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Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by bargl on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:35PM (#19911660)
Worth. Every. Penny.

I went to my parents house with my son. He was 4. They turned on cartoons. Then he said, "Dad why'd you change the show? I don't want to watch this." It was a commercial. I had to explain commercials to my son. It was at that moment I realized how much of my tv watching as a kid was commercials.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by anoncow on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:57PM (#19911983)
After subscribing to YouTube Premium, I had a similar revelation. Now if only we could have a google ad-free subscription which would turn off all google search and display network ads, our lives would be so much better! What if we could have cities outlaw advertising on billboards and instead collect a small tax to make up for the lost revenue, how much would our quality of life increase? That makes me wonder, if we could ever get to such an utopia, what avenues would advertisers have left to sell products to us?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by vincnetas on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:57PM (#19912713)
São Paulo is the city without outdoor advertisements.

Random link: https://99percentinvisible.org/article/clean-city-law-secret...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jakecopp on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:11AM (#19916353)
Canberra, Australia has a ban on billboards, with the exception of the airport.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/specials/curious-canberra/2017-0...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by warent on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:15PM (#19912878)
That link is awesome and could be its own HN submission altogether
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by richjdsmith on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:58AM (#19917260)
Submit it. I wholeheartedly agree!
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by DavidSJ on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:17PM (#19912902)
It looks almost like a bunch of trash was cleaned up off the streets.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:11AM (#19916355)
Advertising just works. Don't doubt it on consumers: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by cwkoss on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:12AM (#19917074)
Inoculate yourself and others from the effects of advertising by saying something negative about the brand whenever you see the ad.

Ex. I saw a Mazda ad. "Mazdas are the perfect car for when you want to look like a complete idiot while burning to death in your poorly manufactured deathtrap."

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by collyw on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:35AM (#19917169)
Or live in a country where you don't speak the language well.

On a side note whenever I am in an airport in the states its amazing how much NLP (neuro linguistic programming) you guys are bombarded by.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by scottlocklin on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:06AM (#19917584)
Could you use a concrete example? US airports are creepy as hell, especially places like Atlanta that have constant CNN blaring like the telescreen in 1984, and of course there is much disgusting advertising, but I never noticed any overt "NLP."
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by collyw on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @08:19AM (#19918648)
Shit loads of advertising and "serving those who serve you" - referring to mil arty veterans in one airport. But i guess that's the point in NLP, you arebn't supposed to notice it. It was only after reading some books on it that I noticed it as often.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by scottlocklin on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:29AM (#19928816)
Thanks, I suppose now that you mention it that is a bit creepy and Orwellian. Generally speaking, American airports are the most totalitarian and creepy and uncomfortable in the world. The telescreen blaring, the insane security line, the ads ... stuff like the insane murals in the Denver airport -I'll add that to my list of bloody awful things American flyers put up with.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by effingwewt on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:43AM (#19917204)
I find I do this automatically now. Whenever I see an ad the only thing I remember is not to buy whatever they are selling. For shows, I won't watch them. I even cancelled Netflix over their automatic trailers playing. Hulu is next with their unskippable commercials even on the 'ad free' plan
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:05AM (#19917582)
Off topic: >. I even cancelled Netflix over their automatic trailers playing.

But what shows do you enjoy on Netflix if you still cling to them (bad experience)?

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by DavidSJ on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @01:56AM (#19916781)
Does anyone doubt it?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by baddox on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:49PM (#19913755)
Seems odd to also remove what appear to be signs for retail businesses on the walls of the business itself, but maybe I’m interpreting the before and after images incorrectly.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by emp_ on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:58PM (#19913841)
Those are allowed but have limited dimensions, doesn't matter the size of your storefront you can only have a logo of a certain size, lots of loopholes like the McDonald's M or putting huge logos inside a glass wall but in general it is followed.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by a-saleh on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:57PM (#19913827)
I think those were regulated to be smaller? You can see a "SUPER OASIS" (?) sign shrunk from door-size to half-a-window size :)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by overthemoon on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:12PM (#19912844)
These photos are unreal, thanks for sharing.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by anoncow on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:31PM (#19913035)
The article has a line about how local art got a boost. Did many artists never get a chance just because our collective minds were preoccupied with product advertising? Is the presence of advertising an important distinguishing factor when we compare the current age to the Renaissance period?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HeavyStorm on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:15AM (#19916367)
Beat me to it.

