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Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by pmlnr on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:38AM (#17512420)
Remember when blogging systems allowed you to choose a theme? Or that running your own site allowed you to make the site without ads, nag bars, etc? Yeah, maybe, but just maybe, when the next medium comes along with the promise of saving the web, just stick to having your own site, where you're in control.

I know this extension is to read, not to write, but if most writers just have used, say, Hugo, we'd not be here.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by southerndrift on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:11AM (#17513485)
It comes down to chrome not supporting various css styles per site [1]. Other browsers have a menu option to load alternative styles if a site provides them.

[1] https://www.thesitewizard.com/css/switch-alternate-css-style...

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by pmlnr on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:37AM (#17513592)
sorry, what? you can just include the <style> on the server side, where you render the page. Or do what I did, <style media="none"> and turn it on with a js click, store the value in cookie/localstorage for which <style> needs to be on.

I also don't really understand how this connects to the topic.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by southerndrift on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:43AM (#17514430)
That creates the same functionality for one page but leaves the end-user unaware of the general duality of content and style. Choosing a style from a browser menu is not perfect but it is a hint for the end-user to see that each and every page can be rendered differently quite easily. Without that knowledge, end-users take the given layout as an unchangeable necessity and don't expect several styles for their blogging system or a page without a nag bar.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by pmlnr on Thursday July 12, 2018 @06:26PM (#17519128)
Ah. I wasn't referring to end user choices, I was talking about publisher design choices.

Medium.com is a platform, where your control is negligable. Earlier hosts, such as blogger, allowed you to theme your blog, you magazine, just like a completely owned site would.

My comment has nothing to do with end user, or in-browser themeing.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by slig on Thursday July 12, 2018 @05:48AM (#17513248)
We can only hope it goes the same way as posterous did.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by Accioni on Thursday July 12, 2018 @06:42AM (#17513394)
Pepperidge farm remembers
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by reciprocity on Friday July 13, 2018 @08:36PM (#17528012)
Please put more substance in your comments.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dreamcompiler on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:04AM (#17512301)
It's a shame that almost every decent website (this one being a notable exception) eventually succumbs to the temptation to go to war with their users on behalf of their advertisers. Radio stations and podcasts are doing it too by upping the percent of the *cast dedicated to ads in hopes of generating more revenue.

This never ends well, especially since so many cord-cutters are less tolerant of ads than people have ever been before.

Oh well. It's a nice opportunity for disruption, and the cycle repeats.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by criddell on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:28AM (#17513540)
I think it's the nature of advertising. Ideally the relationship between audience, producer, and advertiser would be symbiotic but it almost always ends up being parasitic. I think the incentives are just don't align. I've been running a tracking blocker (which is effectively an ad blocker) for years and feel absolutely no guilt for doing so.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dawnerd on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:49AM (#17512687)
Youtubers too. Filler unboxing video with no real content still gets a pre and post roll ad. (On top of whatever ads YouTube inserts). What’s even better is the tech youtubers that do a paid review and still include their normal ads.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by MrEldritch on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:56PM (#17520195)
To be fair, ads got way less profitable for Youtubers recently. After the so-called "Adpocalypse", it's a total crapshoot whether any given video will be monetizable, so it makes sense that videomakers would resort to adding more paid-by-the-sponsor ads directly into the video rather than relying on revenue from Yoututbe's own ads.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by listenallyall on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:57AM (#17512930)
I'd argue that in many cases, the users go to war first. Ad blockers, paywall bypassing, incognito mode, etc. make it virtually impossible for most sites to survive on a straight ad model. The company has to find a way to survive, so it tries memberships, click-bait, nag screens, gathering user data, and in response an extension like this is built, and it keeps going back and forth with anti-ad-blocker, anti-anti-ad-blocker, etc. Medium is far from blameless here, their Twitter feed is repetitive and far too low on quality articles vs junk. And yes, their nag screen and 3-article limit suck. But they need to do something, don't you think?

If you are a user of ad blockers and additional strategies, what do you envision as the endgame? No ads, ever? What kind of content are you expecting at that point?

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by flukus on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:57AM (#17513103)
> The company has to find a way to survive

No it doesn't. Closing the business when they can't turn a profit is a perfectly viable (maybe inevitable) course of action. When a local restaurant is losing money do you expect them to close or to start padding the meals with sawdust? Much of digital media has reached the point of charging you for the sauce on your sawdust.

> What kind of content are you expecting at that point?

