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Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by keiferski on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:19AM (#18976593)
The reason this matters is that “lack of time” often crops up as an excuse when scientists try to figure out why so few of us get as much exercise as we know we should. Gibala and others have been whittling away at this excuse for more than a decade now, designing ever more time-efficient workouts.

The solution to the "I don't have enough time" problem is not to make shorter and shorter workouts, but to encourage a cultural shift away from constant media distractions and pointless hyper-productivity posturing. No one is too busy to spend 30 minutes exercising 3 times a week.

Ditto for the obesity crisis - the solution isn't to make less caloric foods, it's to change the culture of excessive portion sizes and sedentary lifestyles.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by erfgh on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:08AM (#18977050)
I have two small children that I raise while both me and my wife are working 40 hours per week. Trust me, there is no time for the exercise that you describe.

Also, what you say is misleading. Exercising for 30 minutes means that you also need to prepare, have a shower afterwards and it also means that you will require more sleep. If you add all those up it means that those 30 minutes are closer to an hour, if not more.

I know; I was a 30-40 km per week runner until my second child got born.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by pqs on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:16AM (#18977082)
If you do strength training at home, as I do with two kids too, you don't need much preparation. I just take off my t-shirt, do some pull ups, push ups, squats, etc. following a well thought plan, and most of the time the shower is not needed. You don't even need to do all the exercises in the same time slot. You can do pushups as you watch your baby, a few pull ups while your watch your son wash his teeth, etc. Not changing, not much preparation.

I apply this method and it is amazing how stronger and leaner I am now. And doing pushups, some cardio is also done.

I do cardio while bicycling to the office (no clothes changes needed again; maybe just the t-shirt in summer), and walk up the office and home stairs (4 floors in both cases) two steps at a time.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by miluge on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:13AM (#18977310)
This! My father used to work out when we were kids while we were playing video games, brushing teeth, homeworks, etc...I still remember him teaching me the multiplication table while doing pushups or pull ups and asking me : I did 3 sets of 8 pull ups, how much does it makes ? Good times
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by pqs on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:25AM (#18977618)
That is exactly what I'm doing! ;-)
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by BerislavLopac on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:36AM (#18977159)
> following a well thought plan

This is a much bigger hurdle than it might seem; at any rate the biggest one for me personally. I have absolutely no idea how to create an exercise plan for myself, which exercises should I do and in which combination. And additionally, even if I had such a plan, I have no idea how to measure my progress, or whether and how to modify the plan depending on the progress.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by bryanlarsen on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:10AM (#18977793)
The nice thing about being incredibly out of shape is that any plan will work. It's only the people that are in relatively good shape that need a good plan to see improvements.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by Broken_Hippo on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:31AM (#18977905)
That isn't quite true either, though. Though it becomes more difficult to aim to low, aiming too highly can easily lead to injury.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by hnnh44 on Friday January 25, 2019 @01:06PM (#19000545)
No, poor form can lead to injury.

Poor form is sometimes caused by fatigue, but that's about knowing your limitations.

Parent's point stands. Anything - in a reasonable sense - is better than nothing. If you do handstand push-ups day one, you deserve what you get.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by throw0101a on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:39AM (#18977959)
Rippetoe's stuff is pretty good. The first book on why barbells and getting started:

* https://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-Basic-Barbell-Train...

After a few months you'll exhaust that (perhaps just take it out of the library?), and need more intermediate-level information:

* https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Programming-Strength-Traini...

Otherwise, some others have suggested a few Reddit threads; see also /r/fitness.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by really3452 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:24AM (#18978314)
> I have absolutely no idea how to create an exercise plan for myself

Don't over complicate things. Do 5 sets of 5 reps of: * Bench Press (barbell) * Front Squat (barbell) * Dead Lift (barbell) * Pull Ups (weight hangs off a chain linked through a squat belt)

Have 1.5 to 2 minutes of recovery between each set. Do this 2 to 3 times a week with as much weight as you can lift.

