I guess they have some sensitive data on our emergency services organizations and their headquarters addresses and accounts payable people, maybe PII on signatories (officers, board members & “important people”) and whatnot.

Anyone know if it would be worse?

they have a tremendous catalog[0].

spend time in a hospital, dental office, rehab, etc and you'll see the logo plastered across everything.

[0]: https://www.stryker.com/us/en/portfolios/medical-surgical-eq...

heart rate monitors that go down and no one can get support for, cannot get replacement CAT scan equipment, etc.

People's AICDs aren't going to start exploding, but I'm pretty confident this will hamper care for many patients.

If a wiper actually hit internal systems, the bigger concern isn’t consumer data but disruption to manufacturing, logistics, and hospital support. That kind of outage could ripple through a lot of hospitals pretty quickly.

If Stryker stays down, supplies of some things will run out soon and many people will find themselves without medical procedures available.

So the options here are MDM or no MDM and that’s a hard choice. No MDM means that you have to trust all people to get things as basic as FDE or a sane password policy right. No option to wipe or lock lost devices. No option to unlock devices where people forgot their password. Using an MDM means having a privileged attack vector into all machines.

Do not use global admin or admin account as daily driver for one. Dont save it in browser etc either.

Limit roles, even within the application, here Intune.

Office 365 also has conditional access and many policy leavers to tweak, many cases of people locking themselves OUT of 365. So the gates work but you need to configure them.

"Break glass" global admin accounts now also require MFA. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authenticat...

For Stryker specifically? We don't and probably won't know details.

For companies in general? Background checks, security clearance etc are done if the company determines this necessary and are willing to pay for the process and higher salary.

Gsuite + Slack I guess. lmao. As if that is better.

Looking forward to your reply.

A lot of corporate stuff seems to be much worse than even a random vibe coded web app. I have to book holiday through something called "HR Connect", watching pages load laboriously and redirect every login through several very long URLs. Slowly.

Yes, many corporate websites are bad. Like ERP or HR systems. None of that has to do with device management, RMMs/MDMs or Intune.

Previous place had a corporate controlled windows laptop that made a very poor thin client for accessing dev machines. One before that had a somewhat centrally managed macbook that made a very poor thin client for accessing dev machines.

You don't have to soul bond to Microsoft to get things done.

And no, there are plenty systems you don't want to have root ssh on.

Mainframes require 4-eyes administration to do more nuanced "root" things than picking up a sledgehammer and physically smashing drives.

- Ensure the Linux machines are up-to-date and users are not just indefinitely postponing OS updates?

- Same as above but with programs/software

- How do you ensure correct settings configuration in terms of security? Say default browser, extensions, program access etc?

- Re-image or reinstall the OS when there are issues or PC handover to another employee? Manually with a USB stick?

This kind of control exists and is needed for Linux and MacOS too. RMM is not a Windows only thing...

The critics here see Intune but what if they used another RMM and they compromised another cloud RMM account? Same issue.

Are you new to Windows sysadmin stuff? Or you have 0 idea whatsoever and you are just vibein?

How else are we supposed to deploy/push programs and settings and in the past over SCCM, an entire OS, if the machines don't have it installed?

This is also how your precious Linux tool Ansible and Puppet works btw.

And MDMs like Mosyle for OSX. They need it installed. Because IT need to keep check on updates and settings and programs. But I suspect you are a rockstar dev and dont need no IT.

Go on, I'll wait.

mmm yeaaah just downvote me instead. Hide the wrongthink. You people need to not be so sure of yourselves.

In that world, there is no central IT team pushing changes to machines and arguing with developers about whether they really need to be able to run a debugger.

I don't know how to keep windows machines alive. It's probably harder.

- Ensure the machines are up-to-date and users are not just indefinitely postponing OS updates?

- Same as above but with programs/software

- How do you ensure correct settings configuration in terms of security? Say default browser, extensions, program access etc?

- Re-image or reinstall the OS when there are issues or PC handover to another employee? Manually with a USB stick?

