Relevant thread where Sam acknowledges the plan.
https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the...
_vomit face_
Such an insufferable response.
Nope [1].
Once they have collected 'enough' faces to use on their AI, they could possibly pull the plug or keep it as a social experiment.
I was thinking, there is no way Russia or China will allow them to operate in their countries, and (combined) they got 1.5bn people.
I can also see them trying that to Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other autocratic ..stan places, where the local dictator would only allow this if they got to use the data for their own nefarious purposes.
Most people calling it a scam don't know much about it.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...
https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...
Transacting with your eyeball? Directly out of the Book of Revelations!
[1] I took a strong interest in biochemistry in college and I'm no longer religious.
I would trust a blockchain more than my government. My government has clearly been shown to be vulnerable to a < 51% attack. Blockchains don't change every 4 years and decide habeas corpus no longer applies to me because my skin is the wrong color either.
I predict that Worldcoin will get it done first, and will be more dependable than most countries. But it could turn out otherwise. In the end, services that need humanity verification will have multiple provider options and the market will decide.
Government solutions will be opt-out, and only in the most tedious way: Leaving the country, burning your passport and becoming a stateless person. Not recommended.
If there ever was a moat, government has it.
Initially I thought it's a bloody stupid idea, however at this stage I reckon we need it or a lot of boomers are going to be ones hotted into singing away all their wealth away.
He always said wild stuff like, (paraphrasing) "If you think or say anything bad about the holy ghost, you'll be doomed to hell forever."
Scary stuff as a kid.
ChatGPT says,
> Pastor John Hagee has addressed the gravity of blaspheming the Holy Spirit in his sermons. In his message titled “Seven Kinds of People God Cannot Save,” he emphasizes that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin. Citing Matthew 12:31–32, he warns that mocking or criticizing the works of the Holy Spirit is perilous and unforgivable. He states, “You be very careful when you open your mouth to criticize a genuine move of God. You’re walking on very dangerous ground.”
> This perspective aligns with the biblical passage in Matthew 12:31–32, where Jesus declares that while all other sins and blasphemies may be forgiven, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, neither in this age nor in the age to come.
Eternal damnation thoughtcrimes are terrifying stuff for a kid.
And then rose up in competition against a company whose logo is literally a cross, and code-named an OS "Chi-Rho" [Cairo, XP] -- yes, it's a little "on the nose" by now.
It's also a hoot to just see LDS missionaries waiving their iPhones around with the Genesis Apple clearly visible. To be honest, as a Catholic I have seen no overtly demonic or Antichrist features in Apple Computer themselves, and frankly most tech companies try to adapt postures as agnostic and irreligious anyway, just due to globalism and market share. The {Free|Open|Net}BSD daemons and logo/mascots have long been subsumed into Apple's juggernaut anyway!
To be fair, the LDS doctrine around the fruit from the Garden of Eden and the fall is quite different from the Catholic understanding, it’s seen as a necessary, even a good thing, in the overall plan.
Oh? And what do you believe is the Catholic understanding?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_culpa
https://www.usccb.org/prayer-worship/liturgical-year/easter/...
O truly necessary sin of Adam,
destroyed completely by the Death of Christ!
O happy fault
that earned so great, so glorious a Redeemer!
To be honest, I would say that these signs placed by Apple Computer were done not out of malice, but by way of warning. To say, "Here Be Dragons!" To counsel those who may be ignorant, there are pitfalls ahead, and be careful, because you could lose your soul to these things, even though they are designed as morally neutral.
Computers are a tool, after all. The fruit depicted could just as easily be from the Tree of Life. It's all about how we use those tools.
Also tools are not neutral, they carry the intent of their designer and make whatever they are designed to do easier than it used to be; if you want to be convinced please read Douglas Rushkoff's Program or Be Programmed: Ten Commands for a Digital Age
From here: https://openai.com/index/evolving-our-structure/
The nonprofit will continue to control the PBC, and will become a big shareholder in the PBC, in an amount supported by independent financial advisors, giving the nonprofit resources to support programs so AI can benefit many different communities, consistent with the mission. And as the PBC grows, the nonprofit’s resources will grow, so it can do even more. We’re excited to soon get recommendations from our nonprofit commission on how we can help make sure AI benefits everyone—not just a few. Their ideas will focus on how our nonprofit work can support a more democratic AI future, and have real impact in areas like health, education, public services, and scientific discovery.
