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Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by ChuckMcM on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:26PM (#6779088)
I must admit I didn't see that one coming. It suggests a fascinating application, which is to wear a graphene condom, on top of a rubber condom, on top of a graphene condom. Thus creating a condom 'super capacitor' [1] that you would charge up by rubbing it, which could then power a piezo electric vibrator. I'm so waiting to see who patents that!

[1] http://www.extremetech.com/computing/163071-graphene-superca...

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by robabbott on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:29PM (#6779097)
Or, alternatively, recharge your smartphone during sex.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by SilkRoadie on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:54AM (#6779985)
Not sure how much of a charge you would generate in 2 minutes.

Couldn't this be used in trousers? The friction generated between the legs could wirelessly charge whatever is in your pocket?

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by dTal on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:01AM (#6780010)
...2 minutes?
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by hellweaver666 on Friday November 22, 2013 @06:44AM (#6780284)
and that includes the time it takes to eat the pizza.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by miloszf on Friday November 22, 2013 @08:29AM (#6780557)
2 minutes in heaven are better than.. 1 minute in heaven.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by guiomie on Friday November 22, 2013 @08:50AM (#6780650)
I doubt with all those layers you'd be "generating" for only 2 minutes ...
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by miga on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:35PM (#6779124)
I like the vibration effect better. Or at least my girlfriend would :-).
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by psbp on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:48PM (#6779166)
Just one step closer to making your penis obsolete.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by anon4 on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:41AM (#6780114)
Not obsolete. Better. Stronger. Longer. Lasting. With vibration and a USB port.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by omegant on Friday November 22, 2013 @08:51AM (#6780656)
Penis 2.0 disrupting human sexuality.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by bryan_rasmussen on Friday November 22, 2013 @09:24AM (#6780826)
and running Windows!
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by robabbott on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:52PM (#6779176)
Sounds like a good idea for a kickstarter.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by boothead on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:47AM (#6780135)
I "came" here to see this as top comment:

  I must admit I didn't see that one coming
Perfect :-)
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by fat0wl on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:46PM (#6779339)
i ALWAYS knew he was a pimp.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by akiselev on Friday November 22, 2013 @12:55AM (#6779467)
The possibilities of graphene are vast and many and exciting but this is kind of scary. For all intents and purposes, graphene is nanotechnology and in certain forms can act like asbestos and has a lot of other unknown behaviors in the body [1]. Unfortunately the field of nanotoxicology hasn't really organized itself and caught up to the widespread use of nanocoating and other material science in industry[2]. I hope they find ways to make it extremely inert in the human body but there's much work to be done.

[1] http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v3/n7/full/nnano.2008.11... (CNTs are rolled up graphene and are formed in many graphene production methods as a byproduct)

[2] Nature has a whole series on this: http://www.nature.com/nnano/focus/nanotoxicology/index.html

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by moocowduckquack on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:56AM (#6779994)
Graphene flakes and carbon nanotubes are already relatively common in the environment as they are naturally occurring. You get carbon nanotubes in ordinary soot, for instance.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by adrianN on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:19AM (#6780065)
Yes, and ordinary soot is not something you want to have regular contact with.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by Sharlin on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:39AM (#6780110)
What about pencils? They're pretty much based on rubbing graphite on paper so that tiny graphene flakes break away and stick on the paper.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by moocowduckquack on Friday November 22, 2013 @06:03AM (#6780177)
I thought it was lucky. Besides, it has been used in cosmetics for millennia.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by DanBC on Saturday November 23, 2013 @07:04AM (#6785775)
Breathing ordinary soot is sub-optimal.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by moocowduckquack on Saturday November 23, 2013 @08:27AM (#6785868)
The set of things that are sub optimal to breathe is pretty wide ranging though. I agree that breathing soot is not great, but I don't think this is particularly because it contains CNTs, as much as because it is a fine particulate that can get into and block up alveoli. I can't think of any fine particulates off the top of my head that are particularly good to breathe in.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by reyan on Friday November 22, 2013 @12:25PM (#6782181)
Soot is the first known environmental carcinogen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimney_sweeps'_carcinoma).
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by moocowduckquack on Friday November 22, 2013 @12:35PM (#6782260)
I think Paracelsus description of lung cancer in miners might predate that.

