I think there's a severe problem with this implementation. By using wrapping, I can't write "boobs" and have everyone else read my graffiti without them having having the same zoom wrapping point.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by matthewfcarlson on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @03:08PM
(#40803393)
I spent five minutes writing “hey you, yes you” only to read your comment and realize my message is unparsable for those not on mobile.
These days we say "encrypted" rather than "unparseable".
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by jaggederest on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @04:25PM
(#40804233)
bcdofsteua perhaps.
Encrypted using EBCDIC
¯_ (ツ)_/¯
Here, you dropped this: \
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by tekknolagi on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:04PM
(#40804576)
I made https://shru.gg/r for this reason
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by Vicinity9635 on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:49PM
(#40804998)
You'll likely enjoy "Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed: Japanese style Faces"
╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻
Angry guy flipping a table has always been my favorite.
wait what?
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by rabbitofdeath on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @11:26PM
(#40806893)
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by graeber_28927 on Thursday June 27, 2024 @01:43AM
(#40807625)
┳━┳ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
Φ,Φ
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by unstatusthequo on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @07:45PM
(#40805811)
Posts like this is what makes HN great.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by Vicinity9635 on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:44PM
(#40804944)
What's the r for? reddit (markdown?)
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by moritzwarhier on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:49PM
(#40804997)
There's a link in the bottom-left corner, haven't checked, but reads like an accompanying reddit tool (since there's no real plugin system, guess it's a web app requiring credentials)
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by tekknolagi on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:01PM
(#40805088)
No plugins, just HTML, no credentials
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by moritzwarhier on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:31PM
(#40805337)
Cool!
Sorry that my comment read like an accusation, should have clicked/tapped the link ;)
Not following links is a bad habit easy to pick up on mobile.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by WildGreenLeave on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @11:57PM
(#40807048)
On iOS long pressing a link so it previews is very nice for these kind of things. I only wished you were able to scroll inside that popup/preview.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by tekknolagi on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:01PM
(#40805084)
Reddit (and other fora). The homepage is for non-escaped. There's also /free
I added a Mac keyboard shortcut, so anywhere I type "shrg" it expands to ‾\_(ツ)_/‾
If I need an escaped version, that's "shrgg": ‾\\\_(ツ)\_/‾
Did this ever turn against you when coding?
`std::shared_ptr<Gate> shrg = ...` or similar?
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by fredoliveira on Thursday June 27, 2024 @12:36PM
(#40812361)
‾\_(ツ)_/‾
_/`(ツ)_/¯
walk like an Egyptian
The idea of public canvases has been explored thousands of times: r/place, 1 million pixels,...
This feels like something else, it's ok if it has its own identity, otherwise it devolves/converges into a place to draw dicks in.
It's a rectangular grid. People aren't going to troll with dicks, but swastikas.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by falseprofit on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @08:45PM
(#40806183)
Virtually all monitors are rectangular grids
You could sorta kinda claim that most OLED displays are not rectangular [1], since only green is at full resolution, with blue and red being at a partial resolution, by sharing those sub pixels between "logical" pixels.
[1] https://www.oled-info.com/gs5-diamond-pixel-architecture-not...
Note for anyone confused, this is about AMOLED displays commonly used in phones and some OLED laptops from a few years ago.
W-OLED and QD-OLED have unconventional layouts compared to LCDs but every pixel has the complete set of sub pixels (RGB for QD-OLED, RGBW for W-OLED) so it looks more like this:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F...
Just mentioning as while AMOLED phones being the majority of OLED displays seems plausible to me, it's likely not what people in this thread are picturing when they see OLED.
And yet https://mastodon.scot/@rasteri/112683926331617000 was found within the first 2 hours of the FediVerse post.
Honourable mentions go to the TARDIS picture at https://mstdn.ca/@Chigaze/112683847369819438 and the Sierpiński gasket attempt at https://mastodon.online/@Zotmeister/112684295968651688 .
Shortly after posting this to HN I drew Tux at position 99999. It's long gone now, of course.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by neal_jones on Friday June 28, 2024 @12:21AM
(#40817688)
The dick is humanity’s logo - wherever humankind is, dicks are being drawn
This problem is traditionally solved by attempting to teach the aliens how to decode the pattern inside the pattern itself. For example a rendering might look like
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x _ _ x _ x _ x x x _ x _ x _ _ x _ x _ x x x _ x _ x _ _ x
x _ _ x _ x _ x _ _ _ x _ x _ _ x _ x _ x _ x _ x _ x _ _ x
x _ _ x x x _ x x _ _ x x x _ _ x x x _ x _ x _ x _ x _ _ x
x _ _ x _ x _ x _ _ _ _ x _ _ _ _ x _ _ x _ x _ x _ x _ _ x
x _ _ x _ x _ x x x _ _ x _ _ _ _ x _ _ x x x _ x x x _ _ x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
x _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ x
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
So then they will hopefully alight upon the idea of looking at the code two-dimensionally, and adjust their browser width until the lines all line up, at which point they get the custom message.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by sillysaurusx on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @10:48PM
(#40806727)
How long did you spend crafting this comment? Be honest.
