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Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple timezones

https://poleclock.com

Pole Clock is a single analog clock with multiple timezones.

I designed this Pole Clock to be a helpful tool for people like myself who often struggle with managing their sense of time.

I found that analog clocks are generally easier to read and understand than digital ones, however I find the fact that every day is broken into two 12-hour rotations unintuitive. A single 24-hour rotation makes it easier to grasp where in the day you are, the bottom half representing night and the top half representing day.

Additionally, because the clock displays 24 hours, you can add extra hour hands on the clock for other time zones. This is especially useful if you work remotely or have friends and colleagues in different time zones. At a single glance, see where they are in their days and energy levels!

I hope you'll give the Pole Clock a try and find that it helps you better understand and manage your sense of time.

( 166 comments | on HN )
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by codegladiator on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:56AM (#34196958)
Nice, very pleasing
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:03AM (#34197015)
Glad you like it!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by nairboon on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:10AM (#34197080)
You might want to rethink the call to vote on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#ring
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:41AM (#34197353)
Thank you! Just removed the word 'voting' from the link to this post
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by bramblerose on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:15AM (#34197123)
A suggestion: support merging timezones into a single hand. Currently, if two timezones overlap, only the first TZ is shown. However, one might want two hands as the DST shifts may be different.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:45AM (#34197397)
Great idea! I could combine the names on a single hand
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by rsapkf on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:19AM (#34197158)
Something similar (but simpler) I made for my personal use: https://rsapkf.org/tz
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by shrubble on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:25AM (#34197210)
week of the year: 53/52 ... perhaps you meant it as a joke?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by JonathonW on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:16AM (#34197766)
It’s possible (with the ISO week calendar) to have a week 53– on years where Jan 1 is on Thursday or Wednesday for leap years.

2022 was not such a year; there appears to be a bug here.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by Waterluvian on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:19AM (#34197166)
First thing I did was add Newfoundland and nope, it doesn’t add another minute hand.

Time zones are ridiculous, eh?

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:41AM (#34197355)
Haha, yes! But Newfoundland's hour hand should be offset a little bit!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by Waterluvian on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:45AM (#34197398)
Ah yes that too. A classic edge case to add frustrating complexity to your implementation! :)
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:52AM (#34197498)
Always fun! It does the same for every other offset timezone, and seen from that timezone, everything else is slightly offset :)
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by laserlight on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:01PM (#34198308)
How about an option to show the digital clock on the hand. Engineer in me is not satisfied with lack of precision.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by lifthrasiir on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:25AM (#34197212)
Not sure if this was an inspiration, but xkcd has a neat clock: https://xkcd.com/now/
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:44AM (#34197384)
No! But this is fabulous! I'd love to add it to the README
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by laserlight on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:29AM (#34197238)
It was a mindfuck to see AM/PM clock when the title read 24h.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:39AM (#34197334)
I've changed it back to 24h by default just now

You can change between AM/PM and 24h in the 'Configure Timezones' menu!

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by johnchristopher on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:30AM (#34197244)
Ah ! So, that's what ticked me off :D.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:39AM (#34197338)
Oops! It's 24h again now!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by johnchristopher on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:30AM (#34197242)
Cute ^^.

I see there's a Statue of Liberty icon for NY, it'd be nice to have icons for other cities :).

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by Piko on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:32AM (#34197264)
You can change it yourself in the settings
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by bookofjoe on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:30AM (#34197248)
Put this on YouTube: video can be easily linked/embedded
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by petodo on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:38AM (#34197326)
the city with picture arm is not readable on mobile, you need to zoom to know the actual city, it would be better to just use name instead of such small picture

also quite odd default choice of cities, so I have own European city, London, then 3 East Asia cities and 2 US cities with nothing between central Europe and Thailand, no middle east, no India

it would be also better if every other hour would be bigger so it's easier to figure out minutes, with all of them having same size it's confusing and more difficult to read as if they had highlighted positions of original hours

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by pimlottc on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:44AM (#34197387)
It's not very legible on a laptop either. Based on the orientation, I thought it was one of those old-timey pointing hand symbols [0].

