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Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by dougmwne on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:10AM (#39453338)
Technology has gone absurd, surely. But that absurdity is not yet evenly distributed. I was in Best Buy the other day and there was a distinct lack of bizarre AI gadgets like mirrors that make you look like a cartoon sloth or speakers that respond in iambic pentameter.

Clearly as an industry we need to get these new products on shelves for the masses.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by pavlov on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:20AM (#39453418)
> "mirrors that make you look like a cartoon sloth"

Isn't that kind of selfie modification stuff, like, 50% of the appeal of Snapchat?

It's not a physical product, but that makes it more culturally significant IMO. A mirror is viewed only by you, but manipulating your broadcasted image speaks of how you want to be seen in society.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by dartos on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:37AM (#39453582)
Don’t tell the AI bros that we’ve had filters that don’t replace your face for years.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:50AM (#39453744)
Also the other kind, which are arguably more popular.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by BerislavLopac on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:12AM (#39453358)
> speakers that respond in iambic pentameter

:shut-up-and-take-my-money.gif:

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by ben_w on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:24AM (#39453457)
This is very much in the realm of something ChatGPT can write for you, just so long as you tell it how the OpenAI APIs work because those were published after the training cut-off.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by BerislavLopac on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:29AM (#39453499)
I need a speaker that would respond with the dialogue trained on Marvin the Paranoid Android.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:52AM (#39453776)
I need a self-help mirror that would respond like Chrisjen Avasarala, so that there's at least one adult in the room.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by vunderba on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:07AM (#39454698)
Anura is working on something vaguely similar.

From the ad copy: The Anura MagicMirror, made by digital health company NuraLogix, is the first mirror of its kind that analyzes the blood flow in your face to check vitals like blood pressure and estimate your risk of heart disease. It also guesses your age based on your skin, as well as how stressed you might be.

https://www.cnet.com/health/medical/this-smart-mirror-scans-...

If one of the wake-up word options isn't "Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" I'm going to be disappointed.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by dougmwne on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:23AM (#39455791)
Pull yourself the fuck together!
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by ben_w on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:05AM (#39453936)
"Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the sweariest anti-hero of them all"
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:58AM (#39456312)
"Who the fuck cares, get back to your goddamn work!"
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by bitwize on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:36AM (#39453572)
Shut UP and TAKE my MOney DOT jPEG
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by Symbiote on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:42AM (#39453646)
:be-quiet-and-take-my-cash-good-sir.gif:

[Note for those who weren't required to study Shakespeare at school: that's iambic pentameter.]

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by genmon on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:45AM (#39453688)
(Blog author here) I mean, I'm making a clock that tells the time with rhyming couplets haha* -- I'll do my best to get it into Best Buy, and work on the mirror next!

But you are absolutely right. We should be having way more fun with our technology!

* obligatory plug, here's the clock: https://poem.town/ks

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by hiatus on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:51AM (#39453758)
Cool idea. Reminds me of the author clock https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1195310640/author-clock...
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by jkestner on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:21AM (#39454142)
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by xnzakg on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:43AM (#39454405)
You just linked to GP's kickstarter.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by jkestner on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:28AM (#39454970)
You can tell I read HN for the comments. Embarrassing!
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by genmon on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:15AM (#39454802)
I love that project! And also that they did so well.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by dougmwne on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:52AM (#39454529)
As cool as your clock is, it would be even cooler if it printed the poems out on ticker tape:) And hey, recurring revenue stream!
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by Der_Einzige on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:26AM (#39454939)
Shameless self plug, but in order to guarantee rhyming, you might want to read this paper:

https://paperswithcode.com/paper/most-language-models-can-be...

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by grotorea on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:20AM (#39455747)
This sort of long tail weird stuff belongs in AliExpress or similars.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by andraz on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:16AM (#39453389)
You need to study Stanislaw Lem if you want a glimpse into the future... in Cyberiad he invented the Electronic Bard whose description is uncannily close to chatgpt. Including the poets losing jobs and protesting.