How to progress: Write down exactly what you lift in a notebook and attempt to do exactly what you lifted for the previous workout with the only change being an increase of 1 to 5 lbs on one of the sets.

Cost: A monthly gym membership or about 50 cents a pound for second hand weights. About $25 for a second hand barbell. $25 for a second hand bench w/rack. So starting out pickup 300lbs of weight which is about $150 plus the cost of the barbell, bench w/rack, and squat belt should set you back about ~$200 (or the cost of a gym membership for 4 months.).

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by conistonwater on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:41AM (#18977187)
There are pre-prepared plans that you can follow, like https://old.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/wiki/kb/recommend...
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by pqs on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:24AM (#18977616)
You are right. I started with the book "Body Weight Strength Anatomy" by Bret Contreras. Then I used the internet to complement the gaps, watch youtube videos, etc.

Quiting social networks and watching/listening to news has helped to find time to learn and think about training.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by swat535 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:59AM (#18980004)
Julian has a pretty good guide which I followed and gained substantial muscle from. It covers everything from diet to measuring growth

https://www.julian.com/guide/muscle/

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by hcrisp on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:17AM (#18977584)
I like this one (7 exercises to keep firm body) which requires only some small hand weights and a chair:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/02/06/muscle.mainten...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by nradov on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:14AM (#18978775)
If you can afford to spend a few hundred dollars then sign up for a few personal training sessions at your local gym. A good certified personal trainer can teach you proper form to avoid injury, and put together a customized workout routine that you can follow on your own.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by everdev on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:07AM (#18978707)
Bodyweight training is incredibly effective. The problem is that it's simple and free, so you'll find very few people trying to sell you on it. Much of the noise about exercise is from someone selling you a program or some equipment.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by pqs on Thursday January 24, 2019 @06:16AM (#18987695)
So true! I'm doing body weight strength training and I'm amazed about the results. What is important is to annotate everything on a spreadsheet, in order to gauge progress, understand the concept of progression, and build a program that covers the whole body. But, don't obsess about the program, two years ago, when I started, my program was bad, and I have been improving it gradually, as I have been learning things. Due to work constrains I can't have a fixed plan (the same every Monday, Wednesday, ...) so I have to adapt constantly, which is great, as the results have been good. Bodyweight training adapts well to your life (not the other way around) and you can even workout in a hotel room!
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by justsomeguy3591 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:12AM (#18978752)
Seconding this - bodyweight training is exactly how I got started in fitness for a year before eventually signing up for a gym after moving to the city. The /r/bodyweightfitness subreddit http://reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness is a great resource with pre-made plans to ensure you're hitting all your muscle groups evenly. Highly recommend it!
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by erfgh on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:35AM (#18977403)
I can do a few push ups etc. I wouldn't call that a workout though.

Running or cycling to work is not an option. I live in Cyprus where summer is regularly over 40 degrees C and autumn/spring regularly over 25. Also, there are almost no bike roads.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by pqs on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:27AM (#18977626)
Why bodyweight strenght training is not a workout?

What it surprised me is how little you need to do to change your whole body. I'm stronger as ever working out 20-30 minutes three times a week the best weeks, even less sometimes.

I understand you not cycling in Cyprus.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by nradov on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:24AM (#18978886)
Check the Strava heat map. Some people seem to be running and cycling on Cyprus, so this should give you an idea for local routes.

https://www.strava.com/heatmap#9.00/32.94155/35.10759/hot/al...

Since you're on an island you might also try open water swimming.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by derekp7 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:59AM (#18979314)
Isn't it better to have an aerobic warm up before doing any strength training (to prevent injury), along with pre/post stretching exercises?
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by pqs on Thursday January 24, 2019 @06:18AM (#18987703)
I jump and run on the place for a couple minutes. You don't need more. I haven't had an injury in two years and I'm stronger than ever (8 pull ups, for example).
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by jdietrich on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:58AM (#18977501)
>Exercising for 30 minutes means that you also need to prepare, have a shower afterwards and it also means that you will require more sleep.

