News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by input_sh on Sunday November 20, 2022 @08:58AM (#33680898)
Unrealistic.

Not a single person complained about link not working with JavaScript disabled.

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by timeon on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:12AM (#33681013)
Since it was missing there I realized how am I overusing '[-]' instead of scrolling. Like Tarzan swing on vines.

(Also is this relavant or am I just piggy-backing your top comment?)

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by starkd on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:40AM (#33681225)
Wow. I just realized the [-] feature. This changes everything about HN!
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by anon7725 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @01:00PM (#33683375)
And I just realized “root|parent|prev|next” despite being ride or die with [-]
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by jason-phillips on Sunday November 20, 2022 @01:18PM (#33683596)
I call it the "minimize bullshit" feature. Reddit also has it.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by starkd on Sunday November 20, 2022 @08:41PM (#33687664)
I might actually read more of the top level comments below the first one now.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by nicky0 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:16AM (#33681046)
In 10 years of reading hacker news I never thought to press the [-] until this moment.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by thatwasunusual on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:37AM (#33681193)
> In 10 years of reading hacker news I never thought to press the [-] until this moment.

I thought you had to click the [-]. How do I press the [-]?

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by jcpham2 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:40AM (#33681759)
I don’t understand if I should click or press [-] What does it do?
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by _hyn3 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:05AM (#33682016)
Don't do it! If I understand it correctly, every time you use it, it takes away one of your valuable internet points.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by thatwasunusual on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:25AM (#33682269)
A friend of mine did this too many times. He is in rehab now. His wife left him, his liberal left kids commited suicide etc. Harsh times.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by thatwasunusual on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:26AM (#33682279)
How can you click OR press something?
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by kergonath on Sunday November 20, 2022 @05:05PM (#33685925)
> I thought you had to click the [-].

I cannot click anything on my phone.

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by perihelions on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:35AM (#33681176)
They didn't have that feature here ten years ago; it's a relatively recent addition (and [next]/[prev] are newer still).
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by tomger on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:36AM (#33681185)
I always assumed [-] subtracted a point from that comment.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by turbonaut on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:30AM (#33681651)
Doesn’t [-] set it to zero?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by RheingoldRiver on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:26AM (#33682273)
[-] collapses the replies so that you can easily see what's next. On reddit the equivalent functionality is a button literally called "hide child comments."

But as another comment mentioned, you can click root | parent | prev | next to get navigated through the thread. Personally, I prefer the collapse, though, as having the top of my screen move without my direct control is a bit jarring, but there's more functionality from these buttons.

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by geoduck14 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:58AM (#33682706)
Important fact: The [-] does not remove a point. After you get 500 points, you earn the privilege of down voting, you will get a "down triangle" underneath the "up vote up triangle" that you can click on.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by hoosieree on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:44AM (#33681244)
Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1053/
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by jwilk on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:53AM (#33681308)
Kinda relevant, because [-] doesn't work with JS disabled. :-P
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by tempodox on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:58AM (#33690811)
It could, however, with CSS like this: https://iamkate.com/code/tree-views/
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by mariushn on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:11PM (#33697986)
I don't think Firefox or IE properly support it yet :P
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by jwilk on Monday November 21, 2022 @05:28PM (#33698995)
Discussed on HN:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33667270 (2 days ago, 68 comments)

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by neonihil on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:53AM (#33681310)
Most useful comment on the whole thread. Thanks for the tip about the [-].
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by still_grokking on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:33PM (#33687993)
It can be even better. With a little bit more JavaScript.

https://github.com/plibither8/refined-hacker-news

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by andreareina on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:58AM (#33681943)
Have you heard about our lord and savior root|parent|prev|next ?
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by mdp2021 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:18AM (#33682165)
> our lord and savior root|parent|prev|next

You are welcome! My very small contribution to the system (I asked and "pushed" for it) - of course, Dang and/or his team implemented it. It is pleasant to read about it in such appreciative terms.

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by andreareina on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:39PM (#33688044)
Hey that's awesome! They work really, really well for the way I read HN. Thanks for suggesting this, and thanks to 'dang et al for the implementation!
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by eternalban on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:54PM (#33688144)
You've earned true universe karma points there. Thank you.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by marginalia_nu on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:07AM (#33680981)
I wish they would just rewrite the website in a safe language like Rust.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by aklein on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:12AM (#33681014)
I have stuff to say about JIT.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by dweekly on Sunday November 20, 2022 @12:29PM (#33683085)
I have a correction to your understanding of JIT.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by rpastuszak on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:16AM (#33681050)
*zig

Rust feels too 2019

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by mirekrusin on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:35AM (#33681180)
As a ruby guy, does it really matter which language it's written in if it works?
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by thatwasunusual on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:37AM (#33681199)
As a Perl guy: yes. :(
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by Kye on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:51AM (#33681293)
There is no escape.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by wruza on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:30AM (#33681660)
As a Perl guy: yes. :(

Warning all, don’t paste this into your shell!