And more... Adams is kind of more approachable version of Lem.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by btbuildem on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:41AM (#39453640)
They both had the amazing ability to talk about human nature, and project it into the future through the lens of technology. Lem was such a prolific writer though, I don't know if there are any books of his I would not recommend (except maybe his last works, incredibly dense compedia of abstraction)
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by thanatos519 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:51AM (#39453761)
I am currently reading everything by Lem and indeed the Electronic Bard popped out as prophetic!
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rootbear on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:30AM (#39454247)
When I first heard the original HHGttG radio plays, I was sure Adams must have read Lem.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by mproud on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @07:58AM (#39453215)
All these cursors moving around the page, sometimes highlighting text… was way too distracting. Thank goodness for Reader Mode.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by hoherd on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:12AM (#39453357)
It wouldn't surprise me if this were his way of highlighting how JavaScript does user-hostile things. This site uses JS only to irritate the user, but other sites' JS might be malicious.

I still hate it though. I'm not disabling JavaScript. Reader mode saves the day.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by sidewndr46 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:14AM (#39453373)
Well that is an interesting way to filter your audience. Select for your user base by adding Javascript which only serves to make the page unusable. But make sure the page is perfectly usable without it enabled.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by JoshGG on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:10AM (#39453332)
I don’t understand what the cursors and highlights are supposed to show us.

Maybe they could just put in flashing text plus a flashing background plus a microwave attack on the reader.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by jvanderbot on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:16AM (#39453393)
The only highlights I saw were links.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by trescenzi on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:27AM (#39453483)
Presumably it’s live mouse locations of others on the site with flags of their country right? Didn’t look at the inspector to see if they were real but it’s a neat idea. Wildly distracting and weird but neat.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by chasd00 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:07AM (#39453963)
> Maybe they could just put in flashing text plus a flashing background plus a microwave attack on the reader.

And a fast moving image where if you click on it you get a prize. Call it punch the chimp or something..

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by vunderba on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:10AM (#39454742)
Just from a cursory (ha) glance, I see Websockets in dev console. Wouldn't be surprised if this is other viewers on the page.

EDIT: It's a web component on the page that does exactly this.

https://github.com/partykit/sketch-disco

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by genmon on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:19AM (#39454847)
Author here

Good find! That's a slightly older version that I'm moving. Here's a better version, complete with instructions on how to embed it in your own site

https://github.com/genmon/interconnected-cursor-party

It's a fork of the upstream PartyKit versions (I've added shared text highlights)

https://github.com/partykit/cursor-party

PartyKit is genuinely the best way to build real-time super scalable apps in very little code, multiplayer included. I have a contract here rn but I was a fan and user first. It's my go-to for most projects now:

https://www.partykit.io

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by baobabKoodaa on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @12:12PM (#39456521)
Please don't do this! I want to read your article but I can't stand to look at it with all these flags and cursors.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by millzlane on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:01AM (#39453255)
It was the lines and colors for me.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by penjelly on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:42AM (#39453644)
ya this made it unreadable for me.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by omgmajk on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:51AM (#39453754)
I see this stuff more and more, maybe like four times in the last week just from links I have clicked from the HN frontpage. Other visitors, doing their thing. I really dislike it.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by coldpie on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:09AM (#39453981)
Install NoScript. Makes the web way better. All that cutesy JS crap is disabled by default, and for badly written websites that require JS, you can go whitelist just enough to get the page functional.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by DaSHacka on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:03AM (#39455480)
You can do this in uBlock Origin too, saves needing to install another extension (as I assume most of us already have it installed)
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by grotorea on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:21AM (#39455767)
It's like the view counter from the early web updated for the 2020s, what's not to like?
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by lizardking on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:30AM (#39455886)
1990's web was a whacky place
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by MomoXenosaga on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:53PM (#39459405)
Whenever someone on HN starts whining how the internet used to be better I just mutter "pop ups".