Just a thing - São Paulo was the city without ads. Now, state owned boards abound in the city. But it's still much better than any other city I've ever seen in the world.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mc32 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @10:47PM (#19915988)
Imagine what Tokyo would look like if they instituted this law. In some ways, it would cease to be Tokyo and become an “Edo”
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by PunchTornado on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:36PM (#19913079)
nice, but it would be better to remove the poles too
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dimensi0nal on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:58PM (#19911997)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by eswat on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:37PM (#19913640)
I actually forgot YouTube had ads until someone showed me a video on their laptop this past weekend. Was painful to watch them try to dismiss it.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by sbr464 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:00AM (#19917025)
In addition to blocking ads, I used Adblock to remove the html for the recommended videos panel that shows up to the right or underneath a playing video. I’ve definitely noticed a personal reduction in wormhole clicking YouTube usage.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by vonseel on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:53PM (#19913796)
I find uBlock works well at blocking YouTube ads but occasionally I get a static screen in the video player that says something like “Service not available at the moment.”. YT seems to be intermittently blocking UBO users.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by gorhill on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @07:35AM (#19918362)
This also affects other blockers.[1][2]

I never reproduced such issue on my side, so unfortunately there is no way for me to investigate -- given that this affects different blockers with different code base, I suspect a filter issue.

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[1] https://venturebeat.com/2016/03/13/youtube-shows-adblock-plu...

[2] https://help.getadblock.com/support/solutions/articles/60001...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by baud147258 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:08AM (#19917604)
I've seen such errors, on Chrome with UBlock, but I don't know if it's coming from Ublock or from my network connection.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by yzssi on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @07:14PM (#19914764)
I use ubo and I've never, ever had that happen to me. My two cents.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by vonseel on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @07:22PM (#19914823)
Disabling it temporarily always fixes the problem, so I have assumed it is due to UBO blocking something which if YT sees has been blocked enough times for a specific visitor, they will prevent video from loading, but maybe my hypothesis is incorrect. This only happens when I’m watching a lot of YouTube videos one after the other.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Shank on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:45AM (#19917488)
I seem to recall that if you disable uBlock on a site, you have to reload for the change to take effect. Is it possible that the page reload and not disabling uBlock is doing it?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by lostmsu on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:52AM (#19916525)
Anything for FireTV? I tried DNS blocking, but that did not affect YouTube there (it runs on FF, which does not support add-ons on Fire OS).
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by switchbak on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:11PM (#19912161)
This reminded me of Elysium: but instead of the rich being the only ones able to receive quality health care, here they are the only ones able to afford a reprieve from these mind numbing ads.

I would love to be able to eliminate all ads in my life. At the same time, doesn't this feel a little like the advertisers are extorting us for some $$? Lest they jam more ads down your throat.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by luma on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @06:10PM (#19914336)
This Banksy quote feels apropos:

> People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you're not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you. You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity. Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It's yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head. You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don't owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don't even start asking for theirs.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:41AM (#19917464)
AFAIK here in NL they did ask for permission, from the government. The government happily gives these even though they make our roads less safe. Meanwhile, people who use a (smart)phone whilst driving get a fine. Why do the billboards remain on the road? Why are there electronic billboards in the bus? Why can't I enjoy the scenery, or read my book instead?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ReidZB on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:20PM (#19912937)
I've eliminated all virtual ads in my life, at least, and I typically ignore in-person ads subconsciously. I don't have a cable subscription, I pay for every platform/tool I use, etc. I also run an ad blocker, though I try to be careful about making sure I'm paying for something that's valuable to me.

I don't really feel extorted. These things are usually services provided to me, services that probably would not exist without revenue, whether by ads or subscriptions.

I will say this: there are times where I feel somewhat disconnected as a result, especially when it comes to entertainment. Like, I saw Avengers: Endgame without having seen Captain Marvel first... because I didn't know Captain Marvel was being released. It didn't show up on any of my social media, I guess, or I missed it if it did.

Similarly, I've missed new seasons of shows I cared about. No political ads - sometimes people refer to local ads in casual conversation and I'm mostly lost. Stuff like that.

It's sort of eye-opening to realize how much information is disseminated via ads/media. I mean, it's obvious in retrospect, right? But to experience it, well, it's something.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by namanyayg on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:49PM (#19913211)
I quit most social media a few months ago and have always blocked ads the best I could, and I completely agree. A sense of alienation is felt.

What's more, is that I "realize" that none of the things I was missing really matter. I do not care, at all, that I missed Captain marvel. Nor that I missed my favourite TV show -- I can always watch it later, if I really want to.

