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Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by hinkley on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:34PM (#31844917)
Shoes are this way for a lot of people, in that some of us can keep a pair of shoes long enough that the next fashion cycle has happened and you can't find anything like that again.

I got to the point where if I really liked a pair of shoes, I'd buy a second pair and throw them in the closet for nine months, and cross my fingers that I like the shoes in the second refresh more than I liked the ones in the first one.

And lets talk about ya'll motherfuckers wearing jeans that make your eyes pop out. Stores I used to shop at, some of them don't even have regular jeans anymore. I was the first person off the tight jeans bandwagon the last time that went around, and I'm not jumping on this one, even if that means I have to shop at thrift stores until you all wake up on your own, or until your doctor tells you to stop wearing those if you want kids.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by tempestn on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:28AM (#31845464)
The shoes thing is so true. Especially runners, or any kind of athletic shoe really, where they feel the need to update not just the styling but the whole construction of the shoes every year. So when you need a replacement you basically have to start from scratch every time, because there's no guarantee even buying the new shoe in the same line will be a remotely similar experience.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bostik on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:41AM (#31845859)
Clarks had an absolute killer product on their hands around 2007 or so.

Full leather sports sandals, with strong but easy-to-operate magnetic clasp, and no seams on inner surfaces. Joy to wear. Practically immune to chafing and blisters. Exceptionally good for walking (or cycling!) for even long periods of time.

Discontinued since ~2009 or so. While they've brought back some of their other pretty good sandals, the perfection reached more than 15 years ago is nowhere to be seen.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ishjoh on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:25AM (#31849536)
Do you have a picture of them?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bostik on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:51PM (#31851815)
I found an image of what looks like a modern variant of the same old model: https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/262947020842_/Clarks...

The difference between the old ones that those pictured above are that the old ones were (I think this is the right word) almost suede leather. Really easy on skin. And the sandals in the image show seams on the inside, whereas the ones I had two pairs of had their seams on the insides of the strap structure. But on the bright side, the magnetic clasp looks familiar; the new clasp is bulkier and can't be easily opened with a toe from your other foot.

And no, it's not these either: https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/255580935375_/Clarks... - but they do demonstrate how to construct sandals with the seams off of skin contact, so this might give you an idea what the things looked like.

So no, sadly I can only provide reasonable excuses.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by NullPrefix on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:32AM (#31849629)
They just don't make them like they used to anymore
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by c0nsumer on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:40AM (#31847669)
Came here to say this about cycling shoes. That is, the specific kinds with cleat mounting points at the bottom so you can clip in.

These shoes are particularly durable and will last through absurd amounts of use and sweat and rain and mud with just some sink-washing, but eventually break down and need replacing. For me it's about every 4-5 years with them getting worn most days of spring/summer/fall.

Shopping for these shoes is a huge hassle because, outside of large cities / cycling destinations, most shops only carry a single brand and model, making them pretty much mail order only. A shoe that fits fine can feel problematic after a couple hours, so it takes a bunch of trial and error (and often purchasing multiple pairs and selling the others off as barely-used) to find what works.

Last time I had to replace my shoes I went and bought the same brand, same model, same size. But they didn't fit right. Turns out the new version was 5mm narrower at the ball of the foot, which was enough to make my left foot hurt after an hour of wearing them.

So, I had to go shop around for something that fit better, try them, then be sure they worked right. I went through three pair before finding something that works, but I'm loathing when it comes time to replace them again. The coloring on them was recently changed and while I don't really like it (it's now a silver toe on black shoe, previous was all black), I guess it'll be fine so long as the fit matches?

I'm wishing I'd bought a second pair, but that too bothers me knowing they'll sit on the shelf for years taking up space before getting used. And who knows, maybe some new buckle/latch/whatever will come out in the mean time that'll make switching brand worthwhile?