We've fetishised physical activity as "exercise", a strange and pointless hobby that you need to wear special clothes for. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Current health guidance suggests that it's perfectly sufficient to do 150 minutes of moderate cardiovascular activity and 60 minutes of muscular activity every week. Crucially, there's nothing magic about "exercise" as opposed to just doing physical things. Going for a brisk walk or pushing the lawnmower counts as moderate cardiovascular activity. Digging in the garden, laying bricks or carrying heavy bags of shopping counts as strength activity.

We need to get away from thinking about exercise as something we add to our schedule, but something that we build into an active lifestyle. Many people never do "exercise" per se, but get more than enough physical activity to stay healthy. Some people do have extremely sedentary lifestyles that are detrimental to their health, but they don't need a gym membership and some lycra pants to fix that.

The message shouldn't be "get more exercise", but "be more active".

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by mymythisisthis on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:18AM (#18977836)
We need more bicycle lanes, start taking away car parking and car lanes.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by barry-cotter on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:12AM (#18977561)
This is sad. Walking, brisk or not isn’t exercise, it’s walking. Carrying shopping bags isn’t exercise unless you’re so old or weak that you should seriously consider physiotherapy.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by jdietrich on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:20AM (#18977596)
>This is sad.

Yes, it really is. A majority of Americans don't get this basic level of physical activity. Going jogging or lifting weights simply isn't necessary to maintain physical health, but you need to do something.

https://www.hhs.gov/fitness/resource-center/facts-and-statis...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by bluntfang on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:00AM (#18978647)
I agree that it's sad, but there's a minimum amount of activity that can be done to reduce your risk of death considerably [0]. I would rather people be fit and take their bodies seriously, but just a little bit goes a long way.

* 0: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/walking-e...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by jamisteven on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:16AM (#18977083)
If you dont have 30 min a day for exercise and you think its entirely because you have two kids this is simply not true.Perhaps your work day is too long, commute too long, both parents working etc, these things play far more into time management than just the kids themselves. Better time management is part of the lifestyle switch described above.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by StudentStuff on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:21AM (#18977108)
Most people don't have great time management or great financial management: https://www.npr.org/2016/04/24/475432149/could-you-come-up-w...

Expecting people to suddenly improve and re-prioritize their lives accordingly is unrealistic, rather than working with people where they are on gradual improvements, encouraging them to take that big leap forward!

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by opportune on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:26AM (#18977129)
that article had me face-palming so many times. Maybe people should stop worrying about how much they need to spend to appear to be in a certain "class" and instead just stop spending money to keep up with the Joneses. If you can't responsibly support a (non-west-coast/NYC) family on $130k then you just suck with money. Christ if you can't even come up with an extra $400/month as someone with a middle class income wtf are you even doing? Your bank probably followed the 34% rule if you bought a house, meaning you just took on a ton more debt after securing the biggest mortgage you could...
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by kasey_junk on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:33AM (#18977644)
I know lots of people who have monthly expenses that top their reasonable and well thought out mortgages. Education expenses, alimony, medical insurance/care & parental care are all major expenses for people.

While I agree with your sentiment that too many people spend money on dumb crap, making broad statements about what everyone should do is a step too far.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by alistairSH on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:56AM (#18978601)
I have two small children that I raise while both me and my wife are working 40 hours per week. Trust me, there is no time for the exercise that you describe.

I'm not buying it. I had a kid (he's grown and moved out) and managed to exercise. I rode my bike to work. I coached his football and basketball teams. I squeezed in weights on my lunch hour. I ran or cycled a few hours early Saturday, before the rest of the family was ready to do things.

Same holds true for friends that have young kids today. One parent runs/cycles while the other helps with homework. Yoga at 5am. Treadmills or stationary bikes to squeeze in workouts whenever possible (after kids are in bed).