The previous structure is here: https://openai.com/our-structure/
From what I understand reading Mat Levine explanation of the topic, the non-profit controls the board and has supervoting rights, so it cannot be diluted to be outed.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/newsletters/2025-05-06/ope...
Some take the form of different stock classes, with some classes having voting rights, and others no vote at all; other schemes are stock with supervoting rights.
Only if you go there for rage bait content.
Small subs are better than ever. And no Lemmy is not an alternative.
Which is sad - I've been using Lemmy exclusively for 5ish years now and the smaller communities haven't really taken root. Reddit still controls the long tail of internet discourse
the funny thing is the only indication that this happened was keybase alerting me that my proof was gone.
I can login and use reddit as usual, but nothing I do has any effect. It's like I am in a sandbox. Try to view my profile publicly and it does not exist.
But what is keeping you from making a new account and rejoining the same subreddits, except perhaps losing a hundred million magic internet points?
Basically what happened was I wrote a post, and some guy responded to me with a firehose of personal insults. I called him a troll in reply, and within 30 seconds of posting said reply, I was permabanned as a first offense, without any possibility of appeal.
Mods be powertrippin over there.
/r/news locked/suppressed [0] as 'Politics'.
I sent a Message to modmail:
Me: Calling this 'politics' makes me ask who's on the an alphabet payroll... Just saying.
Reply from modmail: This message makes us think you haven't bothered to read the rules... Just saying.
Then I was muted from /r/new modmail for 28 days, while also being perma-banned from /r/news.
Months layer, I had left a normal comment on a different thread with a 'mobile' secondary account on /r/news, and found both my desktop and mobile accounts locked for 7 days because the /r/news comment was considered 'ban evasion'. Despite having otherwise commented on /r/news from my mobile account in the meantime with no repercussions.
It was within the subreddit rules and reddit TOC to do all of this, I acknowledge, at the same time it's almost like Reddit is hitting that vibe of StackOverflow from a few years ago where mods can just power trip and make the place less useful for everyone...
[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1es7sbp/us_considers_...
It is almost like there are many opinions in that place.
Update: translated Hamakom article - you can judge for yourself whether you think this is a reliable source of information: https://www-ha--makom-co-il.translate.goog/1058990-2/?_x_tr_... “ IDF and Shin Bet in joint statement: The war is pointless and everything is stupid” doesn’t convince me, likewise whatever they’re trying to say about Natanyahu’s wife.
That said, getting into an argument over which word to classify the senseless murder of innocent men, women, children, journalist, medics, etc. in the context of a multi-decade illegal occupation, seems like a distraction.
Follow the sources here in case you're interested in having some sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents.
Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents.
Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
Another example:
Apple subreddit allows developers to self-promote their apps on Sundays. I posted an app of mine. Mods removed it and banned me for 100 days from the subreddit because I had 4 comments within the last month and not 5. This is despite me having lots more comments and posts (multiple posts/comments over 7000 points) over 7 years and in last 2 months instead of last 1 month.
"Hamas must be destroyed"
and
"JK Rowling doesn't want men in women's bathrooms"
Edit: I'm not complaining about moderation do what you want, but the statement above is true, I have been banned for writing those things, and if anyone has any experience with Reddit, it should be fairly believable that Reddit would ban an account for writing them.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44055918 and marked it off topic.
Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents.
Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
You can't "no true scotsreddit" your way out of this issue because it's an overarching issue with the platform itself. Even 4chan has more better protection against influence campaigns, it's pathetic how Reddit's own administration lets itself be defined by it's lowest-common-denominator.
Depends on the community we're talking about here but I found Lemmy to be a great alternative for tech communities.