Seeing other people then care about such trivialities is a novel experience too.

Nowadays, the source of most of my pop culture current events is my SO. She applies her own hereustics, and (mostly) genuinelyy interesting pieces of info are what pass through her to me. She's getting it via top Instagram/Facebook/YouTube posts anyway. I find this system much better than the earlier one.

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Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dang on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:24AM (#19917117)
That's a personal attack and also breaks this guideline: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

Could you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of this site more to heart? This comment and the two or three previous ones you posted have been breaking it.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by la_barba on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:37PM (#19912470)
> At the same time, doesn't this feel a little like the advertisers are extorting us for some $$? Lest they jam more ads down your throat.

They wouldn't have succeeded in this extortion (online) if it wasn't for companies with billions of dollars hiring the smartest people in the world to enable advertisers to spy on people en-masse.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dorgo on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:00PM (#19913852)
Rest assured that advertisement works with and without spying. Spying just improves efficiency somewhat.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by treypitt on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @06:28PM (#19914444)
To supply a supporting anecdote: as a cis male, I'm consistently served ads for female-products like tampons on Instagram, presumably one of the "smartest" spies out there
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ahje on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @02:12AM (#19916846)
Same here, except it's for women's clothes...
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by germinalphrase on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:13PM (#19912861)
If AR becomes a reality, this will become all the more acute. Public advertising is currently limited by physical boundaries. Hyperreality [0] sets a clear vision for one possible future.

[0] https://vimeo.com/166807261?ref=em-share

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by eswat on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:43PM (#19913704)
When the GP mentioned Elysium I was also reminded of the live-action Ghost in the Shell movie with the AR ads similar to this video.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by michaelchisari on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:07PM (#19912797)
Someone has to pay for these services. Either we pay for them or advertisers do.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jeena on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:29PM (#19913580)
It's not like advertisers pay for the services from their own money. They 'basically' force you to buy the stuff which they advertise and take that money to pay the service.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by antepodius on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:41PM (#19912520)
Get an adblocker!
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by eswat on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:38PM (#19913646)
Works for your devices. Doesn’t work for the outside world.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dorgo on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:04PM (#19913887)
It took me years to train my brain to not read outdoor advertisement. I can't stop it from seeing/interpreting images, but I can successfully ignore text/letters which are less than a meter in size.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:14AM (#19916365)
Can't get one on chrome mobile. I know know...
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ulucs on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:36AM (#19917173)
Mobile Firefox has (almost?) full add-on parity with the desktop version. I don't know what I'd do without uBlock0 everywhere
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:43AM (#19917469)
Yes, you can. You can use a different browser such as Mozilla Firefox, or use DNS-based blocking such as Pi-Hole. I use both of these, and use WireGuard to reach my Pi-Hole. If I have a network connection, I have an adblocker.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:07AM (#19917598)
>You can use a different browser such as Mozilla

I just really like Google fast search by selecting. Can't live without it.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:35AM (#19917736)
Sounds like a horrible feature. Selecting data makes you Google it? What if you copy/paste a password. Vimium does it right for me, but requires physical keyboard.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @06:03AM (#19917874)
It's that thing on mobile that we have: instant search.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @06:26AM (#19918000)
Selecting text in my world is either copying text, or selecting text. Not searching for that text on a search engine. That shouldn't be the default (most common) keybind.

Anyway, you can still use DNS-based (with or without VPN) filtering.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Hermandw on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:22AM (#19917113)
You can get ad free mobile browsers like Ghostery browser.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by yogenpro on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:37PM (#19913644)
There is "Google Contributor" [1].

The idea is basically that you pay the publisher out of your own pocket for their ad space, to buy your own impression. This might be a great product if it covers the majority of ad inventories...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Contributor

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by captn3m0 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:51PM (#19912638)
Bangalore blocked all billboards recently. Different reasons, but similar effect.