"Paracelsus was a pioneer in chemistry and chemotherapy. He introduced mercury, lead, sulfur, iron, zinc, copper, arsenic, iodine, and potassium as internal remedies. But he gave due warning in his writings that all chemicals are potentially poisons, and concentration and dose are what make them poisonous or nonpoisonous. His collected papers on chemotherapy of various ailments, including cancers, were published by his followers in 1567 in a book,4De Grandibus. In it, there is the first description of industrial cancer, cancer of the lung in miners of metal ores and in the workers who smelted the ore."

from here - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cncr.25825/full

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by Dn_Ab on Friday November 22, 2013 @08:19AM (#6780527)
To counterbalance, it is important to know that the structure of fullerenes strongly affects their chemical properties and hence toxicity. It does not immediately follow that just because CNTs are rolled up graphene that graphene will be just as toxic.

C60 for example not only shows no indication of toxicity but also appears to have health benefits. My general understanding is while relatively little is known about graphene, what is known suggests it is much safer than CNTs [1]. As well, CNTs are most dangerous when inhaled. CNTs can do damage once inside a cell but breaching membrane is a special enough cirscumstance to make it relatively easily solvable compared to how to mass produce the fullerenes in the first place. The asbestos like quality also seems to be length dependent [2] and most risky to workers - which is a more controllable environment. While it is important to know how harmful these substances may be to us and our environment and I am a tad wary of CNTs, one must keep in mind that the setting of these experiments tend to be exceptional. The fear mongering on this seems like it will end up like GMO, vaccines and fission; yet another inappropriately maligned technology of great potential.

[1] The results show that GO [digraphene oxide] has a moderate toxicity to organisms since it can induce minor (about 20%) cell growth inhibition and slight hatching delay of zebrafish embryos at a dosage of 50 mg/L, but did not result in significant increase of apoptosis in embryo, while MWNTs exhibit acute toxicity leading to a strong inhibition of cell proliferation and serious morphological defects in developing embryos even at relatively low concentration of 25 mg/L

[2] The apparent similarity between multi-walled carbon nanotubes (MWNTs) and asbestos fibers has generated serious concerns about their safety profile. The asbestos-like pathogenicity observed for long, pristine nanotubes (NTlong, see scheme) can be completely alleviated if their effective length is decreased as a result of chemical functionalization, such as with tri(ethylene glycol) (TEG).

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11426-012-4620-z

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201207664/ab...

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by weland on Friday November 22, 2013 @03:48AM (#6779819)
It's ok, most of us, men, would stick our penises into anything.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by emil0r on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:51AM (#6779972)
Speak for yourself.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by phpnode on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:17AM (#6780061)
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by anon4 on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:45AM (#6780127)
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by jlgreco on Friday November 22, 2013 @12:23AM (#6779414)
Fun graphene fact: As the article mentions, graphene was first isolated at the University of Manchester using sticky tape. For this discovery, Andre Geim and Konstantin Novoselov were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics... making Andre Geim the first person to be awarded both the Nobel Prize and the Ig Nobel Prize. He was previously awarded the Ig Nobel Prize for magnetically levitating a live frog.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by tokenizer on Friday November 22, 2013 @06:23AM (#6780234)
So which accomplishment do you find more rewarding? While I see graphene becoming an extremely popular 21st century material, levitating a frog is the first step to levitating anything larger.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by redacted on Friday November 22, 2013 @06:42AM (#6780280)
The frog was levitated using diamagnetic levitation which is pretty much useless for anything in the real-world (hence the ig Nobel, not Nobel).

