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Re:M1 Macs Review by CraigJPerry on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:48AM (#25149361)
After 6 years away from being "all in" on Apple, yesterday my base spec MacBook Air M1 arrived.

Battery life is the key takeaway for me. Performance is fine but I'm used to a powerful desktop so it's not blowing me away but the battery life definitely is blowing me away.

To run things under rosetta there's an arch command: e.g. arch -x86_64 brew install xxx - the arch preference is inherited by sub processes. I'm kind of amazed how well intel binaries run here. I can't tell the difference in usage and it just works, even games like Cuphead from steam seem fine.

Re:M1 Macs Review by rsanheim on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:59AM (#25150766)
Yeah so far the performance is very close to my 10 core iMac Pro I use for day to day development. This is on a MacBook Air with no fan, and so far I haven't felt the machine even get warm even when compiling _and_ also running tests or importing data in other processes.

This is when running a decently sized Rails monolith w/ PostgreSQL & Redis, so a fairly typical modern Rails setup.

It's seriously impressive.

Re:M1 Macs Review by mekster on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:55PM (#25152176)
Does it mean you can no longer easily tell if a process has gone crazy and takes high CPU usage without a fan and you also can't even feel the slow down.
Re:M1 Macs Review by divbzero on Thursday November 19, 2020 @05:18PM (#25155050)
Just wait, we’ll soon have an app for that — the equivalent of fake engine sound for EVs.
Re:M1 Macs Review by panda88888 on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:38AM (#25158133)
I like the idea. An app that roars louder the higher the cpu load.
Re:M1 Macs Review by growse on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:45AM (#25160364)
Nullsoft (remember them?) had 'beep' which was always a joy to run.

https://www.1014.org/code/nullsoft/nbeep/

Re:M1 Macs Review by panda88888 on Saturday November 28, 2020 @12:50AM (#25235599)
Of Winamp fame? Of course!
Re:M1 Macs Review by ngcc_hk on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:27AM (#25157804)
Haha!!!

Sorry but is this crazy to need the fan to sense the performance!

Re:M1 Macs Review by bartvk on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:59PM (#25153692)
That is true in many situations, like a remote server. That's why we have top on the commandline, or iStat Menus. But I'm not sure if iStat Menus actually works on the new machines.

https://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/

Re:M1 Macs Review by mekster on Thursday November 19, 2020 @07:18PM (#25156025)
Those are passive solutions. You'd be looking at them after you realize something doesn't look right.

iStat or similar can do a notification if a process is taking high CPU usage for a while.

Servers have their own solutions like monitoring daemons that sends out an alert if CPU usage had been too high for a while.

Re:M1 Macs Review by brianpan on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:42PM (#25152832)
Totally broke my workflow: https://xkcd.com/1172/
Re:M1 Macs Review by ogre_codes on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:18PM (#25153244)
I was wondering something similar. VSCode tends to fly off the handle every once in a while and the only way I notice currently is a subtle lagging and the fan spinning up.

Though recently I switched back to VIM so perhaps this won't be an issue anymore.

Re:M1 Macs Review by yagya on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:43AM (#25151282)
Once I get mine, I plan on building AOSP and seeing what limits I can push the hardware to.
Re:M1 Macs Review by vishnugupta on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:35AM (#25158119)
Would you mind sharing the RAM size on iMac Pro? I'm seriously considering buying Mac mini however its max 16GB of RAM is putting me off; fwiw I'm currently on MacBook Pro 2018 (2.6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7, 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4). So any feedback around memory usage/size is very welcome! Thanks!
Re:M1 Macs Review by talmr on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:50PM (#25157393)
Nice! Are you using x code as well?

I’m in a similar boat as you - running bunch of node services, pg, etc. but I’m also developing for iOS. Xcode kills my current MacBook because I’m constantly rebuilding.

