[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series)

Have you not been paying attention to this administration?

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/11/its-way-too-easy-to-get-...

I haven’t seen any follow-up reporting, but it looks like the process now requires some semblance of identity verification:

https://get.gov/domains/before/

The are motives for lying on this - for a start, if a president knows definitively they're going to say it, it's a free 81% return. Secondly, it's a pretty big dead cat to throw on the table to distract from any scandal and/or to keep themselves in the news cycle on a different topic.

It doesn't mean there's a 16% chance.

It's probably more attractive to gamblers when presented like this.

https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens...

EDIT: oh it's play money, good website

I love the idea of polybet but would never invest into it. Gonna check this out

It can do it all!

A possible collaboration

You mean that 2023 "reveal"?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37494876

Man, they really don't think much of their voter base or ordinary people for that matter.

We have discovered aliens!

Still too expensive but not exactly going to bankrupt me.

Actually, I noticed one near there yesterday on PCH (forget which station) was $6.89999 for the good stuff.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/menlo-park-gas-prices-...

I wonder if Hitler ever said that in the 30s..

> Godwin's law can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, a diversion, or even censorship, when miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole even when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Let me guess, similarly you apply "conspiracy theory" to anything you want to kneecap, is that right?

Very mature indeed.

And I think considering what this administration has said is important. Do you think otherwise?

There is this promotional campaign on-going, it could be related

https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome

It seems to be an incentive for voluntarily departure

1. I take self-deportation offer. At Christmas it was $3000 a person, but usually $1000, a commercial plane ticket anywhere, and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method. I can say goodbye to people I can sell my things. I can do this on my own timeline within reason.

2. I’ve risk it and trying to invade ice for the next three years minimum. If Vance wins, I need to make it to at least 2032 without showing up on any radar. I’m careful and looking over my shoulder constantly and work is a never ending dread.

3. I am caught by ICE. I have absolutely no claim to stay in the US. I can sit in a detention center while an NGO funded lawyer tells me that I do. And in high likelihood, I am sent back with no money on a cargo jet and I’m banned from the United States forever. This happens at any moment.

Practically speaking, I just cannot picture taking option two which could be three at any time. The fact is, I would know without a doubt, unfair or not that I am here legally, that my state would apply in any European country as well. I cannot fathom how option one is not the best option. Perhaps I’m too risk adverse.

Pretty much you go back to your country of origin

Typically people take on the immense risk and challenge of leaving their country of origin to come here because their country of origin has really bad problems

Those problems likely still exist or have gotten worse over the last several years due to (if nothing else) COVID further separating the US economy from the rest of the world's

Is this not just? Is this not what every other country in the world would do? Is there a European country you can stay in illegally? Do any of them run remigration programs with cash and free flights to where you came from?

I said that your logic tree elides the fact that they would be going back to a place that they already accepted an immense amount of risk and effort to leave.

In other words: for many people, the US + ICE risk (relatively low risk of catastrophic outcome) is still far better than their home country (high risk of pretty bad outcome)

Most passports grant at least a medium term admission to dozens of countries, and long term to a few.

Also, I would be hesitant to say that immigrants being targeted by ICE are "illegal" as we saw some be detained/deported after speaking out against the war in Gaza[2]. Also, a lot claim asylum at the border which is a legal process.

> and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method

That process in reality takes a really long time due to the federal immigration system being strained. The 2024 border bill tried to address this by adding more immigration judges and asylum officers but Trump told Republicans to kill it because it'd make Biden look good. So far all we got was a massive DHS funding increase that allowed Kristi Noem to funnel $100M+ to herself and her friends and kill two American citizens with ICE.

0: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/us/politics/farm-labor-tr...

1: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5601588-trump-h1...

2: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2026/03/17/immigrati...

Oh ya, I remember that. The Democrat bill with a few Republicans that conservatives call RINOs on board. Collins, McConnell, Murkowski, etc.

Again, objectively, it does look bad that bill was to secure the border but Trump Admin seems to have done that without a bill.

This is a matter of simply breaking the law.

The border is secured in the sense that Trump has made the US such an unappealing destination that fewer people want to risk it. It's a valid strategy (if awful) except in that doing so essentially requires the government to violate laws.