The magnetic field used was stronger than the confinement field in ITER - so stronger magnets than you need for nuclear fusion.

We can already levitate much larger things, such as trains.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by tokenizer on Friday November 22, 2013 @03:07PM (#6783380)
Thanks. Good point on the trains, completely missed that.

I guess levitating a live frog seems more interesting to me however. To be able to use magnetics to simulate gravity for humans safely, is IMO, a huge barrier (of many) to space travel/living one day.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by jlgreco on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:26PM (#6784183)
My understanding is that they do use such magnets for microgravity experiments. Here is a cool video on diamagnetic levitation from the University of Nottingham: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nod54HFkH0o
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by XorNot on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:01PM (#6778984)
This is a good idea which won't solve the underlying problems with poor condom usage in places which really need it (Africa).

That's being powered by deliberate misinformation campaigns and cultural leftovers, not the specific properties of condoms (though improving them is always a good idea).

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by coffeemug on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:16PM (#6779049)
When it comes to human life, things aren't binary. A 1% increase in condom usage can have massive impact on the health and safety of millions of people. It's another straw we can add to the camel's back.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by nl on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:16PM (#6779050)
In some cases "underlying" problems (eg misinformation campaigns and cultural leftovers) are really just used as excuses by men who don't like how condoms feel. Fix that, and many will be happy to ignore those thing.

As an aside: don't forget the largest major anti-condom propagandists is not African at all (ie, the Catholic church).

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by pauljburke on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:17AM (#6779881)
>As an aside: don't forget the largest major anti-condom propagandists is not African at all (ie, the Catholic church).

That would be the curch that also goes on about abstinence before marriage and monogamy afterwards? Never understood why the church gets beaten up for that (not a fan of the stance on condom use but this implies people "religously" follow one of their rules while blatantly ignoring others).

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by Sharlin on Friday November 22, 2013 @06:19AM (#6780220)
The difference is that you can't really convince people to practice abstinence and monogamy. You can quite easily convince people to not use condoms. Failing to take this into account when you are in a position of authority is unethical at best. Spreading misinformation such as HIV being able to get through condoms is plain old evil.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by fakeanon on Friday November 22, 2013 @08:42AM (#6780605)
If you abstain you have no chance of getting pregnant. It depends: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/3167/do-condoms-... .
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by comlonq on Friday November 22, 2013 @08:13AM (#6780505)
Sex is part of human nature. It used to happen before Humans invented the notion of marriage. The church is trying to stop something that is intrinsically a part of us, that is a bad strategy and is actively making the world a WORSE place.

A better idea would be to encourage people to use condoms. This does not circumvent human nature and has a much better chance of working.

Don't defend ill thought out policy with bad logic.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by twoodfin on Friday November 22, 2013 @09:20AM (#6780802)
Violence and war are also parts of human nature, that doesn't mean religions should give up preaching peace and forgiveness.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by comlonq on Saturday November 23, 2013 @03:57PM (#6787398)
Most people don't wake up in the morning with the urge to fight someone, a lot of people do wake up with the urge to have sex. Sex, like voilence, will always happen. We need to find a way to work with what we've got rather than trying to suppress are human needs.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by Adirael on Friday November 22, 2013 @06:35AM (#6780259)
> people "religously" follow one of their rules while blatantly ignoring others

That's mostly how it works. People follow the rules they like and ignore the ones they don't.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by rplnt on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:53AM (#6779981)
It's not just about (not) following rules. When you have no access to condoms because of the church, it doesn't matter what you think and follow.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by lmm on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:40AM (#6779936)
> this implies people "religously" follow one of their rules while blatantly ignoring others

Is that so implausible?

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by wisty on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:16PM (#6779249)
Or women, who don't like how condoms feel. AFAIK, women are a lot more discriminating about whether or not sex feels any good.