Re:M1 Macs Review by cjrp on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:50AM (#25149384)
If a laptop's performance is on a par with a desktop's, and the fan's aren't going crazy, I'd call that a big win! My 2018 MB Pro has the fans running most of the time, and even then sometimes throttles back the CPU.
Re:M1 Macs Review by snazz on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:53AM (#25149415)
The MacBook Air that GP mentioned doesn't even have a fan! That's certainly a nice benefit.
Re:M1 Macs Review by heelix on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:32AM (#25150497)
I'm pretty convinced my i9 mac does not have a fan either. A noise maker, yes... but the 2018 model just seems to have a loud audible indicator that docker started. :)
Re:M1 Macs Review by mattkevan on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:31AM (#25151136)
In the same way my car beeps to remind me I’ve left the lights on, my MacBook buzzes to remind me I’ve still got Microsoft Teams open.
Re:M1 Macs Review by lostlogin on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:25PM (#25151828)
There is something wrong with Teams. As well as it’s resource hogging, it tries to connect to all my SMB shares (even if they are disconnected) when I open the app. Why is it doing this?
Re:M1 Macs Review by m_mueller on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:04PM (#25153106)
Microsoft programs get home sick and want to see some familiar file share protocol?
Re:M1 Macs Review by mattkevan on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:17AM (#25158032)
> There is something wrong with Teams.

There’s a lot of things wrong with Teams.

Re:M1 Macs Review by PopsiclePete on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:39PM (#25153484)
That's Electron for ya. We decided that javascript was thew ay to write cross-OS UI's. God help us.
Re:M1 Macs Review by NetOpWibby on Thursday November 19, 2020 @04:29PM (#25154610)
_Do you think God stays in heaven because He, too, lives in fear of what He’s created?_
Re:M1 Macs Review by shmoogy on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:59AM (#25149477)
I really want the air for when I work outside in the summer. I worked from an iPad quite often with the magic keyboard, and it started throttling and sometimes overheated to the point of failure while outside in the sun.

It's too cold in Chicago to test, but I would love to see if the MacBook Air can work while outside in direct hot sun - it's the only reason I'm considering the MBP.

Re:M1 Macs Review by markphip on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:36AM (#25149907)
The Daring Fireball review of the MBP had this to say about the fan ...

"The two machines are equivalently fast in a sprint, but the MacBook Pro will win a distance race. But Apple doesn’t call it a “fan”. They call it an “active cooling system”. That sounds like a marketing euphemism, but it’s not fair to call this a “fan”. It is something else altogether, and nothing at all like the cooling systems in any previous Mac laptop.

I’ve never once heard it in an entire week.

Never. Not once. Not a whisper.

I presume it has engaged at times when I’ve taxed the system. Again, the Cinebench multi-core CPU benchmark taxes every available CPU core for 10 minutes. But if the active cooling system has kicked in, I never heard it. I’ve never felt any air moving out of the vents, either. This is nothing at all like the fans on Intel-based MacBooks, which, if you’re not familiar, you can definitely hear, to say the least."

https://daringfireball.net/2020/11/the_m1_macs

Re:M1 Macs Review by reaperducer on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:13PM (#25151661)
It's too cold in Chicago to test

I used to have one of those massive 17" MacBooks (Best keyboard ever), and it used to heat up enough to turn my thighs red. Back then, Apple avoided calling them "laptops," perhaps for this reason.

Then I moved to Chicago, and found it was a wonderful machine for using outside on my balcony in cold weather because it would keep at least half of me toasty. If I started to get chilly, I'd fire up Virtual PC and snuggle in.

Re:M1 Macs Review by ngcc_hk on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:33AM (#25157825)
Have to stop reading this post. Too many real life case so close to heart but also funny.

Virtual PC. Man, how can this nit a real story!

Re:M1 Macs Review by rangibaby on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:29AM (#25160709)
My 2006 Mac Pro was very nice to use in winter for this exact reason
Re:M1 Macs Review by addaon on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:24AM (#25150402)
One of the challenges of using a large-screen device in the sun is that most screen technologies (including transmissive LCD and OLED, but excluding eInk and transflective LCDs) are inherently "black" -- they absorb light energy that hits them. Even when they're displaying a white screen, they're absorbing nearly all of the light hitting them, and then emitting their own energy.

