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Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by anoncow on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:57PM (#19911983)
After subscribing to YouTube Premium, I had a similar revelation. Now if only we could have a google ad-free subscription which would turn off all google search and display network ads, our lives would be so much better! What if we could have cities outlaw advertising on billboards and instead collect a small tax to make up for the lost revenue, how much would our quality of life increase? That makes me wonder, if we could ever get to such an utopia, what avenues would advertisers have left to sell products to us?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by vincnetas on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:57PM (#19912713)
São Paulo is the city without outdoor advertisements.

Random link: https://99percentinvisible.org/article/clean-city-law-secret...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jakecopp on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:11AM (#19916353)
Canberra, Australia has a ban on billboards, with the exception of the airport.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/specials/curious-canberra/2017-0...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by warent on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:15PM (#19912878)
That link is awesome and could be its own HN submission altogether
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by richjdsmith on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:58AM (#19917260)
Submit it. I wholeheartedly agree!
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by DavidSJ on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:17PM (#19912902)
It looks almost like a bunch of trash was cleaned up off the streets.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:11AM (#19916355)
Advertising just works. Don't doubt it on consumers: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by cwkoss on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:12AM (#19917074)
Inoculate yourself and others from the effects of advertising by saying something negative about the brand whenever you see the ad.

Ex. I saw a Mazda ad. "Mazdas are the perfect car for when you want to look like a complete idiot while burning to death in your poorly manufactured deathtrap."

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by collyw on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:35AM (#19917169)
Or live in a country where you don't speak the language well.

On a side note whenever I am in an airport in the states its amazing how much NLP (neuro linguistic programming) you guys are bombarded by.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by scottlocklin on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:06AM (#19917584)
Could you use a concrete example? US airports are creepy as hell, especially places like Atlanta that have constant CNN blaring like the telescreen in 1984, and of course there is much disgusting advertising, but I never noticed any overt "NLP."
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by collyw on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @08:19AM (#19918648)
Shit loads of advertising and "serving those who serve you" - referring to mil arty veterans in one airport. But i guess that's the point in NLP, you arebn't supposed to notice it. It was only after reading some books on it that I noticed it as often.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by scottlocklin on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:29AM (#19928816)
Thanks, I suppose now that you mention it that is a bit creepy and Orwellian. Generally speaking, American airports are the most totalitarian and creepy and uncomfortable in the world. The telescreen blaring, the insane security line, the ads ... stuff like the insane murals in the Denver airport -I'll add that to my list of bloody awful things American flyers put up with.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by effingwewt on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:43AM (#19917204)
I find I do this automatically now. Whenever I see an ad the only thing I remember is not to buy whatever they are selling. For shows, I won't watch them. I even cancelled Netflix over their automatic trailers playing. Hulu is next with their unskippable commercials even on the 'ad free' plan
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:05AM (#19917582)
Off topic: >. I even cancelled Netflix over their automatic trailers playing.

But what shows do you enjoy on Netflix if you still cling to them (bad experience)?

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by DavidSJ on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @01:56AM (#19916781)
Does anyone doubt it?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by baddox on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:49PM (#19913755)
Seems odd to also remove what appear to be signs for retail businesses on the walls of the business itself, but maybe I’m interpreting the before and after images incorrectly.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by emp_ on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:58PM (#19913841)
Those are allowed but have limited dimensions, doesn't matter the size of your storefront you can only have a logo of a certain size, lots of loopholes like the McDonald's M or putting huge logos inside a glass wall but in general it is followed.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by a-saleh on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:57PM (#19913827)
I think those were regulated to be smaller? You can see a "SUPER OASIS" (?) sign shrunk from door-size to half-a-window size :)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by overthemoon on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:12PM (#19912844)
These photos are unreal, thanks for sharing.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by anoncow on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:31PM (#19913035)
The article has a line about how local art got a boost. Did many artists never get a chance just because our collective minds were preoccupied with product advertising? Is the presence of advertising an important distinguishing factor when we compare the current age to the Renaissance period?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HeavyStorm on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:15AM (#19916367)
Beat me to it.

Just a thing - São Paulo was the city without ads. Now, state owned boards abound in the city. But it's still much better than any other city I've ever seen in the world.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mc32 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @10:47PM (#19915988)
Imagine what Tokyo would look like if they instituted this law. In some ways, it would cease to be Tokyo and become an “Edo”
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by PunchTornado on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:36PM (#19913079)
nice, but it would be better to remove the poles too
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dimensi0nal on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @01:58PM (#19911997)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by eswat on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:37PM (#19913640)
I actually forgot YouTube had ads until someone showed me a video on their laptop this past weekend. Was painful to watch them try to dismiss it.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by sbr464 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:00AM (#19917025)
In addition to blocking ads, I used Adblock to remove the html for the recommended videos panel that shows up to the right or underneath a playing video. I’ve definitely noticed a personal reduction in wormhole clicking YouTube usage.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by vonseel on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:53PM (#19913796)
I find uBlock works well at blocking YouTube ads but occasionally I get a static screen in the video player that says something like “Service not available at the moment.”. YT seems to be intermittently blocking UBO users.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by gorhill on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @07:35AM (#19918362)
This also affects other blockers.[1][2]

I never reproduced such issue on my side, so unfortunately there is no way for me to investigate -- given that this affects different blockers with different code base, I suspect a filter issue.