Of course, the worst countries are probably the ones with lots of unregulated prostitution, so in those cases it's probably the men to blame.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by nl on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:30PM (#6779289)
I agree with your point.

However, the reason that I said "men" is that most of the time women aren't the problem. There are three main scenarios where condoms are helpful to society:

1) As a form of birth control. In this case the woman may not have access to other forms, and she has to rely on the man wearing a condom. If the man doesn't like it she is often left without options (particularly in jurisdictions where - unfortunately - consent laws are different for women who are married). Even if a women doesn't like sex with a condom she usually prefers it to yet-another-baby.

2) As a protection against sexually transmitted disease. A subset of that is sexually promiscuous women who dislike condoms (and in that case you are 100% correct - a condom which feels good to women will help). However, the other case - women who are paid to have sex - is unfortunately more common, and in that case the woman often has few options if the man doesn't want to wear a condom.

3) Gay Sex. Obviously this is really a subset of (2) above, but I'm putting it separately because it's quite a large vector for sexually transmitted diseases, and increased condom use would cut it dramatically.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by stplsd on Friday November 22, 2013 @03:31AM (#6779785)
>3) Gay Sex

It is not 1988 anymore, and it's called AIDS not GRID anymore. What else? 4) Bi sex 5) Threesome sex 6) Lesbian with strapon sex?

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by chriswarbo on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:16AM (#6779877)
> What else? 4) Bi sex

If it's two bisexual men

> 5) Threesome sex

If it's three men.

> 6) Lesbian with strapon sex?

No, because that wouldn't involve any penises.

The parent was arguing that it's more common for men to be making decisions about condom usage than women. Why would lesbians use a condom?

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by DanBC on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:17AM (#6780062)
> Why would lesbians use a condom?

It makes toy clean-up easier.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by nl on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:10AM (#6780041)
Sorry, what is the correct term for sex between two men these days? That's the specific issue I was attempting to highlight (and I was making a distinction between that and other sex because - to generalise - the power difference between two gay men is different to between a man and a woman).

Lesbian with strapon sex? - not sure there is a huge incident of sexually transmitted disease associated with that?

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by anon4 on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:48AM (#6780140)
what is the correct term for sex between two men these days

Men sex, or just mex. And if you do it with a guy from Texas, it's called texmex.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by DanBC on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:15AM (#6780057)
> what is the correct term for sex between two men these days?

MSM - men who have sex with men.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by gaius on Friday November 22, 2013 @02:18PM (#6783061)
That is "mainstream media" is ermm mainstream usage. Most gay men I know just call it "anal" without making a big song and dance over it. It is 2013 after all.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by DanBC on Saturday November 23, 2013 @06:57AM (#6785760)
Anal includes women.

> It is 2013 after all.

And even today people are executed or imprisoned for life because they are gay.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by chii on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:23PM (#6779272)
its more likely that the men has power over the women, especially in under-developed nations.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by rplnt on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:50AM (#6779967)
People don't feel the need to turn to God(s) when they are doing fine. That's why the Catholic Church goes out of its way to make people miserable and afraid. They have been doing that in Europe for centuries, now Africa is the better target.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by LaGrange on Friday November 22, 2013 @03:20AM (#6779769)
Actually, you can't really fix the 'feel' problem, because the 'feeling' is mostly imaginary. The problem with condoms is part education, part laziness and part men actually wanting women to have more kids.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by stuaxo on Friday November 22, 2013 @03:54AM (#6779828)
I don't know, to have to pull back the foreskin and have it immobile during sex, is a pretty big difference.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by LaGrange on Monday November 25, 2013 @06:30AM (#6793514)
You might want to consider a different brand. Never had that problem, not even heard of it, and I'm from a not-circumcised country.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by dTal on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:04AM (#6780022)
Where did you read that? Have you ever actually used a condom?
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by LaGrange on Monday November 25, 2013 @06:28AM (#6793509)
Yes. That's how I know, but nice job of being an example.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by XorNot on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:12PM (#6779228)
Actually I was thinking strongly about who they were, I just didn't want to name names in this forum.

