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Re:IMG_0416 by LeoPanthera on Sunday November 10, 2024 @06:31PM (#42103366)
There's something magical when one location becomes the default for something. A site like this would be impossible if YouTube wasn't the place for videos.

It's why I'm sad that we no longer have one obvious default for microblogging. It was such a rich source of thoughts. That's all gone now.

Re:IMG_0416 by paledot on Sunday November 10, 2024 @06:45PM (#42103436)
And the former default is no longer developer friendly. (Or friendly to anyone else, really.)
Re:IMG_0416 by a1o on Sunday November 10, 2024 @08:34PM (#42103901)
I can't tell if this trail of talk is about Tumblr, Blogger, or something else - idnk, does anyone else remembers Astroatlas?
Re:IMG_0416 by Wingy on Sunday November 10, 2024 @09:25PM (#42104142)
I’m pretty sure they’re referring to Twitter.
Re:IMG_0416 by briandear on Monday November 11, 2024 @02:25AM (#42105137)
Twitter still exists. Renamed. Same exact thing. You can create an account and post whatever random things you want. Some people might follow you. Some might not. If you see something that makes you sad, you can block the person who posted the sad thing.
Re:IMG_0416 by hmry on Monday November 11, 2024 @03:18AM (#42105366)
"no longer developer friendly" referring to them re-pricing their API to make aggregating data for fun monetarily infeasible.
Re:IMG_0416 by danieldk on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:35AM (#42106401)
Not just aggregating data for fun. It made third-party clients like Tweetbot impossible. Similar to non-old.reddit.com, the web interface has been crappy for a pretty long time, but was easily worked around by using better clients.

No more.

Re:IMG_0416 by staplers on Monday November 11, 2024 @03:13AM (#42105339)
It's a walled garden. Unless you are logged into an account it's basically a private network.
Re:IMG_0416 by lenkite on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:11AM (#42106256)
All social media have to be walled gardens or be free-prey for ravenous AI bots. Evolution at work.
Re:IMG_0416 by danieldk on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:36AM (#42106409)
or be free-prey for ravenous AI bots

Have you recently been on X?

Re:IMG_0416 by latexr on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:57AM (#42106525)
I think your parent comment is talking about AI bots consuming the content, while you seem to be making a point about AI bots posting content.
Re:IMG_0416 by darkwater on Monday November 11, 2024 @08:55AM (#42107112)
There are thousands of bluecheck AI bots that just copy-paste/regurgitate or just make up stupid content and post it continuously to get engagement views and money.

It is really worse than before.

Re:IMG_0416 by mavhc on Monday November 11, 2024 @10:19AM (#42107739)
Why are you following them?
Re:IMG_0416 by Uehreka on Monday November 11, 2024 @11:28AM (#42108321)
You don’t need to follow someone to see their content. When you open the app the default timeline is the “For You” one. Sometimes you don’t even notice that the app has switched back to “For You”, X definitely doesn’t really want you staying on the “Following” tab.
Re:IMG_0416 by 5040 on Monday November 11, 2024 @12:39PM (#42108895)
The regurgitated content is often in the form of comments in popular threads.
Re:IMG_0416 by drusepth on Monday November 11, 2024 @03:51PM (#42110316)
"Popular" tweets (of which these bot accounts often fall into, because they're propped up by bot responses and engagement farming) are pushed into your feed even if you're not following (or engaging) with them.
Re:IMG_0416 by darkwater on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @03:01PM (#42129342)
I'm not following them, I just see them in any damn mildly interesting thread out there.
Re:IMG_0416 by latexr on Monday November 11, 2024 @05:24AM (#42106008)
> Same exact thing.

It very much is not. No third-party clients; can’t see threads without an account; owner inserting himself and his ideology at the centre; fewer and less diverse participating people; diminished trust in the platform; more spam; different verification rules… Even the character limit is different.

Re:IMG_0416 by walthamstow on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:41AM (#42106439)
Even blocking has changed!
Re:IMG_0416 by eru on Monday November 11, 2024 @02:03AM (#42105050)
Probably Twitter? Tumblr and Blogger were for regular blogging, not micro-blogging.
Re:IMG_0416 by johtso on Monday November 11, 2024 @09:14AM (#42107240)
Youtube certainly isn't developer friendly.. their APIs have very strict limits that often force people to go down the scraping route
Re:IMG_0416 by hoseja on Monday November 11, 2024 @06:03AM (#42106213)
Oh you'll be back.
Re:IMG_0416 by adr1an on Monday November 11, 2024 @11:12AM (#42108189)
We don't need centralization for this. Federated protocols like mastodon have friendlier APIs than some of the most popular walled gardens of today...
Re:IMG_0416 by xattt on Monday November 11, 2024 @12:32PM (#42108833)
Discovery sucks, though.
Re:IMG_0416 by culi on Monday November 11, 2024 @03:47PM (#42110292)
it's getting better
Re:IMG_0416 by fsflover on Monday November 11, 2024 @01:37PM (#42109389)
Just like in the Internet?
Re:IMG_0416 by JasserInicide on Monday November 11, 2024 @05:30PM (#42111027)
Mastodon is a walled garden
Re:IMG_0416 by AlexeyBelov on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @01:21AM (#42113264)
Can you elaborate?
Re:IMG_0416 by account42 on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @05:21AM (#42114313)
Mastodon the software isn't. Mastodon the community is because they want to control who is and isn't allowed to federate.
Re:IMG_0416 by adr1an on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @05:15AM (#42114275)
iiuc your argument, it would be more accurate to phrase it as: mastodon, lemmy, and other federated social protocols are like archipelagos of small islands.

Or, you were referring to bluesky.

Re:IMG_0416 by MichaelZuo on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @08:35AM (#42115346)
Mastodon contains several sub federations that near automatically ban each other’s users… So a very tribal and extremely violent archipelago of small islands…
Re:IMG_0416 by Dylan16807 on Monday November 11, 2024 @03:06PM (#42110050)
I don't see why a site like this couldn't search one or more of the top video sites if there was healthy competition.