This kind of control exists and is needed for Linux and MacOS too. RMM is not a Windows only thing...

The critics here see Intune but what if they used another RMM and they compromised another cloud RMM account? Same issue.

Also, here there is no "arguing". They order the software from our portal and it gets pushed into Company Portal via Intune...

Write down a list you say... idk what to say. You have only worked for small startups I gather? Nothing wrong with that but please recognize that these types of limits and programs are not deployed for fun or to ruin your day.

At a bare minimum, your backup systems should have a completely disjoint set of credentials to your main systems, stored and controlled differently, ideally by a seperate team, if you have the resources.

(And the arguing becomes a problem when IT ceases to consider their job to be solving problems for users within some constraints, and just starts to consider their job to be enforcing those constraints. This also mixes badly with incompetence, which tends to turn everything into a tedious tick-box exercise that neither improves security nor solves user's problems. It's not a good time to have an IT department that can't resist any new security checkbox a vendor offers but can't figure out how to work any of their fancy tools to make life even the slightest bit smoother for their users)

Companies use M365 or Gsuite. Go.

I can type words too but they dont mean anything.

"Make it good zero trust wowo"

(There's also a certain irony about IT complaining that a change to improve security would mean they can't do their job as easily)

On top of this you want companies and governments to make their own tools?

You have a vision... of something zero trust. Now make it and implement it. Oh, not so easy?

S3 buckets used to be open by default. Office 365 had MFA as optional for a looooong time. So things are improving.

That works for a 5 person company but not a 1000 person company. Or a 10 person company with 1000 machines.

Because in the end, it’s not IT on the line for their odious policies causing late delivery, it was us.

Also, if the company is certified in some way there are audits for these things, you understand? Such as updates, backups, security, PAM, antivirus etc :)

Subvert these controls intentionally, especially security ones = bye bye. Logs don't lie. We see you.

And to be clear, SCCM and Intune is a gun.

MS will not stop you from blowing your foot off with the gun.

Remember https://www.itprotoday.com/windows-7/aggressive-configmgr-ba... ?

>During TechEd 2014, Emory University's IT department prepared and deployed Windows 7 upgrades to the campuses computers. If you've worked with ConfigMgr at all, you know that there are checks-and-balances that can be employed to ensure that only specifically targeted systems will receive an OS upgrade. In Emory University's case, the check-and-balance method failed and instead of delivering the upgrade to applicable computers, delivered Windows 7 to ALL computers including laptops, desktops, and even servers.

Are you referring to a paradigm where people make their systems less secure in the effort to make them more secure?

This kind of aggression, however, does seem to make their value as a deterrent clear.

Observe how nobody is fucking with North Korea like they did with Iraq or Venezuela.

Also in a "if I'm going down, everyone else is going down with me", which is Ian's strategy in this war (for good reasons). If the IRGC had nukes, and was severely threatened (like, killing the Supreme Leader and threatening to kill all of the replacements until they bend to the US/Israel will), they might have decided to go out "with style".

To be clear I don't like the idea of MAD one bit. But this is indeed how it's meant to work.

Unlike NK, Iran has a leadership that declared destroying some countries their raison d'etre.

They want Islam to dominate the world, that can't happen if there isn't a world left to dominate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker

Iran warns U.S. tech firms could become targets as war expands

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47341007

https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/authorities-warn-of-p...

Fox News drone expert:

https://nypost.com/2026/03/11/us-news/iran-could-use-drones-...

surely a New York Post article quoting a Fox News "expert" will be factual, unbiased and not at all an attempt to pour more oil into the fire and manufacture consent to bomb a couple more girl's schools.

BBC: Mystery New Jersey drones not from Iranian 'mothership' - Pentagon

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crrwz91wqd9o

It's certainly a theory / narrative that keeps appearing in the media.

Maybe the US reacts differently, but in Europe most military bases have been scouted by Russian drones, and afaik none were shot down.

