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Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by lostlogin on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @01:27PM (#38784906)
What are the arguments used against iodised salt? Where would they get their iodine?
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by dfxm12 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @04:37PM (#38787057)
I always heard if you eat seafood, you get enough iodine and can stick to plain salt. It looks like milk and eggs are a good source as well.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/iodine-rich-foods

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by wouldbecouldbe on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:14PM (#38785421)
Depends on the salt, there are few that hardly contain more then dairy, but some salts contain enough to make it make sense.

My main issue with normal salt is the anti-caking ingredient needed to not have it stick together, in general not needed with sea salt and a real grinder.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by EdwardDiego on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:25PM (#38785532)
You hate sand, huh.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by wouldbecouldbe on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:01PM (#38785955)
Most common one used here is Sodium Ferrocyanide : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_ferrocyanide

Also used as a coating in welding among other things. And like other commentor said, a nephew of cyanide.

Now Im sure most of us will be fine, but I prefer not to eat that a few times a day. If you think that makes me foolish, be my guest.

It's also not needed, there are plenty of other sources of Iodine, and sea salt from the grinder is perfectly fine.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by cyberax on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @08:56PM (#38789092)
You can actually consume a _lot_ of cyanide without negative consequences, your body can detoxify it easily in small quantities. You can dissolve a lethal dose of cyanide in a bottle of water, and you'll be fine if you drink it in small sips over the course of a day.

Cyanide is so toxic because it has a high affinity for iron ions, so it deactivates iron-containing enzymes that are crucial for respiration. But in ferrocyanide it is _already_ combined with iron.

Ferrocyanide compounds like Prussian blue are even sometimes used as an antidotes for heavy metal poisoning.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by wouldbecouldbe on Thursday December 28, 2023 @06:49AM (#38792513)
Yeah, just because it doesn't directly harm a human in small dosis, doesn't mean it's a good idea to just add it to the daily diet of a human.

We simply don't know, and haven't research the longterm effect of small dosis on a daily intake. Especially combined with other conservatives & chemical additives in small dosis.

You can't deny there are some major diseases in the modern world on a rise and we have no idea why.

Yet here everyone always so sure that everything we're doing with food additives, pesticides and chemical processing is super safe.

There's just no need to eat these things, just eat normal food.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by cyberax on Thursday December 28, 2023 @11:58AM (#38795474)
> We simply don't know, and haven't research the longterm effect of small dosis on a daily intake.

For cyanide? We actually do. Cassava roots contain quite a bit of it, and they are used as a staple in some places in Africa. You can indeed can get chronic poisoning, but it requires A LOT of cyanide.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by EdwardDiego on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @04:29PM (#38860191)
Huh, why do they use that in the EU over silicates? (That was why I referenced sand btw).

Also, not sure what the relevance to iodine is?

Incidentally, iodine isn't easily sourced in some countries, due to soils that contain very little of it. My country (NZ) used to have a very real goitre problem until the introduction of iodised salt in the 1920s.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by morsch on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:41PM (#38785715)
The anti caking I commonly see in salt is potassium cyanide [ferrocyanide, actually, see below].

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_ferrocyanide

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by brilee on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:54PM (#38785854)
I'm sure you're aware that ferrocyanide is not the same thing as cyanide - the cyanide is bound so tightly to the iron center that it is nontoxic.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by vGPU on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:15PM (#38789595)
> However, like all ferrocyanide salt solutions, addition of an acid or exposure to UV light can result in the production of hydrogen cyanide gas, which is extremely toxic.

Now that does seem like a bit of a concern, doesn’t it?

