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Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by paxy on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:24PM (#50373356)
People coming up with these tech use cases live in a reality where price sensitivity isn't a thing.

"You can call an Uber with a voice command"

"You can ask alexa to buy you things"

"Your AI will order food for you"

Seem like magical ideas that will remove friction and increase sales. Except that regular people compare 13 different options to pick the cheapest one.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by CamperBob2 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:30PM (#50373402)
What freaks me out is the canonical "AI planned my entire vacation itinerary" example. I don't think I ever pay as much attention to anything in life as I do when I'm picking flights and hotels. Travel plans will be the very last thing I farm out to AI.

I'm fine delegating my programming work to a clanker, even accounting, but come on. The clanker isn't going to have to deal with the consequences of booking $40,000 airplane trips to hotels full of bedbugs.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by kbelder on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:41PM (#50373489)
I see that a lot, and it's mind-boggling. If someone says "AI planned my vacation", I give it roughly:

     95% chance they're lying
    4.5% chance they're that foolish
    0.5% chance they're so rich they don't care.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by bluefirebrand on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:55PM (#50373605)
If people are that rich don't they just have a person to plan that shit for them?
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by ghaff on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:48AM (#50376794)
People don't, in general, plan my trips for me but I do long distance walking trips in areas where it's useful to have some specialist on-the-ground knowlege so I use companies that specialize in that sort of thing. Book my own air and urban hotels though.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by mindwok on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:04PM (#50373691)
I use AI extensively in my trips. It’s not that I literally prompt ChatGPT and then walk away while it books everything. It’s just a search engine on steroids that I use to generate ideas and collate options until I choose the things I want.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by zdragnar on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:31PM (#50373898)
That's very much not "AI planned my vacation"
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by mrheosuper on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:51PM (#50374520)
Does "I'm going to visit X city, show me a list of interesting place prepare me a schedule to visit them for X days" fit ? Because that's what i'm doing.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by zdragnar on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:58PM (#50374582)
I think in the context of kbelder's original comment, it refers more to people having AI do the actual booking / handling payments, though I'd say you're getting there if you're having it pick out places for you. At that point you're just risking your time, not your wallet, which is easier to believe.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by mrheosuper on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:49PM (#50374926)
I read "Planning" as it will show me a plan, the decision to follow it or not is mine, not it will handle all the process (booking, purchasing).
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Joakal on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:35PM (#50373938)
I used AI to plan out my vacation. It helpfully suggested some improvements too

I certainly did not have AI do the bookings for my vacation though. Is that what you meant?

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by refactor_master on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:45PM (#50374020)
People use AI whether they believe it or not. Think you found a hidden deal, and hidden cheap flight, leading you to a hidden matcha cafe with a hidden view? Think again! The booking company which is owned by a booking company which is owned by a booking company wanted you to find it.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Marsymars on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:41PM (#50374444)
I’ve found plenty of hidden things by just wandering around in the real world - I’d bet most of them weren’t pushed by AI.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by solyin on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:33PM (#50374394)
Or it's a bit for the 'gram. Influencer Tech.unicorn gave AI a budget and asked it to make her birthday special. https://www.instagram.com/p/Dej2T6PmzwX/
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Daneel_ on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:38PM (#50375255)
Do you mean planning, or do you mean booking? Those are two very different things.

I use AI to plan stuff all the time, but then I book it all myself.

Planning != booking.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by dathinab on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:45AM (#50376772)
planned & booked are not the same, I fear my sister very much has planned any vacation she did in recent times with AI. Just not booked it that way. And also planned doesn't mean no human in the loop, either.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by spunker540 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:34PM (#50373932)
I use it extensively once im at a destination to generate ideas for where to go and what to see based on my interests and likes and dislikes, e.g "I'm in X city for the next 3 days, and I enjoy hiking and wwii history, what are some things to do?" "my mother in law and wife want to take a daytrip in region X, whats a good day plan given my MIL cant walk or hike far and my wife wants to take photos of scenic views?" I've gotten some great off-the-beaten-path suggestions this way.