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manicule

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:51AM (#34197481)
Enticing you to configure the timezones yourself, ehhh? Ehhh? wiggles eyebrows
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by habibur on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:45AM (#34197402)
Excellent. You can see at a glance which of the cities are in right now in day light and where's night.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by Aardwolf on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:59AM (#34197585)
Not precisely though since in different places, the sun goes up/under at different times.

An interesting thing could be if the small hands had a color that indicates the night/day/dusk/dawn

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by walthamstow on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:23AM (#34197846)
I've always found it quite weird (though obviously convenient) that Warsaw and Dublin are on the same time zone
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by Symbiote on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:25AM (#34197877)
They are not. It is 17:25 in Warsaw now, 16:25 in Dublin.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by walthamstow on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:53AM (#34198215)
Oops, not sure what city I was thinking of when I wrote Dublin

My point is that CET feels rather wide to me, so I guess substitute for Sevilla or Madrid

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by michaelt on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:17PM (#34199066)
If you want a single-view visualisation of sunrise/sunset across the globe, there's always this design: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunearth.html
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:49AM (#34197465)
Right? A 'good enough' solution / update to the regular clock, I felt! :)
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by nonethewiser on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:47AM (#34197438)
Why not abbreviate New York as NY instead of New? Why also use a statue of liberty emoji for eastern standard time instead of EST or NY?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:49AM (#34197451)
You can configure the name to display whatever you like :)
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by jsjohnst on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:36PM (#34198633)
Actually, you can’t if you are in that time zone. If I have my local device in a different time zone, then yes, I can set the name.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:05PM (#34202492)
Oh, right! I should actually just delete the display of the local time zone... done!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by JEDI-HACKER on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:49AM (#34197464)
Why all the why questions?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by cormullion on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:50AM (#34197471)
Get it added to the collection at https://24hourtime.info/2022/07/13/the-sun-clock/
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by perilunar on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:07PM (#34203491)
That's my clock!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by shawkinaw on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:57AM (#34197565)
Looks a lot like the app World Clock Pro I’ve used for a while: https://worldclock.pro/mobile/
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by btbuildem on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:52AM (#34198211)
And that one seems to handle the minute hand question by omitting the minute hand altogether
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by nsainaney on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:01AM (#34197604)
Shouldn't there be two minute hands if you add LA and India (PST and IST)? The minutes are offset by 30 mins in this scenario.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by dfee on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:34AM (#34198009)
Came here looking for a comment suggesting these discrepancies. I was not disappointed.

See also: “Falsehoods programmers believe about time”

https://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-program...

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:44PM (#34202354)
Hey meaniehead... I added offsets to the hour hands for +30 and +45 timezones!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by ciex on Sunday January 01, 2023 @07:33AM (#34205811)
Can anyone recommend a book that discusses in depth all the peculiarities of timekeeping, time zones, historical efforts for measuring time, etc.? I would love to read something like that and I feel that there are many stories to be told.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by tinodb on Sunday January 01, 2023 @03:40PM (#34210614)
It’s a long post, not a book but still a great resource on this topic:

https://zachholman.com/talk/utc-is-enough-for-everyone-right

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by gumby on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:07AM (#34197671)
You can see this by the position of the hour hands. The minute hand is “just” a convenience.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by psnehanshu on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:15AM (#34197758)
Another one for Nepal, they have an offset of 45 mins.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by mikrl on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:29PM (#34199192)
Also, Newfoundland and Labrador (GMT -3:30)
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by askvictor on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:00PM (#34201202)
And South Australia
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by spiffytech on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:12PM (#34199650)
It appears the minute hand only reflects local time.

When I add time zones with fractional-hour offsets, the hour hand for those zones is at the appropriate angle within the indicated hour.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by divbzero on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:03AM (#34197624)
Two ideas to consider adding to this cool concept:

1. Could there be an option to place 00:00 at the top instead of the bottom? It looks like both positions have been used for analog 24 hour clocks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_analog_dial

2. Could there be an option to set the background to be a polar-projected world map (e.g. United Nations emblem) that rotates to align with the turning of the hour hands?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projecti...

