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Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by goldenarm on Monday June 29, 2026 @04:46PM (#48724993)
Remember when the .tk TLD became free 20 years ago ? Every hobbyist took one, then scammers followed, then Facebook and antiviruses started blocking it.

I remember publishing a website for a class on my .tk domain, the teacher couldn't open it and I almost got a failing grade because of it.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by AFF87 on Monday June 29, 2026 @05:40PM (#48725657)
What a memory you have unlocked. They were everywhere. I remember the urban legend that .tk domains were X% of their GDP
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by captn3m0 on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:10PM (#48725985)
10% apparently for .tk. I also remember .tv windfall, which is 8-9% of their GDP.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by artursapek on Monday June 29, 2026 @07:32PM (#48726693)
The .ai TLD is some tiny island with a few thousand people
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by gerdesj on Monday June 29, 2026 @07:48PM (#48726829)
.io is (British) Indian Ocean (Territory).
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by artursapek on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:39PM (#48727590)
haha yeah I've bet the last 12 months of my career on a .io
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by dcow on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:49PM (#48727656)
I always thought these TLDs were a flight risk to be used in any serious capacity. What if the random state decides you/your business are in violation of [whatever] and kick you off?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by vasco on Monday June 29, 2026 @11:05PM (#48728069)
What if an elephant steps on the power cable to the server room?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by aloisklink on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @01:39AM (#48728862)
The owners of `queer.af` thought that AF only meant “as f*ck”, without realizing that AF also happens to the be the ISO 3166 code for a country controlled by the Taliban, who didn’t like their domain name [1].

Brits that had `.eu` domains lost their domains due to Brexit [2] (unless they had some other EEA ties).

And if the Chagos deal goes ahead [3] and the British Indian Ocean Territory ceases to exist, then all `.io` domains might disappear too (although considering that `.su`/Soviet Union domains are still a thing, they probably would have stayed around).

[1]: https://www.404media.co/taliban-shuts-down-queer-af-domain-b...

[2]: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/registering-and-renewing-eu-doma...

[3]: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9m47y1ez2o

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by reddalo on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:59AM (#48729394)
>Brits that had `.eu` domains lost their domains due to Brexit

Ouch, that must've hurt. Brexit is the most stupid thing that Britain has ever imposed on itself.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Y_Y on Friday July 03, 2026 @08:42AM (#48774320)
After the restoration of the monarchy of course
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Symbiote on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @03:10AM (#48729460)
Assuming the British/American air base remains on some agreement with the Mauritian government, then the Chagos Islands may remain as a special territory of Mauritius, justifying the continual existence of an ISO 3166 code for it.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by aloisklink on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @05:37AM (#48744335)
Actually, Diego Garcia (the British/American military base) already has it's own ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code, DG: [1]

It's "Exceptionally reserved" "at the request of International Telecommunication Union (ITU)".

Although my gut feeling is that if the deal happens, Mauritius would probably ask to exceptionally reserve `IO` as well. Still, I'm not sure if I'd risk using a `.io` domain since it's not guaranteed.

[1]: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:DG

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by kamma4434 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @01:40AM (#48728870)
I seem to remember bit.ly had some issues when turmoil happened in Libya
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by reddalo on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:57AM (#48729386)
Notion just migrated from their Somali domain to a normal .com
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by sneak on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @04:53AM (#48730092)
My latest domain (five chars!) that I am actually using recently went down because my registrar is (was?) in Gaza.

The registry thankfully was able to sort it out and I was able to get it back and registered with a regisrar not currently being actively genocided.

I felt like a real dick, emailing people in Gaza in 2026 how to renew my domain.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by botfriendsarent on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:18PM (#48734913)
What if they sent out a hit squad to your house?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Y_Y on Friday July 03, 2026 @08:41AM (#48774314)
Anguilla
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by tyre on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:39PM (#48726280)
And the .sy boom until startups got enough heat for, you know, funding the Assad regime.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by RobotToaster on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:51PM (#48726378)
Apparently nobody cares that .af is now funding the Taliban
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by yieldcrv on Monday June 29, 2026 @07:17PM (#48726602)
The terms of using that tld say it must comply with Sharia law

pretty strict and apparently the Minister of that agency doesnt care that .af is a domain hack for “as fuck” in the west