But yeah im not using to book flights or hotels.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by paganel on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:53AM (#50376372)
That's how most of us use AI for planning vacations, i.e. as a (better, by this point) replacement for Google Search.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by dathinab on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:44AM (#50376759)
and to create bullet lists about what they (probably) need to pack

(reusing bullets lists you carefully handcrafted for yourself would probably be better but that is another topic)

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by iron_albatross on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:39PM (#50373468)
Couldn’t the agent do the comparison for you? And couldn’t you give it more complex constraints? E.g. instead of saying “order an uber to the airport”, you’d say “order a rideshare to the airport if it’s under $40 and less than a 10 minute wait”
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by devmor on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:02PM (#50373663)
> Thinking... The user told me to stick to a $40 maximum. I need to determine if that's a hard limit or a suggestion. Perhaps the user is doing price comparison for an exercise. I'll order 3 different ubers and let the user decide which to board when they arrive. They said a $40 limit, but that's just for the ride - I shouldn't factor in the cancellation fees.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by compiler-guy on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:27PM (#50373870)
By the time you've specified your preferences specifically enough for the agent to do what you want, you may as well have done it yourself.

Agents seem like they might be helpful for high-friction tasks, with a lot of data. But summoning Ubers and ordering food aren't really that.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by cozzyd on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:34PM (#50373924)
yes, it's like using a company travel agent. doesn't save you any time really, once you have specified all your constraints.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by easterncalculus on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:55PM (#50374105)
Summoning Ubers arguably is a great use case because at airports you're probably busy moving to the pickup point and dealing with spotty signal on the way there. Comparing multiple services by hand in that environment is kind of a pain in the ass. It would be great to instead use an agent that is probably talking to their APIs to do this faster, and I can focus on other things at that moment like texting whoever I'm seeing.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by asdff on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:07PM (#50374197)
It takes 30 seconds to check both uber and lyft. 45 seconds adding waymo to the mix. You want to pay for a service to save you 45 seconds. And thats the best case. Worst case it screws up an address and that isn’t unlikely either.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by easterncalculus on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:55PM (#50374550)
It does not in fact take 30 seconds to check uber alone even when you have good signal - and correctly copy the address every time without deleting it by accident, not having to restart the app because it times out and won't let you back to the search bar, etc.

The whole point of agents for this kind of stuff is to not have to think about it so you can focus on something more important than a mobile app failing to compute its core function alongside the other nonsense it's doing. And no it doesn't screw up the address either, this isn't 2021 anymore.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by asdff on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:53PM (#50375351)
So in this low cell signal situation the gigantic bloated ai solution will book a rideshare for you? When the first party apps can’t even connect to their servers?
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by nunez on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:04PM (#50375021)
most airports in the US have good cell service. you book the uber as the plane parks. you meet your uber driver at the rideshare pickup area. i fly a lot; this is what most people do
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by solyin on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:15PM (#50375104)
Which is the stupidest fucking thing ever. There should just be a line of cars waiting to pick you up and you get in line and that car drives you to your destination. Aka a taxi stand, just with technology. Get in the car, the driver scans a QR code on your phone that was generated by you, telling the driver where to go. The reason we can't just do that is because taxi laws are stupid and Ubers are not a taxi so we're forced to play that stupid game because money and power, so we can't fix things. Arg.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by htrp on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:10AM (#50375462)
taxi lobby f*ed up a golden opportunity there
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by NamTaf on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:46AM (#50375648)
That is exactly how it works at airports in India
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by spwa4 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:48AM (#50376795)
> There should just be a line of cars waiting to pick you up and you get in line and that car ...

This one is not law. That absolutely exists ... but airports demand money for taxis to join that line of customers and so these got more expensive and are never the cheap option.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by stroebs on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:30AM (#50377087)
What’s missing from this is also the choice of the rideshare driver. Maybe they don’t want to take you 30 miles to your destination. Maybe your destination is in an area of no business so it’ll cost more for them to get back to a place they’ll find another fare.