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[1] https://venturebeat.com/2016/03/13/youtube-shows-adblock-plu...

[2] https://help.getadblock.com/support/solutions/articles/60001...

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by baud147258 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:08AM (#19917604)
I've seen such errors, on Chrome with UBlock, but I don't know if it's coming from Ublock or from my network connection.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by yzssi on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @07:14PM (#19914764)
I use ubo and I've never, ever had that happen to me. My two cents.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by vonseel on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @07:22PM (#19914823)
Disabling it temporarily always fixes the problem, so I have assumed it is due to UBO blocking something which if YT sees has been blocked enough times for a specific visitor, they will prevent video from loading, but maybe my hypothesis is incorrect. This only happens when I’m watching a lot of YouTube videos one after the other.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Shank on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:45AM (#19917488)
I seem to recall that if you disable uBlock on a site, you have to reload for the change to take effect. Is it possible that the page reload and not disabling uBlock is doing it?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by lostmsu on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:52AM (#19916525)
Anything for FireTV? I tried DNS blocking, but that did not affect YouTube there (it runs on FF, which does not support add-ons on Fire OS).
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by switchbak on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:11PM (#19912161)
This reminded me of Elysium: but instead of the rich being the only ones able to receive quality health care, here they are the only ones able to afford a reprieve from these mind numbing ads.

I would love to be able to eliminate all ads in my life. At the same time, doesn't this feel a little like the advertisers are extorting us for some $$? Lest they jam more ads down your throat.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by luma on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @06:10PM (#19914336)
This Banksy quote feels apropos:

> People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you're not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you. You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity. Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It's yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head. You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don't owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don't even start asking for theirs.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:41AM (#19917464)
AFAIK here in NL they did ask for permission, from the government. The government happily gives these even though they make our roads less safe. Meanwhile, people who use a (smart)phone whilst driving get a fine. Why do the billboards remain on the road? Why are there electronic billboards in the bus? Why can't I enjoy the scenery, or read my book instead?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ReidZB on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:20PM (#19912937)
I've eliminated all virtual ads in my life, at least, and I typically ignore in-person ads subconsciously. I don't have a cable subscription, I pay for every platform/tool I use, etc. I also run an ad blocker, though I try to be careful about making sure I'm paying for something that's valuable to me.

I don't really feel extorted. These things are usually services provided to me, services that probably would not exist without revenue, whether by ads or subscriptions.

I will say this: there are times where I feel somewhat disconnected as a result, especially when it comes to entertainment. Like, I saw Avengers: Endgame without having seen Captain Marvel first... because I didn't know Captain Marvel was being released. It didn't show up on any of my social media, I guess, or I missed it if it did.

Similarly, I've missed new seasons of shows I cared about. No political ads - sometimes people refer to local ads in casual conversation and I'm mostly lost. Stuff like that.

It's sort of eye-opening to realize how much information is disseminated via ads/media. I mean, it's obvious in retrospect, right? But to experience it, well, it's something.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by namanyayg on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:49PM (#19913211)
I quit most social media a few months ago and have always blocked ads the best I could, and I completely agree. A sense of alienation is felt.

What's more, is that I "realize" that none of the things I was missing really matter. I do not care, at all, that I missed Captain marvel. Nor that I missed my favourite TV show -- I can always watch it later, if I really want to.

Seeing other people then care about such trivialities is a novel experience too.

Nowadays, the source of most of my pop culture current events is my SO. She applies her own hereustics, and (mostly) genuinelyy interesting pieces of info are what pass through her to me. She's getting it via top Instagram/Facebook/YouTube posts anyway. I find this system much better than the earlier one.

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Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dang on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:24AM (#19917117)
That's a personal attack and also breaks this guideline: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

Could you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of this site more to heart? This comment and the two or three previous ones you posted have been breaking it.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by la_barba on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:37PM (#19912470)
> At the same time, doesn't this feel a little like the advertisers are extorting us for some $$? Lest they jam more ads down your throat.