It is like the whole city is on Adblock.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Scottopherson on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:07PM (#19912104)
I've been enjoying YouTube Red/Premium for about a year and a half but I'm kind of considering cancelling it to go back to using an adblocker for YouTube's embedded ads and supporting specific creators via Patreon or something. The majority of the channels I watch embed their own ad-reads into their videos now so the ad-free value proposition for Premium is getting much weaker for me.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jeena on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:35PM (#19913627)
I was considering it too and I don't understand why Google doesn't force the creators to mark up when the ads start and end so it could just jump over them for people who pay YouTube Premium to specifically get rid of ads. People like us will stop paying go with a adblocker.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mguerville on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:37PM (#19912465)
I just cancelled mine and let me tell you, the added 10 to 30 seconds of ads before the video starts are already bugging me a lot.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by antepodius on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:42PM (#19912530)
Is there any particular reason you're not using an adblocker?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jeromegv on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:05PM (#19912779)
If you watch lots of Youtube with the iPad/iPhone apps, there wouldn't be any adblocker for that.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by SHAKEDECADE on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @09:19AM (#19919077)
adblock for IOS can block all types of stuff. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/adblock/id691121579 They also make an app called webblock which nice but less powerful.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by noir_lord on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:32PM (#19913046)
Adguard works if you watch in Safari.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by reificator on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:13PM (#19912188)
I cancelled my Google Play Music family subscription (of which I was the only user at that point) and then signed up for a normal subscription. Didn't realize doing so lost my bundled Youtube Red subscription in the process. Started getting midroll ads on YouTube on my phone and couldn't figure out why...
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by greyfox on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:38PM (#19912473)
you might look into using youtube vanced
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by noir_lord on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:29PM (#19913011)
NewPipe is awesome as well (and you can download) and since it pretends to be a browser its got some neat features, it's in the FDroid store.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Kiro on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:59AM (#19917263)
As someone who only uses YouTube for music I'm glad that embedded ads are not a thing for music channels. YouTube Premium is worth a thousand times more than any Spotify subscription.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by pickdenis on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:13PM (#19912186)
> what avenues would advertisers have left to sell products to us?

My serious guess would be even more paid shills. It's amazing how much more weight a message can have when it comes from someone that's not obviously tied to the company.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by switchbak on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:17PM (#19912232)
My skepticism level is now of epic proportions when I see someone recommending products online. Louis Rossmann is one notable exception, but far too rare.

These days I usually just type "reviews for XXX reddit", but even that isn't a sure thing anymore.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by pault on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:22PM (#19912276)
Just one of the many things SEO has ruined. Searching "x reviews" for any x is completely worthless at best, actively hostile at worst.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by layoutIfNeeded on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:21PM (#19912946)
The trick is to look for negative reviews first.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by rchaud on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:27PM (#19913568)
Yup, I do the "[search query] + reddit" in my searches as well. Just including the phrase on its own brings up a ton of garbage sites with reviews written by content marketing people for SEO purposes as opposed a 3-4 line Reddit comment.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by crazypyro on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:23PM (#19913527)
I use reddit for all kinds of suggestions. It's definitely getting harder and it also helps to be in the target demographic of reddit.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by aiilnns on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @09:52AM (#19919354)
> What if we could have cities outlaw advertising on billboards and instead collect a small tax to make up for the lost revenue

To me there is something seriously wrong with this way of thought. Why would we collect a small tax to make up for businesses' lost profit? It sounds, to me, downright bizarre, like saying forcing factories to be more environmentally friendly would cost money to the business and cut profits so we should take that money from the taxpayers. Wow.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by thomasahle on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:14PM (#19912195)
> if we could have cities outlaw advertising on billboards and instead collect a small tax to make up for the lost revenue, how much would our quality of life increase?

Ideally decisions would instead be made based on unbiased reviews and rational decision making.

Hopefully the lack of advertising would relieve us from unconscious decision fatigue and free up our energy for other parts of life.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dwiel on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:52PM (#19912661)
We have a ban on billboards in our town in Indiana of all places, its definitely possible. It is nice as well, I always forget how annoying they are until I travel to other cities.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by btbuildem on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:11PM (#19912834)
I think it would create a sort of a monopoly -- the municipal taxes paying the ad-free tithe. I imagine corruption and backroom deals would result in that cost going up and up over time.

A better solution would be to outlaw ads / billboards, and ticket the offenders to offset the lost income from billboards etc. Municipalities love new revenue streams.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by FiatLuxDave on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:41PM (#19913141)
Instead of banning a particular avenue of advertising, which moves the advertising spend to somewhere else, why not have a broad-based tax on advertising spending?

We've seen how ineffective things like banning advertising to children were on reducing smoking, while raising taxes on cigarettes was quite effective at reducing smoking levels. And some advertising is useful. I don't need no advertising in my life, I just need less of it. Taxes would reduce the "arm's race" effect where companies need to advertise because their competitors are advertising. I suspect that the quality of advertising would go up if it were more expensive, as well.

