra...

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by gepiti on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @04:40AM (#31821712)
My wife is like that but not me. She claims she is cursed :-)
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by layer8 on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @06:10AM (#31822234)
That happens to me all the time as well. I seem to have a particular knack for discovering products I like only shortly before they are discontinued.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by giantg2 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:24AM (#31848028)
This is how it feels for me and athletic shoes. It's tough to find a good design and fit. Next time I find a perfect pair I think I'll buy at least 5 extra pair and just store them in the basement. I'm tired of the design being redone every year and them not working/fitting right after that.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by alar44 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:56AM (#31845292)
I wonder if it's just because you're particular. I don't give two shits about any of those products, I just grab whatever. Thinking about it, I really don't care about any brands, so it's impossible for me to pick the "wrong" product. I don't have a preference.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jjeaff on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:57AM (#31847812)
I think if the Lindy effect pans out for grape nuts, they should be around for a long time, as they are a rather old product now as far as cereals go.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by natch on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:03PM (#31851034)
Can’t get enough of this post… feel free to tell us more, I am really curious what else I should stock up on! Grape Nuts sounds like a good one.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by shreyshnaccount on Friday June 24, 2022 @07:25AM (#31860190)
Buy crypto, end this nonsense please
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by blihp on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:40AM (#31845535)
Can I trouble you for some stock picks?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by braingenious on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:27AM (#31845785)
What cut of meat got discontinued?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by gfody on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:08AM (#31845691)
you can still find mentadent (that came in the pump dispenser) for like $300 a pack.. I think it's just how the market works - if anything is so good that people will much more than market then somehow the market adapts
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by wly_cdgr on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:33AM (#31845490)
Sounds like you've accidentally stumbled into a foolproof get rich scheme
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by rusticpenn on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @12:56PM (#31826237)
Jacobs Millicano, you will be missed