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by aussieguy1234 on Monday June 29, 2026 @07:45PM (#48726791)
In other words, he doesn't give a fuck
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by rezonant on Monday June 29, 2026 @08:56PM (#48727324)
yeah it was right there
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by foxylad on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:34PM (#48727557)
Perhaps he does - dontgive.af does not resolve.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by ShinyLeftPad on Monday June 29, 2026 @11:47PM (#48728292)
1. Be Sharia law

2. Sell domain name that's against Sharia law

3. Retake it back when someone buys it, because it's against the law

4. Repeat and profit

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Gagarin1917 on Monday June 29, 2026 @11:51PM (#48728306)
What website/service actually uses that?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by progval on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:48AM (#48728589)
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by BLKNSLVR on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @01:15AM (#48728731)
During Pride Month?!?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by RobotToaster on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @06:52AM (#48730849)
I thought that ended up being because the registrar didn't pay it's bill to the Afghan government?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by preisschild on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:17PM (#48726063)
Core memory unlocked

Not enough allowance to fund a .com domain, had to use freenom / tk + cloudflare for my first years of self hosting

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by cj on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:29PM (#48726181)
Double unlock.

In the mid 2000’s, I moderated a domain name discussion forum in exchange for free hosting. “X forum posts per month = x gb of bandwidth”

My goal was to post enough for them to give me WHM access so I could try to resell it.

Those were the days.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by dinkleberg on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:36PM (#48726254)
Those were the days indeed. A big part for me is probably because I was a teen at the time with little responsibility, but getting to be a part of the wild west days of the internet was a magical experience.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by cj on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:40PM (#48726293)
Magical indeed!

I once mailed $70 cash (multiple months of allowance) to someone to code a MVP of something I wanted to build.

They ripped me off and disappeared.

And… that’s when I decided I needed to learn to code!

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by s-skl on Monday June 29, 2026 @07:52PM (#48726862)
Somewhere out there is a developer telling this exact same story. ‘I once agreed to build an MVP for a kid who promised to mail me cash. Never showed up. And THAT’S when I decided to get a real job.’
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by cj on Monday June 29, 2026 @07:54PM (#48726889)
Except I mailed the cash in advance! It’s okay, it was probably another 14 year old.

My parents were not happy when I told them I sent cash to a stranger. I remember having to do it in secret because they were very not okay with the idea that you can meet strangers online. Hah.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by bsammon on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @01:19AM (#48728751)
I think they're describing a scenario where the cash was stolen by a postal worker or for some other reason didn't make the full trip.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by olmo23 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:42AM (#48729270)
I once got half a bitcoin on IRC for coding up a website scraper.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by hahahaa on Monday June 29, 2026 @10:21PM (#48727855)
In my case, ignorance unlocked. I never heard of tk and I remember 36k modems so old enough.

I think reason is I went to work, slung .NET and didn't think much about computers otherwise except occasional reading some C++ books for "fun".

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by preisschild on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @06:39AM (#48730749)
> In my case, ignorance unlocked. I never heard of tk and I remember 36k modems so old enough.

Might be too old then. I used my parents speedy ADSL modem (4mbit/s down, 1mbit/s up) :D

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by necovek on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:09AM (#48732241)
Probably: I similarly go back to 2400bps modems (9600 and 14400 when dial-up internet showed up here — 33.6k was the time of soft/winmodems other than the ultra expensive US Robotics ;)), and I skipped the .tk domains too — probably already employed and in possession of 10 .org/.net domains by then.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by DonHopkins on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:51PM (#48726373)
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Peacefulz on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @06:03AM (#48730543)
I was hoping to see the classic doctor redirect banner when I hit that link. Still so very cool that they kept their domain active this whole time!
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mghackerlady on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:49AM (#48732745)
that's the first thing I thought of when I saw .tk. I may just be too tclish, however
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by tamimio on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:35PM (#48726236)
tk and cc, the domains i used to use for php reverse shell haha, bring back memories!
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by paxcoder on Monday June 29, 2026 @05:30PM (#48725533)
>One Person, One Subdomain
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by singpolyma3 on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:47PM (#48726342)
Indeed. That's the necessary
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by HumanCCF on Monday June 29, 2026 @06:51PM (#48726375)
Yes, one of the key principles we follow is that all the perks we aim to provide must come with some limit to prevent abuse.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mort96 on Monday June 29, 2026 @08:23PM (#48727079)
A friend almost failed an IT class because his website didn't render at all in IE6. This was during the time of IE9. The teacher just hadn't updated their browser in a long time.