I could imagine doing that with Vim, but I don’t think I could do it in less than ten minutes. And then I’d get sidetracked about whether to represent empty checkboxes with _ or - or a Unicode box.
Thank you so much for this. I wonder, at a global level, how many potentially productive man-minutes will be wasted thanks to your comment.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by ultracakebakery on Thursday June 27, 2024 @06:41AM
(#40809085)
I thought the same thing
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by anon533783 on Thursday June 27, 2024 @08:42AM
(#40809856)
┌───────────────────────┐
│ https://asciiflow.com │
└───────────────────────┘Can be pretty fast if you know your tools well :)
Just tried in VSCode; 2:38min using its fabulous multiline editing. 1:34min on second try due to practice
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by pavel_lishin on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @09:18PM
(#40806365)
Wouldn't it be slightly simpler to use a prime number of rows and columns?
Slightly, yes! The Arecibo message was 73×23 bits, with the hope that the aliens would break lines after 23 bits. But,
i f . t h e s
n e i l a . e
s . l i k e .
o r t s u o b
p h e d o n .
w . r e d r o
e . a r e . k
c s . a d n i
r e w e d . o
a . e h t . n
r e c i b o .
e g a s s e m
. a n y w a y
Not enough boustrophedon order comments on HN, congrats.
I like 'conventional' order, and I could figure out your message block.
Give the aliens some credit, they might figure it out.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by madcaptenor on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:31AM
(#40810309)
IIRC these messages usually have their dimensions equal to primes, to help the aliens a little bit - for example the Arecibo message was 1679 = 73 * 23 bits. We're hoping the aliens have the sense to recognize a product of two primes.
If you used a prime number instead of 30 (e.g. 29) then the aliens would spend less time checking the factors of 30 (15, 10, 6, 5, 3, 2).
Morse code would do the trick!
One check for short, two checks for long, two blanks for end-of-character.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by paulddraper on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @02:19PM
(#40802845)
We need community consensus on checkboxes per line
43. 43 per line.
42
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by chromoblob on Thursday June 27, 2024 @07:05AM
(#40809205)
}}~
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by altairprime on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @04:23PM
(#40804214)
That sounds like a feature.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by CobrastanJorji on Thursday June 27, 2024 @02:34AM
(#40807927)
No, no, it's a feature. Your message has been cleverly hidden behind a modern day scytale cipher. Intended recipients must know the correct screen width.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by some_random on Thursday June 27, 2024 @03:06PM
(#40813891)
The other problem is that there are a bunch of people here running scripts to automatically erase anything you do in the name of checking every box
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by the_snooze on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @01:07PM
(#40802110)
This is very reminiscent of old defrag tools. Keep this running in the background, for old time's sake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR3TbL3Tl6M
The HDD sound doesn't correspond to the defragging :(
i spun up 5 more servers and pushed some optimizations and i think it's gonna be ok for a bit.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by CodeWriter23 on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @03:51PM
(#40803914)
I think you just hit the 640K problem.
hn hug of death in full action. currently unable to visit. all the best working it out tho!
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by PROgrammerTHREE on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @04:12PM
(#40804127)
white screen of death for me :(
Would be fun to read a writeup of how you implemented it.
it's a tiny flask server, a bitset stored in redis, updates broadcast (too frequently! but i don't want to change it now) via websockets, and react-window to only render the checkboxes that are in view.
I'll do a writeup when i finish putting out fires!
for future readers, i ended up swapping things out and batching my updates. spooky to do live, but helped a lot with performance
You could sell T-shirts to cover your costs:
A T-shirt with a checked box on the front an unchecked box on the back.
A T-shirt with an unchecked box on the front and a checked box on the back.
You have two bits, which clearly results in four shirts.
Fun challenge: userscript to make an animated fire out of checkboxes
userscript to make real fire on hosted server for bonus points
I don't think you can put out a fire like this. Should have tried some kind of webrtc and Kademilia network and crypto to eventually communicate all updates.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by green-eclipse on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @04:53PM
(#40804484)
I don't understand, where is the AI + LLM part
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by lobsterthief on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:24PM
(#40804757)
Each time a checkbox is checked, a backend job asks ChatGPT to analyze the board state and write a script using Brainfuck that updates the checkbox states and runs it directly in production.
AI LLM cloud crypto.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by crazygringo on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:15PM
(#40805199)
You said crypto but you forgot where running it in production writes the checkbox change event to the blockchain. Checkbox display states only get read from the blockchain, obvi. Otherwise how could it possibly be secure
Checkboxcoin will be a separate product though, that's for the funding
How can I pump? 3 months from now I should dump.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by Vicinity9635 on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:48PM
(#40804979)
retching noises
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by adhamsalama on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @10:18PM
(#40806608)
You forgot to add NFTs.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by teractiveodular on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @10:52PM
(#40806751)
But can I mint an NFT of my checkbox designs?
Actual Intelligence + Logical Language Manifestation
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by TheCraiggers on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:09PM
(#40804610)
But how did you do this without (ab)using a blockchain? You'll never get get funding like this...
> react-window
I'm confused, I read everyday on hacker news that react is the slowest JS framework ever made. Seems fine to me.