Buncha drones in shipping containers that popped open once deep in-country

I don't even think they'd launch drones to DC either, they seem to be all in on attacking oil infrastructure as well as us bases & defense systems in the Middle East, rather than America.

Because they allegedly have a ship already in the Pacific loaded with drones.

DC and NY are way too far from Iran to launch any kind of attack; the only attack they can possibly do is from a ship, and ships can be anyplace where there's deep enough water.

That does not make any sense to me. Does Iran have a bunch of ships in the Pacific? Why? How would they even got close enough to the US coast without being noticed at this point?

I'm not saying it's not true, I just don't understand.

However if they were going/able to do it, they probably wouldn't warn everyone and ruin the element of surprise, they would just do it.

Seems like a really dumb idea right now, unless maybe as a last resort if Trump decides to drop tactical nukes or something

It's not in the strategic interest of Iran to do that, and they have been very strategic and rational. It's the Americans who have abandoned rationality. The Iranian goal is very clear: they don't want to sign an agreement and be attacked again in three months or one year.

In order to get that, they want a new security framework in its part of the world. They want Israel to suffer so its population think two times before doing this again. And they want to create enough economic pain to punish the current USA administration, again to teach a lesson.

Go beyond CNN or Fox News, listen to what the Iranians are saying (1).

1- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNZ_nta8NRM

Yes, of course they want to continue to do what they've been doing and not be attacked for that. Yet it is just not possible. Iran's current regime overall main goal is the spread of Islamic Revolution. Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis - these are typical metastasis of that spread. Terrorist acts, highly visible ones, is one of the effective tools of such a spread, and that way the terrorist acts are rational in the minds of Iran's regime and their above mentioned metastatic followers. There is no security framework possible which would still allow such a spread.

Anyway, it's kind of funny that the USA have military posts more than 7000 miles away from its borders, but the danger of 'expansionism' is from Iran.

We are in a fantasy propaganda land where Iran is attacked in the middle of negotiations and is Iran the guilty party. How many people have to die in those USA wars? I mean, enough is enough.

if you aren't familiar with Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis - i highly recommend reading on it, even if just in Wikipedia.

>How many people have to die in those USA wars? I mean, enough is enough.

I think most important isn'h how many, the most important is who. Iran's regime has just indiscriminately killed 20-30K innocent civilians and uncountable many have been tortured. That is a crime against humanity. So, the top of Iran's regime and its IRGC has to be punished. I'm fine with that punishment being US and Israel's missiles.

Israel's regime has killed twice that many in Gaza. Shouldn't they be prioritized for "punishment"?

Israel started the war in response to the genocide of Oct 7. So all the legitimate collateral victims and damage from Israel's actions here is responsibility of the perpetrators of Oct 7.

You aren't calling for prosecution of the perpetrators of Oct 7. That is already shows your colors.

Anyway, the number of killed you cite comes directly from Hamas (its Ministry of Health stated those numbers to UN). Hamas is a terrorist org, and can't be trusted at all.

There is no evidence that Israel killed civilians in any meaningful numbers, and that the killings were criminal and not legitimate collateral.

Now, there is a million of cell phones in Gaza. After several years of watching Ukraine war anybody knows the amount of cell footage to expect. Some Russian killings in Bucha were recorded by reconnaissance drone for example. Russian soldiers posted videos of them executing POWs, security cameras recorded Russian soldiers marauding and so forth. Where is pretty much no footage comes from Gaza. "Israel soldiers shoot at the crowd at food distribution center" and nobody recorded anything (especially giving that according to Hamas it happens regularly - and still no footage!)

And on rare occasions when some footage comes out - the analysis in the example below shows that the basic laws of physics wouldn't let even 20 people to be killed when Hamas claimed 400-800 in that "bombing of hospital" (again, if you watch war footage, you'd know what gore of several people killed by explosion would look like, and no way the parking lot would look that way just the morning several hours later - where is all the blood for example? it is pretty obvious that the asphalt hadn't been washed by the time photo was made so blood should be there even if they picked up all the bodies and parts of it)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38751882

>You aren't calling for prosecution of the perpetrators of Oct 7. That is already shows your colors.