Much better content on average, less clickbait crap. You could halve the quantity tomorrow and no one would notice.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by nicbou on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:14AM (#17514078)
If restaurants offered meals for free, people wouldn't complain about the ads on the menu. No restaurant offers free meals though.

Should we start charging for everything we see online?

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by listenallyall on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:33PM (#17516229)
So content providers shutting down their businesses will result in "much better content"? Are you sure you've thought this through?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by PurpleRamen on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:27AM (#17513001)
Not really. AdBlockers were a reaction against the toxic ads. And even today only a minority of users (<10%) are using adblockers.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by listenallyall on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:45AM (#17513071)
You should provide sources when you toss out statistics, PurpleRamen is not itself a source people trust. You are quoting a global number. And it's outdated.

In the US, overall ad-blocking is 30%+. https://www.statista.com/statistics/804008/ad-blocking-reach...

On laptops, US adblocking was 40% in 2017. https://marketingland.com/survey-shows-us-ad-blocking-usage-...

These number are growing every year. And surely, if you focused only on the demographic group most likely to read Medium, the percentage would be even higher.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dreamcompiler on Thursday July 12, 2018 @08:31AM (#17513790)
Whomever starts it, it always turns into an arms race because the backers of the website want constant growth; they are never content with steady performance.

So be it. I have better things to do with my time than participate in 100 arms races. Such sites simply become dead to me and I move to the next one that's friendlier to its readers.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by wilsonnb2 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:02AM (#17514649)
In many cases, the reason they need constant growth is because they're not profitable. They're just burning through cash in an attempt to become profitable in the future, which requires growth.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by some_account on Thursday July 12, 2018 @08:33AM (#17513800)
The endgame is for sites to provide content that users want to pay for.

If you would ban ads on the internet, only sites actually being useful to users would remain. The rest would die off, along with the ad industry on the internet. Sounds like a dream to me.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by listenallyall on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:50AM (#17514517)
In terms of news, there likely is no such thing. The WSJ is among the most respected and high-quality newspapers on Earth. Despite that, every time a WSJ article is posted on HN, somebody posts a paywall workaround. If HN won't pay for content, you expect the average joe will? Get real.

This is just a sample from this week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17510315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17490839 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17479284 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17480087

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by flukus on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:17PM (#17520254)
> In terms of news, there likely is no such thing.

Most countries have public broadcasters like the BBC that are much higher quality than most of the commercial options. We're already paying for news.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by nicbou on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:13AM (#17514071)
Nobody pays for content. Let's stop pretending it's a usable business model. Even paywalls are hated by most, and banned by some communities.

If you block ads, they'll simply make the content an ad.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by CaptSpify on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:50PM (#17516412)
A) They are going to make the content an ad anyway. It's not like they are going to turn down one advertising revenue stream just because their old one came back.

B) Tons of people pay for content. It's a perfectly viable business model. Look at Patreon, Kickstarter, etc. The uncomfortable truth for website owners is that they are likely just not putting out material that is worth paying for.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by r3n on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:52PM (#17511833)
In Safari you can ask it to load certain websites with reader view automatically. If you do so, Safari will change to reader view as soon as it can render the page.

This how I deal with the annoying stuff in Medium.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by craftyguy on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:41AM (#17512429)
> This how I deal with the annoying stuff in Medium.

I deal with it by avoiding medium. Seriously, why support them in any way with page views/whatever if you disagree with their presentation method?

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by pmontra on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:07AM (#17512757)
I don't follow regularly anything except the HN homepage. However there are many blogs with their own domain that are actually Medium and they get linked to HN every now and then. I wonder if that extension is smart enough to process them too. I use uBlock to hide the Open in App button and the sticky bar, in case the same site will get linked again.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by blaqkangel on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:59AM (#17512483)
I would be interested in moving on from Medium but haven't found a serviceable alternative. Do you have any recommendations?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by pmlnr on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:00AM (#17512740)
Hand written HTML with FTP upload. Any static generator with rsync + ssh. Github pages. Ghost, Known, Kirby, WordPress....

There's a plethora of options.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dvfjsdhgfv on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:21AM (#17512808)
Static Wordpress. Seriously. WP has the biggest selection of themes, and being static practically removes all common security-related hurdles. Other static generators would come second first. Then Ghost, which aims to be the blogging platform that WP used to be.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dewey on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:07AM (#17512954)
I second Ghost for that use case, I'm using it for years already for my personal blog (not very active: https://blog.notmyhostna.me) and it's getting better all the time without getting bloated so far. I never really got started with static site generators as it's just too much overhead for me.