But the sector they operate most flagrantly and disastrously is still Africa.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by sharkweek on Friday November 22, 2013 @12:30AM (#6779430)
Melinda Gates herself said condoms, in their current state, don't really solve a lot of contraceptive issues in Africa in an article she wrote for Foreign Policy. But any advancement in the technology that encourages greater adoption is a net positive.

Certainly worth a read:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/26/why_birth_c...

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by baby on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:33PM (#6778895)
I'm very glad to live in this era. I can imagine a few years from now young people will be talking about how back then they used very thick condoms that suppressed all pleasure and people still fucked using them.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by wozniacki on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:27PM (#6778883)
I have always wanted to know.

What does Bill Gates want for the world?

He's in India helping Polio efforts [1] and helping distribute mosquito nets in Africa. [2]

What does his philanthropic soul want, in the end and in the larger scheme of things?

Has he ever expressed this or laid out?

There wasn't much in his AMA on Reddit a while ago. [3]

[1] http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230330950...

[2] http://www.kplu.org/post/bill-gates-vs-mosquitoes-whos-winni...

[3] http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/18bhme/im_bill_gates_c...

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by c3o on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:21PM (#6779265)
"Here’s My Plan to Improve Our World — And How You Can Help" from 10 days ago: http://www.wired.com/business/2013/11/bill-gates-wired-essay...

"We take a double-pronged approach: (1) Narrow the gap so that advances for the rich world reach the poor world faster, and (2) turn more of the world’s IQ toward devising solutions to problems that only people in the poor world face."

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by cdcox on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:01PM (#6778983)
There was an interesting profile in Forbes about how he saw improving access to birth control, eliminating childhood and early adult mortality, and improving education both here and abroad as ways of leading to decreased populations and increased wealth and happiness.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/11/02/the-sec...

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by coffeemug on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:21PM (#6779073)
He made his mission pretty clear. He believes every human life has equal value. He wants to make basic services and liberties the developed world takes for granted available to every human being on planet Earth. He's applying his wealth and expertise to high impact projects that can make that a reality.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by melling on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:30PM (#6778888)
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by pervycreeper on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:41PM (#6779144)
I remember he made a comment (can't remember where) that he chooses projects which are likely to have the greatest impact per dollar, or something to that effect. You'll have to find the source yourself, though.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by kazagistar on Friday November 22, 2013 @02:55AM (#6779714)
He gives where he think it can do the most good the most efficiently. Specifically, his major goals seem to be global disease reduction and elimination.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by cabbeer on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:38PM (#6778909)
The Bill Gates Foundation is positioning itself in line with organizations such as the World Health Organization. Or at least that's how I see it.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by anigbrowl on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:29PM (#6779100)
Try stuff from him & Warren Buffet on Charlie Rose. All interviews are available on the website.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by jff on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:20PM (#6779071)
Seems like he wants to eradicate diseases, which is a pretty great plan. Polio, malaria, and now presumably AIDS and other STDs.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by iterationx on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:45PM (#6779336)
Why do rich white men develop condoms for Africa? So that there will be fewer black people. He's just like his father, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ6mjx4J7dM
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by ISL on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:55PM (#6778964)
A material as strong as graphene may have curious abrasive properties.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by avn2109 on Friday November 22, 2013 @12:18AM (#6779403)
Tribologist here, about to publish a study of reciprocating friction and wear in graphene-loaded plastic composites. We see two orders of magnitude wear reductions at 30,000 cycles for 10% graphene by mass (dry reciprocating conditions) and suppression of the abrasive wear mode. Also friction coefficient goes down by 10%, but other studies have reported much bigger friction coefficient improvements.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by colanderman on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:05PM (#6779003)
Doesn't graphite (a close relative of graphene) have lubricative properties?
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by wmeredith on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:28PM (#6779093)
Yep. We had graphite gel and spray for our pinewood derby axles in Boy Scouts.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by Wingman4l7 on Friday November 22, 2013 @12:40AM (#6779444)
Same here -- graphite lubricant was the standard stuff.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by vacri on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:10PM (#6779025)
A locksmith tried to fix our sticking front door lock with a bit of graphite spray, which I hadn't seen before.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by emhart on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:49PM (#6779168)
Scribble a pencil on a piece of paper for a while, fold it in half, blow the dust into the lock and run the key in and out a few times. Works like a charm.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by cjfont on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:02PM (#6778987)
I doubt the final product will be pure graphene, I'm sure it'll be thinly coated with something else (Teflon?)
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by jimmaswell on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:05PM (#6779004)
Isn't it not recommended to put Teflon inside of yourself or am I misremembering something?
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by etler on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:48PM (#6779163)
Teflon is actually completely inert in your body. It's only a problem if it is heated to the point of giving out fumes at 260 celsius, and I hope that isn't happening in the bedroom...
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by refurb on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:33PM (#6779113)
They use telfon in all sorts of implants. I don't think there are really any safety concerns.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by dhughes on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:11PM (#6779225)
Teflon or PFOA is supposedly in everyone's blood already at least in the US and probably most western nations it's so pervasive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfluorooctanoic_acid