The world did not start on October 7th, and it's completely disingenuous to suggest otherwise, which shows YOUR colors. I could equally state " all responsibility lies with the perpetrators of the Nakhba".

>Anyway, the number of killed you cite comes directly from Hamas (its Ministry of Health stated those numbers to UN). Hamas is a terrorist org, and can't be trusted at all.

If the number can't be trusted, why is the IDF acknowledging it?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-believes-70000-gazans-kill...

> There is no evidence that Israel killed civilians in any meaningful numbers, and that the killings were criminal and not legitimate collateral.

If this is your position no further discussion is needed. There is nothing meaningful to be gained from engaging with you. I don't know if you guys realize how insane you appear to every other human being on the planet when you try to gaslight us into thinking the piles of evidence of dead women and children either doesn't exist or is somehow accidental.

Why was Hamas created? From wikipedia: "was founded by Palestinian Islamic scholar Ahmed Yassin in 1987 after the outbreak of the First Intifada against the Israeli occupation"

What about the Houthis? From wikipedia: "The formation of the Houthi organisations has been described by Adam Baron of the European Council on Foreign Relations as a reaction to foreign intervention."

But sure, the problem is Iran.

There is not evidence about that 20-30k civilians dead. I could say it was 3 and I would have the same proof that you have.

This rationale of 'Iran is not democratic enough' (despise they have a constitution, a parliament and elections) but I will support Saudi Arabia (that light of human rights in the middle east) is nonsense.

All this is done for the geopolitical interest of USA, the oil and Israel. Anyone that say otherwise is taking us for idiots.

As i said you don't know what you're talking about. You seem to be just blabbering some gibberish. I'm not engaging with you anymore here.

https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-protest-death-toll-ofogh-tv/336...

"The government of Iran's reformist President Masud Pezeshkian has published the names and national ID numbers of 2,985 individuals killed during recent nationwide protests."

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/account-billing/download...

MFA in general had to be forced on companies, and then it is most often in software on a phone.

Here are some rough numbers.

  google_workspace:
    total_active_users: "3 billion (includes free/consumer Gmail)"
    paid_business_customers: "11 million companies (2024)"
    paid_customer_growth: "+1 million companies in under 1 year (2023-2024)"
    global_business_market_share: "~50%"
    fortune_500_presence: "minority share, weaker than Microsoft in enterprise"
    mfa_with_yubikeys:
      internal_google_employees: "100% use hardware keys (Yubikey/Titan) — since 2017"
      fido_u2f_origin: "Google co-created U2F standard with Yubico post-Operation Aurora"
      estimated_user_adoption_pct: "~1-3% of all Workspace users (inference, not published)"
      concentration: "Highest in finance, government, tech/security-conscious orgs"
      typical_majority_mfa_method: "TOTP apps (Google Authenticator) or SMS"
      enterprise_passkey_deployment_2025: "87% of US/UK enterprises deploying or have deployed passkeys (FIDO Alliance — includes all hardware key types, not Yubikey-specific)"

  microsoft_365:
    total_active_users: "~270 million (commercial)"
    paid_business_customers_us: "~1 million active US business customers"
    us_company_penetration: "~3% of all US companies"
    global_business_market_share: "~45%"
    fortune_500_presence: "~75% of Fortune 500"
    mfa_with_yubikeys:
      exact_stat_available: false
      note: "Same data gap as Workspace — no published breakdown"

  caveats:
    - "Google's 3B user figure conflates consumer and business — not comparable to Microsoft's 270M commercial figure"
    - "Market share figures vary by methodology (seats vs revenue vs orgs)"
    - "Yubikey adoption % is an industry inference; treat as directional only"
    - "Passkey != Yubikey — FIDO Alliance 87% figure covers all FIDO2/passkey methods"

Does anyone know if this is correct?