The rideshare race to the bottom model of pricing has some bad aspects to it, but choice for the driver before accepting the trip is one positive.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by nunez on Friday November 06, 2026 @10:19AM (#50393386)
Couldn't agree more. I'm wondering if this will be revisited once Waymos at airports become more commonplace.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by what on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:01AM (#50375403)
If you’re that price conscious, take the bus. Or just get in the line for an actual taxi. The last time I tried to get ride share at the airport the drivers all declined them to drive up the price. I started getting offers for 200, I just went and got a taxi for 50.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by jpardoe on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:06AM (#50375767)
So astoundingly marginal. Seriously wondering how many Meta astroturfers are in here with some of these posts.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by alex0015 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:06AM (#50376466)
I think you're just in your own bubble of how people use technology. I hate typing and looking at a screen while in motion. I can absolutely imagine myself using voice mode at home saying "I need a ride to X destination, leaving home within 30 minutes, just me in the car, check Uber Lyft and Waymo and book the cheapest one."

I don't have any kind of agent set up to do that now, but to me that sounds like removed friction even if I use it just a few times a year.

I constantly use the Ask AI thing in Google maps to tell it a complex route involving biking and transit and needing to be at a certain place at a certain time. It hasn't messed up on me yet. I would much rather specify the question in natural language than type anything into a rule based UI. In fact I built a toy app years ago that handled a few of my most common queries with the Maps API and I still never used it because of the friction.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by jpardoe on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:20AM (#50376569)
We’ll see.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by HWR_14 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:59AM (#50377709)
Siri has been able to book you a ride share since iOS 18 without needing an LLM. Generic speech recognition is fine for what you need.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by vanuatu on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:56AM (#50380731)
have you used Siri vs. the new crop of personal ai assistants?

siri is horrific

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by HWR_14 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:35PM (#50388255)
You may think Siri is horrific, but it can do what the poster is asking for at less cost than an LLM.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by easterncalculus on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:38AM (#50380460)
Never used Muse or any personal agent for that matter. GTFO.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Terr_ on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:53AM (#50376369)
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Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Quiark on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:18AM (#50376558)
maybe but this is an AI chatbot inside Uber that will not consider other services. And your own claw will not get an API to be able to compare. Can you imagine the horror on the providers faces if you suggest such idea.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by SpicyLemonZest on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:15PM (#50374255)
Where do the constraints come from? When I do something like order an Uber to the airport, I don't typically game out in advance the full decision tree of what things I might see on the app to make me change my mind.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by joeframbach on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:28PM (#50374354)
UX/HCI researchers have been harping on "recollection vs recall" for like 50 years now, and we're throwing it all away. When your web form is replaced with an AI agent, not only does your user need to remember what the form looked like, now they have to type/say it all over again! Holy friction Batman!
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by otabdeveloper4 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:45PM (#50375303)
> Couldn’t the agent do the comparison for you?

Maybe. But we need to invent a SOTA model that can reliably count to four first.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by cowlevel on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:12PM (#50373746)
If an AI company ordered expensive food without your full consent would they be liable to pay instead of you?
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by smcg on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:13PM (#50373759)
Did you give them your payment information? You might be liable...
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by paxy on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:39PM (#50373978)
By giving the AI your password you have given that consent. Willing to bet it is written down in the terms of service as well.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by cowlevel on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:25PM (#50375167)
Consent doesn't actually work that way. Maybe between you and doordash but not between you and the agent company.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by viccis on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:03AM (#50376055)
It 100% works that way. Sorry your Dot bought you a $24 Mr Beast burger.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Terr_ on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:00PM (#50374141)
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Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by pluralmonad on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:05PM (#50374645)
Convenience is the root of all evil. I know people say it is money. But what is money if not the ultimate convenience?
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by thephyber on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:47PM (#50374908)
No.

It's the behaviors of humans when they fight over scarce money that you are describing as "evil".

Humans are the root of all evil.

There are lots of evil behaviors that have nothing to do with convenience.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by forgetfreeman on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:52PM (#50374952)
“The fact is that the greatest crimes are caused by excess and not by necessity. Men do not become tyrants in order that they may not suffer cold; and hence great is the honour bestowed, not on him who kills a thief, but on him who kills a tyrant.” - Aristotle
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by TeMPOraL on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:25AM (#50377048)
That omits the majority of the casual, daily acts of violence and greed, committed by people to secure their basic needs at the expense of their families and neighbors.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by customguy on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:45AM (#50377211)
Those falls under non-great crimes, the implicit counterpart to the explicitly mentioned great crimes. It would follow that rectifying those those merely gets one petty honour, rather than great honour.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by _heimdall on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:30PM (#50375208)
Money is a claim on future resources, today that generally means energy / oil.