If you don't want to self host it and be even closer to the hands off approach of Medium you can just buy the hosted version.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dawnerd on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:49AM (#17512691)
A self hosted ghost based blog?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by megaman22 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:40AM (#17515041)
Blogger is still around. So is Wordpress. So is Github pages. Blog hosting is a dime a dozen. If you want a Medium-like layout, you can probably get 95% of it with a couple dozen lines of CSS.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by Rjevski on Thursday July 12, 2018 @06:46AM (#17513412)
Svbtle.

A few dollars a month, and it’s like having your own Medium without the bullshit.

Other alternatives like Ghost or Hugh are good but require a bit of install/maintenance work so they’re not for everyone.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by adrianN on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:08AM (#17512765)
Neocities and a static site generator? Github pages?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by larkinrichards on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:00PM (#17511864)
This is a nice feature!

Edit: for those wondering, visit a website and long press the reader button on the left side of the address bar to enable.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by krylon on Thursday July 12, 2018 @06:25AM (#17513342)
> In Safari you can ask it to load certain websites with reader view automatically.

That is nice. Firefox has an extension called "Open in Reader View" that adds an item to the context menu for links. But one still has to use it explicitly. (AFAIK, at least.)

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by nichos on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:44PM (#17512028)
Firefox on mobile does this too. Can't live without it on my phone.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ziotom78 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:20AM (#17512345)
Really? How do you do this? I continuously switch to reader mode for a few sites I read regularly, I would love to make this switch automatic.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by craftyguy on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:42AM (#17512432)
It doesn't AFAIK.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dzonga on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:08PM (#17511899)
Medium, is now full of clickbaitish articles + content marketing from various people pandering their online courses. Way different from the medium, I fell into when I discovered it. Recently deleted the mobile app.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by tandav on Thursday July 12, 2018 @08:37AM (#17513821)
Medium golden age was 2015-2016. Then it started transforming to clickbait-y, ugly garbage.

My experience: personal blogs (github.io/whatever) has the most amount of insights, 'a-ha moments', usefull info.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by strikeX on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:31AM (#17512845)
I just use a bookmarked script which I came across on some thread here.

javascript:(function()%7B(function () %7Bvar i%2C elements %3D document.querySelectorAll('body *')%3Bfor (i %3D 0%3B i < elements.length%3B i%2B%2B) %7Bif (getComputedStyle(elements%5Bi%5D).position %3D%3D%3D 'fixed') %7Belements%5Bi%5D.parentNode.removeChild(elements%5Bi%5D)%3B%7D%7D%7D)()%7D)()

I have bookmarked it and whenever there is an annoying pop-up or long headers and footers just run the script. Very useful for these kinds of websites.

For those who don't know how to use the above script: Bookmark this page -> go to all bookmarks and replace bookmark address/url with above script. Click on this bookmark with medium website open and you will see all the crap go away.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ravenstine on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:02PM (#17511868)
> Open in App

To all sites that do this(I'm looking at you, Reddit), no, I do not want to install yet another app just to continue reading. The web is already designed for reading. You hear that?

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by brchr on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:23PM (#17511958)
One of the most crucial parts of my reading workflow is opening things in new tabs. (It allows one to explore a topic by BFS rather than DFS.) Asking me "Don't you want to use our app?" is like asking, "Don't you want your browser to only support a single tab?" The answer is no...for all the reasons browser makers discovered in the 1990s.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dvfjsdhgfv on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:23AM (#17512818)
For the same reason hijacking links to other pages via JS is an abomination that should be cursed and banned. Each time I click a link to open the link a new tab and see about:blank instead the designer should receive a slap on the wrist.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by mockingbirdy on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:28AM (#17513013)
I agree, I'm a BFS guy, too (I like that word, very good description). This behavior is a major PITA. With the introduction of JS frameworks in all kinds of cases (e.g. static blog generators that use react), there's the possibility that the developer messed up the routing or deep linking or even forgot the whole feature because he never opens links in new tabs. I have the presentiment that this will happen a lot in the future.

Even m.facebook.com has this problem in the event overview. There's no way to open nearby events in a new tab because the link only works due to JS hooks.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by megaman22 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:44AM (#17515090)
If you're implementing links with a JS onclick event of some flavor, instead of an <a href="...">, you should be hung up in the street by the toes. There's no excuse for making things more difficult on yourself, in a way that breaks the way things are supposed to work.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by naibafo on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:41AM (#17513605)
To be fair, there are a few single-tab browsers out there, where you then defer tab management e.g. to your window manager on linux: * https://www.uzbl.org/ * https://surf.suckless.org/
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by Deimorz on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:43AM (#17512231)
Recently reddit has also started making its official app generate links to posts via the domain "reddit.app.link", instead of normal reddit.com urls. These new links automatically send everyone on mobile to the app store to download the official app, even if they clicked from inside a third-party app.