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by EdwardDiego on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @04:30PM (#38860201)
It's a matter of quantity, like all things toxicity.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by oynqr on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:57PM (#38785909)
That is not potassium cyanide.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by morsch on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:37PM (#38786436)
Yes, sorry, shouldn't post in a hurry. I amended my post. I'm not worried about the stuff at all, I buy salt with it all the time. But it's not sand, that's all I wanted to say.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by tekla on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:12PM (#38786108)
Skipped High School Chemistry huh? Read the Wiki

>Potassium ferrocyanide is nontoxic, and does not decompose into cyanide in the body. The toxicity in rats is low, with lethal dose (LD50) at 6400 mg/kg.[2] The kidneys are the organ for ferrocyanide toxicity.[11]

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by fragmede on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:08PM (#38789552)
> When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by jghn on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:33PM (#38785613)
I've 100% switched to kosher salt & various sea salts with my own cooking. Not because I'm anti-iodine, but because I like those salts better for cooking purposes. Given how much attention was paid to using kosher salt in cooking by people like Alton Brown over the last 20 years I would expect I'm far from an outlier.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by ramraj07 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:35PM (#38785639)
Isn't kosher salt literally just regular salt but in a particular particle size? I also use Himalayan and kosher salt but thats because I eat a ton of junk food which has iodised salt. If you're health conscious and don't do that, it's probably not a bad idea to keep iodised salt and add it in times it's not that important you need to pinch the exact right amount in your fingers or whatever.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by kergonath on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:44PM (#38785743)
You pretty much cannot have too much iodine. It is a good idea to use iodised salt in general.

[edit] fair enough, I need to qualify that. You pretty much cannot get too much iodine with something that looks like a normal diet, and in any case iodised salt is not what push iodine levels over the top. And in a normal diets, iodine deficiency is much, much more likely than iodine overload.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by MichaelZuo on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:15PM (#38786154)
> You pretty much cannot have too much iodine.

Based on what reasoning?

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by op00to on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:11PM (#38788011)
In reference to iodized salt, you would die of salt overdose before there are ill effects from iodine.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by MichaelZuo on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @11:10PM (#38789953)
What's stopping salt from having a much higher concentration of iodine than the normal advertised value?

e.g. manufacturing error such that a dangerous amount of iodine is accidentally added.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by twright0 on Thursday December 28, 2023 @01:30AM (#38790686)
I benefit from a very robust set of regulatory controls ensuring that food products are as advertised and generally safe for me to consume?
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by MichaelZuo on Thursday December 28, 2023 @10:59AM (#38794719)
'generally safe' implies that some small number of folks still suffer from excess iodine due to contamination, manufacturing errors, etc...

It's probably reasonable for 999 999 people to benefit in exchange for 1 person being very unlucky, but that's a different argument that needs to be made.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by adrianN on Thursday December 28, 2023 @01:55AM (#38790802)
I guess the same mechanisms that stop manufactures accidentally adding poison to their product.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by MichaelZuo on Thursday December 28, 2023 @10:52AM (#38794637)
Which is nothing? There's a clearly non-zero rate of dangerous contamination in food products, in a market as large as the US, that nobody is able to fully prevent.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by calamari4065 on Thursday December 28, 2023 @12:00PM (#38795510)
Simply never way anything and you'll be safe!
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by MichaelZuo on Thursday December 28, 2023 @12:53PM (#38796197)
Like I mentioned to the other replier, a probabilistic argument is fine, and I would even agree it's reasonable for 999 999 people to benefit in exchange for 1 person being very unlucky, but that's a different argument that needs to be made.

And nobody, in this post at least, has made that argument, nor has anyone even linked to such.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by littlestymaar on Thursday December 28, 2023 @03:38PM (#38798298)
Whats stopping non-iodine salt from being poisoned by Cadmium or mercury? You can make up imaginary risks for pretty much everything.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by kashunstva on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:52PM (#38786613)
> You pretty much cannot have too much iodine

You may wish to research the Wolff-Chaikoff effect.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by saturn_vk on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:51PM (#38785830)
The article states otherwise
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by manymatter on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:18PM (#38786198)
Well, the article brings up iodine overdose from popular medications at the time, but you pretty much can't get too much iodine from iodized salt without having consumed way too much salt.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by romwell on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:44PM (#38786524)
>The article states otherwise

No it doesn't. You're ignoring the context.