Someone invented ad blockers for a reason 25 or so years ago.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by ask5531 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:52AM (#39453768)
throwback to 2000 and angelfire
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by crtasm on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:54AM (#39453806)
I'm disappointed this feature doesn't load for me in Firefox.

The / key also conflicts with its quick-search feature.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:01AM (#39453896)
What cursors? I don't see anything on Firefox, even on Windows, with uBlock Origin turned off.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by randomsolutions on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:46AM (#39454447)
I think it is awesome. Definitely glad every page isn't like this, but it is cool, and goes with the vibe of the blog.

Unfortunately leaving the tab and returning seems to make it crash. But I'll take this over another striver blog.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by jl6 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:29AM (#39453504)
I always thought Dune’s Butlerian Jihad was one of the more fantastical elements of the story, but now it’s probably one of the more realistic.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by SideburnsOfDoom on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:39AM (#39453604)
You have to read the text carefully:

"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."

Emphasis added. Not an AI Skynet takeover, but a tech-oligarch takeover. It's increasingly not fictional.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rcarmo on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:57AM (#39453851)
Yep. The Butlerian Jihad as depicted in post-Dune books (namely Frank Herbert's son's) was more dystopian, but far less insightful.

Of course, we're probably safe while these things lack agency (although the ability of agency and hype human VCs already generate behind some of the current AI landscape can be pretty scary).

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by marcosdumay on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:41AM (#39455141)
Following the orders of their powerful master against you does not require agency at all.

LLMs are very transparent, what makes them safe, but other forms of AI are already being used to capture the public's mind.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by SideburnsOfDoom on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:50AM (#39455279)
The prohibition after the Butlerian Jihad was "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."

Emphasis added. Not "Thou shalt not make a machine mind". You have to read the text carefully.

A portrait of a person is a likeness of a person; but is not a person or even on the way to being one. Even a cartoon can contain a "likeness" if you recognise the person parodied in it.

I do not regard chatGPT and LLMs as "having a mind" at all or even being on the way to having one. But a likeness, an imitation, a mockery, a parody of a mind, yes that fits.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by throwawaaarrgh on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:19AM (#39454116)
What would you consider agency? The machines already decide for themselves what something is or isn't, and then tell a human, who might believe it or not. It's not really different than if a human made something up and told their superior.

Here's a case where we often just trust the machine, and how that ends up going: https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-algorithm...

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rcarmo on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:26AM (#39454203)
The machines do not currently go off on their own and search for stuff. Humans ask them to, explicitly or not.

There are no real independent AI agents out there right now (or if there are, well, maybe they're lurking in this thread. Douglas would have loved that).

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by SideburnsOfDoom on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:40AM (#39456042)
> The machines already decide for themselves what something is or isn't,

if making choices (badly) is agency, then a random number generator has agency.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by SideburnsOfDoom on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:15AM (#39454053)
> as depicted in post-Dune books (namely Frank Herbert's son's)

You're mistaken, there are only 6 Dune books, all by Frank Herbert himself.

I'm joking, but not joking.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rcarmo on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:27AM (#39454208)
I see what you did there. Hence my use of "post".
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by saati on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @06:01PM (#39460848)
There is the Encyclopedia too.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by SideburnsOfDoom on Thursday February 22, 2024 @02:53AM (#39464397)
My apologies, that should read "there are only 6 Dune novels" to be pedantic.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by 6510 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:18PM (#39458930)
the king is dead, long live the king?
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rusk on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:22AM (#39453442)
Radiohead called it back in 95. Every now and again I find myself muttering ”Planet Telex” (everything is broken)
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by genmon on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:39AM (#39453601)
Blog author here

The multiplayer cursors are an experiment in ambient togetherness on the web...

...and what I'm learning is that ambient togetherness really doesn't scale to 500 simultaneous readers!