I don't see money as convenient, honestly money adds a lot of complexity and inconvenience onto my life. What it adds in a good way, though, is power - power to trade hours of my time for stuff I want to buy or services I want to psy for.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by bryanrasmussen on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:40PM (#50375266)
the phrase is "the love of money is the root of all evil".
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by rsynnott on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:41AM (#50376736)
> If it messes up sometimes, well, that's just the price of convenience...

That seems incredibly inconvenient, though; you then have to sort it out.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by kolinko on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:49AM (#50377238)
What? If you tell Opus to be concerned about that it will. And I’d say by default it is way more concerned than I am.

Perhaps you had experience with some old models and crap setups like OpenClaw? But things don’t work like that any more.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by davnicwil on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:14PM (#50374247)
I agree and I think I think price might be one example of a more general thing which is just that you want to make the decision based on price but a whole load of other factors that you can't be bothered to explain or may not even be able to articulate.

I think it's pretty common to actually not want to delegate and just do simple things yourself. It can be satisfying, aside from any of the practical problems it avoids.

Maybe it's a personality thing, maybe it's a learned behaviour thing, but I'm not sure I've met many people I'd imagine being happy just speaking these sorts of things into a phone and seeing what shows up.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by zippergz on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:03PM (#50375016)
Even complex things like travel booking. I have been fortunate enough a few times in my life to have humans whose job it was to help me with things like booking travel, and eventually they did learn my preferences, but there's a ton of nuance that is just hard to explain and doesn't show up in data. There is always a lot of back-and-forth, trial and error, to get aligned on how I want things arranged. Stuff like what time of day I want my flight to be depending on what I had going on the day before. What seat I want on a particular aircraft, vs. a different seat on a different aircraft. What hotel I might prefer, because a restaurant I like happens to be across the street. I've been around long enough to never say never when it comes to technology, but I will say AI agents are not even remotely close to a point where I'd want one to be booking a trip for me. If I don't even want a skilled and experienced human doing it for me most of the time, the bar is very high for software.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by what on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:41PM (#50375280)
> What seat I want on a particular aircraft, vs. a different seat on a different aircraft.

This seems really strange to me? I have preferences on seats too, but they largely boil down to “I want to be at the front to deplane faster” and “I want a bulkhead or emergency seat for leg room” and “I prefer aisle seat”. I can communicate those preferences and a human booking my flight can balance them regardless of specific airframe.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by bigfatkitten on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:03AM (#50375750)
> This seems really strange to me?

As someone who flies between Australia and the US 3-4 times a year, not at all.

I want leg room and the ability to sleep with my head against the wall of the aircraft, but I want to be away from galleys and toilets and not in a seat where the overhead locker closest to me is reserved for crew equipment.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by danpalmer on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:47AM (#50376337)
Ok the seat at the front is 40% more, do you still want it? Or you've got a layover of 3 hours anyway, do you still need it? Or it's only available on an airline you had a bad experience with, or you're checking luggage so have to wait for that anyway...

There's so much nuance to these things

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by wolvoleo on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:45AM (#50376770)
Some seats have no window or they have the thick bar between the windows right beside your shoulder which is really uncomfortable
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by labcomputer on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:52AM (#50380670)
Ok, but some people have preferences like,

"I prefer to be in the back half of the first class cabin if it's a 757, but the front half if it's not, but never book the first or last row of first class (bulkhead) unless it's an A320-family (or another type that has a curtain between first and coach), and I prefer an aisle seat unless it's the last row of first class and the A/C has asymmetric seating in either first or coach (IYKYK), and I don't mind sitting in the back of the cabin if it's on the upper deck of an A380 or 747 (so please don't 'helpfully' move me to a row with a lower numerical value) but otherwise I don't want to sit in the back of the plane, and never book an exit row or the row ahead of an exit row, and only book the row behind an exit after confirming it has the normal amount of leg room and recline, and never book the first row of coach behind premium economy and preferably not the last row of premium economy unless the other rows only have middle seats; and I'm more willing to pay for first if it's a 757 and less willing if any other narrow-body, and don't book a first class seat if the flight is shorter than 1 hour and the premium is more than $25, and never book a middle seat in premium economy unless the only other available seats are in the last 5 rows of the plane."