The app is not impartial in the content it chooses to push. I got identified as a target for very specific content and in the context of this discussion, it's the polar opposite of what reddit used to be.
Reddit isn’t for me any longer, when they break old.reddit.com I’m done with it, I go weeks without commenting as it is.
A significant amount of the current content is literally bots posting old threads! Whether those bots are run by reddit itself or unaffiliated parties I don't know, but they are there, on most threads, including some threads that are ONLY bots reposting a 3 year old thread that did well, verbatim.
My tinfoil hat theory is that all the "Explain this (very obvious) joke to me" subreddits are trying to create training data for some AI and that a significant amount of the content that makes it to the front page is designed to elicit "Good Training Data" for whatever AI company they sold the rights to.
The key is to not mistake your social circle with "normal".
Based on their other behavior, it wouldn't surprise me if Reddit both used crawler hits to pump up numbers while decrying AI bots and doing things that broke long-standing community tooling and apps....
You can spew ads and shit wherever they’ll let you, doesn’t enrich the environment by default.
I get what you mean, but I’m still unconvinced of Reddit as a meaningful platform.
I think people are more critical in this discussion though, so that an apparent consensus may be interpreted by the user as the thread being bot-infested rather than there being a consensus. Thus it may be harder to get a result there, and the really interesting people that you may want to affect might actually be immune because they approach the medium as critically as it should be.
/r/Sweden bans people, but is less astroturfed and you can still have real discussion there, except when the drug-liberals (for Americans speakers, think drug-libertarians) and other goons come out of their hiding holes.
I don't think either subreddit cares about Israel stuff at all, and they certainly don't care about what any Swedish government thinks. In both, everyone gets to have their say, whether he's Israeli public diplomacy or Qatari public diplomacy, although bots will of course downvote, and Reddit itself will sometimes remove comments.
Do you think multi-billion-user products can exist without "slop"? What do you think the average person wants to consume? The equivalent of salad? Have you met the average person?
I think people have fundamental misconceptions of the average person's desire.
Insane take. Reddit hosts deep threaded discussions on almost any topic imaginable. In its prime it was the best forum on the internet. There’s a reason people commonly add “reddit” to the end of their search queries.
Unfortunately it feels like the community has gotten much dumber after they banned third party apps and restricted API access. It’s also lost almost all of its Aaron Swartz style hacktivist culture.
Reddit, in its prime, was incredible and beloved by almost everyone I know (most of which are far outside the HN sphere)
I miss the old skool php web forums.
Do you have any tips on how to specifically search for these forums? Without just googling for topics and browsing hours to find some. When I think about it, just googling/searching might be the only way.
Most of reddit doesn't read HN, and there 100s of millions of people on reddit, so your perspective seems a bit narrow.
They said the same thing about Quora and 3d TV.
That being said, TikTok and Instagram matter. Reddit probably matters more because it's so easy for motivated people and corporations to manipulate discussions on it; it's even weaker than Wikipedia.
50x as many people read Reddit than post on Reddit, and 10x as many people as read Reddit have gotten their opinions indirectly from people passing on stuff they (can't remember that they) saw on Reddit (but think they learned somewhere legitimate.)
Did the non-profit buy io using shares of the for-profit that it owns? Or did the for-profit buy io using its own shares?
I'll add that conventional finance wisdom says that you should only buy companies using stock when you believe your stock is overvalued. That way you get more bang for your buck than cash or undervalued stock.
I agree with your analysis, but it's hilarious that it's now top-voted, when the sentiment was so negative when the board saw the same thing coming ages ago.
This acquisition (and the Windsurf acquisition) are all-stock deals, which have the added benefit of reducing the control the nonprofit entity has over the for profit OpenAI entity.
How do you extract the for profit entity out of the hands of a nonprofit? - Step 1: you have close friends or partners at a company - with no product, users, or revenue - valued at 6.5billion. - Step 2: you acquire that entity, valuing it unreasonably high so that the nonprofit’s stake is diluted. - And now control of OpenAI (the PBC) is in the hands of for profit entities.