Please use Reader Mode for calmness, and apologies for the noise. I'll work on adding a toggle to turn them off.

btw you may be interested in the code, which you can use/fork:

https://github.com/genmon/interconnected-cursor-party

My blog is a static site, and real-time multiplayer is handled by a small app written with PartyKit (which I am super into).

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by nicholassmith on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:54AM (#39453805)
I actually quite like it as a reminder of the gentle chaos of the early web before the vibe shift to homogenous design.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by mdrzn on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:52AM (#39454522)
I've spent at least 15 minutes playing with the cursor and other people on the page before even reading the article. Much fun.

edit: //////////////////////////////

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by alisonatwork on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:00AM (#39453876)
I love the cursors and already knew what everyone was commenting about without clicking through because I think another post was shared from your site a few days ago which has led to this comment thread feeling like déjà vu.

I suppose instead of showing all other users you could hash the other users into buckets and only show one from each bucket.

It'd be cool if the number of cursors could somehow scale based on the part of the text being read, same way as bullet text on Bilibili appears to increase and decrease to match the impact of what is happening in the video, but that might be tough to do without also changing the way that writing is presented online.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by aceazzameen on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:29AM (#39454235)
I love the absurdity of it all. It makes it a unique website/blog in the ocean of sameness.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by genmon on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:24AM (#39454915)
It's gone full circle. People here are commenting that the multiplayer cursors are user hostile. tbh I agree... I need to build an off switch, or at least a volume dial...

Meanwhile folks on the blog have discovered the cursor chat Easter Egg: you can hit "/" on desktop to start chatting with everyone else there.

I just screen grabbed two cursors saying the opposite to the original opinion:

> article is distracting lol

> just use inspector 2 delete article

This is hilarious chaos.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by mdrzn on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:28AM (#39454973)
> article is distracting lol

This was me! I hope you're logging the messages being sent lol

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by hsuduebc2 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:00AM (#39453871)
Love the idea. Good job!
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by dreadlordbone on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:35AM (#39454299)
i love it, makes me feel like im at a party
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by genmon on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:21AM (#39454876)
that is exactly it! when you spend time on the web, there is zero way to know that the site you're on is being mobbed right now. it's so socially impoverished

I know that multiplayer cursors aren't the best way to show that, but it's a start!

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by mdrzn on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:28AM (#39454967)
I agree with the feeling and while chatting with others on the page we both felt the need to have an extension or something to be able to activate this "feature" on any website. Makes it feel like you're not alone on a website.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by throwanem on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:41AM (#39453643)
The superficiality of the analysis is disappointing, especially when there's so much more in Adams' oeuvre which could be seen to speak to the modern state of the industry - Bureaucracy, for example, his 1987 collaboration with Infocom.

Granted, the blog appears to be written by someone who's failed to attend the pervasive bleakness of technology's presentation even in Hitchhiker's itself. In that light, I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect much here. But in any case, there's much fertile ground left unturned.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by millzlane on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:01AM (#39453249)
I remember watching an old video where Michio Kaku briefly talked about when mankind would destroy itself. This post reminds me that we are transitioning into a new type of civilization or like Kaku said, We may already be there.

https://youtu.be/7NPC47qMJVg?si=madgKRlmUVYb2iMv [5:53]

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by SideburnsOfDoom on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:37AM (#39453580)
> someone should make a dating app where an LLM clone of you goes on thousands of dates with LLM clones of other people, and then your matches are when the LLMs decide to date each other

An episode of Black Mirror was pretty much this. The episode titled "Hang the DJ"