It is obviously possible to encode that in a decision tree, but, for some of us, it's easier to just look at the seat map and pick what we want.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by hashmap on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:53AM (#50376371)
People like looking at pictures of food and choosing lunch, and talking to a robot sucks. It doesn't need a whole lot of analysis I don't think.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by spwa4 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:40AM (#50376731)
People like knowing the price of something before spending the money. Companies like the opposite, for people not to know.

This proves, yet again, how accurate the AI labs' talk of "money won't matter" is.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by arjie on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:13PM (#50374694)
We buy our household stuff through our household agent. Very simple. It does the research, matches inventory, and browses to Amazon and buys things. Other sites it volunteers information. Overall, I’m a fan.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by yeahwhatever10 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:25PM (#50375169)
How does it track inventory?
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by arjie on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:40PM (#50375270)
Nothing smart. I photograph the closet occasionally like “do you see the X?” when I put something away, or a Costco purchase receipt. And it obviously has Amazon. It has cameras through the house but never uses them for this.

It’s kinda vibes based. “You’re at Costco. You last bought X”.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by tgsovlerkhgsel on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:43PM (#50374878)
It's a classic example of a task that AI cannot do better than humans (because it's quite simple to do manually and the AI doesn't know what that human craves in that moment), and personal stakes (if it fucks up, you'll have to eat something you don't like or go hungry for a while - people tend to feel viscerally about their food).
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by gurjeet on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:53PM (#50374965)
I think you've identified the core reason people won't use these tools to make blind purchases, at least those who aren't {m,b}illionaires.

A noteworthy proof of this is the failure of Amazon Dash buttons [1] that blindly ordered your consumables for you. Amazon gave away these devices essentially for free ($5 off with your first order, or some such offer), and people still didn't seem to have been comfortable to use it.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Dash

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by jamesmiller5 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:14PM (#50375093)
The buttons had a "dedupe" setting to allow only a single pending item until said item was delivered fwiw.

I really liked the dash buttons for two reasons:

1. It made ordering something you regularly and only buy online anyway easy for an entire household, like for my use case, hookah coals roughly every month.

2. You could place the button next to where you store said consumable and most folks would prefer using it over asking for a link or reminding someone else to re-order.

I do think it was a mistake to launch with an initial limited set of branded buttons for common household goods most people pickup at the store anyway (like detergent) instead of a generic button for my point 1's usecase but thats just plain-old BigTech thinking.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by hattmall on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:43PM (#50375290)
I mean I think the point is that most people want to price check before they just buy something, even if it is the same item on repeat.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by kg on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:22AM (#50375525)
Yeah, the price of bulk consumables like paper towels or toilet paper or supplements or detergent regularly changes on Amazon, as does availability of a specific SKU. If you just re-buy the same SKU every time you can end up paying considerably more and/or having your supplier change from Amazon to some random third-party of questionable integrity.

I can imagine an AI agent grappling with all that but the first time a Dash button price gouged me that way I'd throw the thing straight into the trash.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Terr_ on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:47AM (#50376343)
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Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by jamesmiller5 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:07AM (#50380883)
While that does sound more open & flexible the button originally was tied to a specific account with purchasing power + notifications of the order in general (with price).

There is still the issue of who is paying for said item and building an open platform that allows another individual to use my funds at the press of a button would require a lot of investment (identity, trust, limits, etc) though I do see the value you are proposing showing a "mini market" to select from.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by brewtide on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:06AM (#50378166)
Re 2: I always got a chuckle seeing that "slim jims" were one of the buttons and could envision someone getting into their pantry only to notice they are down to their last 2 slim jims, but thankfully they have a dash button right there to avoid this future disaster.

I never got one, but they certainly made sense in my mind for something like laundry detergent, etc. You notice you are getting low, hit the button, forget about it and 3 days later it shows up and you go "oh, right perfect".

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by kotaKat on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:35AM (#50378355)
There was also the horrifying Trojan Condom Dash button.