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by epitrochoidal on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:56PM (#31851902)
Shopping for cycling shoes sucks. I've had the very same experiences, from the poor selection in stores to the differences between instances of the same shoe model from different years. Last time, I got a second pair and told myself it was ok because now I can rotate shoes and let them dry between daily rides like I do with helmets.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by iasay on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:38AM (#31846488)
This pisses me off. Nike I am looking at you. The Downshifter 9's were perfect. Everything else since is garbage or looks like I've got a pumpkin on an acid trip stuck to my feet.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by zelos on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:36AM (#31846473)
I've just been through this with running shoes. I found some Asics that were light, comfortable and just firm enough. Now they're gone, split into multiple different variants, none of which is what I want.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by thematrixturtle on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:48AM (#31846884)
Try Hoka. They specialize in very light shoes outside the regular spectrum: extra padded, extra firm, etc.

https://www.hoka.com/en/us/hoka-shoe-finder.html

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by brtkdotse on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:18AM (#31845738)
I have really finicky feet and cried tears of joy when I found ASICS GT-4000 only to cry tears of sorrow when I wanted to buy a new pair and found out they only made one run of them.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by moffkalast on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:37AM (#31846163)
Oh wow never thought I'd see anyone else complain about this, I'm in the same boat but with the GT-1000. I bought a pair of the new Kayanos recently and they're so bad I had to stop wearing them because they're literally destroying my feet.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by CobaltFire on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:49AM (#31849093)
They ditched the center reinforcement for a straight foam plate. The center reinforcement that was their entire reason for being popular for 25 years.

I’m very unhappy.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dspillett on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:22AM (#31846096)
I used to run in Brooks Adrenaline, then they seemed to change and not work so well for me. So I tried Asics GT 2000 (also a short shoe) and found them better until they stiffened them up in one revision so I moved to GT 1000 though I'm thinking of trying other things as recent models seem to lose all cushioning sooner. When I first got into trail running I used ASICS models but they started either upsetting my heal or falling apart in the upper, so my main trail pairs are Hoka (along with a hybrid I'm experimenting with).

The struggle is real.

While part of it might be that my body and running style have changed slightly over time, most of it is that shoes change regularly. I experienced a first recently thought: my feet actually significantly prefer the newer SpeedGoat design to the previous revision (though I fear the heal design might encourage more little stones & bits into the shoe, it is more comfortable for me). Just watch them revert those changes, so in future when I need to replace this design will be hard or impossible to find at a good price...

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by samuell on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:36AM (#31846806)
I've given up on Asics after I found Mizuno Wave Rider GTX (on a sale). Goodbye heel chafing, loosening sole, and many other problems. Haven't used a more comfortable shoe than this, and works great with excellent cushioning on both asphalt and trails. Can't believe this brand isn't more popular than it is.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by agentwiggles on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:55AM (#31849158)
I had a glorious pair of Brooks running shoes in a really cool pattern that no longer exists. I would have bought those shoes every year or two for the rest of my life if I could.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dmd on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:00AM (#31850040)
In my case the shoes I liked were completely redesigned - new materials, new style ... and not only marketed under the same name but THE SAME SKU NUMBER.

Are those a scarce resource or something?

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jtbayly on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:58AM (#31850938)
The old ones were quality and have rave reviews. Of course they put the new ones that are just cheap crap on the same SKU.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dmd on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:20PM (#31851293)
The weird thing though is it wasn't even "cheap crap". They were fine, quality shoes -- just completely different.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by rubyfan on Saturday June 25, 2022 @02:08PM (#31877383)
So true! New Balance Vibrims from ~2014 I think they were called minimus. They were super thin soles for running and were useful for lifting too (crossfit). They event came in double extra wide. Nothing like it exists on the market today. All the new models are nothing like it :-(
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by giantg2 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:29AM (#31848078)
I share the same sentiment. With all the replies you're getting, it seems like there could be a market for a solution. Not sure what that would be. Maybe a shoe finder app similar to ammoseek? Maybe a crowdsourced database of which current shoe model is rhe closest replacement to an outgoing one (like a dependency tree but for next closest shoe)?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by 83 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:05AM (#31848492)
I always wanted to create a social app for shoes and call it Sole Mate. Put in your specs and rank your own shoes and then find other people who have a similar fit to you and see what they liked.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bombcar on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:29AM (#31848817)
Sounds like it could be an amazing feature for Zappos - "you picked this shoe at this size and didn't return it, here's what others who did that also bought".
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by interestica on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:32AM (#31849628)
Ive seen Dr scholls in-store kiosks that do a mapping of feet to (i think) create custom insoles. It would be cool to have a digital file of not just a 3D impression of your feet, but also some data related to pressure distribution related to gait that could (in theory) find an optimal shoe (not objectively optimal -- but aligned with others that have similar characteristics).

And presumably as your weight changes you would need new models.