Perhaps at some point in the future, we will have too little advertising and there will need to be a debate on how we should reduce the advertising tax. I long for this day.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ACow_Adonis on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @07:28PM (#19914864)
But smoking rates have been dropping, and the tobacco companies certainly put up a huge fight here in Aus when we tried to enforce plain packaging on cigarettes, so they're spending an awful lot of resources on fighting something that 'doesn't work'...(hint: it does)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ducttape12 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:22PM (#19912286)
If you're not a fan of blocking ads, DuckDuckGo let's you disable ads in their search results.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dorgo on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:10PM (#19913926)
what is the difference between blocking and disabling? The result is the same, right?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ducttape12 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:26PM (#19935286)
Yes, just without the guilt (since this means DDG is clearly okay with not making ad revenue off me)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by heavymark on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:47PM (#19913740)
That world exists with ad blockers. Was viewing a friend's computer who didn't have an ad blocker installed and almost forgot what it had been like to see ads plastered everywhere online.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dorgo on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:27PM (#19914056)
> what avenues would advertisers have left to sell products to us?

Maybe pay me some money for my attention? In exchange you get all the data from me: how much money I spend on X. How often I do Y. Whatever helps you sell your product to me. If you succeed and I like your ad or buy your product, the ad is for free. Otherwise you pay me some €/$/coins.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by scarface74 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:47PM (#19913190)
Ad blockers effectively block Google ads on desktops and iOS - including third party apps like Feedly that use the SafariViewController.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by lmkg on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:47PM (#19911834)
To be fair, my favorite show growing up was Transformers. So technically even the show itself was a commercial.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by TallGuyShort on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:34PM (#19912437)
Transformers is great advertising - it delivered good entertainment value, it made the toys more fun to play with because your imagination had already seen a bunch of Transformers stories play out.

Contrast this with cable TV ads if you haven't watched cable TV in a while. Annoying, gimmicky, manipulative.

I don't have a problem with commercials on principle - I have a problem with how they're implemented. Banner ads on website that give me good content for free? Great! Informing me there are hot MILFs in my area while I'm pair-programming with my boss? No thanks.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mgkimsal on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:30PM (#19913018)
I'm always reminded of the Mattel and Mars Bar quick Energy Chocobot Hour whenever I think of Transformers...

https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Mattel_and_Mars_Bar_Quick_E...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HErRwSpla0

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by bargl on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:52PM (#19911912)
I don't know how many PJ Masks toys and shirts I've bought based on that show.

The thing that got me as a kid was seeing all the cool food everyone else got that my parents wouldn't give me. I just wanted hot pockets in my house like they had. Kids will always want toys like the shows they like. But the other stuff isn't necessary.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by cortesoft on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:43PM (#19913710)
Yeah, all my favorite shows from my childhood in the 80's were created to sell a toy.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Insanity on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:51PM (#19911899)
That probably goes for a lot of shows for kids :)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by smhenderson on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:47PM (#19912599)
I'd say if a kids show is not on public television it most likely is a commercial for a toy or a vehicle for a number of other ads for unrelated toys.

And even for me and my five year old, there is plenty of Danial Tiger gear out there to buy! The difference is they make and sell the toys but they don't advertise them during the show. It's not much but that subtle difference is what allows me to sit down and watch 30 - 60 minutes of these shows a few times a week with her.

As others have mentioned, even NetFlix "sells toys", just not overtly like network TV does. But just watching PJ Max, Trolls, etc. makes my five year old grand daughter want everything she sees when we go to any store that has these shows' stuff for sale.

Both of them are still better than numbing their minds with 8-12 minutes of intense, flashy commercials for every 30 minute show they watch though.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:27AM (#19917403)
One of the reasons I got Netflix, and one of the reasons why I want to get rid of cable TV (I can't get internet without cable TV). However I am getting tired of the autoplay functions in Netflix. They. Are. Annoying.

Commercials for children are a cancer to society. They're a distraction and a waste of our precious time. Parents don't want it (they got enough on their hands as it is), children don't want it (it isn't content, they get manipulated).

While I will protect my children (and myself) from any commercials, its also good to teach them that not everything they notice is truth or can be achieved/bought.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Raphmedia on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:11PM (#19912164)
In Québec, the Consumer Protection Act prohibits commercial advertising directed at children under 13 years of age. One negative effect is that this has made it very hard for genuine educational companies to grow. It is hard to market a product that teach kids to code if you cannot show the product to kids.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by chrisseaton on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:14PM (#19912194)
> It is hard to market a product that teach kids to code if you cannot show the product to kids.