Envisioning the gigolo opening up their nightstand drawer, shocked they're down to their last couple rubbers... slapping the button and getting back to some other slapping.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by gmac on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:15AM (#50376974)
I was always surprised and disappointed that Amazon didn’t have some customer-friendly pricing policy with these. For example, that your next Dash order for its associated product would cost $X (and maybe an indication alongside the delivered product of what the next one would cost). That or a small LCD to show the current price. Instead, it just struck me as a “please charge me any number you like” button, and I don’t have anything like enough trust in Amazon (or price insensitivity) to push one of those.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by pjc50 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:50AM (#50377652)
As with smartphone IAPs, this falls apart as soon as it encounters small children who like to press buttons.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by vidarh on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:00AM (#50379153)
It'd certainly be possible to make this work well enough for a lot of us.

Yes, you'd need to sort out pricing. I'm unusually price insensitive, but too many sellers play stupid games and win stupid prizes (me shopping around instead of blindly buying from them every time) by changing unit prices too much too often (e.g. my sons preferred shower gel litre price regularly rotates between prices that adds up to a factor of 3 difference, with any given size container at any given time potentially being a massive rip-off). You could fix that by letting users configure price bands and make it pick from a set of products based on price parameters or give an error. Or only include products where the sellers agree to not play stupid games.

But now your UI is massively complicated and you have error scenarios you didn't have before.

Even then, though, the bigger problem is that there just aren't enough product categories where we frequently order the same thing often enough separately from e.g. the weekly grocery run, to be worth it.

In my household I think it basically boils down to shower gels - because I have a teenage son - toilet rolls, dishwasher tablets and washing machine tabs.

That's not nothing, but it's not going to make me order materially more from Amazon to be able to press a button to reorder vs. pull out my phone, press "orders" in the Amazon app, and find the last order I made and reorder the product.

And I say this as someone who did order a couple of Dash buttons when they came out and promptly forgot to even use them (and I don't even remember why).

It's just such a very minor convenience that to work it'd need to have absolutely zero friction, and even then the revenue it'd bring would likely be totally marginal.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by cloverich on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:02PM (#50375007)
My wife is a dentist. She brings her lunch because its cost effective. Her assistants all order door dash, _regularly_.

> Except that regular people compare 13 different options to pick the cheapest one.

Which takes time... and the AI can do that for you, presumably? Do I trust AI _right now_ to do that _for me_? No. Will people try it out and invariably work out the kinks, for a stable set of use cases? Definitely. Screens are just one UI for ordering stuff. There's definitely a market for doing the same thing with minimal or no screen time.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by johnnyanmac on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:33PM (#50375223)
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Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by hattmall on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:41PM (#50375279)
This is common because there's probably some other, major time savings things that your wife is able to spend money on that lets her have a reliable stock of food that she can plan and prepare for her lunch.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by 3RTB297 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:23AM (#50375533)
AI or not, ordering any food delivered takes time to deal with and collect. When your food is already there, you can pick the exact second you want to eat lunch and not wait 30 or 45 minutes for someone else's delivery time frame to match yours.

Beyond time, I will go out of my way to make larger portions for leftovers because I know what's in the food I make, and I try to make healthy food. Even "healthy" options from places that deliver aren't always that healthy. There's an element of knowledge about what I eat that is equal to cost savings in my mind.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by suddenlybananas on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:38AM (#50377150)
>When your food is already there, you can pick the exact second you want to eat lunch

Yes but you have to spend time making it beforehand dumbass. (Not saying it's not fiscally irresponsible to get delivery for lunch every day, but you're obviously missing the point of the convenience)

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by 3RTB297 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:33PM (#50388241)
I was already making the food - That's why there's leftovers. The marginal time needed to have leftovers is not a significant increase when already making food anyway.

I understand the convenience, and I'm explaining that if you are smart enough to plan ahead once in a while, convenience is overblown.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by watwut on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:46AM (#50377217)
> AI or not, ordering any food delivered takes time to deal with and collect.

It is few taps in an app and going out for it when it arrives. Literally. And while you are at work anyway. Cooking, shopping and packing take more time - and at the time when you could have been doing something more pleasurable (like chilling with netflix).