Heck I'm surprised there aren't more "smart shoes" that track weight changes and mobility.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by fivefifty on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:54AM (#31858873)
Not exactly what you are describing but there are some sites like runrepeat.com that are basically a database of running shoes that let you compare stats and check aggregated reviews on whether they fit true to size etc along with reviews for some of them. Before I found that site it's was basically a crap shoot to figure out the subtle differences between seemingly 50 different models of slightly different shoe from each manufacturer but that site really helps me narrow it down and find similar shoes to stuff I already like.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by tomc1985 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:26AM (#31850458)
I feel like that's true for most of the consumer, but if you look around the shoe company might have some classics that are seemingly eternal. For example: Adidas Gazelles vs Adidas Sambas. Chuck Taylors might be another one.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by guywhocodes on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:34AM (#31845495)
I have this issue, I doesn't help I live in a city state with basically one distributor so if they decide my shoe is not cool enough anymore I have to pay double for private import.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by macrolime on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:54AM (#31846245)
My running shoes are Nike Airs from 1999. I have a couple pairs and they've held up surprisingly well.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by CobaltFire on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:47AM (#31849065)
ASICS Gel Kayano.

They completely changed the shoe this last year.

I’ve adjusted but… it’s not the same shoe anymore.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by etrautmann on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:40PM (#31844946)
Hmm? skinny jeans started again in 2000s, had a run for ~20 years, and have rapidly decreased in popularity already. In NYC, everyone is wearing 90's styles again, including flares and parachute capris, but none of those will prevent you from having children.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by greesil on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:39AM (#31845523)
If the jeans are too tight though... I saw bell bottoms the other day, and my first thought was eff it I'm just going to start wearing a top hat it'll be cool in a few years.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mcv on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:21AM (#31848701)
Are flares finally getting back again? This time around I'm going to buy a couple of dozen of them, because it's incredibly frustrating that they keep disappearing.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by newaccount74 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:03AM (#31847408)
If you buy stuff that's in fashion, you'll always have this problem, because fashion changes so quickly.

If you just buy classic old-fashioned stuff, then you won't have this problem. I have a pair of old-fashioned leather boots, and when they were worn out after 5 years or so, I just bought exactly the same boots again. Those type of boots have been available for decades, and I really doubt they'll stop making them anytime soon.

For jeans, I've been wearing plain Levis 501 for years, and when they break I just buy another pair. They might be making slight changes, but for the most part it's the same pair of jeans and it's always available in plain styles.

Same for the plain T-shirts I wear. Sure, colors change a bit every year, but I won't have trouble finding a replacement a few years.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by mcv on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:26AM (#31848771)
If you follow fashion, you don't have this problem, because the new fashionable thing will always be available.

This problem only exists for people who buck fashion trends in areas (like clothes) that are highly subject to fashion. I just want to keep buying the same type of clothes, but they keep going in and out of fashion without me having any say in it.

For jeans, for example, I would love to be able to buy black 527s. That shouldn't be too much to ask, should it? But they don't exist, because they're flares, which are currently out of fashion for men, so tough luck.

But even for the most reliably unchanging style of boots I have bad luck: army boots. Used to wear them all the time. Always great fit, comfortable under all circumstances. Bought a new pair a few years ago, and suddenly they suck. I'm forced to wear sneakers these days. I haven't really find a nice model yet.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by prepend on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:11AM (#31848569)
> If you just buy classic old-fashioned stuff, then you won't have this problem.

I used old spice anti-perspiring deodorant for like 20 years. It had never changed. It was like $1-2 and I liked it fine.

One day they started advertising and added like 20 new flavors and had super handsome spokesmodels. I couldn’t find my boring old flavor any more.

So even old and boring things can get the ax

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by tait on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:43PM (#31857563)
> "can get the ax"

We see what you did there.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by zcw100 on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:28PM (#31868160)
The thing is "classic old-fashioned" isn't something that is somehow timeless and is somehow outside of fashion trends. It's right in the name. It was fashionable but now it's old, old-fashioned. You can throw the "classic" in there all you want. The truth is all clothes come from some particular fashion. Some trends tend to change slower than others and that's what people seem to refer to when they say "classic" but it will change.