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by nojvek on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:45AM (#18979138)
Good for you. Not all kids are the same. My 6 month old barely lets me sleep at night.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by alistairSH on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:52AM (#18979915)
Sure. But, your 6 month old will soon grow out of that, be a toddler, and not much later a kid, preteen, etc. You aren't doomed to 18-22 years of sedentary life simply because there's a small human in your household. For most of that span of time, you will have to make time for exercise, but it's possible with planning.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by everdev on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:04AM (#18978683)
Sometimes shifting the wording to: "I choose to play Legos with my kids" or "I choose to feed my kids" can help confirm that you're doing things just the way you want to be doing them.

I raised 3 small kids and it's easy to feel constrained. When I realized that everything I was doing was my choice, I felt less guilty about not doing X, Y and Z. Instead I was just prioritizing and choosing to do other things with my time.

So technically, yes you can choose to exercise 30min a day but it's also perfectly reasonable to choose sleep, playing with your kids, etc.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by prawn on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:16AM (#18977575)
My wife and I have three kids including one under 12 months. I use my own app Streaks Workout (https://www.streaksworkout.com) on an Apple TV (also available on iPhone and iPad) doing short, basic workouts. The older kids who are 4 and 6 love following along too.

I agree completely that time is exceptionally short with kids in the picture, but it’s not impossible to do at least something simple.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by Poiesis on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:43AM (#18977991)
Hey, didn't know about Streaks Workout but I do love Streaks so I'll be giving that a shot.

I noticed when reading the reviews that what seemed to be a common complaint was that the randomization would repeat an exercise type too often. Now, I know you've fixed this because I just spent five minutes reading the release notes for every release in the last year--but if you used the ability that Apple added to reply to these reviews, then someone wouldn't have to do that in order to figure out if the issue was addressed.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by markdog12 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:16AM (#18977820)
I have two small children with a wife that works 40+ hours per week as well. I still find time to lift weights (at home) and play sports.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by weavie on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:22AM (#18976876)
This is very much embodying the spirit of Kaizen, that of making continuous small improvements.

To someone who does no exercise at all the thought of doing a whole 30 minutes of exercise is just too overwhelming for them that they will just keep putting it off and never get started. But maybe if it is just 1 minute, that would be enough for them to stomach and get them started. Once they have got 1 minute under their belt, they will be much more likely to go for 5 minutes and from that 30 minutes.

I quite often find that mantra of 'one more minute' really helps me to deal with arduous tasks and fight distraction. When I want to give up on something because it is too tough or boring and I just want to surf reddit instead, I tell myself, ok, just do 1 more minute of this and then give up. Often it is all I need to get over the hump and keep going.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by raverbashing on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:53AM (#18976984)
You are definitely not wrong, and some people will just be overwhelmed to think that they will start in the gym in "full throttle" (and some trainers encourage this - I suppose they like high attrition) but it seems to be that 1 min is too short.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by dsego on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:37AM (#18976931)
You need to set yourself up for success. If I'm postponing going out for a run, I may just put my running outfit and shoes next to my bed so it's in my sight when I wake up. If I'm getting fat I may just stop buying sugary foods to limit access. And so on, making it easy to do the right thing and harder to slip.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by xwvvvvwx on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:48AM (#18976716)
Ditto for the obesity crisis - the solution isn't to make less caloric foods, it's to change the culture of excessive portion sizes and sedentary lifestyles.

Agree that our sedentary lifestyles are a significant contributing factor to obesity, but you have it backwards about portion sizes.

Calorie dense (palatable) foods trigger our the reward centers in our brain more than non-palatable foods, and actually make us more hungry. This is an evolved survival strategy.

If you look at hunter gatherer diets, they will eat huge portions of extremely high calorie foods when they are available (e.g. drinking whole glasses of honey). They don't put on a lot of weight because they are more active, and don't have daily access to high calorie foods.