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by chasd00 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:12AM (#39454009)
That’s pretty funny. There’s a lot of humor potential in LLMs and their interactions. On a tangent I wonder how much comedians are using them to create new material.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by amelius on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:10PM (#39457301)
LLMS are good at interpolating between existing things, not at inventing new things.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by amelius on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:46AM (#39453701)
Can't they just build a classifier based on DNA?
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by acdha on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:03AM (#39453914)
They could but humans are rather famously more than our DNA: our children take so long to raise because our brains are far more complex and adaptable than animals, and much of what people find attractive is due to your environment and choices.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by amelius on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:07PM (#39457266)
Are you sure about that? I'm guessing people are at least for 50% attracted towards the innate biological traits like body-scent, physical build, etc. Things you could get out of a DNA based classifier. And even if it does not provide 100% matches, it still makes the search easier.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by acdha on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @02:16PM (#39458179)
Genes don’t tell you about someone’s nutrition and fitness level, and it especially won’t tell you about the things most people value in a partner like their personality, values, sense of humor, etc. Even someone looking for a one-time hookup is usually going to be looking for at least a few of those characteristics if for no reason other than building trust that they’ll enjoy the experience.

There’s one known factor which genes can tell you (MHC complex compatibility) but studies have been mixed on that and researchers have found fewer matches in married couples than a simplistic theory would suggest:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_histocompatibility_compl...

Again, my point is simply that humans are not field mice. Our flexible brains are what make us human and you’re not going to be successful trying to build any model which doesn’t assume that.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by TehCorwiz on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:08AM (#39453320)
I love the cursors! It’s 1992s idea of cyberpunk. It’s so chaotic and distracting. It’s like trying to read a newspaper on a windy day. Maybe that’s the point? Don’t know but it has real nostalgic geocities vibes.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by anfragment on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:15AM (#39453386)
What’s up with HN these days? The cursors are awesome! Don’t like them? Just quit reading the article…
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by tiborsaas on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:18AM (#39454095)
If you add more than 10 lines of CSS to your page, someone will complain about the design.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by anfragment on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:53AM (#39456223)
Definitely feels like it. I frequently see people here complaining about how everything has the same boring, homogenous corporate look now, but anything interesting and original gets critiqued for lacking "visual clarity". These might be two different camps, sure, but it's sometimes sad to see the quality of discussion here.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by MomoXenosaga on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @04:15PM (#39459657)
I specifically use extensions to nuke web design and make the internet readable- which is the point of a blog.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by alisonatwork on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:41AM (#39453639)
I had the same experience first time I saw 弹幕 (dàn mù) aka "bullet screen" on Chinese video websites like Bilibili. If you haven't seen it before, it's like user-added subtitles that go flying across the screen while the video is playing, and in parts of the video where more users commented, more subtitles appear. In the most climactic scenes the screen gets so filled up with text that you can't see the video any more, and somehow that makes the scene even more epic. The future is now, chummer!
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by luckydata on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @07:58AM (#39453221)
The JavaScript that shows mouse pointers from other readers is probably the most annoying thing I’ve ever seen on any websites and made the reading experience a total nightmare
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by myspy on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:07AM (#39453308)
The reading experience is awful, but it's fun to see where other people come from and how we cursor each other :D
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by prepend on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:09AM (#39453324)
It would be a fun “check this out” feature.

But it’s horrible UX.

I understand the design decision though as seems like a fun hack to include. Especially when there’s probably only 1-4 other people on there. So I expect to the author it’s usually just cool to see someone else is there reading with you and not the current level of distraction.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by doktrin on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:11AM (#39453349)
This is one of the single most offputting novelty features ever. It's straight out of those of those collaborative canvas applications, but at least there it serves a legitimate function.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by sumtechguy on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:32AM (#39453533)
You are not wrong. But it also reminds me that the early web was full of things like this. Where everyone was just kind of playing around. Doing fun things. Not all of them worked. In fact most of them were terrible. But now many web pages are fairly sterile full of ads and looking for a buyout of some VC benefactor. That GeoCities/Myspace style of internet can be fun. Crazy off-putting and 'my eyes are bleeding', but fun.

wow... i am grumpy today :)

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by noSyncCloud on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:51AM (#39453762)
Now imagine what websites are tracking that they don't show you.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by lasereyes136 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:48AM (#39453723)
The dating AIs are covered in the Black Mirror Episode "Hang the DJ". I can't remember what season it was in.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rcarmo on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:54AM (#39453813)
Serendipitously, electricmonk is the host name for one of my Azure Open AI endpoints.