Wearing jeans at all is a trend. People have been wearing something other than jeans for far longer than they've been wearing them.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dotancohen on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:50AM (#31846901)

  > Shoes are this way for a lot of people, in that some of us can keep a
  > pair of shoes long enough that the next fashion cycle has happened and
  > you can't find anything like that again.
Timberland has terrific office-looking-from-the-top shoes, rugged gravel-traversing-and-non-slippery-from-the-bottom shoes circa 2016 when I bought a pair. What I wouldn't do to find another pair of shoes like this now.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by BoxOfRain on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:00AM (#31846977)
I went into surgery a couple of months ago and it was such a hurry my Timberlands disappeared into the hospital along with my appendix. It'd be pretty churlish to hold a grudge over this given they literally saved my life but I do miss those shoes!
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by brewdad on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:33PM (#31856377)
You should send the hospital a bill. $5000 for a pair of shoes, discounted down 95% to $250 so it seems reasonable.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by BoxOfRain on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:30AM (#31859489)
Fortunately this was in the UK, while I am privately covered because the poor old NHS is too under-resourced at the moment to be much good for treating chronic diseases that won't kill you they're still second to none for emergency surgery. Efficiently in and out, doctors couldn't have been friendlier or more competent, and it didn't cost me a penny.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by dotancohen on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:52AM (#31859632)
Did you go back and thank them?

And take a gander at the shoes they're wearing? ))

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by waylandsmithers on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:33AM (#31849655)
My observation is that this is just how fashion works, especially for women. Trends come on extremely strong for basically anything related to appearance all the way down to nail color. And it's designed that way to make it obvious when someone has last year's styles and hasn't spent the money and energy on keeping up.

My experience as a man on the other hand... I bought a tuxedo recently, and the tailor said Ok here's this one, it has these weird lapels that are in right now, and it'll be great if you're going on the red carpet tomorrow but will be out of fashion pretty soon, otherwise here is the standard tux that will always look good, and come back and buy a vest or cummerbund if they ever come back in style and you'll still look great.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by oasisbob on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:41AM (#31846177)
Shoes are frustrating.

Sanuk is a west-coast US sandals brand which had been around for decades and used to make some of the best most-comfortable flip flops. These are not the sandals that fall apart in the middle of a vacation or give you blisters.

In the last few years they lost their soul and started using "yoga mat" -- an open-cell foam -- for most their sandals.

I spent over an hour on the phone trying to explain to them why sandals which get wet and STAY WET all day were such a problem. Born in surf culture, and honestly couldn't care less.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by rootusrootus on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:47AM (#31845244)
I've been buying normal fit jeans from Costco for all of $16 a pair for the last two decades. Dad jeans, I suppose. No care! Love the jeans, they're built a lot better than my last pair of brand name jeans.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jacquesm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:42AM (#31847686)
I have shoes for a lifetime bought ahead, and if I die early there will be a glut of size 42 shoes on the dutch market of this brand and type and that in turn will immediately cause that market to collapse :)
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by LorenPechtel on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:11PM (#31853018)
I know how you feel--I've got a decade's worth of shoes around here. I wear a 13EEEE running shoe (and I'm not a runner, I just need the shape), more likely than not a shoe store will have nothing that fits. Thus when I find something good I stock up.

At least for the trails I can so far reliably get shoes that fit, although even there there's none to be had in town, they have to be ordered.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by personjerry on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:50AM (#31847742)
Won't they degrade over time sitting in your closet?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jacquesm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:51AM (#31847755)
That's a good question and I should look into that but so far they come out like new and I've been doing this for more than a decade now.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by Delk on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:12AM (#31848597)
I've understood that it's better e.g. for the soles of hiking boots if the boots are used somewhat regularly. Polyurethane degrades due to hydrolysis, and apparently using the shoes regularly (and letting them air and dry properly afterwards) reduces that. The movement and pressure help reduce moisture absorbed into the sole, or something.