You can't have too much iodine when it's obtained from iodized salt.

...because you can't handle that much salt.

From the article: 10x'ing the concentration of iodine in salt had no adverse effects. You'd have to eat salt by the pound daily to reach levels where iodine is harmful, but at that point, that'll be the least of your worries.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by tomrod on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @04:28PM (#38786971)
To be fair to the interlocuters, kergonath left the salt out of his or her or their comment.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by Taniwha on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:26PM (#38788136)
I think that depends on the concentration of the iodine in the salt
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by simtel20 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:25PM (#38788539)
Right, but that's a standardized fortification so any iodized salt you get anywhere in the world now would make that statement true.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by kergonath on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:37PM (#38785654)
That’s fine for people who have a balanced diet rich enough in iodine. Which, to be fair, should be most people bothering about sea salt in the first place. For those who do not, it’s unfortunate, though. There is a reason why adding iodine is a good idea in the first place.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by riffraff on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:26PM (#38788129)
Sea salt and kosher salt also come iodized, it's an independent feature.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by kergonath on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:34PM (#38785626)
Pretty much the same as against fluorine in water in the States: it’s unnatural/a globalist conspiracy/killing our traditional way of life/a plot to subdue the people for <reasons>.

There is no scientifically sound reason against it.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by dllthomas on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:04PM (#38786002)
You forgot "sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids"
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by TheCleric on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @05:45PM (#38787777)
I deny them my essence.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by jeremyjh on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:23PM (#38788112)
We’re still not sure what that last bit means.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by LambdaComplex on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:26PM (#38788127)
That's why I use ed, the standard text editor
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by kleton on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:59PM (#38786678)
In Deutschland, the iodized salt is nearly always iodized+fluoridated, whereas the only other option is plain salt with neither.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by adrianN on Thursday December 28, 2023 @01:58AM (#38790814)
https://shop.rewe.de/p/bad-reichenhaller-marken-jodsalz-500g...

Iodized salt with nothing else should be available in most supermarkets.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by Cockbrand on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:47PM (#38785787)
Well, fluoridated water tastes really… well, special, and it almost feels like an indirect subsidy for the water filter industry. Iodine in salt is (to my taste) pretty neutral in comparison.

[EDIT: as pointed out in a child comment, the taste actually comes from chlorine, not fluoride.]

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by naremu on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:57PM (#38785900)
Isn't that taste chlorine from the sanitation process?

Either way I actually do assume water filter companies lobby to keep public water as subpar an option as possible, there's certainly no incentive not to.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by Cockbrand on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:39PM (#38786462)
Yes, you're right, I mixed up fluoride and chlorine. And thus my previous comment doesn't make sense any more. My apologies!
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by eichin on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @08:06PM (#38788808)
It doesn't bother me for drinking, but I've gotten in the habit of keeping an open (loosely covered would probably work too) pitcher of water in the fridge for making coffee, so it sits at least overnight before use, and dissipates some (having already served its purpose.)
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by xp84 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:37PM (#38788229)
Somehow I doubt “Big Filter” has the kind of money and clout they would need to pull that off. I’d accept being proven wrong, but I just doubt it in the absence of seeing proof.

Most of the taste problem that’s in our water “on purpose” is chlorine and it’s not added out of spite, it’s added for sanitary reasons.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by Cockbrand on Friday December 29, 2023 @05:30AM (#38803562)
Apart from me mixing up chlorine and fluoride, my comment was a bit hyperbolic - of course, there's no Big Filter industrial complex :)

I haven't done a lot of research on how to clean water, but e.g. in Germany, tap water isn't chlorinated and thus has a much more neutral taste. And it's very much regulated to a high standard.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by tourmalinetaco on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:47PM (#38785782)
There’s scientifically sound reasons for not wanting to drink fluorine, namely that the science is still out for whether it’s useful when used alongside regular topical applications. Not to mention excessive fluorine can stain or pit the teeth, and that it may even destroy nerve tissue.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/magazine_article/fluor...