But yes, as someone who devoured Douglas' books and has often been blamed for using the same kind of (but immeasurably less brilliant) nonsensical humor, I am fully on board with the article's premise.

There is a sense of almost cartoonish familiarity towards some of the things people are coming up with, and only the other day I hacked together a small endpoint that enables Siri to craft personal insults based on my own health and exercise data.

Fun times indeed.

---Edit:---

In case anyone wants to start a VC-funded health counsellor service, I've sanitised the prompt (and removed the insult suggestions) and pasted it here:

var prompt = ` You are a fitness coach. You will be given a set of dates and weight measurements (in kg) plus a set of dates and exercise minutes, and you are to reply with a single sentence to describe how much weight I lost or gained during that time and correlate that with exercise. You should mention overall trends in weight or exercise and the exact amount of weight lost or gained.

Never mention specific dates. Say "week" or "past few days" or "past N days" whenever possible. You are to be as succint as possible. Avoid citing sources, just the facts. Use very short sentences. Be very British and polite.

Example replies:

You lost 1 kg this week thanks to an average 45 exercise minutes a day

You gained 0.5 kg because you didn't exercise enough for two days

You should try to exercise 60 minutes a day to lose 1kg this week `

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by etrautmann on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:42AM (#39454401)
Great idea - but thinking about weight loss in terms of exercise only ignores eating, which is arguably a bigger piece and somewhat hard to capture by a virtual coach, though I’m sure something might work!
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rcarmo on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:44AM (#39454419)
Yes, but it is the data I had on hand. I don't log what I eat (although I am careful), and I know I need to be cajoled into doing more exercise, so I just toss in weight and exercise minutes scraped off the Health app via a shortcut.

In short, I don't want a perfect solution--I want something to nag me, and nothing better than AI to do that in this day and age (and yes, I'm married...).

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by drewcoo on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @12:18PM (#39456603)
> immeasurably less brilliant

Well if that's not a humblebrag . . .

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by 999900000999 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:54AM (#39453814)
What type of user hostile website is this.

Can someone just post the text.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by genmon on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:59AM (#39453868)
Blog author here. Here's the Markdown.

https://interconnected.org/home/2024/02/15/galactic-compass....

Sorry for all the noise! It's kinda fun with 2 or 3 simultaneous readers. With 500... well, I'll be building an off switch next.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by randomsolutions on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:56AM (#39454567)
Don't listen to them this is awesome.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by mdrzn on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:08AM (#39454705)
It was fun even with dozens (or hundreds)!
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rantallion on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:44AM (#39454420)
How about off being the default?
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by nehal3m on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:04AM (#39454652)
Not absurd enough.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by harywilke on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:30AM (#39454240)
just use firefox.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by user982 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @08:59AM (#39453858)

  The machine was rather difficult to operate. For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the controls were made touch-sensitive - you merely had to brush the panels with your fingers; now all you had to do was wave your hand in the general direction of the components and hope. It saved a lot of muscular expenditure, of course, but meant that you had to sit infuriatingly still if you wanted to keep listening to the same program.
  
  — The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by Anotheroneagain on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:36AM (#39455078)
Prophetic.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by Lio on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:04AM (#39453925)
There's one bit of Douglas Adams tech that fits closely with this:

The Nutrimatic Drinks Dispenser[1], which dispenses something almost, but not quite entirely, unlike tea[2].

Reminds me of some of the code I've got from ChatGPT that almost, but not quite entirely, doesn't work. :P

1. https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Nutrimatic_Drinks_Dispen...