[0] https://www.android.com/enterprise/work-profile/

edit: 0 - on iOS this means enrolled via User Enrollment

Their goal is to make it too troublesome for the US/Israel to continue attacking them, like a swarm of bees attacking a bear to keep it away from their honey.

Iran is in it to win it and the US is so very obviously not.

The question is if the pressure that Israel can put on the current administration greater than the pressure that Iran can put on America as a whole.

Time will tell.

> closing the iranian borders from the outside indefinitely

Are you proposing to disrupt China-Iran shipping? Intercept even Chinese-flagged oil vessels? (not that there are many, most are still under flags of convenience)

Shoot down China-Iran civilian airliners? (again)

Do you think Trump's going to lose interest and declare victory while bombs are still flying over Bibi's head?

I suppose that just claiming victory doesn't mean the US stops fighting

Unlike Ukraine, it does not, so it seems to be focusing on cyber vandalism and blowing up oil infrastructure in US vassal states, and other low-cost, high-ROI activities.

The issue started when Israel was ready to have recognition from Saudi Arabia on their statehood. This would make Hamas irrelevant. And puts Sunnis (Iran) lesser recognised. Meanwhile Shia's (Saudi) will become the defacto in the Muslim world and half of Muslim world would either tolerate or be OK with Israel. Hamas attack on Israel at Oct 7 stopped that. Hamas has been supported by Iran for a long time. So in the whole Gaza - Israel thing, Iran was backing Hamas. Then they proxied with them by providing assistance. Then they eventually directly got involved.

You need to understand, there was good period of peace between Israel & Palestine until Oct 7.

While I reject US toppling govts around the world, Iran's hand is not clean in this one. But also, US thought this would be as easy as Venezuela and killing Iran's leader will stop this. Interfering in other countries biz have consequences. And in this case, it's true for Iran & US.

These are reversed

Israel even killed Irans negotiators last year when they were getting close to a deal. This situation is engineered, Netanyahu has wanted this for decades.

But this is after Oct 7 attack?

What a disgusting and patronizing rewriting of history. This "peace" was enforced by ongoing occupation of Palestine and abuse of the people living there.

Yes, in the year before Oct 7. alone Israel army had only killed about 40 Palestinian children (34 alone between Jan and Nov 2022).

Not to mention Iran has been a target since 2001: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNt7s_Wed_4 - if not since 1953 (their 1979 changes being a response to the 1950s western invervention that installed a dictatorship), if not since forever:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Game

It's far more likely he was did it because Hegseth thought it would be more manly or something more ego driven than extortion. More likely it's just another example of flooding the zone to forget about the Epstein files and the stagnating economy

I've often struggled to find a concise way to say "control public narrative by crowding out other headlines". Thank you for sharing the popular term for this [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_the_zone

This is only true if you completely ignore the Sunni Shia split and our relationship with literally every other country in the Middle East excluding Israel.

Edit: This is evidenced by the fact that when Iran was attacked by The US and Israel, they bombed a bunch of neighboring countries with US bases. None of those countries have alliances with Israel. (Although they are certainly less hostile than other countries in the region)

They are strengthening the regime (US intelligence services were aware of that before the attack and had informed the president), they are destabilizing all their oil producers, they are risking great economic cost..

It only makes sense if indeed they either extorted him, or if he is indeed demented / deranged.

This is true, but only for a certain percentage of the US population. Large swaths of this country think that picking on our weaker neighbors evidence of our strength

Indeed every negative repercussion you have mentioned has already been previously inflicted on us without any extortion required.

> They are strengthening the regime

Us action in Venezuela has only strengthened the PSUV's grip on the country.

> they are destabilizing all their oil producers, they are risking great economic cost.

Liberation day. Need I say more?

This administration is quite willing to risk stability and the economy to assuage Trump's ego.

I mean he campaigned on stuff like "the so-called enemy doesn’t respect our country any longer." Blaming "Kamala Harris’ weakness" for this loss of respect. What else shows strength like literally blowing up your adversary?