As far as I can tell, the only way to make the links work on mobile is to install the official app (once you do, they'll open the linked post inside it).

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ravenstine on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:53AM (#17512259)
I could never work for a company that wanted me to implement anything like that.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by awinder on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:37PM (#17511993)
That and linking rile me to no end. It’s so needlessly user hostile that I might want to share a link to something I find interesting, which is a well-supported and ubiquitously accomplished task in browsers, that completely falls by the wayside in these degeneate apps.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by cowpig on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:03PM (#17511871)
I honestly don't understand why sites do this. Can someone explain it to me?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by andrenotgiant on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:13PM (#17511922)
They (e.g. reddit the company) want you to do more than read. They want you to subscribe and follow and user-generate content (and not block ads.)

They build an app because apps.

Then they compare behavior between app and website.

And there's a stupid, stupid analytics datapoint that shows "Users of the app browse/subscribe/follow/post 2x more!"

That only happens because the only people willing to download and use the app are the power users. But they just worked hard creating an app, and nobody questions analytics data that tells them their hard work was worthwhile.

So now, armed with their supporting data, they begin pushing people to the app because they think it will lead to more pageviews/subscribes/follows/posts and eyeballs on ads.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by skeletonjelly on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:57PM (#17512073)
In addition to this they can get solid data on engagement times, app usage, where uses spend time on the page
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by striking on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:58AM (#17512278)
They can do that with the website, though. Not too hard to read a scroll position in JS, or to warehouse page view records.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by corv on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:19PM (#17511941)
Exactly this
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by abhiminator on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:09PM (#17511908)
2 things -- Tracking and Ads.

Using the web version of the product is disadvantageous from the developer's POV as it gives a lot of control to the user over what personal data of his can be shared. Web browser extensions also allow the users to block ads and other annoying content -- this is sub-optimal for the company as it trims their ad revenue, and as a result, potential future advertisers.

It's all about controlling what the user sees based on data collected from tracking, imo.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by distant_hat on Thursday July 12, 2018 @04:14AM (#17512970)
This. Data collected from apps is far more reliable than that collected from web visits. There is lots of extensions that block/spoof data collection. Moreover, fraud on ads placed on websites is much higher than that placed within apps.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by city41 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:34AM (#17512407)
I’d think a user that has browser extensions is the type of user that is very unlikely to get the app.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by chipperyman573 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:06PM (#17511886)
Websites are sandboxed and make it much harder to gather data about your users (To sell them ads).

Apps have much wider permissions off the bat and can request more as necessary.

I'd assume (though I have no data to back it up) that your service would get used more if the user has an app downloaded as the barrier to access your service is much lower

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by politician on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:25PM (#17511964)
Apps are like TV channels. They are a broadcast medium whose content is entirely controlled by the broadcaster.

Unblockable Ads, In-App microtransactions, Push Notification-based variable reward schedule reengagement dark patterns are the result.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by benatkin on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:08PM (#17511902)
An app is sort of like a physical object, like a flyer. It reminds you of them. The place on iOS or Android's home screen has this effect. It's kind of similar to how Windows apps added themselves to the Start Menu, the desktop, and the taskbar.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by infinityplus1 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:06PM (#17511889)
To gather more details about you from your phone. It's about data and eye balls. You will get more and notifications to increase user engagement.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by muppetman on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:05PM (#17511883)
Because if they can get an app on your device, they can push messages at you easier. Track your usage of the app, assign it a unique ID etc.

The app will auto-update, so as new features/tracking/things are desired, they can push these out to devices.

Basically, they get more control of the end user.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by sbjs on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:06PM (#17511887)
You can push updates out to a web app even easier: deploy them. Boom, suddenly your user sees changes next time they visit.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by sgnl on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:45AM (#17512236)
your "boom, suddenly your user sees changes" is dependant on "next time they visit". A push notification will alert the user to new content quicker.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by zrobotics on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:04AM (#17513981)
Aside from the reasons andre provided, i think the biggest driver is ads. I block ads for most sites, but without a lot of work i can't block ads using the site-specific app.