One of my mild annoyances with the iPhone 12 is that there's no white option. I have a white iPhone 10, and it's essential equipment for me as a convertible driver -- on a sufficiently sunny day, the phone will overheat on the center console screen-up, even when it's powered off! But with the white side up, it's fine even on sunny days breaking 110 degF.

The only way around this I could see for laptops and tablets in the sun would be a return to transflective displays or other non-black options... which would also be a huge boost to battery life in well-lit conditions. But none of these techs seem to have comparable image quality, and there are some inherent challenges (potentially addressable, but challenges) with color balance etc.

Re:M1 Macs Review by vladvasiliu on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:34AM (#25150519)
> One of my mild annoyances with the iPhone 12 is that there's no white option.

There is for the iPhone 12 non pro and mini [0].

The pro comes in what looks like a fairly light silver.

Disclaimer: I haven't seen those in real life, I'm going by the apple store website.

[0] https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple...

Re:M1 Macs Review by robin_reala on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:58PM (#25152232)
I have a white 12; it’s got a gold tint to the white that gives it a warm feel, but I’ve seen mixed reactions to it.
Re:M1 Macs Review by tpush on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:30AM (#25150473)
> One of my mild annoyances with the iPhone 12 is that there's no white option.

But there is a white iPhone 12? I have one myself. Or is not white enough/too matte or something?

Re:M1 Macs Review by addaon on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:36PM (#25151972)
Whoops! My mistake, thanks for that! I has been looking only at the Pro out of habit, but this might push me towards the non-Pro this generation.
Re:M1 Macs Review by tpush on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:51PM (#25152145)
If it helps, I'm perfectly contend with the non-pro iPhone 12.

The aluminum sides + white back look really great, too!

Re:M1 Macs Review by glhaynes on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:02PM (#25156969)
Would the "Silver" Pro (white glass with a silver band) be that different?
Re:M1 Macs Review by kingnothing on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:55PM (#25152989)
Or buy a white case?
Re:M1 Macs Review by duncanawoods on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:13AM (#25149620)
> I would love to see if the MacBook Air can work while outside in direct hot sun

I'm not optimistic. An unused iPhone 7 will go into an overheating error state if left in direct sunlight on a British summer's day. I don't know how newer models cope.

Re:M1 Macs Review by cujo on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:43AM (#25149983)
Wouldn’t the air have the same problem? With no fan it’ll still heat up and have to throttle down.
Re:M1 Macs Review by stickyricky on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:07AM (#25150244)
If you're using the computer outdoors its best to get the MBP for the brighter screen.
Re:M1 Macs Review by tomaskafka on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:26PM (#25152603)
+1 - I love the MB12, but then a summer arrived and I found out that stays under 1 GHz basically all the time when I'm outside.
Re:M1 Macs Review by rconti on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:42AM (#25151260)
Order a silver one instead of a dark grey one, just to be safe? :)
Re:M1 Macs Review by jordache on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:15PM (#25151681)
why would you want to work under direct sunlight? you can barely see the screen in that condition
Re:M1 Macs Review by shmoogy on Thursday November 19, 2020 @03:39PM (#25154075)
I sit at my patio table and move twice during the day if I am out long enough. I face the sun, to tan, and my screen is away from it (behind it). When the sun is directly above I move under the shade.

It helps increase my mood, and productivity.

Re:M1 Macs Review by davio on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:55AM (#25149434)
That's the entire reason I bought mine. Replaced the early 2020 model. I had complete peace and quiet during all of my video calls yesterday
Re:M1 Macs Review by bjoli on Thursday November 19, 2020 @05:47PM (#25155266)
When the news of apple silicon broke, apples shitty cooling of their recent laptops made sense. The CPU of my wife's MacBook air throttles several times a day without much heavy work.

I sincerely believe they botched it on purpose to be able to present increadible performance improvements compared to previous generations.

Apple silicon is amazing, of course. But the older machines were downright bad at cooling.