Turns out it's easy to "solve problems" when you aren't constrained by laws. Not an insight whatsoever.

Specific laws being violated:

* Due Process protections

* Equal Protection

* Asylum laws

Actually towards the end of the Biden administration, they engaged in similar law-breaking because immigration was obviously going to be such a political liability going into the election. Those moves have since been found to be illegal: https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/district-court-strikes-d...

Most of the Trump admin's moves to make the US so unappealing that no one wants to risk coming here will also ultimately be found to be illegal.

But let’s say that’s the case… doesn’t that just prove my point that if you are here illegally, that it make no sense to stay?

You: doesn’t that just prove my point that if you are here __illegally__

They're talking about the now well-established fact that ICE is pursuing people who have legal status in this country and using all sorts of tricks (both legal and illegal) to prevent them from exercising their rights.

Here's one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_R%C3%BCmeysa_%C3%...

Without muddying, the discussion is if you are here illegally, it seems better to self-deport and control your own destiny than to risk ICE for the next 3-11+ years.

The definition of being "illegal" in the eyes of the law is not actually really well defined at all. It is pretty much a vibe check

Entered via a port of entry and visa overstay? "illegal"

Entered via a port of entry and visa overstay, but now you have legal status? "Maybe you are illegal"

Entered not via a port of entry? "You are illegal"

Entered via a port of entry with legal status? "Legal but you might get detained for several days"

Entered via a port of entry with legal status but you attended a protest? "Legal but the government doesn't like you so expect to be detained"

Born and raised in the United States but don't carry your passport? "Legal but expected to be detained"

Entered via a port of entry with legal status BUT you have a traffic ticket and a bench warrant out of state "Illegal and criminal! Expect to be deported"

Might I add that only one of these above conditions is valid for deportation and a ban and every other is a violation of your rights

My question after actually reading it though is simple - how does it prevent fraud? Like you just need GPS and a selfie to verify. No bank account required! Since the nominal case is undocumented you don’t have ground truth to check against. What is stopping someone from using an eSIM, OpenClaw, and an emulator from self-deporting thousands of virtual persona at $2600 profit

It just seems poorly considered. I don’t know if they really thought this through.

We can be sure that the weakness in this scheme is being exploited, since it was designed to maximise metrics, not results.

I wonder if anyone did read through the accordian FAQs, especially this one:

> How will exit bonuses be issued to participants?

DHS is working with Project Homecoming partners on the disbursement of exit bonuses. Illegal aliens will receive the exit bonuses after they land in the country of arrival.

The delivery method will vary based on country-specific guidelines and regulations. However, no bank account is necessary for illegal aliens to receive their exit bonus. In most instances, illegal aliens will collect their exit bonus in their home country.

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Yeah, like _that_ is going to happen...

https://youtu.be/nCP3LZoxABs?si=2qspQFC-Imfwy2Ua

Cloudflare has proudly protected Trump campaign websites for the last decade https://www.businessinsider.com/cloudflare-ceo-anonymous-ddo...

They'd be stupid to use anybody else.

there is so much you can legitimately be upset with cloudflare for, that i do not understand the need to exaggerate

At the very least they can request just about anything from Cloudflare and they will comply, although is almost guaranteed that their is Fedramps for Cloudflare data.

Edward Snowden leaks proved even the "tough guys" like Apple were happily sending away data without warrants, automatically to NSA/FBI/CIA, etc. You seriously don't think Cloudflare doesn't?

    Official websites use .gov
    A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States.

"Welcome to Aliens.gov -- a friendly guide and reminder to leave."

...

"Ya fired."

I remember reading shady sites in 00s, where the other side claimed that govts around the world will get along on this idea and with help of elaborated holograms hoax will tell populations that aliens are here among us/are about to invade.

Here, in the mid-20s it's much cheaper to do that with help of AI. /s

Anyway, guess it's "some kind of" distraction, again? /s

If they ask you to prove you’re not a robot, then we get into discussing sentient robots from other worlds.

What we’d be really interested in proving if we found proof of other intelligent life is personhood.

coming from a different country, race, or group