This means that large portions (and by extension obesity) are caused by the easy availability and low cost of high calorie foods. Telling people to eat less doesn't work because the systems that trigger hunger and fat retention work at a subconscious level and are in general more powerful than the conscious mind. The food environment that we have built up around us is a bad one for human beings.

If you want to learn more about how our hunger and fat regulation systems work then I can highly recommend "The Hungry Brain" by Stephan Guyenet [1].

[1]: https://www.amazon.com/Hungry-Brain-Outsmarting-Instincts-Ov...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by keiferski on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:53AM (#18976743)
I really don't think it needs to be that complicated. French cuisine, for example, is full of butter, fat, wine, and other theoretically unhealthy foods.

Yet the French have dramatically lower rates of obesity than the Americans, and recent increases in the French obesity rate are mostly due to Americanization / a drift from traditional French food culture.

I obviously don't have the data, but I think it's simply because meals are traditionally "sacred" in French culture (that is, you don't eat snacks in between meals) and because portion sizes are much, much smaller than the American equivalent.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by jdietrich on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:15AM (#18977574)
Europeans who travel to America joke about how much weight they're going to gain on their trip, but it's not really a joke. There's just so much food. American restaurants serve appetisers that are big enough to be a main course and main courses that could feed a family.

Everything about the American food culture works to subtly distort your sense of what a sensible portion looks like. A Big Gulp is a grotesque amount of soda, but it seems almost parsimonious compared to a Double Gulp. It's almost like gaslighting - you're constantly being told that vastly excessive portions are the norm.

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/wecan/news-even...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by danmaz74 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:55AM (#18978089)
Not just that, also the amount of sugar in those portions is astounding. Luckily, when I visited the USA for 3 weeks, I didn't have time to get accustomed to that, and I actually didn't enjoy to eat that kind of food. Unluckily, now that I've been living in the UK for 6 months - where the amount of sugar is less than in the UK, but much higher than in Italy where I used to live - I'm starting to notice it less and less.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by tome on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:06AM (#18978175)
> Europeans who travel to America joke about how much weight they're going to gain on their trip, but it's not really a joke. There's just so much food. American restaurants serve appetisers that are big enough to be a main course and main courses that could feed a family.

I've heard this a lot but never experienced it. Are portions smaller in NYC (which is the only place in the US I've visted much)?

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by swift532 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:37AM (#18979750)
I definitely think so from my limited experience. I ate what seemed like normal meals in bars and ethnic restaurants in NYC, but in other areas we'd go to some place like Chilli's were the calories are insane - most appetizers are over 1000kcal, and most single courses 1500-2000kcal.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by nradov on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:35AM (#18979026)
Obviously this varies a lot from restaurant to restaurant. But yes in general portion sizes tend to be larger in the US southeast and midwest regions.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by xwvvvvwx on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:15AM (#18977080)
I haven’t researched it, but I’m pretty sure the american diet has the highest amount of concentrated sugar (the most calorie dense foodstuff). Processed foods with added sugar are the most highly valued by your brain and so trigger overeating more than any other.

French food culture values home cooking from fresh ingredients which I assume results in food with lower concentrations of processed sugar.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by collyw on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:45AM (#18976962)
Lack of sugar perhaps? Someone sent me a link a while ago showing how sugar triggers the body to store fat. Keto diets are similar in principle and many people claim to loose weight on them.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by kortilla on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:12AM (#18976838)
What about the relative levels of appetite suppressants (e.g. smoking) between the two cultures?
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by keiferski on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:15AM (#18976851)
According to Wikipedia, the rates of cigarette consumption are basically the same:

#63 - France #69 - U.S.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by rlue on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:10AM (#18976824)
If this were truly the determining factor in the American obesity crisis, we'd see similar outcomes in all developed economies (which, obviously, we don't).