Although i wonder how many app users only real benefit from the app is a button to launch the site from the home screen, and how many of those users would switch if they were aware of how to add a browser bookmark to their home screen. Anecdotal data, but I have had several friends with this problem, two specifically complaining about the reddit app being less readable than a browser but wanting a single button to press to launch the site.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by anant90 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:14PM (#17511930)
Besides everything else, Push Notifications is usually the top reason.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dudus on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:18PM (#17511936)
You can do push notifications on the web too.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by repsilat on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:30PM (#17511975)
I'm not sure why, but I always instinctively deny notifications and location-tracking on websites, but always seem to allow them on mobile apps. I don't know if others are the same.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dylan604 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:22AM (#17512173)
i deny flat across the board. i don't allow location anything unless there's a damn good reason for it. an RSS reader that wants to send me feeds based on my location, nope. an app that needs to accurately show my location on a map, okay, but only while i'm using it. find the location to something closest to me, nope, i'll do that manually. i don't trust anybody is only doing the one thing you think they are when permission is granted. i may be painting with a very broad brush, but too many bad actors have already made me a grouchy old guy
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ilikehurdles on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:41AM (#17512224)
I share the absolutely same behavior. Just because I added your app to my phone doesn’t mean you’ve earned the right to steal my attention any time you want. Increasingly, notifications are becoming more opaque about what action, if any, triggered the notification. “New message from Ann: How’s work?” Becomes “You have messages”. Nothing happening to you directly, let’s notify you anyway: “Bob and Jill added to their stories”, “Sammy logged a run, give her kudos!”. Not using yelp enough? “Check our this new brunch place [that’s paying us to advertise to you]”.

This isn’t adding value to my life. Notifications are an infestation of advertising into every untouched aspect of our personal lives. If I turn them off, I get fewer ads. If I get fewer ads, I’m less inclined to consume and waste money on things I never needed, and save that money for the stuff I care about.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by anant90 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:29PM (#17511972)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you cannot (yet) do so on the iOS without a native app. This is why developers ask you to install their native apps.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by brokentone on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:24PM (#17511963)
Not (really) on iOS web.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by scruffyherder on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:05PM (#17511881)
Better information on the users, you can harvest their actual location, phone number, contacts, email etc...

Instead of being restricted to a browser, you are on their device, with whatever access you want.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by r3vrse on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:06PM (#17511888)
If they get you using an app that evades in-browser ad, tracking blockers etc... so $$ is the primary reason, basically
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by jtokoph on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:12PM (#17511917)
Ads and tracking as others have said, but also push notifications. People accept push notifications without thinking.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dredmorbius on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:50PM (#17512047)
Stickyness, as well as tracking & ads.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by tbiteteitb on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:06PM (#17511884)
Analytics. They can get a boatload of data from the app that can't be obtained through the browser.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by mhneu on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:07PM (#17511891)
Surveillance capitalism. https://plus.google.com/+GregLinden/posts/TWiGesiztbj

(I'm not sure exactly if this is the present motivation. But it's the motivation for a lot of apps. Data can be sold / used for ads when collected in very large numbers, and apps collect more data than websites. So there are strong business incentives to move to an app, for many sites.)

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by smudgymcscmudge on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:13PM (#17511924)
Ten replies in ten minutes. Looks like everybody wants to explain this.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by wslh on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:19PM (#17511939)
> The web is already designed for reading.

Not only that, these apps just have an embedded browser inside!

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by skizm on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:04PM (#17511878)
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by quirkot on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:05PM (#17511882)
Banner text for me reads "TRY REDDIT'S MOBILE WEBSITE". There. is. no. escape.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by colordrops on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:09AM (#17512518)
commenting is horribly broken on mobile.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by thinkingemote on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:23AM (#17512815)
There must be a Firefox extension to block these, if not, ive got my weekend project!
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by city41 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:31AM (#17512397)
Medium is especially cruel as they offer no way to make it go away.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by mi_lk on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:30PM (#17511977)
Came here to say this. It’s so annoying that I would probably pay for the plugin to get rid of those pop-ups on reddit mobile sites.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by gnicholas on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:34PM (#17511987)
To what extent do plugins exist for mobile? My understanding is that on iOS there are Share Extensions and Action Extensions for Safari, but these have to me manually triggered on every page where you want them to run.

On Android, Firefox supports addons (but practically no one knows they exist) and Chrome doesn't have extensions.

Are there other options? I hope I'm wrong here since it would be great to have browser plugins on mobile!

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by sharmi on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:29AM (#17512189)
On Android Firefox, I always install Ublock Origin. It makes web browsable on mobile without killing the machine.