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by thdespou on Monday November 21, 2022 @02:31PM (#33696807)
I would love to talk about zig!
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by geoduck14 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @12:20PM (#33682980)
Or PHP
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by unionpivo on Monday November 21, 2022 @11:05AM (#33694070)
And lets put the comments on the blockchain.

Everything is better with blockchainTM

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by matheusmoreira on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:22AM (#33681086)
I'm just replying here to piggyback on the top comment and create a pointer to this thread in my CheckRepliesToMyComments page.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by InCityDreams on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:36AM (#33681183)
Obligatory xkcd reference.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by breck on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:48AM (#33681271)
I predicted something similar a long time ago (2022) here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680851
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by xeromal on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:30AM (#33681147)
Or back button hijack
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by zozbot234 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:36AM (#33681182)
Off-topic aside, but why do people complain about back-button hijack when you can long-press or right-click and get out of the site? It works on any browser AIUI.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by sokoloff on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:41AM (#33681230)
Why do sites do a back-button hijack if it’s possible to use the long-press menu-select feature?

Because it’s nowhere near equally convenient or standard to do so.

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by efreak on Sunday November 20, 2022 @08:47PM (#33687711)
1. Long press doesn't show full history, it limits to 10-15(? Might be more). I've seen the occasional scummy background script that exploits this with numerous scripted redirects (usually pages with seo snippets cloned from SO). You have to disable the network to go back without being re-redirected, then go through a couple rounds of the back button history to get back to your original page.

2. If you're not using a full browser or are set up to keep a short history, you're basically SOL (Materialistic for HN has a built-in WebView, and I've used similar apps for other sites)

3. I shouldn't have to use history just because some site decided that it should add multiple history entries when I tried to scroll down an infinite list. I'm only on your website because it showed up in a search result, I'm not here to browse other unrelated content.

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by searchableguy on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:53AM (#33681312)
It's understandable given this parody thread is over a decade old.

It's before javascript really took off.

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by antihero on Sunday November 20, 2022 @09:57AM (#33681339)
Not a single person went on about vue
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by jablala on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:30AM (#33681663)
No Svelte either, I'm in shambles.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by Justin_K on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:13AM (#33681488)
This.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by giancarlostoro on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:18AM (#33681539)
As a JavaScript guy, does this really matter for 95% of the world?
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by slowmotiony on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:19AM (#33681542)
I appreciate the juicy center of good humor inside your comment of rage. Maybe the following will help. You're right, of course. It's just that there are competing values, so we have to make a tradeoff. One value is usability and having web content be less annoying, intrusive, abusive, and so on. No disagreement there. I think most HN readers share similar feelings about these things; certainly I do. The other value is curiosity. Curiosity likes new things, different things [0], unexpected things—things it can learn from. It doesn't do so well with repetition [1], indignation, or genericness [2]. These two values conflict because complaints about the former tend to be repetitive, indignant, and generic. How to decide the conflict? That question actually has a clear answer, because we're trying to optimize for just one thing here, namely intellectual curiosity [3]. So that value has to win. This is one of those cases where it's super helpful to have just one thing you're optimizing for and to know exactly what it is. It's not that this is the 'right' decision, the 'correct' guideline, or anything like that—it's just correct relative to what we're trying to optimize for.

[0] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by ironmagma on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:21AM (#33681565)
Or about how React bloatware introduces tens of petabytes of completely unnecessary dependencies, is destroying the Web, a perfectly-designed hypertext platform for linking documents together for reading on all manner of devices from screenreaders to Braille interfaces and toaster ovens.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by anon7725 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @01:03PM (#33683411)
Nodding along .... - “oh shit this is a parody thread”
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by divbzero on Sunday November 20, 2022 @01:44PM (#33683872)
Or how they should have implemented the backend in Rust: memory-safe, more performant, more awesome.
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by weinzierl on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:35AM (#33681703)
... and no one about site's contrast or scroll hijacking...
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by wooque on Sunday November 20, 2022 @10:42AM (#33681775)
Or complained about accessibility
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by weego on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:31AM (#33682346)
Also missing:

How does this compare to X? (where X is an obscure project on github with no documentation of what it's feature boundaries are, has at best 1000 stars and further internet sleuthing suggests its at best only tangentially associated with the original comments domain.

The end result being the author feels obliged to figure it out and reply incase not doing so seems arrogant and/or poorly educated in the domain)

Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by juped on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:51AM (#33682612)
Oh no, not a mere 1000 Facebook likes!
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by acqbu on Sunday November 20, 2022 @12:11PM (#33682854)
Why isn't this at the top?
Re:Hacker News Parody Thread by kergonath on Sunday November 20, 2022 @05:03PM (#33685910)
Even worse, not a single comment about Rust and use-after-free bugs.