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by kleton on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @04:03PM (#38786710)
Only the measurable decrease in IQ from municipal water fluoridation, which can seen when comparing Portland, where they do not fluoridate, to similar large cities in the PNW where they do.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by lostlogin on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @05:08PM (#38787408)
> the science is still out for whether it’s useful when used alongside regular topical applications.

That’s a meaningless comparison. The whole point is that people aren’t doing topical application.

A similar debate to this is the adding folate to flour or bread.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by emmelaich on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:54PM (#38788348)
Don't most (all?) toothpastes contain fluoride?
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by Taniwha on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:30PM (#38788171)
The LD50 of fluoride in drinking water is actually lower than the LD50 of water itself - drink enough fluoridated water to die from fluoride poisoning and you'll die from water poisoning first
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by adrianN on Thursday December 28, 2023 @01:59AM (#38790823)
Things can have negative health effects without killing you, so the LD50 is not particularly helpful in this context.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by colechristensen on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:55PM (#38785875)
There is scientific reason against it, just not matching many of the conspiracy nuts’ rhetoric.

Most of Western Europe bans fluoridation. It can make your bones a little less elastic and a little more brittle, and there are a few other known or potential negative effects.

There are also just better ways to prevent cavities.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by naremu on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @04:15PM (#38786830)
This seems like the sane, boring reality. People with modern dental routines probably don't benefit from the original purposes of fluoridation the same way people in the early 1900s only just getting electricity did.

But people only just getting electricity in the early 1900s easily benefited more than were harmed by such things. Poor dental health gets scary quick.

I guess the question becomes how low do you lower the bar for those who would willingly devoid themselves of sane things to include in their lives. How much freedom does one man have to harm his self, though he thinks as a self, costs to him are more often than not also costs incurred to society (and usually a society that'd prefer to not see people do self harmful things)

At least in the US though, it seems that popular opposition to fluoridation started with cold war era conservative conspiracies (precious bodily fluids). So, you know.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by adrian_b on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:26PM (#38786284)
Unlike the case for iodine, there is no known reason for ingesting fluoride.

The only favorable effect of fluoride is achieved externally, by replacing the hydroxide ions in the tooth enamel, so tooth paste with fluoride or mouth wash with fluoride are good, but not drinking water with fluoride.

Ingesting fluoride is at best useless and at worst harmful, because too much ingested fluoride causes bone fragility, as it happens in some parts of the world where the drinking water contains naturally too much fluoride.

Moreover, while the amount of salt eaten daily is more or less constant, the amount of ingested water can vary a lot, so it is not possible to predict accurately how much fluoride will be ingested daily, to ensure a safe concentration in the drinking water.

No matter how you analyze it, adding fluoride to drinking water is just stupid and dangerous, like also the alleged justification for it, that most people are so dumb that they cannot be taught to wash their teeth.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by lostlogin on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @04:20PM (#38786886)
> Unlike the case for iodine, there is no known reason for ingesting fluoride.

If we ignore the whole point of it (reducing dental cavities), what do you think it is added for?

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by kube-system on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:45PM (#38786535)
There is stronger evidence that public water fluoridation reduces tooth decay in children than there is evidence that it does any sort of harm. The only 'harm' linked to public water fluoridation is mild dental fluorosis, which is cosmetic.

There are natural sources of water that have fluoride levels high enough to cause harm, but these are at levels of fluoride much higher than what is in treated water.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by palemoonale on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:56PM (#38785891)
This from a country where tapwater unfortunately typically tastes like crap?