You show it to their parents, don't you?

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Raphmedia on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:38PM (#19912474)
You can but even then you risk not following the rules correctly.

> The Consumer Protection Act prohibits advertising that targets children. To determine whether advertising is directed at them, the Act stipulates that it is necessary to take into account the context of the advertisement’s presentation and the impression it gives.

> The Act also provides three criteria that correspond to the following questions:

> • For whom are the advertised goods or services intended? Do they appeal to children?

> • Is the advertisement designed to attract the attention of children?

> • Are children targeted by the advertisement or exposed to it? Are they present at the time and place it appears or is broadcast?

[...]

> Goods or services essentially intended for children and that therefore appeal to them. Ex.: certain video games, toys or candy primarily consumed by children.

> The ad must not:

> • be designed in a way that appeals to children;

> • be broadcast or distributed in a place where or at a time when children are normally reached.

[...]

> The fact that an advertisement or advertising method appears to target adults does not mean that the advertisement is intended exclusively for them. Following an analysis of the two other criteria, an advertisement that attracts the attention of children can still be considered as advertising directed at children even though it seems to target adults because of its verbal or written content. That may be the case if the product advertised appeals to children.

- https://www.opc.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/media/documents/consomm...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by bunderbunder on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:37PM (#19913090)
Sounds like, ironically enough, this might be about the only ad that's safe to run:

https://youtu.be/Prg_SVBfFWw

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by chrisseaton on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:45PM (#19912575)
So you could advertise a coding educational product during commercials of a late-night talk show, that talk about the educational benefits of the product?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by rchaud on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:30PM (#19913592)
"Educational companies" is a narrow enough industry where advertising to the appropriate market segments while excluding children is entirely possible. If you sell educational products, you wouldn't be advertising on a kid's cartoon show, you'd be doing it on channels where adults with wallets would convene.

Teacher's unions publications/newsletters would be a no-brainer, as would popular blogs or Youtube channels focused on child-rearing.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by sitkack on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:12AM (#19917075)
I came to say something similar. My child gets irate when she sees an ad, esp when she plays a free to play game on the iphone and I forget to put the phone in airplane mode.

her: "Dad, what is this? I want to play my game"

me: "Oh sorry, that is an ad, let me fix this."

her: "I hate ads!"

She is basically the same with trailers.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by brixon on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:51PM (#19911901)
Granted, my son now wants toys based on this "new" show he was watching and is sad to find out that toys for this are no longer made and the only ones that exist are collectibles.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by legohead on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:02PM (#19912041)
Brand marketing towards children is a real and effective thing. There was a study done on wrapping basic food (carrots/apples) in McDonalds branding and kids said it tasted better [1]. Always seemed scary to me.

Glad my kids don't have the same amount of brainwashing as I did. However, we have our own generational problems to deal with, like YouTube "merch" begging, clickbaiting, etc. Now that I think about it, maybe I'd rather they'd see TV adverts...

[1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/kids-think-food-in-mcdonald-s-wrappe...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by saluki on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:20PM (#19912933)
Same my son grew up on Netflix, we were watching the Super Bowl on OTA tv when he was 5 and he asked the same thing, what's this? Oh that's a commercial.

He also picked up that when we search a toy on amazon, afterward there would be an ad on the side of YouTube for the same toy, he pointed and asked how they did that. This was around the same time, he was 5 or 6.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mcv on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:48AM (#19917500)
When I was a kid, our evening TV was always Sesame Street -> Klokhuis (a pop-sci-ish program for kids) -> Jeugdjournaal (news presented in an accessible way for kids), and after that it's my dad's turn to watch the real news at 8.

All those shows still exist, and recently we did that again, and we were all baffled by how much commercials we had to watch. Dutch public TV has commercials, and that's looking increasingly odd now that we're all so used to Netflix. My son was calling to skip it, but we couldn't.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by sdegutis on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:13PM (#19912849)
Why not go further and get rid of TV? The problems it creates seem to greatly outweigh any little benefits. And most of the benefits can be gotten with books anyway, which also has more benefits.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by stlark on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:21PM (#19912948)
What about documentaries like Planet Earth? Would find it hard to believe that a book could replace that.

TV is fine in moderation.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by sdegutis on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:44PM (#19913173)
I've never seen or heard of that documentary and probably neither have my kids, but we seem to get along just fine without it.