I have varying level of success installing other addons. For example, Tab Count addon works. I can install LastPass on mobile but there is no way to use it as it goes blank on login screen. I assume that, mostly the developers are not aware that the addon may be used on mobile too.

For those who are wondering why I would need a Tab Count extension on Android Firefox, when the tab count exceeds 99, the ui shows an infinity symbol. Yes, I have that many tabs, I had more than 200 tabs open at one point and android firefox kept chugging along like it was nothing. I am trying to reduce the count for my own sanity. Currently, tamed it to a more docile 44.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by mi_lk on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:04AM (#17512102)
Plugin is probably not the best word. But since iOS supports content blockers, I was imagining it’s possible to have dedicated apps block reddit pop-ups.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by gnicholas on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:52AM (#17512256)
Gotcha. Yeah it would seem pretty easy for content blockers to add these banners to their blocking list.

It would be most useful to do this in a dynamic way though. I might actually want to know that examplewebsite.com has an app that I could download. But once I've gone to that site 5 times, then the banner should be hidden. Either I don't want the app, or I've already downloaded it. Unfortunately, I don't think content blockers can include any logic like this.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by trishume on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:07PM (#17511896)
I want to install this addon, but it asks for permission to view and modify data on all sites.

Both for security and loading javascript on every page I visit reasons, I wish there was a version that only bound to medium.com. I know I could compile one from source but that's a hassle.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by thebaer on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:24PM (#17511961)
Then it wouldn't work on Medium-powered sites like hackernoon.com. There is an open, up-for-grabs issue to fix that permission [0] if anyone wants to help us solve this!

In the meantime, there isn't anything crazy you have to do to make it only work on medium.com -- just clone the repo to your machine, change this one line to "https://medium.com/*" [1], and then load the extension in your browser.

[0] https://github.com/thebaer/MMRA/issues/15

[1] https://github.com/thebaer/MMRA/blob/master/manifest.json#L2...

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by hoistbypetard on Thursday July 12, 2018 @06:52AM (#17513433)
The proposed fix is a good idea. Reddit Enhancement Suite uses optional permissions that way[1] and the prompts the first time it wants to act on one of the optional sites are not irritating at all.

[1]https://github.com/honestbleeps/Reddit-Enhancement-Suite/blo...

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by thecatspaw on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:42AM (#17512433)
is there no way to ask for these permissions after having the plugin installed allready?

I seem to remember that the Reddit enhancement suite does that

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by mplewis on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:40AM (#17512648)
That's the feature they want someone to write in that GitHub issue.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dredmorbius on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:00AM (#17512083)
An alternative is ... to install onlyone extension that tracks allyour activity everywhere (Stylus), and write or apply CSS stylesheets to fix annoyances.

The set I use.

https://plus.google.com/104092656004159577193/posts/hFzKwoir...

Firefox's Reader mode also works well. (It's among the targets I've restyled.)

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by pmontra on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:17AM (#17512793)
You can also use uBlock to hide parts of a page. It's much easier to use on a phone. Pick the area on screen, possibly select a parent or children in the list on the popup, preview, confirm and it's gone.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dredmorbius on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:52AM (#17515777)
Yep, and I do. Multiple modes, defence in depth.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by amelius on Thursday July 12, 2018 @08:48AM (#17513874)
Would Firefox "containers" solve this problem?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by gok2 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:13PM (#17511921)
agreed
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ErikAugust on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:06AM (#17512307)
I remember maybe 4-5 years ago looking at Medium’s CSS in order to emulate their readability.

Things change.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ronjouch on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:06AM (#17513994)
Firefox users who either dislike the requirement for permission on all sites, or don't want an additional extension: know that you can achieve about the same with a few lines in your userContent.css [1]

  @-moz-document domain(medium.com), domain(backchannel.com), domain(hackernoon.com), domain(mondaynote.com), domain(artplusmarketing.com), domain(codeburst.io), domain(logrocket.com), domain(slack.engineering), regexp("https?://medium\..*") {.js-postShareWidget, .overlay, .overlay--lighter, .postActionsBar, .js-postActionsBar, .metabar, .js-metabar, .postMeterBar, .js-meterBanner, .highlightMenu, .highlightMenu--active, .popover, .js-popover, .popover--dark, .butterBar--privacy, .js-stickyFooter {display: none !important;}}
Obvious gotcha: incomplete list of domains, now you have to add medium domains when you meet them and restart Firefox.