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by ars on Friday November 22, 2013 @01:40AM (#6779565)
> Teflon or PFOA

Teflon and PFOA are not the same thing!

Teflon is made from PFOA true, but the properties of the two are quite different.

Teflon is completely inert, PFOA isn't.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by Double_Cast on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:43PM (#6779154)
If Teflon were anymore inert, it'd be a noble gas.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by ars on Friday November 22, 2013 @01:44AM (#6779573)
Teflon is extremely inert, but it's not quite as inert as a noble gas - the c-c bonds can dissociate and burn. (The f-c-f bonds can't.)
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by robabbott on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:08PM (#6779019)
I had read in another source that it would be a mixture of graphene and latex. Surely it will have some kind of lubricant.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by miga on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:37PM (#6779131)
Most condoms today are enhanced with advanced lubricants.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by jw_ on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:36PM (#6778903)
Hopefully the packaging is slightly different than what is pictured. :)
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by foobarian on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:39PM (#6778917)
Or not. The depicted condom would provide quite effective contraception for more reasons than just the material strength.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by kazagistar on Friday November 22, 2013 @02:53AM (#6779712)
The whole point of the article is that encouraging condom use is better then discouraging it.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by miga on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:40PM (#6779142)
Depending who unpacks it. I suppose that richest man in the world can be turn-on for many women...
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by bruceb on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:59PM (#6778974)
Maybe fund a small chip in your boxers that emits the loud cry of a baby when you take them off.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by obtino on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:12PM (#6779032)
It's not the material that's the problem in many places, but the cost. There are reports of people using post-exposure prophylaxis drugs over condoms because they're cheaper!

More info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24942903

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by miga on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:38PM (#6779137)
Only in places that allow use of cheap generic post-exposure drugs produced in India. Unfortunately the very same drugs in Europe are hell expensive. They should be probably subsidized by the country like Germany which is famous for its sex industry.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by gexla on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:58AM (#6780002)
So, back in the day we would have said "bring your rubbers." I suppose once this condom hits the market we will say something like "make sure to bring the lead for your pencil." Actually, do people ever refer to the graphite in pencils as lead anymore? We did when I was a kid.

The condom is something in bad need of a radical overhaul and it would have a huge effect. At least, if this could deal with the sensation component of the problem, then it would get more people to use them.

Still problems would be distribution (religious blocking and availability for the poor are issues here), education (family planning so people know the full financial effects of having lots of kids) and "killing the moment" when you stop to put the thing on.

At 100K per competing group, it seems like the foundation could be getting lots of "bang" for its buck here.