They wouldn't have succeeded in this extortion (online) if it wasn't for companies with billions of dollars hiring the smartest people in the world to enable advertisers to spy on people en-masse.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dorgo on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:00PM (#19913852)
Rest assured that advertisement works with and without spying. Spying just improves efficiency somewhat.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by treypitt on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @06:28PM (#19914444)
To supply a supporting anecdote: as a cis male, I'm consistently served ads for female-products like tampons on Instagram, presumably one of the "smartest" spies out there
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ahje on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @02:12AM (#19916846)
Same here, except it's for women's clothes...
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by germinalphrase on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:13PM (#19912861)
If AR becomes a reality, this will become all the more acute. Public advertising is currently limited by physical boundaries. Hyperreality [0] sets a clear vision for one possible future.

[0] https://vimeo.com/166807261?ref=em-share

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by eswat on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:43PM (#19913704)
When the GP mentioned Elysium I was also reminded of the live-action Ghost in the Shell movie with the AR ads similar to this video.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by michaelchisari on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:07PM (#19912797)
Someone has to pay for these services. Either we pay for them or advertisers do.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jeena on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:29PM (#19913580)
It's not like advertisers pay for the services from their own money. They 'basically' force you to buy the stuff which they advertise and take that money to pay the service.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by antepodius on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:41PM (#19912520)
Get an adblocker!
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by eswat on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:38PM (#19913646)
Works for your devices. Doesn’t work for the outside world.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dorgo on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:04PM (#19913887)
It took me years to train my brain to not read outdoor advertisement. I can't stop it from seeing/interpreting images, but I can successfully ignore text/letters which are less than a meter in size.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @12:14AM (#19916365)
Can't get one on chrome mobile. I know know...
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ulucs on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:36AM (#19917173)
Mobile Firefox has (almost?) full add-on parity with the desktop version. I don't know what I'd do without uBlock0 everywhere
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @04:43AM (#19917469)
Yes, you can. You can use a different browser such as Mozilla Firefox, or use DNS-based blocking such as Pi-Hole. I use both of these, and use WireGuard to reach my Pi-Hole. If I have a network connection, I have an adblocker.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:07AM (#19917598)
>You can use a different browser such as Mozilla

I just really like Google fast search by selecting. Can't live without it.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @05:35AM (#19917736)
Sounds like a horrible feature. Selecting data makes you Google it? What if you copy/paste a password. Vimium does it right for me, but requires physical keyboard.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by HNLurker2 on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @06:03AM (#19917874)
It's that thing on mobile that we have: instant search.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Fnoord on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @06:26AM (#19918000)
Selecting text in my world is either copying text, or selecting text. Not searching for that text on a search engine. That shouldn't be the default (most common) keybind.

Anyway, you can still use DNS-based (with or without VPN) filtering.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Hermandw on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:22AM (#19917113)
You can get ad free mobile browsers like Ghostery browser.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by yogenpro on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:37PM (#19913644)
There is "Google Contributor" [1].

The idea is basically that you pay the publisher out of your own pocket for their ad space, to buy your own impression. This might be a great product if it covers the majority of ad inventories...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Contributor

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by captn3m0 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:51PM (#19912638)
Bangalore blocked all billboards recently. Different reasons, but similar effect.

It is like the whole city is on Adblock.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Scottopherson on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:07PM (#19912104)
I've been enjoying YouTube Red/Premium for about a year and a half but I'm kind of considering cancelling it to go back to using an adblocker for YouTube's embedded ads and supporting specific creators via Patreon or something. The majority of the channels I watch embed their own ad-reads into their videos now so the ad-free value proposition for Premium is getting much weaker for me.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jeena on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:35PM (#19913627)
I was considering it too and I don't understand why Google doesn't force the creators to mark up when the ads start and end so it could just jump over them for people who pay YouTube Premium to specifically get rid of ads. People like us will stop paying go with a adblocker.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by mguerville on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:37PM (#19912465)
I just cancelled mine and let me tell you, the added 10 to 30 seconds of ads before the video starts are already bugging me a lot.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by antepodius on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:42PM (#19912530)
Is there any particular reason you're not using an adblocker?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by jeromegv on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:05PM (#19912779)
If you watch lots of Youtube with the iPad/iPhone apps, there wouldn't be any adblocker for that.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by SHAKEDECADE on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @09:19AM (#19919077)
adblock for IOS can block all types of stuff. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/adblock/id691121579 They also make an app called webblock which nice but less powerful.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by noir_lord on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:32PM (#19913046)
Adguard works if you watch in Safari.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by reificator on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:13PM (#19912188)
I cancelled my Google Play Music family subscription (of which I was the only user at that point) and then signed up for a normal subscription. Didn't realize doing so lost my bundled Youtube Red subscription in the process. Started getting midroll ads on YouTube on my phone and couldn't figure out why...
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by greyfox on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:38PM (#19912473)
you might look into using youtube vanced
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by noir_lord on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:29PM (#19913011)
NewPipe is awesome as well (and you can download) and since it pretends to be a browser its got some neat features, it's in the FDroid store.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by Kiro on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @03:59AM (#19917263)
As someone who only uses YouTube for music I'm glad that embedded ads are not a thing for music channels. YouTube Premium is worth a thousand times more than any Spotify subscription.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by pickdenis on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:13PM (#19912186)
> what avenues would advertisers have left to sell products to us?