Also we don't have TV and less than a year ago got rid of Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, our home internet connection, our mobile internet connections, and our landline telephone.

I find that now we read a lot more books and talk a lot more and explore the world around us more often and more actively. And we all like to share the exciting new things we learn about, them from school and us from reading at home. So there's no shortage of learning from lack of TV.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by filoleg on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:46PM (#19913731)
Genuinely curious, how are you planning to handle the future in which your kids go to college and move out of your house? Do you feel like they will be adequately prepared to deal with the world that has internet, Netflix, smartphones, etc.? To me, this situation reminds of all those sheltered kids with overprotective parents, who went off the rails once they got to college, because they were not prepared to handle well all those new options they were "protected" from by their parents.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by sdegutis on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @07:27PM (#19914861)
Right now is the time for us to teach them self-control and self-restraint, and we do that in little ways that get bigger over time. As all virtues, if you sharpen it against one thing, it'll be sharper for the next thing. Those devices will probably be one of those ways they can practice as they get old enough, but with supervision of course.

The idea is, if you give a kid a solid foundation for a happy life by the time they're a young adult, so that they have a formula and a recipe for a life that they feel completely satisfied with, they won't feel unfulfilled and like life is missing something when they become adults, which is the biggest motivator for people adopting bad habits, especially the bad habits of their peers. So that's my job. Give them a good, full life now, and teach them how to navigate life while making it good and full in wholesome and rewarding ways. Then trust them to make these decisions as adults. And guide them through it the whole time. My job won't end when they're 18 or 81. I'm always their father and role model and guide, til the day I die.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by m463 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @08:07PM (#19915116)
I think a lot of "shared experience" stuff in the network tv era included the ads. I still remember advertising songs and things like the big mac ingredients.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by SiVal on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @01:05AM (#19916580)
"Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun!" I hadn't thought of that one for decades. I could feel bad about not memorizing Shakespeare instead, but I also have MANY numerical constants in permastore from the same era, so I can't complain too much.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mcphage on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:14PM (#19912202)
I had that same experience with my daughter—it was Thanksgiving, so we put on the Macy's Day Parade 'cause hey, giant balloons. And then a commercial came on and she asked me to put the balloons back.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by anpmat on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @06:23PM (#19914404)
Couldn't agree more, and when a lot of kids are doing that you can imagine how much of an effect it has on peer pressure and what is considered a cool toy to have.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mysterydip on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:29PM (#19913006)
Same thing with mine. Not being able to choose an episode or show, and being stuck with whatever the channel wanted to provide, was a foreign concept.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by 83457 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:22PM (#19912275)
Did you tell this story years ago on hn? Someone did and I've mentioned it to a few people since. (although I guess it is a common situation)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jerf on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:48PM (#19912603)
Even just in my own personal life, I've heard similar stories from more than one person. I've also both heard and personally witnessed with my own kids them trying to manipulate the primary TV of the house like it's a touchscreen, so I'm sure that's a story that's independently happened many hundreds of thousands of times by now, if not millions.

(I don't have a cute story, though. They just tried it once, I told them it didn't work that way, please stop smearing the TV with your hands, and they stopped. No cute questions or comments about the TV being "broken".)

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Angostura on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:09AM (#19917607)
I remember my kids similar confusion/annoyance when they first strayed from the BBC children's channels - CBeebies and CBBC
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Circuits on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:12PM (#19912840)
Funny that they say it's saving kids all this time.. as if adults aren't the main consumers of Netflix media.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by not_a_cop75 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @06:54PM (#19914617)
Until it's not and they advertise anyway. Netflix has adopted the pay and advertise anyway model. The advertising in this case is the product you've already paid for, which is still annoying and bothersome. Apparently, they are trying to work off the success of AOL.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by turk73 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:47PM (#19911839)
I have had the same experience.