I don't get how you get to be an IT teacher without knowing the most basic troubleshooting steps to get assignments to run.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mathstuf on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:12AM (#48728406)
Heh…I once was in a state-level coding event (it was a small portion of a larger competition) where half of the test was turning in code on a CD during the competition, with the written half during the event. My CD was deemed unusable for whatever reason (it had worked on XP and Fedora 6 or 7 at home) and didn't count towards my score. I still got second in the event. I declined to continue because I couldn't trust that the judges would be able judge my submission fairly and that with half of my score missing I still got second that I didn't need to prove anything else at the cost of more after-school practice hours and wrecking my perfect attendance record during my senior year to travel to nationals.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by rogerrogerr on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:22AM (#48728464)
Does high school attendance matter for anything? Genuine question. Always seemed like pre-college schooling always wanted you to think everything was more important long-term than it really was.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by repeekad on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @01:23AM (#48728769)
It’s needed to get into college and that’s it, which is needed to get your first maybe second job and that’s it, which is needed to…
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by 71bw on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:59AM (#48729397)
...attendance? I landed a spot in likely the best economics uni in Poland while having 52% attendance in my final HS year, out of which perhaps 10% of the absence was due to illness.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Tor3 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @06:23AM (#48730657)
It all depends on the country and the local rules, which can also change from year to year. Attendence didn't matter much, if at all, in my day, but right now it matters. Extremely so. Student's couldn't, until this year (when this was finally revised) even visit the school nurse without getting a "no attendance", which would count negatively with respect to the mandatory attendance requirement for advancing further. And even for receiving the common stipend.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by misnome on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:12AM (#48732284)
It goes in your permanent Record Of Achievement! I was always told that this would be very a very important set of documents once I left school, and I am sure that I have no reason to doubt their statements!
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mghackerlady on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:45AM (#48732696)
Not really, but you can get in trouble for truancy if it becomes a big problem (where I'm from, that was 3 unexcused absences or any absences without a doctor's note after 10. In practice, however, this wasn't that enforced)
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by toast0 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:43AM (#48733399)
Many states pay school districts based on attendance.

Attendance typically correlates with classroom success.

Attendance avoids truancy proceedings.

One of the kids in my elementary school got a hat for perfect attendance through 6th grade.

I've never seen attendance shown on a transcript though, but you could fill some space on a resume with it, especially if you have the hat to show for it.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by rcxdude on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:07PM (#48734729)
An emphasis on perfect attendance can be harmful, though, if it means students come in when they are sick and spread it to the rest of class.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by jon-wood on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @05:42AM (#48730410)
I dropped out of college (the UK version, I guess equivalent to senior high school in the US) shortly after discovering that the final assessment of my Computing project would be performed by the examiner reading a printed version of the source code, without ever executing it, because the exam board were so scared of examiners computers being destroyed.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mghackerlady on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:43AM (#48732667)
When was this? If this was before virtualisation was common I can maybe understand that but any time in the last 20 years is pretty dumb and the last 10 so braindead I question if they would've been able to judge things properly
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by jon-wood on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:25AM (#48733160)
Oh this was in 2000, when virtualisation was only just becoming accessible so I can get of get the justification. It still made the entire exercise in writing some software feel pointless when I knew it would never get executed by anyone but myself.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by L_226 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @11:00AM (#48733678)
Reminds me of Lord Vetinari from Discworld, reading sheet music instead of listening to adulterated performances by fat sweaty men squeezing the music through some tubes.

Executing the code in your head removed from the nuances of hardware, CPU architecture and compiler versions seems like a virtuous pursuit (?)