[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=UserContent.css

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by Kalium on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:20AM (#17512163)
Firefox Reader Mode is the thing that I find makes Medium an enjoyable experience. It's so much nicer than Medium ever was.

They should try that design.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by newscracker on Thursday July 12, 2018 @10:57AM (#17515249)
The creator (and maintainers) of Medium ought to crouch in a corner with shame. People (including prominent voices on Twitter and the web) have complained about Medium’s issues for some years. This extension is like one more slap in the face for a platform that started with the premise that:

"There's been less progress toward raising the quality of what's produced." [1]

Quality? Are we going to talk about quality in all its dimensions?

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_(website)#Background

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by otras on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:51PM (#17511831)
Every time this pops up on my radar, I always consider taking a stab at adding the “make articles with gifs better” feature mentioned in the github issue, but I always end up too busy with other work. I’ll carve out some time this weekend to give it a shot. My workload stars are aligned for some open source, and that would be a great feature!
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by hprotagonist on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:56PM (#17511849)
I use the Unobstruct ios app to dedickbar medium. Works quite well.

https://medium.com/@tgaul/introducing-unobstruct-230e4e95cf5...

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by shabbyrobe on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:51AM (#17512903)
Unobstruct is awesome!

On the desktop, Unstick for Firefox gives you a little nuke icon that gets rid of any dickbars anywhere you happen to find them: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/unstickall/

That, plus uBlock Origin's "right click, block element" feature for things I visit regularly, gives me a significantly better Internet experience than I'd otherwise be stuck having.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ronjouch on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:30PM (#17511976)
I use Unobstruct on iOS too and would love an equivalent in my browser. Does anyone know one? (uBlockOrigin-usable blocklist or extension)
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by rainbowmverse on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:55PM (#17512069)
I don't know if the mobile version of uBlock Origin has it, but there's an eye dropper button if you click the uBlock button on the toolbar. You can use that to build block rules automagically. It reminds me of the API spies people used to make for Visual Basic 6.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ronjouch on Thursday July 12, 2018 @08:53AM (#17513897)
Thanks; I know how to make these rules and I have a few, but there's a lot of them (lots of medium domains, and lots of non-medium ones that also deserve the same treatment (de-dickbar-ification), both of them constantly changing) so I'm looking for something assembled & maintained by a community.

I'll get in touch with EasyList folks (there's already a CookieMonster list to get rid of EU cookie clutter, an Unobstruct one would be similar or both could be merged) and the author of Unobstruct.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by AgentOrange1234 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:48PM (#17512041)
Thank you so much for this. I loathe the pardon the interruption window.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by the_imp on Thursday July 12, 2018 @08:11AM (#17513712)
I've put together a Chrome extension that does the same thing, but it requires no permissions and works on all other similar sites as well: Kill-Sticky adds a keyboard shortcut (Alt+K or Cmd+K) that removes all sticky content, and re-enables scrolling.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kill-sticky/lekjlg...

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by Cofike on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:57PM (#17511851)
I just have a bookmarklet that removes any sticky elements.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by wtallis on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:04PM (#17511879)
I've been doing something similar for years, though the implementation method has changed some as my preferred browser and the set of available extensions has shifted. I want to browse the web with a white-list approach to which pages are allowed to display elements that are anchored to screen coordinates rather than scrolling with the page. Generally speaking, the only pages that should be permitted to pin an element in front of the main content are web apps, but most of the pages I visit are (or should be) purely document-oriented.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ZachSaucier on Thursday July 12, 2018 @08:13AM (#17513726)
Why just Medium? Make all articles readable (along with other features) with Just Read: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/just-read/dgmanlpm...

Full disclosure, I'm the developer of Just Read.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by s_trumpet on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:21AM (#17514162)
Just Read is great, and I would be using it a lot more if I wasn't a Firefox guy. Great work, though!
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by mbowcutt on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:08PM (#17517646)
I haven't used the Medium app on my Android device for some weeks now. Today I got a notification about some article and swiped it away. Then later I got another and realized: Wait, I don't normally get Medium notifications!

Not sure what changed but it was a nice reminder to delete the app.

Also, I was unaware that people found Medium to be a suboptimal reading experience.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by cyberferret on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:19PM (#17511940)
I miss the old medium, with it's "Collections" that allowed me to read (and post) articles in specific interest areas.

Somehow the nature of the content back then was much more engaging too. It was as raw as seeing a new band perform for the first time in some dive bar. Now it is just a sanitised pool of sophisticated marketing brochures masquerading as articles.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dethos on Thursday July 12, 2018 @11:02AM (#17515288)
Why not just use the "reader" mode of the browser? (at least in Firefox this works quite well)
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by okket on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:04AM (#17512107)
If you use Safari there is no need for an app or extension.