Wipe all data kind of seems like the best kind of cyberattack if you have backups. No data falling into wrong hands, no left behind rootkits, no ransome threats etc

You won't necessarily be able to know that the data hasn't already been exfiltrated and that the backups aren't post-compromise. Or that by restoring the backup you won't get back to the state that allowed them to get in in the first place.

Anyway, the bombings will have to continue till we rubble our enemies.

CISA was NOT another agency doing nothing.

Human Rights Watch, MSF, UNICEF? Woke grievance factories, the lot of them /s . World Health Organization? US just left it. It's slim pickings out there.

>The US-based Human Rights Activists News Agency reported Tuesday that at least 6,126 people have been killed, including 5,777 protesters, 214 government-affiliated forces, 86 children and 49 civilians, based on verified reports from its network of activists inside Iran.

>Iranian state television reported last week that 3,117 people were killed during the demonstrations, with the Martyrs Foundation stating that 2,427 were civilians and security forces. Authorities have labelled remaining casualties as "terrorists".

>However, Time magazine on Sunday cited two senior Iranian health ministry officials saying at least 30,000 people had been killed in street clashes across Iranian cities. The Guardian reported a similar figure of 30,000 deaths on 7 January, citing its sources, and added that a large number of people had disappeared.

https://www.euronews.com/2026/01/27/iran-protests-death-toll...

So just say you are full throated on the side of Iran.

I for one, am on the side of the West.

You can't trust people who paint Reza Pahlavi as a paragon of human rights and democracy. And neither you can trust every iranian refugee as a lot of those were corrupt members of the ruling government or worse, Savak members.

We do know that Russia et al sow division online as part of their anti western efforts, a strategy detailed in their "Foundations of Geopolitics" manual.

Why are you excusing this hack and why is your comment top voted on HN, a place for IT and devs? What happened to this site?

Can we get a flag feature?

there is one already, and you would know if you weren't a new account complaining about "What happened to this site" after a comment from a 20yo account.

Do you understand?

The account may be newer, but I am not, I assure you. If you want to go into personal attacks we can.

We in Sweden have had Islamist terror attacks plenty already. By supporting Iran you are sponsoring terror.

The Iranian regime just tried to murder a Swedish-Iranian:

https://www.tv4.se/artikel/7my3ReE6WsRs4GnFxj216U/uppgifter-...

USA embassy in Norway bombed by IDE

https://www.reuters.com/world/norway-police-apprehend-three-...

End of discussion.

Only in Argentina you get such an attack with no group taking responsibility. Justice system in Argentina is corrupt as hell.

Hypothetically, imagine if it ever comes out that one of our greatest allies was involved? I wonder what the reaction will be from Americans? The craziest is thing is that nothing would happen even if it were true

I'm not sure if this is any better.

But the internet in general is very leftist so they are all ok with giving Iran, Russia and China a free pass to do anything they want.

They are all oppressed by the evil west, you see. Read Marx or something they will say.

To be clear, I am Swedish. Yes we should have joined NATO sooner. We have helped USA with signalling spying since the 1950s, lookup the Catalina affair. As we should, by the way. Soviet and now Russia, is clearly our enemy. Russia aligns with China and Iran.

Yes, yes orange man bad.

Iran is a state sponsor of Islamic terrorist groups worldwide and have contributed to thousands of deaths, including children. None of it is justified but let's not pretend it's one sided.

Also elicit.

It seems a really weird target for Iran otherwise.

Makes sense given that US citizens tend not to be too supportive of american wars, but tolerate them because it doesnt really affect them. So iran can get this to affect them then people might come out to the streets. Which would be especially effective in a midterms year like now.

Man itll be ironic as fuck if iran manages to enact regime change in the us before the us does in iran

This could make americans hate iran and demand retribution, but i think its more likely to make americans made at israel and their own governmnet for dragging them into it for no reason

Things are just getting started.

This is an extremely bold lie. There have been many uprisings by Iranians against their horrible government that are extremely brutally suppressed by said government.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/589307/iran-police-chief-sa...