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by solyin on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:34AM (#50377930)
Only when framed that way. Different strokes for different folks. Some people actually enjoy cooking. Being in the room and providing for people. Thinking about the recipe and how it came out this time vs last time, and what to change next time to make it just so. Being taken to a Michelin star restaurant is an experience that I will never forget.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by vivaldi_bt on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:50AM (#50379036)
>like chilling with netflix

For me cooking is meditative enough that it can be included in "chilling with netflix". :D

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by HWR_14 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:56AM (#50377685)
Meal prep takes your time. Meal delivery is asynchronous. If you don't have the time to meal prep, then you don't.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by dgb23 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:12AM (#50377394)
Habit + planning + preparing food in bulk can save a lot of time and money. If you're already in the kitchen preparing a Sunday evening meal, you can scale that up a bit and have a few extra lunches ready without much additional effort.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by jpardoe on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:33AM (#50375581)
I just can’t see this ever being common. It sounds terrible. Imagine phoning a number, a person answers and you attempt to relay and negotiate a food delivery order through them, in what world is that better than browsing an app? We don’t have to imagine, this is what we used to do. It sucked and almost everyone stopped doing it in favour of browsing an app. It’s just a superior interface for that sort of thing, it’s already as good as it needs to be.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Folcon on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:32AM (#50376227)
Different use cases, if the apps don't offer what you need because it's uncommon or custom, then the call is superior, apps can't offer every option, so you default back to messaging and a back and forth, at which point you do want realtime communication
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by hypfer on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:52AM (#50376363)
I am not sure what kind of restaurant you're thinking about where it is impossible to put every food option into an app.

If you think about the logistics of running a decent kitchen, the set is quite limited in the first place.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by jpardoe on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:23AM (#50376594)
So you need to know exactly what you want to order? People rarely order food like that in my opinion. The majority of the time people like to browse menus and consider the options. In that scenario the voice chat interface is absolutely terrible. “Remind me again of the option you presented to me 3 minutes ago? No not that one, list them again. No I don’t need to know the full item description with all ingredients, just be brief!” and so on. It’s just not an efficient way to relay that type of data.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by stevage on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:41AM (#50377984)
Funny, I much prefer ordering food by phone call than using apps or websites. I find it much quicker and less error prone.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by pjc50 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @05:56AM (#50377687)
> My wife is a dentist. She brings her lunch because its cost effective. Her assistants all order door dash, _regularly_.

Ah, this is the new marshmallow test, except instead of "can you leave a marshmallow uneaten on the table" it's "can you avoid summoning a taxi to take a single marshmallow to your house".

(Bluesky calls this "burrito taxi discourse"; I do notice that a lot of the people who claim that delivery is absolutely essential to them give an impression of privileged learned helplessness while at the same time claiming to be poor. Perhaps that's unfair, or perhaps not. I'm just a higher earning middle aged professional like the rest of HN, who rarely orders delivery food)

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by jklinger410 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:33AM (#50379559)
> There's definitely a market for doing the same thing with minimal or no screen time.

Are you arguing against observed reality? People have not been using AI assistants to buy things. Remember all those smart devices they sold trying to do exactly that? None of them are being used that way.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by JDups on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:08AM (#50375778)
> Ask DoorDash orders “average nearly 50% higher basket value and about 60% more unique items than the same consumers’ traditional orders.”

Really shows why companies salivate over people using these features.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Terr_ on Thursday November 05, 2026 @02:51AM (#50376359)
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Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by ezconnect on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:39AM (#50377969)
Online stores like Amazon already solved that by having a minimum buy for free shipping. People now have more junk in their house because of minimum order for free shipping.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by alexgoodhart on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:20AM (#50379392)
Some of the comments here seem to suggest that people are unaware that the goal for any company transitioning a user to AI is to

- prevent them from being able to access without going thru the company

— cost them more money

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Spooky23 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:40AM (#50375931)
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Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by mikelitoris on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:03AM (#50376443)
This stems from the differences in median income of people coming up with these tools and the target audience/median consumer.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by mpweiher on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:20AM (#50376574)
I remember meetings with our M$ management when I was at Wunderlist (after the acquisition) singing the praises of Cortana and "smart inboxes".

The disconnect was almost comical. All the engineers and other regular employees had "eeew, get it away from me" on their faces, and the sentiment was "how much do I have to pay to not get this?"

The managers, on the other hand...I don't know how to describe it. What they exuded was something along the lines of a religious or probably more accurately cultish experience. They had been on the mountain, they had seen the light, the future had spoken to them, and they were preaching the gospel.