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by krisoft on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:07PM (#34198367)
For the second one, that is what is done by this xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1335/

But unfortunately they have noon at the top.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by Svip on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:35PM (#34199269)
> 1. Could there be an option to place 00:00 at the top instead of the bottom?

I wear a 24 hour analogue dial wrist watch, with 24 on top. I'll admit, I sometimes wish I had chosen 12 on top, since it's more naturally to look at the watch during the day, and less so during the night. Since it more naturally follows - on quick visual inspection - what it would look like on a normal 12 hour analogue dial.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by giardia on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:57PM (#34199507)
Sounds cool, would you care to link the make/model?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by Svip on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:03PM (#34199573)
It was the only distributor of 24 hour analogue wrist watches I could find, where the prices were reasonable, is called AAA Watch Club.[0]

Mine is specifically from the Military Time Collection, called Military Dress, I believe.[1] Unfortunately, the specific model appeared to be sold out right now.

0 - https://www.aaawatchclub.com/

1 - https://www.aaawatchclub.com/military-time-watches_5to6.html...

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by giardia on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:22PM (#34199739)
Thanks
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by stevekemp on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:56PM (#34200095)
There are quite of a few of those about, I have a Vostok 24 hour watch and it's a nice conversational piece.

Rateka also makes a well-regarded 24 hour dial.

Both easily available for €100 or so, though only the vostoks are automatic.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:11PM (#34199646)
Great ideas! I've added both! Find them in Settings! Enjoy!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by slobotron on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:42PM (#34199940)
Seems that the World Map is "fixed" and does not rotate to keep it aligned with the hands (expectation is that New York hand should roughly point to New York on the map)?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:39PM (#34202316)
It rotates on my machine... :(
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by davchana on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:49PM (#34200023)
Could you add the share link? So that if I share the URL with a friend or family,they get exactly my configuration of cities from URL. Maybe the cities can be embedded in URL as GET parameters.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:40PM (#34202322)
I can add it for sure! It's just a bit more technically involved so maybe next year!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by nileshtrivedi on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:49PM (#34202381)
The minute-hand seems to be buggy. It seems to take its 0 as top even though the 0 for hours is at bottom. So when I choose midnight-on-top option, it flips and 00:45 time shows the minute-hand in due-east which is completely wrong.

Would also love to see an option to highlight working hours (9am to 5pm?). Those are important markers for most individuals.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by 0x0203 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:42PM (#34199949)
Another consideration might be to switch 24 to 0 or 00. I've seen a lot of 24 hour clocks that use 24 and I'm not sure why this ever happened since there is no time in hour 24. 12:15 AM/PM is a real thing for a 12-hour clock, but 24:15 isn't, as far as I'm aware. Unless some people consider that to be the very first hour of the day, but that seems like it would invite more confusion.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by midasuni on Saturday December 31, 2022 @06:55PM (#34202029)
Tangently related, but working timetables on the London Underground run to 2330, 2345, 2359, but then rather than going to 0000, because the post midnight services (until about 0400) are on the previous date, they then go

2359

2400

2401

And on to 2459, 2500, 2501 etc.

(At least they used to before 24 hour running, not sure about now)

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by nileshtrivedi on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:21PM (#34202198)
23:59, 1:00:00, 1:00:01 would have been better.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:36PM (#34202295)
Personally I prefer SS:MM:HH shrug
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by MerelyMortal on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:40PM (#34203353)
The latter two could be confused with hour:minute:second
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by GauntletWizard on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:41PM (#34203046)
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Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:35PM (#34202291)
I've just added a setting for midnight to be 0 instead of 24, have a look
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by wpearse on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:17PM (#34202912)
I used to work with a delivery route planning system that had 24:00 as midnight on one day, and 00:00 was midnight on the following day — the same “instant” but on two different days.

I forget the reasoning, but I remember it being described to me as both necessary and a reasonably common construct.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by perilunar on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:39PM (#34203341)
24:00 is a real time. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock#Midnight_00:00_a...