Let's not throw our hands in the air and blame the quirks of evolutionary biology when there are clearly better examples to follow.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by janekm on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:52AM (#18977229)
What do you mean obviously we don't. Obesity in France is at 24%, closely behind the US and the UK. And obesity is rising in countries around the world as access to "western" diets increases.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by bildung on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:59AM (#18977750)
The obesity rate is the US is at over 36%, so at quite a distance to France [1].

The overall rank of all countries by body mass index places the US at #9 and France at #43. [2]

Evolutionary psychology is fine for producing plausible-sounding explanations, but I have not yet heard a single case where it actually produced something of scientific value.

Sure, aeons of scarcity obviously made us like food. But as can be seen with this example, culture often plays a much bigger role.

[1] https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/29-most-obese-countries-...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by Fricken on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:56AM (#18978099)
Obesity rates in both France and the US are rising at similar, alarming rates. In the mid-90s the US surpassed 24% obesity rates, and at that time France was at less than 10%.

This is crazy. What are we doing? Nobody chooses to be fat, except maybe sumo wrestlers and a few other strange outliers.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by bildung on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:32AM (#18978372)
One successful approach seems seems to be education at schools and banning junk food there: "From 2012 to 2015, the number of overweight and obese children has dropped by 12%." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/14/amsterdam-so...
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by rlue on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:11AM (#18978211)
Here is a chart from Wikimedia, showing the incidence of obesity by country in OECD countries in the period 1996-2003:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity#/media...

Rates vary from 3.2% (Japan) to 30.6%. The median value is somewhere around 13%. Clearly there is more at work than evolutionary biology/psychology.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by Namari on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:45AM (#18977198)
I feel like it's more related to the refined sugar added to improve the shelf live in the supermarket in the 50ies that are responsible, it's something they didn't have access back in the days. It's clearly something our body is not used to and store it straight into fat. (sugar triggers the same area in the brain as cocaine, so it's clearly addicting) So it looks like it's more about food evolution that went too fast for our body to adapt in time. And that is different based on DNA too, some people get a lot fatter than other, slow/fast metabolism ...
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by danmaz74 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:57AM (#18978104)
+1 about sugar.

Regarding evolution, I don't think we would like to have a few billion deaths to let our DNA "adapt"

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by wattengard on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:53AM (#18976742)
Considering that a 30 minute workout often incorporates, getting dressed (5 min), driving to the gym (20 min), working out (30 min), driving home (20 min), taking a shower (15 min), being so exhausted that the rest of the night is down the drain....

The 30 minute workout is a myth...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by lm28469 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @06:27AM (#18977364)
> being so exhausted that the rest of the night is down the drain.

You're only exhausted after a 30 min workout when you have 0 physical training. After a few weeks it'll have the opposite effects. As developers our body is rotting away day by day, if I didn't push myself to exercise the most physical thing I'd do most of the days is pull a door to open it.

Even a set of dumbbells, a pull-up bar and a stretch mat will be miles ahead of doing nothing. It's very insidious because you can be passive all your youth with almost no side effects, but all those years of passivity will come back at us when we hit 50, 60, 70.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by dagw on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:31AM (#18977635)
You're only exhausted after a 30 min workout when you have 0 physical training.

If you're not exhausted after a 30 minute workout that just means you're not pushing yourself.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by lm28469 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:44AM (#18977998)
I run to and from the gym (~15 min), mostly do compound exercises like ohp / squat / deadlift / bench press for 1-2 hours 3 times a week. I'm usually home before 9PM and cook / continue with my day. Unless you have to chop wood when you get back home you'll be fine.

Even after bouldering for hours to the point of not being able to hold a glass of water in my hand I've never been "so exhausted that the rest of the night is down the drain.", and I'm far from being a genetic freak or a good athlete.

I used to be your average 70kg skinny fat teen, that was 4 years ago when I decided to do something to not end up like all the chubby 30+ years old guys I was seeing daily and who were unable to go up 4 flights of stairs without panting, at some point you have to take decisions for yourself. It's not some bs like "you can be the next Einstein/Musk/Bezos if you try hard enough", there is no luck involved, no barrier to entry. The hard truth is that there is no magic bullet, no quick ways to do it, you just have to get up and move, be it cycling, lifting weight, running, swimming.