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by zbentley on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:09PM (#48734758)
> Executing the code in your head removed from the nuances of hardware, CPU architecture and compiler versions seems like a virtuous pursuit

…and that’s how we got Java :p

And stuff like Pascal, too, so it’s not all bad.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by alfiedotwtf on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @11:21AM (#48748356)
You haven’t lived life until you’ve sat a Data Structures and Algorithms exam having to write all coding solutions with paper and pen
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by csense on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @08:21AM (#48731693)
Perfect attendance is not a good goal to aspire to. Kids force themselves (or get forced by parents) to go to school while sick, which is probably bad for their health and also risks everybody else's health.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Cpoll on Monday June 29, 2026 @08:36PM (#48727163)
I had a similar class where they threatened to fail us if we didn't use Dreamweaver and instead wrote our own html.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by HerbManic on Monday June 29, 2026 @08:50PM (#48727272)
Dreamweaver was cool as a beginner because it took a lot of the troublesome parts out of the equation. But it did end up being more of a hindrance than a benefit the further you went in.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by bandrami on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @01:44AM (#48728895)
What were these "troublesome parts"? The whole point of HTML's design is that it's incredibly easy for a human to write correctly.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by notpushkin on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:18AM (#48729114)
There was a ton of... not exactly footguns, just things to keep in mind if you’ve wanted your site to work as you intended in all browsers. The webcompat nowadays is way better now.

That said, personally I’ve never understood Dreamweaver either. By the time I tried it, I’ve already got used to Notepad++ and writing HTML by hand, so I’ve just treated it as another text editor... and IIRC it just felt way more laggy than Notepad++, with a browser preview panel that took half of my 4:3 display. Maybe I’d discover some cool features if I’ve spent some more time in it? I dunno.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by lolc on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @06:25AM (#48730664)
> The whole point of HTML's design is that it's incredibly easy for a human to write correctly.

A lot of people (me included) used text editors to write HTML. The process was not easy, and the results mostly not correct.

HTML at the time was intended as an application of SGML. This is the first example of HTML from RFC 1866 that laid out HTML 2.0 in 1995:

    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
    <title>Parsing Example</title>
    <p>Some text. <em>&#42;wow&#42;</em></p>
Using an HTML editor was required if you wanted to get anywhere near that standard.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by bandrami on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @07:09AM (#48730973)
> HTML at the time was intended as an application of SGML

Worse, it was an extended superset (ha!) of SGML. At least 20 years ago, SGML::Parser would reject some valid HTML documents.

That said, it was really easy to type correctly in a text editor (especially compared to actual SGML), particularly one that indented and matched tags for you.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mort96 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:31AM (#48729188)
I never understood Dreamweaver. The first thing it asked me when making a new website was ... what the resolution of my user's screen is? I don't know that!
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by jon-wood on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @05:39AM (#48730390)
Its web development software from the 90s/00s, a period when websites were built by first having a designer meticulously mock everything up in Photoshop on a 640x480 canvas (maybe 800x600 or 1024x768 in later days), that mockup would then be handed over to a web developer (hi, that was me) who would take that mockup, slice it up into a billion little images, and then put them in a wildly complex set of nested HTML tables. The designer would then have a look over it and provide critique on the fact some element was 3px misaligned, or the font size was incorrect.

During this period I was berated by our studio lead for using new fangled technologies like CSS layout that could adapt to different sized screens instead of sticking to the trusty HTML soup Dreamweaver would spit out.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Jeremy1026 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:09PM (#48736792)
Don't worry, designers still complain about something being 3px off, or a font being weight 700 instead of 800.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by ranger_danger on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:33PM (#48741681)
This is exactly how I remember my early webdev days. Before Dreamweaver we were using NetObjects Fusion.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by reddalo on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:56AM (#48729372)
Just like AI vibecoded websites... Good luck understanding the code when the AI bubble explodes and you can't afford the insane price that AI will have by then.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by layla5alive on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:18PM (#48727469)
Was that class taught by a certain woman who had a business making websites, per-chance?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by dcow on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:39PM (#48727588)
You just described my teacher, and I’m fairly certain we didn’t go to the same middle school.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by layla5alive on Monday July 13, 2026 @03:06AM (#48888930)
Probably not, but then again, it's a small world! What state? Northeast?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by dcow on Wednesday July 22, 2026 @10:50AM (#49007732)
Midwest.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by arsenicwater on Monday June 29, 2026 @08:44PM (#48727217)
Were they paying for the Dreamweaver licenses?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by anon7000 on Monday June 29, 2026 @11:57PM (#48728328)
When I had web design a bit after 2010, they still used Dreamweaver and yeah you could get a license for free via the university. That’s pretty normal (eg giving you a Visual Studio license, Office, all that). It was more crazy that the course was so incredibly basic (nothing more than static page building in dreamweaver) at this college compared to the other one I later transferred to
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by nekusar on Monday June 29, 2026 @08:50PM (#48727273)
Please. Universities have students by the short and curlies. They can academically do basically whatever they want, and fail you for not complying. Professors can even demand their book be purchased, and fail for not buying the book.