(b/c it is chlorinated)

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by pixl97 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:10PM (#38786074)
Unless it is significantly over chlorinated tasting like crap isn't because of the chlorine, in general the causation will be reversed here. Places that use a lot of chlorine are typically trying to kill off things that both taste bad and will try to kill you.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by emmelaich on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:52PM (#38788332)
Not to argue about dosing water, but fluoride has no value ingested and is poisonous at low doses. It's best to moderate your arguments against the anti-fluoride mob or you're too easily dismissed yourself.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3956646/

> Public health approaches for global dental caries reduction that do not involve systemic ingestion of fluoride are urgently needed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by emmet on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @01:30PM (#38784931)
they're afraid it'll give them 5G or whatever shite they make up on the spot
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by meepmorp on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @01:31PM (#38784938)
Some people dislike the flavor of iodized salt. But what would you expect from future cretins?
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by ch4s3 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:05PM (#38785323)
There's literally no way anyone can taste the difference between iodized and non iodized table salt blind to the source. There's just so little there, it seems the Swiss standard is something like 25 mg/kg. There's probably more plastic in the salt than iodine at this point.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by ufo on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @04:21PM (#38786895)
Sadly, this is the argument that people give ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by tonfa on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:20PM (#38785486)
> There's probably more plastic in the salt than iodine at this point.

Probably not in swiss salt tho (it's usually mountain salt, not sea salt).

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by ch4s3 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:29PM (#38785580)
I thought it was clear that I meant that in jest. My point was that the amount of iodine is imperceptibly small.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by tonfa on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:03PM (#38785991)
But microplastic in sea salt is a real thing (and might be a bit worrying, personally I now always go for mountain salt, deposited pre-anthropocene era)
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by caymanjim on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @04:12PM (#38786790)
What an absurd thing to fixate on. There are a million other things you consume that are going to have more microplastics in them.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by ch4s3 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @05:59PM (#38787922)
Haha, I totally agree.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by ch4s3 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:52PM (#38786612)
Sure. Even still you’re talking about a highly abrasive product often packed in plastic. But none of that is material to my point.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by masklinn on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:33PM (#38785614)
People almost certainly confuse iodine with anticaking agents.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by lostlogin on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:21PM (#38785502)
The article mentions that blind taste testing couldn’t detect it at 10x the strength.

Surely people test before claiming such things?

“Unicef, concerned about the sensitivity of children to odd flavours, commissioned a study in which rice was prepared with salt iodised at ten times the maximum recommended concentration. In double-blind taste tests, the iodine was undetectable.”

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by shakil on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:32PM (#38785607)
Iodized salt is almost always the industrially produced variety, pure NaCL and much more salty than the natural varieties - either sea or mountain salts that typically include other minerals and are milder in flavor.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by kergonath on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:52PM (#38785834)
We have iodised sea salt around here, and it’s not more nor less industrial than standard sea salt. It’s true that the flavour is different than hand-processed sea salt or fleur de sel because of those impurities (which include microplastics and other less-than-ideal compounds, though, even though I love and use mostly barely-processed sea salt), but it is neither more nor less salty.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by pixl97 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @03:12PM (#38786115)
That is more about crystal size and roughness than anything else. Some companies are working on nanoscale crystals of salt that allow you to use significantly less salt for the same saltiness profile based on these properties.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by xp84 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @06:44PM (#38788278)
Cool! Where do I sign up for the salt innovation newsletter? I want to try this when it comes out.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by Baeocystin on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @08:15PM (#38788855)
Just run regular salt for a few seconds in a blender. I'm not joking, I prefer using powdered salt when seasoning sliced tomatoes and the like, and it does make a difference in perception vs. dose.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by mosburger on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @02:42PM (#38785724)
FWIW, that was addressed in the article:

> Whatever chefs might claim, this fact is well established: in 1995, Unicef, concerned about the sensitivity of children to odd flavours, commissioned a study in which rice was prepared with salt iodised at ten times the maximum recommended concentration. In double-blind taste tests, the iodine was undetectable.

Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by meepmorp on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @05:18PM (#38787485)
I'm just repeating what people have told me.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by CogitoCogito on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @05:53PM (#38787871)
In this instance it seems you should avoid this habit.
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by meepmorp on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @07:31PM (#38788570)
In your head, did that sound wittier than it reads?
Re:A National Evil – the curse of the goitre in Switzerland by CogitoCogito on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @08:34PM (#38788968)
Certainly wittier than the repetition of ignorant nonsense.