It's pure lack of motivation/confidence, once you get started everything falls in place and gets easier. 3 or 4 hours of quality workout a week, even at home, will change your body in a few month and you'll never look back. And if you can't find 3 or 4 hours a week to take care of your most precious physical possession (your body) I guess you have bigger issues to take care of.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by rypskar on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:13AM (#18977803)
If you are in reasonable shape recovering after a 30 minute workout will not take much more than the time it take for a quick shower. After that time you will have much more energy compared to what you did have before starting to get in shape
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by throw0101a on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:50AM (#18978053)
It depends on the exercise program.

I'm currently doing a Texas-method-based lifting program: three-days, medium-light-heavy. The "medium day" is mostly volume with (e.g.) 5x5 squats at 90% for example; I'm zonked after. My light/recovery day I'm only doing 70-75%. The heavy/intensity day it's 1x5 100% (or trying to reach five reps).

Of course if you're going an HIIT program, then yes, you should probably fairly drained afterwards.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by scottlocklin on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:27AM (#18977888)
So what? The idea that you need to go balls to the wall to benefit from exercise is probably why so many people fail at it. You get plenty of benefits by simply getting up and going for a bloody walk for 30 minutes.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by BattyMilk on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:15AM (#18976852)
If you're time starved and trying to work out like this, you're doing it wrong. There are much more time efficient ways to get some exercise.

Rather than driving 20 minutes each way to the gym, just put on some shoes and run/walk from your front door. You've saved 40 minutes and a bunch of money. Plus, if your goal is to lose weight, you've a far more effective workout.

Walk/run/bike to work. I've completed 2 Ironman triathlons and 75% of my training was done on my commute (my shortest route to work is 8 miles but I can take different routes and make it as long as I want) with hardly any impact (other than exhaustion) on my personal or professional life.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by tapland on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:43AM (#18976952)
Walking is not effective for weight loss. Then there would be nothing left of me while working as a checker at a warehouse (35000 steps/day)
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by Konryan on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:03AM (#18977024)
I don't know if it's true, but I often think the only real solution for weight loss is eating less, and that exercise is more of a way to improve general fitness rather than losing weight.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by KevanM on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:59AM (#18977254)
A caloric deficit is the only way to lose weight. You can burn off the calories that you eat, if you have the time and the energy; but the most efficient way is not to eat those calories in the first place and then exercise to improve your strength, cardio-vascualar stamina and flexibility.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by throw0101a on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:54AM (#18978075)
You're also not mentioning the other half of the equation: calorie input. If someone eats the same amount of food, and walks more, then they're burning more than before when they were just sitting on the couch. Of course what often happens that the body starts wanting more energy for the new activity level, so many people end up eating more--no net change.

It should also be noted that there's more to exercise than just weight loss.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by tapland on Friday January 25, 2019 @08:43AM (#18997774)
That is because the person I responded to didn't mention that and actually wrote that _walking_ was effective, not a caloric deficit.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by BattyMilk on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:03AM (#18977022)
Walking burns a lot more calories than not walking.

"You can't out run a bad diet"

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by rlue on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:26AM (#18976892)
I won't comment on the logistical difficulties of making a separate trip to the gym, except to say that there are always a million excuses not to work toward your goals, but if you really want 'em then you'll find another way.

> being so exhausted that the rest of the night is down the drain

This is your body's resistance to a change in routine; you may also observe it when, e.g., quitting coffee or skipping breakfast. Keep it up for a few weeks and you'll be over the hump. A couple more months, and a 30-minute workout won't even faze you.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by rags2riches on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:18AM (#18976867)
Driving to the gym for aerobic exercise? I think it's fair to blame culture in that case.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by tomp on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:05AM (#18976802)
buy an exercise mat (£5), search "low impact HIIT workout" on YouTube, follow the video just before your normal daily shower time (presumably you shower at least 3 times a week?)... it's just a matter of priorities, really.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by A2017U1 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:06AM (#18976807)
My mid-range apartment has a gym, it's 30 seconds away from the front door and I shower at home without fear of foot fungus.