By the performance of it, probably some bloated server-side Javascript running on a toaster.
that's not fair it's a slow python server running across 5 toasters
How else do you propose a toaster generate heat to make the toast? At least it's not the thermostat so it thinks the AC needs to constantly be running. So there's quite a bit of positive logic in the toaster decision
Funny, a websockes hell!
Can you port it to Nostr? Could be an interesting stress-test
The devtools console is chaos
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by thomasfromcdnjs on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @12:51PM
(#40801960)
What are you running that can handle that many websocket connections/messages?
just a bunch of little flask servers lmao i thought I'd get like 50 people on this thing tops
I've been having it out with someone clicking my green box. The rage grows playing this.
So it's you unchecking my box?!?!
basically anything that supports async/event-based would work just fine on a $10/mo vps
just ban all those jerks who keep unchecking
Before I read your comment, I was looking for a way to uncheck all at once :)
You announced it on the FediVerse, where it has already been boosted almost 700 times as I write this 4 hours later, and it spread to Reddit within 2 hours of that, as you know because you replied to the Reddit post. There is definitely going to be an initial spike of activity, given those. (-:
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by adaptbrian on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:20PM
(#40805232)
Love seeing things go viral off the fediverse, it's not designed to push the end of the spectrum out and more organic examples like this might help bring another layer of user adoption.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by sillysaurusx on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:10PM
(#40804618)
Out of curiosity, what’s the Reddit thread?
I suspect it's this one:
https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetIsBeautiful/comments/1dp4t7...
By the way, Reddit allows you to track which communities a domain has been shared in, very interesting. This is how I quickly found it:
Ironically, I was looking to see whether Hacker News and anyone else had picked it up, from the FediVerse post. Bing found the Reddit thread from "One Million Checkboxes" as the search query. It's the second search result as I type this.
Other interesting Bing search results are Arnold Trakhtenberg's re-creation of the WWW site code using Convex, at https://github.com/atrakh/one-million-checkboxes .
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by assimpleaspossi on Thursday June 27, 2024 @03:14AM
(#40808139)
I'm glad about that. Should keep Reddit type people occupied for days.
> more popular than i expected
we know what's important here on hn
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by sillysaurusx on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:14PM
(#40804658)
Is it ok if I try to write a script to uncheck all the boxes? I don’t want to spam your server and ruin it for everyone if there’s no rate limiting.
(I wince mentioning this publicly; still have flashback trauma from when some HNer wrote a script to download as much data as possible from our Firebase and got a $1k bill overnight.)
Stop that script, I'm watching you ruin the board!
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by sillysaurusx on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:18PM
(#40804691)
I haven’t opened my laptop yet. But it’s inevitable someone will write one.
Either there's some kind of update batching or it's already happening.
Hi! Sorry it took me a bit to get to this, I've been hacking to keep the server up for the last several hours.
Lots of people are botting, I don't think there's anything wrong if you bot too. There's a tiny bit of client-side rate limiting and originally i had server side rate limiting too, but I got rid of that a while ago (I was cutting anything I could to speed things up).
Haha. Cutting rate limiting to speed things up
alright yes this sounds funny now but at the time my rate-limiting implementation was very slow!
(it's back in and faster now)
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by throwaway14356 on Saturday June 29, 2024 @05:15AM
(#40828901)
the worse thing is already happening
Oh my god that sounds like my worst nightmare.. this is why I'm scared to death with these pay as you solutions
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @07:55PM
(#40805876)
If you have time, one cool suggestion for gamification would be to do a SHA-256 hash of the binary values of the checkboxes and display current hash and the lowest hash so far.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by bobmcnamara on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @08:30PM
(#40806097)
One whole megabit!
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by wordToDaBird on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @09:39PM
(#40806457)
Just an idea, but make it an internet game. Have a level 2,3,4.
The question is under what circumstances should that game switch to the next version. The idea I had was if all 1Million boxes are unchecked, but this is the internet someone would make it their life’s mission to keep one box checked.
IDK, I think you hinted upon something fun that we all like, it’s the Twitch vs thing, where everyone can interact and our total capacity makes the experience. This is also like the reddit/r/place which was also very fun.
I think you have a genuinely interesting idea, how can you grow it, nurture and change it to hit the true itch of humanity?
I love some stats and details on this, what kind of traffic are you seeing etc. Do you have a way to determine how many boxes in your visitor checks/unchecks? 97% of your pictures from Hacker News etc. Congrats on the hit!!!! Fun playing with it!!!
Congrats!!
How much is all this costing you?
I am very late to this but as of now I think it has cost me about $85, although that will go up a little more quickly once I go through the bandwidth buffer I have with digital ocean (shouldn't be too bad tho)
Thanks for the reply! That's actually less than I would have guessed.
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by giancarlostoro on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:09AM
(#40810101)
What's the backend look like for this? :)
Re:One Million Checkboxes
by daynthelife on Thursday June 27, 2024 @10:59AM
(#40811264)
Can you make the checkboxes indexed from zero?
(Maybe I am too dogmatic)
this is....more popular than i expected. the server's gonna be having some problems for a while