Re:M1 Macs Review by rimliu on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:53AM (#25149413)
Original comment mentions MB Air, Air has no fans (now that sounds funny :)
Re:M1 Macs Review by vishnugupta on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:57AM (#25149448)
Of all the things unveiled during the launch event no-fan thing completely blew me away. That, I was not prepared for!

I now wonder, does that mean that MB Air has no moving parts inside it at all?

Re:M1 Macs Review by robin_reala on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:19AM (#25149675)
There’s the haptic feedback for the trackpad.
Re:M1 Macs Review by mensetmanusman on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:29PM (#25152636)
The electrons are moving millions of miles.
Re:M1 Macs Review by TMWNN on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:50AM (#25150060)
>I now wonder, does that mean that MB Air has no moving parts inside it at all?

In addition, does that mean that the Air has no air vents? Is it a completely sealed unit, like an iPhone?

Re:M1 Macs Review by BooneJS on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:56AM (#25150119)
Don’t dunk it in water like an iPhone. Unlike lightning, usb-c is likely energized and not sealed.
Re:M1 Macs Review by jandrese on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:48AM (#25150666)
It has a keyboard, not a big glass touchscreen. It is not sealed.
Re:M1 Macs Review by nacs on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:38AM (#25150567)
It's not a sealed unit.
Re:M1 Macs Review by Joeri on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:16PM (#25152458)
The keyboard is still a big mess of moving parts, but there is indeed one less moving part to break.
Re:M1 Macs Review by xuki on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:04AM (#25149533)
Yes, like an iPhone or iPad.
Re:M1 Macs Review by kgwgk on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:14AM (#25149626)
And like the 2015-2019 MacBook.
Re:M1 Macs Review by rorykoehler on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:52PM (#25153629)
I hope they do this form factor again with the new chips
Re:M1 Macs Review by ksec on Thursday November 19, 2020 @05:39PM (#25155215)
I am thinking may be next year or the year after. The MacBook Pro will get new Design, at 16" and 14". ( I hope instead of going thinner they could stay within the current cooling TDP )

Then the MacBook Air will have a 14" as well, before a 12" MacBook Air is introduced at a lower price range, possibly at $799.

Re:M1 Macs Review by kgwgk on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:57AM (#25158953)
> a 12" MacBook Air is introduced at a lower price range, possibly at $799.

That would be great. But it could make more difficult to sell an iPadPro (starting at $799) with a MagicKeyboard (starting at $300) as an alternative to a laptop.

Re:M1 Macs Review by drewolbrich on Thursday November 19, 2020 @12:12PM (#25151647)
If your MBP fans are running all the time, you may want to open it up and see if it's filled with dust and lint.
Re:M1 Macs Review by cjrp on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:47AM (#25158910)
Oh I have, thanks. It's just that running my dev. environment plus Teams and all of the other "necessary" accoutrements ends up using a fair chunk of CPU.
Re:M1 Macs Review by mixmastamyk on Thursday November 19, 2020 @06:29PM (#25155632)
The process table as well.
Re:M1 Macs Review by wil421 on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:31AM (#25151129)
How can you tell your battery life if you’ve only had your Mac one day?
Re:M1 Macs Review by GeekyBear on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:12PM (#25153179)
Some of the reviews have mentioned what running a particular heavy workload reduced their charge level by.

>After a single build of WebKit, the M1 MacBook Pro had a massive 91% of its battery left. I tried multiple tests here and I could have easily run a full build of WebKit 8-9 times on one charge of the M1 MacBook’s battery.

In comparison, I could have gotten through about 3 on the [Intel] 16” and the 13” [Intel] 2020 model only had one go in it.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/17/yeah-apples-m1-macbook-pro...

Re:M1 Macs Review by sgillen on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:27AM (#25149776)
Do you mind sharing what battery life you are seeing for your real life workloads? And also an idea of what those work loads are?
Re:M1 Macs Review by CraigJPerry on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:11AM (#25150283)
It arrived with 69% charge, by this morning 11am i had reached 21%. I left the screen brightness on the default setting and usage was a mix of installing software (mostly I/O i suppose), a lot of safari, around 4 hours of Citrix remote desktop, around 90 minutes of zoom, some light gaming last night to see if it works.