I still don't exercise anywhere near as much as I should. Perhaps the tyranny of distance is the myth?

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by onorton on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:47AM (#18977207)
"exhausted that the rest of the night is down the drain."

If you're going to the gym after work (and after getting home) that might be the problem. Everyone I know who works out either can take an extra long lunch break and do it then or get up an extra hour/hour and a half and do it in the morning. It's usually a lot emptier in the morning as well.

Also, there are a lot of activities you can do that don't even involve getting to a gym. You could do a 15 minute jog out and a 15 minute jog back. You can also do most bodyweight exercises at home.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by ClassyJacket on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:29AM (#18976625)
I feel like the actual solution is to gamify it in such a way that it keels you competing with friends for the sake of winning. Fitbit's ranking system has definitely increased the amount of exercise I get.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by ctchocula on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:33AM (#18976911)
I agree with this. I did running a few years ago, but stopped because it got too boring and I didn't notice any improvement. However, I recently got into Pokemon Go, which has an egg hatching concept. It rewards you with Pokemon with better stats, but you need to walk/run/bike 5km in order to get it to hatch. This has given me new motivation to run again.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by noir_lord on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:40AM (#18976674)
Back when I cycled in a group Strava had a similar effect, you could see how many miles your friends had gotten in and would want to beat it (same with the mini time trials (strava segments) but they got dangerous with people doing stupid things to 'win'.

These days I ride alone and the only number I care about is my total for last week.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by Fricken on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:04AM (#18978155)
You can also gamify exercise with your friends by playing soccer, or basketball, or Ultimate. It has the added benefit of being fun.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by Insanity on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:38AM (#18976661)
I don't really compete with anyone, but I am using google fit since two months ago.

I was swimming and going to the gym since a couple of years ago before that, but I feel more motivated now just for getting the stats.

It's silly, but not unlike trying to get green squares on GitHub.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by mateuszf on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @03:46AM (#18976704)
From a different point of view you are actually competing, but with yourself :-)
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by nradov on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:42AM (#18979109)
Garmin uses the phrase "Beat Yesterday" in their fitness tracker advertisements. Every day try to get a little faster.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by nradov on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:04AM (#18978158)
Sign up for an actual "game" like a local 5km running race. If you want to place well in the race that's good motivation to get out and train every week.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by dare0505 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @05:18AM (#18977096)
It's not only about having "enough time". These "short time" approaches are amazing for "making" time. Every major habit I started, I first started doing a few minutes a day, then it naturally came to me to EXTEND it to a longer period of time.

This is an aspect it seems many people forget.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by collyw on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:19AM (#18976868)
The reason I cycle almost everywhere is because its the fastest way around a dense city and it saves me time in most cases.
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by mauvehaus on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:35AM (#18977652)
And yet, here we are, discussing it on the internet, and arguing about whether the researcher is right or whether there's a different/better solution.

I'm not claiming you're wrong, but I'm not going to raise my hand and claim that I don't spend more time fooling around online than I ought to either.

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by mymythisisthis on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:17AM (#18977828)
Stop prioritizing cars!!! More bicycles and walking. F cars!
Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by Fricken on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:07AM (#18978177)
I can see why you're being downvoted. Netherlands, that cycling paradise is the only 1st world nation where obesity rates are on the decline.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/dutch-turn-around-obes...

Re:Canadian researcher behind one-minute workout has a short... by nradov on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @01:06PM (#18980752)
I don't think Netherlands is the only 1st world nation to cut their obesity rate. Japan has also done it.

https://mic.com/articles/84521/japan-has-cut-obesity-to-3-5-...