And it didn't seem like they were faking it, either.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by camillomiller on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:18AM (#50376556)
I think this has been a trope of how detached SV has been from the real world for a while. Google has shown this demos for ages where their AI books you a flight with no friction, as if people wouldn’t have a gazillion tabs open with skyscanner, kayak, trip.com, google flights…
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by 7952 on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:42AM (#50391664)
The irony is that the experience with those traditional websites is horrific. Slow load times, confusing prices, dark patterns when you try and book anything and often isolated from the rest of your bookings. AI could make this better if it could elicit deals with providers and agree to things. Like "I want to travel to X at the end of February, arriving during afternoon or evening, public transport to the airport, checked luggage and booked seat, accommodation with a bath". AI may be able to help answer the question well, but what I want is something I can actually deal with and will give trustable commitments on behalf of providers.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by LoganDark on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:10AM (#50376947)
> No one wants to see food appear on their doorstep followed by a bill they cannot pay.

This is why you can finance Chipotle orders with Klarna

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by perching_aix on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:30AM (#50377085)
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Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by m000 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:41AM (#50377183)
Also, such use cases are an artifact of the designer being too deep into the personal optimization cult.

I want to have 30' time to spend cooking my effing dinner, not save 5' on my DoorDash order. Is that too much to ask these days?

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by kolinko on Thursday November 05, 2026 @04:44AM (#50377205)
What’s your logic behind agents being worse at this than humans?

My agent routinely does comparison shopping across various sites to filter out according to my criteria, and even finds coupons - something I never bothered to do.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by expedition32 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:16AM (#50377823)
My mother isn't even poor (decent pension) but she asks a neighbour to drive her to the hospital instead of a 50 euro Uber. A taxi is basically the last resort.
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Vachyas on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:26AM (#50377883)
If companies pushing these agents find they're reliably making customers overpay by about ~30%, I wonder why they don't run some sort of subsidy (from their pocket) where like orders placed by your AI are 30% off.

Certainly feels less gameable than the kind of stuff we already see so much of (like referral bonuses, free sign-up balance, "unlimited" promos, etc)

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by porridgeraisin on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:09AM (#50379253)
For purchases that are not frequent or async, any automation is fairly pointless.

E.g quick commerce. If I order groceries and a charger and it all shows up in 7 minutes, I will just order it and receive it synchronously, don't need an agent for that anymore than I need an agent to pick it up at my doorstep, that is to say, I don't need one.

Food is async (30+min), so it's useful. Most AI consumer users are young people, and many young people especially living in college, order out every single day, and mostly rotate the same ten options. So it becomes easy to automate. Wherever there is a pattern, you abstract. If it's a one off order for a gathering, sure an agent is pointless. I don't use it when I'm at home either and we order the rare dessert.

Anything which I need to replenish at a certain cadence, and is not available in quick commerce, e.g medicines, I absolutely have my agent order. Once every two weeks the same medicine shows up on my doorstep and I don't have to think about it anymore.

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by lithos on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:40AM (#50381269)
Tech bros are obsessed with making "things mommy used to do for me" services. And with voice AI ordering it's getting even closer to that
Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by Kim_Bruning on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:27PM (#50382571)
> Except that regular people compare 13 different options to pick the cheapest one

Exactly.

So I have a specialized AI agent that comparison shops for me and tracks prices when I'm placing component orders for my company.

Even the first run isn't too painful, but afterwards you can ask it to write memory files with preferences; and any scripts and tools you write for an earlier search remain usable for later ones of course.

I don't let it place the orders themselves, I'd prefer to do that by hand yet. But recently it finds spec matches and prices better and quicker than I can.

This is kind of handy in today's wild IT market with a customer breathing down your neck asking why it's all so expensive.

(of course the reason it's all expensive is because the datacenters out-bid everyone. But hey, every downside has an upside)

Re:Basically no one is using AI agents for their DoorDash or... by glaslong on Friday November 06, 2026 @11:08AM (#50394185)
Even without price sensitivity, taste is a thing.

Been in plenty of meetings where lunch and drinks are catered. Either you order enough variety that everyone can find something they'll like, or you take individual orders.

"AI, bring me ${food}" is too nonspecific to ever get you what you want. And as soon as you have it present options, you're now in a flow that would have been faster done manually.