Iranian protesters will be treated as enemies if they support Tehran's foes, the country's top police officer warned, as the Middle East war sparked fears mass anti-government rallies could reignite.

"If anyone comes forward in line with the wishes of the enemy, we will no longer see them as merely a protester, we will see them as an enemy," said national police chief Ahmad-Reza Radan in comments aired by state broadcaster IRIB late on Tuesday.

"And we will do to them what we do to an enemy. We will deal with them in the same way we deal with enemies," he added.

"All our forces are also ready, with their hands on the trigger, prepared to defend their revolution."

His warning comes after the government cracked down on anti-government protests in January, sparked a month before over economic grievances in the sanctions-hit country.

The authorities deemed the protests to be "riots" and Radan at one point issued an ultimatum to protesters to hand themselves in or face the full force of the law.

Iranian authorities acknowledge more than 3000 deaths in the unrest, including members of the security forces and bystanders, but say the violence was caused by "terrorist acts" fuelled by Iran's enemies.

The US-based Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA), however, has recorded more than 7,000 killings in the crackdown, the vast majority protesters, though the toll may be far higher. More than 50,000 have been arrested, it says.

US President Donald Trump had initially cheered on the protesters, threatening to intervene on their behalf as authorities launched a deadly crackdown, but his threats soon shifted to Iran's nuclear programme.

Washington launched strikes with Israel on Iran on February 28, sparking retaliatory strikes by Tehran against Israel and US bases across the Gulf region.

This is a claim without evidence. Please post the Iranian statement where they say there were 3000 deaths.

> The US-based Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA)

This is an anti-Iranian propaganda outlet.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/iran-says-3117-killed-in-...

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20260122_07/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62v248xkl5o

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/17/middleeast/iran-supreme-leade...

Why it is OK for Iran to be an Islamic Theocracy but wrong for Israel to be a Jewish State? This is a pretty big double standard. You use the word Zionist like a slur.

Iran is inhabited by indigenous people. Israel is ruled by colonizers. That is the difference. Another huge difference that impacts me as a US citizen is that Iran has zero influence on my government and there are zero laws removing my rights in favor of Iran, which is the exact opposite of Israel.

Iran was violently colonized by Arabs. The history of most countries contain many wars over land yet only Israel gets focused on. So strange.

And the only reason Iran is Shia is because it was converted by force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Persia

The Muslim conquest of Persia or Arab conquest of Iran occurred between 633 and 651, when the Rashidun Caliphate under Umar conquered the Sasanian Empire as part of the early Muslim conquests, which began under Muhammad in 622.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/589307/iran-police-chief-sa...

The Iranian regime was on it's way out. A government can't survive killing that many of its own people. But as has been shown many times, the average person will choose opressive order over chaos.

The Iranian people were dangerously close to taking their country back, Isreal made sure that won't happen.

An important book to read.

So many people think this started with the islamic revolution of the 70s. The meddling goes further in time.

Was there a time in the last several thousand years when there was not a "significant amount of recent X immigrants"?

No there was not. The whole region is layers upon layers upon layers of waves of immigration of different groups.

You said: "$group has been meddling in the Middle East since $group was created"

I said: "groups have been meddling in the Middle East for millenia."

You disagreed, apparently because you're choosing to define "the current situation" as "Zionists meddling in the Middle East" so I suppose you're tautologically correct that the "current situation" has been around as long as they have.

Saying "the situation with the Zionists has existed as long as Zionism has existed" is the same as saying "the situation with Homo sapiens has existed as long as Homo sapiens has".

It would take some unpleasant searching but I'm sure one can find the most recent incident of Hezbollah (not Hamas, Hezbollah are explicitly backed by Iran) either carrying out a missile or suicide bombing attach with the loss of Israeli civilian lives.

(disclaimer: the war of aggression against Iran by Israel and its decapitation attacks are also wrong)

Iran specifically takes care to underline that it is not "an enemy of the american people".