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by TIJ on Friday November 22, 2013 @08:07AM (#6780483)
Considering that most people don't wear condoms because they they think its coming in their way its a good idea to fund something that will encourage people to use condoms in developing nations such as africa and asia. Gates doing good job KUDOS. Now i only expect him to interviene into ms's anti-google missions and put a hold on that shitty business. Those are some cheap publicity stunts from ms while google is busy making cool products and amaze people[http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/11/21/google-building-chro...].
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by randartie on Thursday November 21, 2013 @11:13PM (#6779232)
The donation was 100 grand to 11 different teams. That's about 1 engineer per company for 1 year (if that?), is that really enough to do this? There's first the invention of this thing, then there's manufacturing process, etc.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by illumen on Friday November 22, 2013 @12:26AM (#6779422)
Plus PR, and global debate. The mass debate has to be worth 10x that much to the cause.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by chickenboot on Friday November 22, 2013 @03:08AM (#6779744)
I preferred the Guardian[1] piece on this, for it's lack of real content (who's heard of graphene?) and very entertaining comments.

[1] http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/21/graphen...

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by shirro on Friday November 22, 2013 @07:16AM (#6780353)
I can imagine the tech support calls. "Have you tied taking it off and on again?"
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by dnautics on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:14PM (#6779040)
so, just to be clear, is this still vaporware, a prototype condom has not been made yet?
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by robabbott on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:15PM (#6779045)
The grant has just been made. I think it will be a couple of years before this becomes real.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by minopret on Friday November 22, 2013 @05:18AM (#6780063)
No, it's aerogel condoms that are vaporware. Ho ho.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by JulianMorrison on Friday November 22, 2013 @07:23AM (#6780378)
Finally, science has the answer to "man of steel, woman of kleenex"[1].

[1]http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by Ellipsis753 on Friday November 22, 2013 @08:35AM (#6780579)
Am I the only one that finds "impenetrable" a funny selling point? It makes perfect sense but still sounds funny. I'm surprised they didn't go for "unbreakable".
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by Gravityloss on Saturday November 23, 2013 @07:55PM (#6788157)
I posted the same idea 244 days ago but was downvoted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5432569

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by VladRussian2 on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:23PM (#6778864)
just by association with inpenetrable, armor-piercing bullets, etc...

http://media.uow.edu.au/news/UOW118285.html

"UOW researchers have used graphene to develop a new composite material which can produce the toughest fibres to date- even tougher than spider silk and Kevlar!"

Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by robabbott on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:24PM (#6778867)
there's an advertisement in there somewhere...
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by miga on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:34PM (#6779121)
Let's hope they will also be 100x stronger than current ones, so they never break.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by kijin on Friday November 22, 2013 @02:29AM (#6779662)
Just wait until somebody staples them to a sex-ed pamphlets and hands them out on a college campus.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by iagooar on Friday November 22, 2013 @03:01AM (#6779728)
Can we consider using "impenetrable condoms" as an intended pun?
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by darins33 on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:41PM (#6779146)
I swear. He better call it Steel Gates
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by mumbi on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:16PM (#6778841)
that'll make some money.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by robabbott on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:21PM (#6778855)
Every propellerhead on the planet will buy some just because.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by enneff on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:56PM (#6778968)
Weird comment. I, like most people, will likely buy hundreds with which to fuck people.
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by jstalin on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:56PM (#6779191)
Micro... hard?
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by sigzero on Thursday November 21, 2013 @09:57PM (#6778969)
But...don't you want penetration? wah wah wah
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by bonemachine on Thursday November 21, 2013 @10:46PM (#6779158)
Gives the expression "Billware" a whole new meaning!
Re:Bill Gates funds creation of graphene condoms by henpa on Friday November 22, 2013 @04:42AM (#6779945)
At the end of the article: "Now read: Do humans dream of android prostitutes?"

Is that Google's answer to Microsoft's condoms? ;-)