If you do anything that's heavy on I/O (packaging jar files in my case), this laptop is faster than my big desktop, the I/O is crazy fast actually.

Memory pressure has been low so far - my biggest fear opting for the base model but looks like i'll be fine - i spun up bunch of dev processes and was fine.

Re:M1 Macs Review by Joeri on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:21PM (#25152531)
I wonder whether we need to reset expectations on memory amounts. From seeing the reviews where they launch every application installed on the 8gb air and it remains smooth I am suspecting that the unified memory and optimized storage interface means that for M1 macs 8 gb behaves like 16 gb on intel cpu’s.
Re:M1 Macs Review by EricE on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:53PM (#25152964)
Just remember that if your machine needs to swap because of low RAM you are now writing to your SSD.

The permanently soldered in SSD that has a finite amount of writes.

Saving $200 on RAM up front could get wiped out if you kill your SSD prematurely with constant, heavy swapping.

Here I see the fast SSD speed as a negative - making it painless to do something inherently dangerous towards the lifespan of your SSD.

Re:M1 Macs Review by r00fus on Thursday November 19, 2020 @03:05PM (#25153738)
Have you ever actually worn out an SSD using personal workloads (ie, not on a server)? I haven't yet and I own machines/SSDs from 12 years ago - benchmarks are still roughly equivalent to what I had to start.
Re:M1 Macs Review by Fnoord on Thursday November 19, 2020 @04:49PM (#25154793)
Yes, I have. My old ThinkPad R61 I added an OCZ SSD to. Not sure how much RAM it came with, but it was swapping a lot, I guess. Back then, SSDs had less of a lifespan than nowadays (even consumer-grade ones).

I had the same on Windows + a SSD. Docker with some Sqlite applictions apparently did crazy writes. SSD went from 100% to 80% in like half a year time or so, when I noticed it. That SSD is still alive, but I had to adapt.

Re:M1 Macs Review by mlindner on Thursday November 19, 2020 @08:40PM (#25156515)
Those early SSDs if I remember right had very low cycle limits, the limits now are over 10x better than they were then.
Re:M1 Macs Review by to11mtm on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:59PM (#25156952)
Depends which age/tech.

Every additional 'Level' in the flash decreases the overall life cycle. Mind you, oftentimes drive controllers are fancier, often doing things like treating one of the sections as a less dense flash type to improve write cycles, and keep/move longer held data into the regions treated as QLC.

But, that means that some heavy write patters will indeed wind up worse on a modern drive than the better MLC/TLC models.

Re:M1 Macs Review by rasz on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:42PM (#25157115)
Its the other way around. Early SSDs had huge P/E numbers in tens of thousands (SLC). Now we are down in the low hundreds.
Re:M1 Macs Review by freehunter on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:27PM (#25164572)
To re-iterate how much more reliable SSDs are now that they used to be, until about a month ago I worked for a vendor of hardware/software that is designed to read/write to disks hundreds of thousands of times per second (log collection and searching). When I first started working there ~5 years ago, they were testing out SSDs in the appliances and the team ultimately decided against it because they estimated the SSDs would burn out in under a year.

By the time I left they were shipping appliances with SSDs that were predicted to have lifespans longer than the longest hardware support you could buy from the vendor (longest hardware support contract - seven years). Hundreds of thousands of writes per second, every second, for 7+ years, uninterrupted.

Re:M1 Macs Review by rasz on Saturday November 21, 2020 @02:54AM (#25168410)
They are most likely shipping bigger SSDs :-) Bigger the disk bigger the TBW despite P/E going to shits with every node shrink/bits per cell jump.
Re:M1 Macs Review by CraigJPerry on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:34PM (#25153430)
Would these first gen ARM chips not be obsolete by a few years before wearing out the SSD?

The SSDs from the previous gen are rated for something like 40Gb writes per day for 40 years i think.

I’d guess the battery will fail first, then the keyboard or screen hinge, then the logic board. But thats a pure guess.