One advantage of using 24 instead of 0 is it makes it immediately obvious that this is a 24 hour clock. Otherwise you have to read the 0, see the 23 next to it, and infer that it's 24 hours, which takes a moment if you are not expecting it.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by gus_massa on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:12AM (#34197716)
It would be nice to have a permalink to a version with my customized list of time zones. I imagine it would be useful to send it for recurring meetings with the same set of persons.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by ydant on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:03PM (#34201233)
I tend to use worldtimebuddy.com as a very practical way of representing timezones when scheduling things.

As cool as this pole clock is, it's not as useful to my mind as the more linear representation worldtimebuddy.com uses.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by gus_massa on Sunday January 01, 2023 @12:28PM (#34208434)
I think I used https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ (or a very similar site) a few times, but the clock version looks more nice.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:52PM (#34202402)
This would indeed be great to have... Then it's also easier to adopt the thing for team! Good idea!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by rauschermate on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:17PM (#34203549)
For this exact problem I build this Chrome extension (free) - have a new tab set for the timezones where you have co-workers. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cityzen/hfdldnggnf...
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by tensorturtle on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:13AM (#34197720)
This is great! Now I wish there was a wristwatch (Apple Watch face?) that could do this as well.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by antcas on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:20AM (#34197813)
Slick design. Love that it doesn't try to do a million things. I think this would be really nice as a smartwatch face or an iPhone widget.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by HL33tibCe7 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:51PM (#34199437)
Yes. This is a very “Apple” design (and that is high praise).
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:04PM (#34202488)
Thank you!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:04PM (#34202490)
Thank you!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by throw0101c on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:34AM (#34198016)
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by dhbanes on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:38AM (#34198069)
Or any GMT watch.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:43AM (#34198115)
Wowzers I love these one-hand 'slow' watches! https://svalbard.watch/pages/Svalbard_24-hour_watches.html

I hope I can get Pole Clock on Apple Watch, wish they allowed custom watch faces!

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by FredPret on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:51PM (#34198812)
There are two options - the Solar and World Time faces are 24h
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by amelius on Saturday December 31, 2022 @03:18PM (#34200313)
> Apple Watch, wish they allowed custom watch faces!

Seriously? Apple does not allow this?

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by userbinator on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:36PM (#34201463)
It shouldn't be surprising, that's very typical of Apple.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by zimpenfish on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:56PM (#34201606)
I guess it depends what you mean by "custom watch faces" but I've got 12[1] things that show different variations of clocks and widgets installed on my Watch and the Watch app offers a few more[2].

[1] Activity Digital, Solar Graph, Modular, Infograph, Modular Compact, Liquid Metal, Solar Dial, Unity Lights, Gradient, Pride Woven, World Time, Pride Threads.

[2] https://imgur.com/a/A9u4EYr

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:50PM (#34202389)
All too complex, just want 24h analog :'(
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:49PM (#34202379)
They do not and I've been wanting a 24h analog dial on mine with nothing else for years... Pole Clock's timezone hour hands would be a bonus though!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by matsemann on Saturday December 31, 2022 @06:15PM (#34201717)
Oh, those backward watches brings back memories. My dad used to have a big one in his bar, and as a prank tell customers looking at it that they're perhaps too drunk to get another drink.

He got me one when I moved out, and I've had it ever since. For some time it was actually hard for me to tell time looking at a normal analog clock.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:48PM (#34202375)
Just have a drink and it'll work fine!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by maratc on Sunday January 01, 2023 @05:15AM (#34205173)
Due to relatives scattered around the world, I track the time in several time zones for the last 20 years or so.

Nothing comes close to the convenience of an Apple Watch.

First, you can add custom cities to your Apple Watch, so you can see the time in e.g. Dortmund (which has my relative) as opposed to Frankfurt (which is a big city that happens to define the time zone but has no relatives). With mechanical watches, you are limited to a selection of cities that might or might not be relevant to you.