Most universities are unethical shitholes that can do basically whatever they want to gatekeep a diploma.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by dcow on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:45PM (#48727636)
It’s getting so bad. My wife is in a remote school where they fail students occasionally to squeeze a little extra $$ out of them.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by what on Monday June 29, 2026 @10:05PM (#48727745)
I’m sorry your wife failed some classes, but it’s probably not because the school wants some extra money.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by picofarad on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:19AM (#48728443)
They didn't say that.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mort96 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @03:09AM (#48729451)
They did seem to think that it's a problem for schools to fail students.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by necovek on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @08:59AM (#48732128)
They didn't say that either.

What they did say is that the school sometimes fails students to get more money — supposedly implying that this was not because they did not meet the passing criteria.

This does not preclude failing students when they deserve it.

It is ok to question of what makes them believe they would have passed the exams without this financial motivation for the school, but they were pretty clear IMO.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by nekusar on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:41AM (#48732643)
Lets use names.

Western Governors University. Online 4 year degree. Classes are passed when you pass the "high stakes" (read: proctorio test). This means if you know the material, then you can pass a class in 1 day.

HOWEVER, when you do your final test, they only tell you pass or fail. They do NOT show you what questions you got right or wrong. If you fail, you have to wait 5 days and go through professor hoops. Of course, you naturally never actually talked to the prof. Its all online through ZyBooks.

But WGU benefits on failing people, and by hiding what you failed at. Because the longer you attend, the more they charge. Their response is basically "Get Gud Scrub but we're not gonna tell you how".

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by dcow on Friday July 03, 2026 @07:20PM (#48781155)
It’s not a problem to fail students. But when the online wing of the school has a 35% graduation rate, doesn’t hold lectures, and has a swarm of disgruntled reviews from people who feel like the school is in the business of taking Pell grants and maxing their student loans then stonewalling them when they hit mid 3rd year (right after you’re in for a pound) and start asking questions about where all the money went and why they were sitting at a B all semester then magically ended up with a 59 after the final, it’s a little sus.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by high_na_euv on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @07:02AM (#48730909)
How are you so sure?

There is so much shady things about academic env that it doesnt sound scary

Ive witnessed situation where "hard" prof was teaching and many ppl failed, and then thry received "easy" prof and they passed

But they had to pay for exams and retake, etc

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by bowersbros on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @04:15AM (#48729840)
I had a teacher who told us to make a website using Powerpoint..

Turns out you save save as HTML and any links you put between slides become anchor tags.

Pretty neat, but hurt my soul to have all my classmates do that

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by moduspol on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @10:48AM (#48733478)
Hmm. Dreamweaver must be what the cool kids were using instead of Frontpage.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by noumenon1111 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @05:30PM (#48739480)
I was a cool kid! I used FrontPage :D
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by hbogert on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @06:04AM (#48744503)
Yeah that's what they all thought :P
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by techpression on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:53AM (#48728607)
It's a built-in secret part of the teaching for any job where you interact with customers, they don't upgrade and they have no troubleshooting skills.

Or just ineptitude, but I'm hoping for the former.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by lovich on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:52AM (#48729347)
Tenure. Or at least that was my experience with my comp sci teacher who required that we gave him printed out programs for our homework and then tossed them into the trash while making eye contact with you and gave you a grade later.

The schools admins told me he had tenure so there was nothing I could do.

Didn’t take me a whole year before I switched majors.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by JimDabell on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:55AM (#48729364)
During the time of Internet Explorer 9, it was surprisingly common for people to still be using Internet Explorer 6. This was often out of their control, for instance if they had intranet sites that required Internet Explorer 6, or if they were stuck on an old version of Windows because they had outdated hardware.