I reckon the biggest risk is that all in one logic board, anything fails and you lose your HDD.

Re:M1 Macs Review by Fnoord on Thursday November 19, 2020 @04:53PM (#25154822)
> Would these first gen ARM chips not be obsolete by a few years before wearing out the SSD?

Obsolete, who defines that?

I'm typing this on a MBP 2015. Still works perfectly fine (I did have screen replaced under warranty). Battery is replaceable on this machine, its sitting at ~85% capacity with 500 cycles. Apple hardware tends to have good resale value, too.

Performance-wise, hardware tends to last longer and longer. Repairability-wise, yeah, that's a can of worms of a discussion.

Re:M1 Macs Review by CraigJPerry on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:52AM (#25158580)
I'd say a 2005 PowerPC iBook is obsolete. I'd also say a 2009 intel macbook is obsolete but the truth is, add an SSD into that and it's probably still fine under linux so maybe 2009 isn't obsolete for some users just yet (although i think apple no longer support that hardware). 2015 is modern, intel performance just hasn't changed that much since 2015.
Re:M1 Macs Review by simonh on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:15AM (#25150950)
>the I/O is crazy fast

I seem to remember watching a real time video transcoding demo, or something like that, on an iPad Pro and the dev demoing it saying it was the I/O that made it possible. Desktop machines with much faster processors would choke due to bandwidth limitations, but Apple can custom tune every aspect of the iPad architecture and aren't limited to standard, generic interfaces between components.

The original 5k iMacs were a similar case in some ways. It was only possible in an all-in-one design, because there wasn't a standard video connection at the time that was capable of the throughput.

Re:M1 Macs Review by masklinn on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:38AM (#25151211)
> If you do anything that's heavy on I/O (packaging jar files in my case), this laptop is faster than my big desktop, the I/O is crazy fast actually.

Tt's got a rather fast NVME SSD, 2.7GB/s reads and 2.2GB/s writes (Intel version was 1.3 and 1). Don't know if the IOPS & latency improved, but it wouldn't surprise me much.

Re:M1 Macs Review by sg47 on Thursday November 19, 2020 @01:25PM (#25152595)
Do they still ship these Airs with 720p webcams from the 2000s? I have a 2020 Macbook Air that has a terrible webcam.
Re:M1 Macs Review by alwillis on Thursday November 19, 2020 @07:59PM (#25156291)
I recently discovered this app that makes your iPhone (or iPad) a webcam for your Mac—the difference between the shitty webcam Apple ships and this is eye-opening: https://reincubate.com/camo/
Re:M1 Macs Review by CraigJPerry on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:24PM (#25153320)
Yeah and the low light performance isn’t great either
Re:M1 Macs Review by mthoms on Thursday November 19, 2020 @02:36PM (#25153456)
I have a feeling an improved webcam (and FaceID) will be one of the features Apple will use to distinguish their forthcoming higher end MBP's.

Surely, they won't keep using the same aging technology. At least I hope not.

Re:M1 Macs Review by sg47 on Thursday November 19, 2020 @03:58PM (#25154279)
Unpardonable in the age of covid. And I'm tired of trying out no name webcams from Amazon and hooking them with dongles and they barely stay on top of the monitor.
Re:M1 Macs Review by jk563 on Thursday November 19, 2020 @10:35AM (#25150529)
8GB integrated memory spec?
Re:M1 Macs Review by CraigJPerry on Thursday November 19, 2020 @11:34AM (#25151163)
Yeah. I don't hold out hope of it surviving any vm workloads (vagrant, docker desktop etc.) but i'm ok with just installing the cli tools and connecting to remote clusters.
Re:M1 Macs Review by boltzmann_brain on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:32AM (#25149845)
Great to hear that! I got myself the last Intel based mbp 16" fully jacked with R5600 HMB2 memory, as this is the last one that will run Windows, which I need often. I also need larger screen, so I'm waiting for M2 or M3 generation, that will inevitably come with 16" screen factor - looking forward to that amazing machine in a few years!