It probably depends on the material of the sole, though.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by scruple on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:59AM (#31849216)
I'm currently cycling through 4 pairs of Hoka Rincons. They're stored in their original boxes and placed in a stack on my garage floor. I grab the top box and replace it to the bottom when I'm done for the day. I actually think this is fairly ridiculous but what can you do...
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by yencabulator on Saturday June 25, 2022 @06:55PM (#31879410)
I've had this happen to boots that were stored for a few years. The soles split in the middle, not at a glue layer. It was like ripping foam apart.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by LanceH on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:21AM (#31849505)
Around 10 years out the glue will fail, seemingly all at once. I have boots 20+ years old which are still great (stitched and nailed), but all the old shoes just fall apart wherever they were glued (the sole usually). You can try to reglue, but it can be hard to get it smooth and walking on a lump ruins it.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by jacquesm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:22PM (#31851323)
Well, so far so good, and yes, I'm still below the 10 year mark.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by siva7 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:30AM (#31848095)
tight jeans are out of fashion since at least 2 years...
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by novok on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:46PM (#31853504)
suspiciously around the time period of covid lol
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nottorp on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:25AM (#31847144)
> Shoes are this way for a lot of people, in that some of us can keep a pair of shoes long enough that the next fashion cycle has happened and you can't find anything like that again.

Try working from home. It's guaranteed that by the time you need new shoes nothing resembling your current shoes that you know and love is available any more.

Same for a lot of other clothing items that you only wear outside.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by bitexploder on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:33AM (#31848887)
Leather work boots hardly change. I have some Red Wings that are close to an 80 year design or something.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nonamenoslogan on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:33PM (#31854779)
This is where I'm at after years of trying various designs. I went back to shoes I loved in the 90's; Doc Martin 1461 3-eyelet loafers. Classic design, easy to find, and I haven't worn anything since to work in more than a decade now.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by nottorp on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @05:44AM (#31905864)
Those are immortal too. But I wouldn't go for a walk in that in summer. My feet would surely melt.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by thimkerbell on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:17AM (#31850315)
Can shoes or sandals be 3d printed from the original specifications?
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by wrthfl on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:07AM (#31846640)
This is me with the Adidas samba from 15 years ago. I'm still scowering ebay for a pair since my current one is slowly falling apart.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by justnotworthit on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:38AM (#31849724)
Sambas are older than us and have their own wikipedia page and manufacturer page. Is it a color or variation you like?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adidas_Samba

https://www.adidas.com/us/samba

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by faebi on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:36AM (#31847645)
Adidas is especially extreme in this. I really loved the Adidas Chile, and recently the trimm trab, both gone. I will follow the upper persons comment ans byu 2-3 pieces when I like a shoe from adidas.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by kashunstva on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:51AM (#31849906)
This, and it’s not just an issue of style and superficial characteristics. With running shoes, I have a very specific preference related to the size and shape of my feet. But it’s a crapshoot whether any newly-renamed and refreshed product is in any way similar to what I bought six months ago. It’s a freaking shoe, just keep tue same name at least.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by grapeskin on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:23AM (#31846401)
I’ve been waiting 18 years for the pre-ripped jeans meme to die. It was ridiculed when I was in middle school, and now as a 30-something boomer, I’m still struggling to find decent looking and fitting jeans that don’t have some stupid tear designed into them.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by onpensionsterm on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:19AM (#31846698)
You're rarely going to find good basics in cheap shops because they have to differentiate on 'design'. The same goes for t-shirts, if you want a plain t-shirt you first have to avoid anywhere with surplus graphics, pockets, buttons, whatever.

If you look further you can find high-quality denim and t-shirts in a variety of cuts. Even bespoke. But they differentiate on quality and things that matter to enthusiasts, so a brain poisoned by mass-produced fast-fashion will wince.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by faebi on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:40AM (#31847670)
How did you find these brands? I still struggle to find any of them. I'm at the point where I would even try an online tailor if there was a good one with a decent color variety.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by HeyLaughingBoy on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:59PM (#31851937)
I used to joke that we bought all our clothes at Fleet Farm and Tractor Supply, but the reality is that both places (Fleet Farm has a greater variety by far) have basic, reasonably-priced T-Shirts and jeans that stand up to hard work every day.

Take a look at Duluth Trading Co. for a similar trend, if a bit more upmarket.

Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by astrange on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:54AM (#31847779)
It's pretty easy to find jeans - go to Uniqlo.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ollifi on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:40AM (#31847237)
To think that somebodys underpaid job somewhere is to prerip jeans for us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWhYdXNaDL0
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by ngc248 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:30AM (#31850515)
yep .... they have these ridiculous designs or shapes. Particularly the slim fit tapered jeans. searching for the classic regular fit jeans is almost impossible.
Re:“Harbinger households” consistently buy products that get... by xyzzy123 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:19AM (#31846378)
yeah you're right but there is no supply chain for civilian clothes, you're supposed to like, just put on whatever crap you find at the mall.