My serious guess would be even more paid shills. It's amazing how much more weight a message can have when it comes from someone that's not obviously tied to the company.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by switchbak on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:17PM (#19912232)
My skepticism level is now of epic proportions when I see someone recommending products online. Louis Rossmann is one notable exception, but far too rare.

These days I usually just type "reviews for XXX reddit", but even that isn't a sure thing anymore.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by pault on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:22PM (#19912276)
Just one of the many things SEO has ruined. Searching "x reviews" for any x is completely worthless at best, actively hostile at worst.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by layoutIfNeeded on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:21PM (#19912946)
The trick is to look for negative reviews first.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by rchaud on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:27PM (#19913568)
Yup, I do the "[search query] + reddit" in my searches as well. Just including the phrase on its own brings up a ton of garbage sites with reviews written by content marketing people for SEO purposes as opposed a 3-4 line Reddit comment.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by crazypyro on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:23PM (#19913527)
I use reddit for all kinds of suggestions. It's definitely getting harder and it also helps to be in the target demographic of reddit.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by aiilnns on Wednesday May 15, 2019 @09:52AM (#19919354)
> What if we could have cities outlaw advertising on billboards and instead collect a small tax to make up for the lost revenue

To me there is something seriously wrong with this way of thought. Why would we collect a small tax to make up for businesses' lost profit? It sounds, to me, downright bizarre, like saying forcing factories to be more environmentally friendly would cost money to the business and cut profits so we should take that money from the taxpayers. Wow.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by thomasahle on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:14PM (#19912195)
> if we could have cities outlaw advertising on billboards and instead collect a small tax to make up for the lost revenue, how much would our quality of life increase?

Ideally decisions would instead be made based on unbiased reviews and rational decision making.

Hopefully the lack of advertising would relieve us from unconscious decision fatigue and free up our energy for other parts of life.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dwiel on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:52PM (#19912661)
We have a ban on billboards in our town in Indiana of all places, its definitely possible. It is nice as well, I always forget how annoying they are until I travel to other cities.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by btbuildem on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:11PM (#19912834)
I think it would create a sort of a monopoly -- the municipal taxes paying the ad-free tithe. I imagine corruption and backroom deals would result in that cost going up and up over time.

A better solution would be to outlaw ads / billboards, and ticket the offenders to offset the lost income from billboards etc. Municipalities love new revenue streams.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by FiatLuxDave on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:41PM (#19913141)
Instead of banning a particular avenue of advertising, which moves the advertising spend to somewhere else, why not have a broad-based tax on advertising spending?

We've seen how ineffective things like banning advertising to children were on reducing smoking, while raising taxes on cigarettes was quite effective at reducing smoking levels. And some advertising is useful. I don't need no advertising in my life, I just need less of it. Taxes would reduce the "arm's race" effect where companies need to advertise because their competitors are advertising. I suspect that the quality of advertising would go up if it were more expensive, as well.

Perhaps at some point in the future, we will have too little advertising and there will need to be a debate on how we should reduce the advertising tax. I long for this day.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ACow_Adonis on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @07:28PM (#19914864)
But smoking rates have been dropping, and the tobacco companies certainly put up a huge fight here in Aus when we tried to enforce plain packaging on cigarettes, so they're spending an awful lot of resources on fighting something that 'doesn't work'...(hint: it does)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ducttape12 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @02:22PM (#19912286)
If you're not a fan of blocking ads, DuckDuckGo let's you disable ads in their search results.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dorgo on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:10PM (#19913926)
what is the difference between blocking and disabling? The result is the same, right?
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by ducttape12 on Thursday May 16, 2019 @09:26PM (#19935286)
Yes, just without the guilt (since this means DDG is clearly okay with not making ad revenue off me)
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by heavymark on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @04:47PM (#19913740)
That world exists with ad blockers. Was viewing a friend's computer who didn't have an ad blocker installed and almost forgot what it had been like to see ads plastered everywhere online.
Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by dorgo on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @05:27PM (#19914056)
> what avenues would advertisers have left to sell products to us?

Maybe pay me some money for my attention? In exchange you get all the data from me: how much money I spend on X. How often I do Y. Whatever helps you sell your product to me. If you succeed and I like your ad or buy your product, the ad is for free. Otherwise you pay me some €/$/coins.

Re:Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a ... by scarface74 on Tuesday May 14, 2019 @03:47PM (#19913190)
Ad blockers effectively block Google ads on desktops and iOS - including third party apps like Feedly that use the SafariViewController.