Just right click (macOS) / long press (iOS) on the "Reader" symbol and activate "Use Reader Automatically on 'medium.com'". Same procedure for any branded domain that uses Medium.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by bluefin on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:20AM (#17512164)
FF also has a "Reader Mode" (F9), though it gets rid of all images.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by spraak on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:51PM (#17511829)
Can it make Medium not ask me to pay for a subscription after N (3 at this time) articles?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by stephengillie on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:13PM (#17511923)
In what ways could Medium have financial income without transferring the wealth from us?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by slig on Thursday July 12, 2018 @05:58AM (#17513271)
Asking its publishers to pay? Like WordPress or Ghost does.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by anant90 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:17PM (#17511935)
Opening in incognito is usually good enough to bypass Medium's paywall.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by terragon on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:03AM (#17512100)
Shh. Lest they fix that bug.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by beilabs on Thursday July 12, 2018 @05:29AM (#17513199)
Does anyone else have issues with images on medium being slow to load, always fuzzy and then taking ages to actually render? Seems like a constant problem for my part of the world.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by known on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:11AM (#17512522)
Change browser user agent general.useragent.override.medium.com to Opera/9.80 (Android; Opera Mini/20.1.2254/37.9178; U; en) Presto/2.12.423 Version/12.16
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by vezycash on Thursday July 12, 2018 @05:31AM (#17513204)
Question:

Would adblockers and mods this extension still work when ad networks and sites like these embrace webassembly?

Would it not be a crime to "reverse engineer" their code?

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by amaccuish on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:35AM (#17513584)
Still haven't got Medium to log me in properly. Keep getting signed out, I assume it's because I block third party cookies...
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by sus_007 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:45PM (#17511805)
When I want a readable Medium, I simply toggle the Firefox's built-in Reader View(Ctrl+Alt+R). It's readable enough for me.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by OoTheNigerian on Thursday July 12, 2018 @02:33AM (#17512624)
Using Brave browser is how I tackle this.. With it you can selectively disable Javascript, ads, etc on any or all sites you visit.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by dvcrn on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:27PM (#17511966)
I think it's interesting that the author bought a domain just for this extension
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by iicc on Thursday July 12, 2018 @07:30AM (#17513547)
What "should" authors be using instead of medium?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by drngdds on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:10AM (#17514043)
Literally any other blogging platform
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by java_script on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:14PM (#17511927)
> A browser extension to make Medium less annoying.

So this just blanks out the articles or what?

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by jasonkostempski on Thursday July 12, 2018 @12:15AM (#17512144)
I went one step further and made myself an FF extension to blank out any links to Medium (and other useless sites) from any page. I forget they exist until I come across one of the countless posts complaining about the suck. Or I realise the reason images and other content arent showing is because it's a custom domain hosted by medium, then they get added to the list.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by Gatsky on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:16PM (#17511933)
This gave me a good laugh. In my domain (healthcare), the articles on Medium are rubbish.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by drngdds on Thursday July 12, 2018 @09:12AM (#17514060)
They're not all that great in the software field, either. 75% of them are just content marketing.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by saudioger on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:22AM (#17512350)
Remember when Medium was supposed to be the height of readability?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by Traubenfuchs on Thursday July 12, 2018 @03:40AM (#17512872)
Was it ever?

I only ever knew it as a showcase of ui&ux anti patterns / dark patterns.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by rhizome31 on Thursday July 12, 2018 @05:20PM (#17518717)
I've always despised Medium.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by vvpan on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:28AM (#17512381)
Yes, this is highly ironic.
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by ericpauley on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:14PM (#17511705)
> Read and change all your data on the websites you visit

Better luck next time.

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by samschooler on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:43PM (#17511801)
You can build it from source if you would like. It needs to do that because some (most) medium posts are not on the medium.com domain.

https://github.com/thebaer/MMRA

Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by Froyoh on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:56PM (#17511847)
What's with everyone using the "Make X Great Again" phrase?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by arbie on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:02PM (#17511869)
I take it you're not from North America?
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by minitech on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:23PM (#17511960)
Yeah, it’s too bad about the name because this extension otherwise seems really good. (Just a minor annoyance, but as you say, one that comes up constantly…)
Re:A browser extension to make Medium more readable by infinityplus1 on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @11:08PM (#17511903)
They are mocking Trump