Also, some relative gave us some kids' VHS tapes and I still had a player so I figured why not? Well, let me tell you why not: Nobody has time for rewinding to take place and the low-quality video and audio is quaint, but it's dead tech. The VCR and all the tapes got recycled shortly thereafter.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by lostlogin on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:44PM (#19912548)
> Nobody has time for rewinding

VHS could be stopped where you wanted to stop. Who hasn’t played the frustrating dance where streamed video buffers, plays some other part or jumps back to where you were. VHS rwd and ffw buttons just worked.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by silversconfused on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:56PM (#19911966)
Really? We love our VCR. How else are you going to watch beauty and the beast without suffering through human again?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by amelius on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:38PM (#19913096)
On the flip side, commercials can teach a kid to be patient, and that it can not always have instant/continuous gratification.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by PascLeRasc on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:55PM (#19913809)
I agree with you, but I downvoted to build your character. You're welcome!
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by EpicEng on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:25PM (#19913547)
There are much better ways to teach that.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by aqme28 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:40PM (#19913673)
You could apply that same logic to pretty much any hardship that builds character. It's not a good argument.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by MichaelDickens on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:43PM (#19913155)
If that's your goal, wouldn't it be better to just pause the TV every 10 minutes or so for a few minutes at a time? That would have the same effect in terms of delaying gratification, and it's strictly better because you're not exposing your child to commercials.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mobjack on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:56PM (#19913817)
Pausing the TV every 10 minutes is much harder as a parent on many different levels.

Commercials can teach kids about long term instant gratification when it comes to toys. If they want something they see on TV, then they can wait until their birthday/Christmas to get it and decide which ones they want most.

They can also learn that often toys on TV seem more fun than they are in real life. They can learn to be more skeptical when it comes to advertising through experience.

Commercials are not really the problem. It is spoiling kids and buying them something every time they demand it that causes issues.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ACow_Adonis on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @07:38PM (#19914923)
Can't the same be achieved just by limiting/ scheduling screen time?

(And a while host of other parental techniques incidentally)

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by pastor_elm on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:53PM (#19911928)
were the ads really all that bad though? I don't remember asking for much more than video games, board games, hungry hungry hippos, McDonalds, Sunny D, etc.

Kids today get crazy ads on Instagram and are asking for Supreme shirts, Yeezus shoes, Kylie Jenner makeup kits.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by standardUser on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:04PM (#19912066)
Yes, they were that bad and were getting worse. By the late 90's, most ads directed at young children were reminiscent of a bad acid trip. Flashing lights and colors, non-stop quick-cuts and people literally screaming over and over for you, a child of 6 or 7 years, to BUY THE THING! YOU GOTTA HAVE IT! COLLECT THEM ALL!

It was absolutely terrifying and we should all be collectively ashamed for allowing it to persist and to happen in the first place.

Here's a random example I just found on YouTube (first 30 seconds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXzR3-w3vEQ

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by whamlastxmas on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:46PM (#19913188)
Those don't look like ads from the 90s.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ssully on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:14PM (#19912203)
Ads like that suck, but I think you are pearl clutching a bit.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by owlninja on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:05PM (#19912086)
My kids have literally zero disposable income. I'm not saying I enjoy ads or that we need more, but HN goes really over the top against advertising.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ceejayoz on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:09PM (#19912127)
> My kids have literally zero disposable income.

They can ask to use yours, though, which is what most kid-targeted advertising looks to cause.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by owlninja on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:22PM (#19913510)
And you just say no?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ceejayoz on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:01PM (#19913865)
Sure, you can, but most parents don't say no every time, and that means sometimes asking's going to pay off.

Some of the "kidfluencer" content out there is clearly aimed at giving kids talking points to bring to their parents. Before we banned YouTube from the house a few years back, I had a couple experiences where my kids would come and give me canned marketing copy - "it's fun and educational for the whole family!" sort of nonsense - they'd clearly cribbed off a video.

One specific example of this I can remember: "EvanTube". Started off cute and relatively non-commercial, but turned into very clearly paid marketing. https://www.fastcompany.com/3045807/meet-the-father-son-team...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by rpedela on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:38PM (#19912480)
Do you want them to constantly ask for useless junk or unhealthy junk (e.g. sugary cereal)? Throwing a tantrum when they don't get their way?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jolux on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:12PM (#19912177)
How are those ads worse? This feels completely arbitrary.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by saghm on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:17PM (#19912227)
I think GP is saying that what they asked for as a kid was much more affordable
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jolux on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:38AM (#19917444)
Sure? It’s still consumer capitalism?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by pastor_elm on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:09PM (#19912820)
they are explicit ads for fun things, not some ambiguous influencer ad that makes your kid feel bad about themselves.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jolux on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:40AM (#19917461)
…sure, the ads make them seem fun. Maybe kids these days want special clothes instead of McDonald’s and Sunny D? (those things are good for what they are but not great in any objective sense. Neither are clothes, but that’s kind of my point.) Also from experience of my younger sibling and my cousins, those ads (and things) are mostly seen and desired by teenagers, which is morally questionable in different ways.