Later versions of Internet Explorer had compatibility mode, but it often wasn’t enough to get things working, especially if there was ActiveX involved or the security policies were restrictive.

Schools were especially prone to this due to their limited budgets among other reasons, and IT teachers weren’t normally the decision makers who could do anything about it. You shouldn’t assume that a random IT teacher had the authority to spontaneously upgrade a school computer that needs to be used for things besides that one student’s assignment.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mort96 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @03:07AM (#48729442)
I will, however, assume that an IT teacher has the ability to recognise, "this isn't working because I'm using an ancient browser". If the teacher is completely unable to use a less ancient browser, the requirement for the project to work on IE6 should be clearly stated, which it was not.

However in this case, my friend just helped the IT teacher install Google Chrome on his computer and showed that the site rendered fine there. I don't know what sort of policies were in place but there were evidently no technical measures implemented to prevent people from installing a modern browser.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by exceptione on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @04:45AM (#48730036)
I think your friend might have used portableapps.com, they offer many types of browsers . These programs are packaged to install under a restricted account, without requiring admin rights.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mort96 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @05:11AM (#48730231)
And the IT teacher could have done the same, if he was competent.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by hilariously on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @03:26AM (#48729542)
I left community college after a week because my "computer" teacher required us to change our monitors to 640x480 and print out ever step that we completed in things like Notepad or Configuring the Desktop and then every day we'd punch it out and would add it to a three ring binder of all the things we've done.

Full Color.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by wccrawford on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @05:29AM (#48730334)
I took a computer class in college (like 25 years ago now?) and corrected the teacher multiple times every class. And it was like 95% things that were in the book that was issued, so I could even point out the page it was on. It was absolutely embarrassing.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Tor3 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @06:17AM (#48730619)
In college I one year had a physics teacher who refused to believe that you could hear the harmonics of a guitar string simply by lightly touching the string at the right place, e.g. in the middle (12th fret) to hear the octave. Nothing could convince him that this was possible. That year was when several of us spent a good part of the week bowling in a nearby bowling hall, either because we didn't have to take the class (the curriculum was years behind what we had already done before college), or the teachers were so incompetent that there was no point attending. Fortunately the other educational years (everything after middle school, that year excepted) were great though.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by yoz-y on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @07:34AM (#48731194)
640x480 in 16 colors is the resolution as it was prescribed in the Bible.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by jagged-chisel on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @08:21AM (#48731685)
Amen
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by markhahn on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @01:54PM (#48736507)
though shalt not wear garments of mixed pallettes
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by tuwtuwtuwtuw on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @03:52PM (#48738316)
Terry Davis quote?

> God said 640×480 16 colour is a covenant like circumcision.

https://clotmag.com/oped/deus-ex-machina-deconstructing-digi...

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by chasd00 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @08:47AM (#48731985)
if i may rant, my middle school and high school aged kids have to literally take pictures of their homework assignments with their chromebook camera then put it the pictures in a google slides deck then submit the deck through a form all to just turn in their paper HW assignment! ridiculous.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by Aeolun on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:55PM (#48735569)
Can’t you just hand it in?
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by paulluuk on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @03:29AM (#48729571)
I assume this was at a highschool and not at university? My IT teacher in highschool was the chemistry teacher, because.. he knew how to use Word, I guess?

He knew we were computer nerds so didn't really care about teaching us (we knew more than him anyway). And we didn't mind that he just sat there drinking coffee and reading a book, as it meant we could just play videogames for an hour. Good times.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by benjiro29 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @07:52AM (#48731372)
Haha, our was a Civil Engineer ... His way of teaching IT was buying a book, and almost verbatim read from it. The same guy was "teaching" DB design... It was so boring, that everybody crawled to the backside. As you can guess, nobody was happy.

We ended with a mini revolt against several teachers because everybody was failing those subjects. They had the energy of a Koala. Clearly burned out or unqualified ... Just going over the material like robots. When we asked to explain it better, it was just repeating the same lines like it was too much effort.

Think about it, how bad it is that students revolted and ended up going to the school director to complain about the sub standard teaching.

For a few lessons they actually bothered teaching. With attitude, because we actually dared to go over their heads for wanting a decent education. And for a short time everybody their grades improved a lot, as we finally understood the material the got thrown around. And ... then the teachers slowly fell back to their routing, and a few minor hints that if we dared to go to the director again.... We gotten all so tired of it, and gave up.