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAswvg60FnY

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by SwiftyBug on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:11AM (#39454748)
Also this: https://bevi.co/
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by lazycog512 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:34AM (#39454294)
share and enjoy
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by timdiggerm on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:42AM (#39454393)
I feel like the author has missed the part where part of the point of Adams' absurd technology is that it kind of all sucks. He spends a lot of time making fun of the doors that have feelings, etc.

EDIT: After reading the comments and re-reading the blog, I agree. He gets it. Never mind.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by curiousllama on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:44AM (#39454421)
No, with that background (maybe just on desktop?), I think they totally get it
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by rcarmo on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:48AM (#39454471)
This. Yes, they completely and utterly get it. That is the genius behind casting AI in this light.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by greenpresident on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:52AM (#39454524)
How much are people typically tipping ChatGPT these days?
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by data-ottawa on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:55AM (#39454560)
Unironically, GPT will work harder for tips, even if you can't actually pay it.

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/chatgpt-will-pr...

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by vunderba on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:05AM (#39454666)
There seems to be at least some evidence that using gimmicks like "tipping" can actually harm performance:

https://aider.chat/docs/unified-diffs.html

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by data-ottawa on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:34AM (#39480373)
I did not know that, I'd only seen the article and others like I linked.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by codeulike on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @09:58AM (#39454595)
We're actually in the Celery Man Timeline since Sora

(ref: 14 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maAFcEU6atk )

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by dylan604 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:06AM (#39454678)
I like how we're trying to make our way towards the food prep where it just makes whatever you're thinking. Before we get there, we have to get to the more mundane where it just cooks what you choose for you. There's a recent meal delivery service that has a not-a-microwave-not-a-toaster-oven that scans a QR code and. heats up your premade food. We've made the Swanson TV dinner high tech adjacent
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by SwiftyBug on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:09AM (#39454729)
The other day I read something about OpenAI's Sora being revolutionary due to its capability of simulating the world and interactions of things therein with astounding accuracy. That's when it hit me: OpenAI is building the Infinite Improbability Drive.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by catapart on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:30AM (#39454999)
I'm all for this! My username is a bastardization of an Adams quote[1], because I've always been appreciative of his perspective. It was so truly unique that every aspiration to its whimsical and comprehensive majesty feels futile in the way that the mindset would naturally ignore as irrelevant to the pursuit. And if that word-salad didn't make it obvious: I was also a keen admirer of his ability to use words to explain concepts, without sounding like a pedantic lunatic.

Truly a fantastic human, and an assuring figure for the species to be moving towards, in my opinion!

[1] "If you try and take a cat apart to see how it works, the first thing you have on your hands is a non-working cat."

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by twojobsoneboss on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:31AM (#39455004)
I thought he meant Scott Adams (Dilbert) and dare I say that would be more on point
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by MillironX on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:35AM (#39455059)
In his book The Universe Next Door[1], James Sire hypothesizes a natural progression of philosophies from theism -> naturalism -> nihilism. He provides Star Trek as an example of naturalist literature, and Adam's works as examples of nihilist works.

If we are truly moving from Star Trek tech to Hitchhiker's tech, then that might indicate a broader philosophical shift in line with Sire's hypothesis.

[1]: https://search.worldcat.org/title/424558138

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by greesil on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:41AM (#39455137)
It's more like red dwarf. Ruined planets and talking toasters.
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by punyearthling on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:44AM (#39455201)
i hate the background of this website
Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by WalterBright on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:54AM (#39455345)
> Other sci-fi has had outsized impact too: tablets and video calls in Kubrick’s 2001 for instance.

"The Jetsons" had video calls earlier than 2001. In fact, a lot of predictions made in the Jetsons have come to pass.

Re:Tech has graduated from the Star Trek era to the Douglas ... by effingwewt on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @11:15AM (#39455662)
Good point. Could be nice if the origins of things could be traced.

Especially quotes since the big thing became a random quote against a black and white photo of a random famous person,so proper attribution is near impossible.