And end of the year, the school did not understand why so many students (like 75%+), all failed those specific subjects. It was a lot of students, over multiple groups. Its not like it was "bad apple" in one group, what i am sure was used as a excuse for the inter mediate results.

When the director finally showed his face because it was so bad (probably was going to result in a investigation from above)... Students already angry told the school director "WE TOLD YOU that this was going to be the result, but you did not want to fix the issues. There is no point having teachers that are clearly burned out or are blatantly unqualified to teach".

I left after that, it was just a waste of life studying. Ended up going autodidactic and made a nice carrier for myself. Yea, and that was our "western" education.

Then people wonder why our education is a disaster and blame it on smartphones (30 years ago we did not have those). Because it can never be the teachers and the top-down dictated goals. No no, must be the students that are dumb...

The teachers that had actually a lot of motivation (often the younger ones), guess what, people all had good scores in those subjects. Its like the quality of the teachers impacts the students ability to learn, shocking!!!

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by dosman33 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:24AM (#48732436)
Those that can, do - and those that can't, teach.

Teaching is rewarding which is why people do it, but you're asking them to take less pay for what is often a harder job - convincing kids to learn something when they have dozens of other things competing for their interest. The math aligns on the side with the teacher having the knowledge you would expect in this scenario - with a fair number of teachers not as much knowledge as one would hope they would have. On the students side, if they are bright then this is a soft-skill learning opportunity - how to navigate knowing more than your superior to the benefit of you both.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by OrsonSmelles on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @12:04PM (#48734684)
Surely you could have made essentially the same point without regurgitating one of the most perniciously derogatory lines ever concocted to describe teaching?

All of the market forces you describe are real, but they are partly sustained by cultural templates that make teaching a low-status job among those with technical qualifications and lead to an assumption that every teacher is either (a) internally motivated and doesn't "need" competitive compensation or (b) a washout from a more prestigious track and doesn't "deserve" competitive compensation. This affects administrators, policymakers, voters, and teachers themselves, giving us the status quo where teachers are paid and treated like shit (ask a K-12 educator about the most psychotic parent they met this year and whether admin had their back) so that even many people who love teaching gradually evaporate out of the field if they can.

I suppose I'm not even arguing that the material result is much different than you describe it, just that it's lazy, amoral thinking to frame it as a market quirk or the immutable nature of teaching rather than a slow-motion sociocultural trainwreck over which we can exercise some iota of agency. (One such iota might be to simply not say "those who can..." in earnest ever again.)

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by mghackerlady on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:40AM (#48732634)
I'm lucky both of my schools IT teachers were actually competent, they were both technically business teachers but were good with code.

That first teacher died shortly after, she had terminal breast cancer. I miss her a lot

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by BrandoElFollito on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @04:46PM (#48738959)
OTOH this is an opportunity to learn yo add guardrails to the cide to check for browser capabilities and display a page inviting to move to new stuff
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by soneil on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @07:58PM (#48740793)
This feels like a good place to reel out my favourite anecdote; community college IT (or for the natives; BTEC), 1998; our programming tutor told us to "ignore the internet" because it's a fad.

Almost 30 years, and every so often I still wonder about where that got him.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by glenstein on Monday June 29, 2026 @09:42PM (#48727610)
I remember that. The one thing I would add is I think the usage was much more general purpose. "Free stuff" sites were a big deal and huge source of traffic and .tk was widely shared on those. You could have a banner with ads and have the domain for free.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by znpy on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:14AM (#48729085)
I still have a .tk domain, paid since 2008, because it was the only one with my surname available.

Haven’t had much issues but surely if could go back and i’d pick a different tld.

Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by victorbjorklund on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @06:51AM (#48730838)
RIP .tk. Those were the days.
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by southforgeai on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @08:30AM (#48731788)
Wow this brought back a flood of memories. I'll never forget spinning up lycos and geocity sites with .tk domains
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by cellu on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @08:37AM (#48731870)
those were the days!!
Re:Announcing .self: A New Top-Level Domain Designed to Supp... by lightningspirit on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @05:56PM (#48739768)
And then everybody left, yeah, I remember this exactly.