Second, the DST renders any mechanical watch incorrect for at least half a year. One of my relatives is in Brazil, where they have DST in their summer (Dec-Feb), so mechanical watches are incorrect for almost a year (except for a couple of weeks around the DST shift). Again, Moscow has moved permanently to summer time. Apple Watch has all this covered.

Third, most GMT watches with 24-hour hand have a "night/day" bezel (black-grey aka "Batman", or blue-red aka "Pepsi"), but they all separate 24 hours into a 12-hour period of "day" (6am-6pm) and "night" (6pm-6am). Apple Watch shows the actual daylight and night time at any day of the week (so the "bezel" is split unevenly).

Mechanical watches are good at many things but being able to reliably track several DST-observing timezones is not one of them. In this, nothing even comes close to the convenience of an Apple Watch.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by ruph123 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:59PM (#34199534)
And a good brand for single-hand watches: http://meistersinger.com/
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by asoneth on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:59PM (#34203136)
I may have missed it, but it does not look like Meister Singer makes a version with a 24h dial, is that correct?

I think that would be the main draw of a single hand watch for me.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by RedShift1 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:05PM (#34201245)
I'm liking the Svalbard ones, but can't find a European retailer?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by leipert on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:26PM (#34202229)
https://svalbard.watch/pages/where_to_buy_Svalbard_watches.h...

Has one retailer in Germany and another in Italy.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by asoneth on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:52PM (#34203106)
I like the simplicity and design of the Slow (https://www.slow-watches.com) watches mentioned in the first list you link in your post.

It reminds me of the Botta Design Uno 24: https://www.botta-design.de/en/products/uno-24-plus-titan

I appreciate the clear delineation between "day" and "night" sides of the face, the meaningful position of the date complication, and a hour hand design that makes it possible to see down to ~5m increments.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by LeoPanthera on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:28PM (#34203290)
I like "Yes" watches: https://www.yeswatch.com

They use an LCD backdrop behind the physical hour hand to show exactly when sunrise and sunset is for today, rather than a fixed 6-6 shadow. Really nice idea.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by quickthrower2 on Sunday January 01, 2023 @06:23AM (#34205467)
Someone could create a Fitbit clock to do this too!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by mauskin on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:46AM (#34198146)
You could make it lighter by removing even hour marks, like so https://codepen.io/kirillmyshkin/full/dyRQOda
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:11PM (#34202529)
Oh that's nice and light indeed!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by xwowsersx on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:49AM (#34198179)
Very nice. I've wanted something simple like this. I work with team distributed all over the globe and often end up googling "time in Minsk", for example. This is a really clever way of combining all the times into a single clock.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:07PM (#34202503)
Glad it helps you!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by mixcocam on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:36PM (#34198631)
Basic yet super powerful.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by adg001 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:38PM (#34198652)
Congrats, this is so handy (pun intended)! :-)

Please consider adding a custom watch face to the Coros watches such as the Vertix.

Also consider that there are timezones offset by 30 mins.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by ComputerGuru on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:45PM (#34198739)
Really cool idea.

The Statue of Liberty glyph for NYC is extremely difficult to make out (on mobile, at any rate). I would much prefer NYC. Also not sure why NYC has to be special, I would have thought UTC would the special one.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by codetrotter on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:49PM (#34198785)
Yeah me too struggled a lot to make out that it was the Statue of Liberty
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by HL33tibCe7 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:48PM (#34199407)
+1, just use NYC please
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by gus_massa on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:44PM (#34202350)
I think it's more like showing a cool feature than an actual case where it is super useful.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:55PM (#34202425)
Aye! I had a user request flag emojis for countries, so I popped the statue of liberty in for NYC to show the feature of naming :)
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by diimdeep on Saturday December 31, 2022 @12:51PM (#34198813)
Blur behind menu kills integrated GPU.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:14PM (#34202547)
Killed it just for you <3
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by oliverdunk on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:10PM (#34198998)
Very cool! Similar idea: https://www.teamlab.art/w/clock/
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:14PM (#34202544)
That's the closest I've seen! 2004! Wowza!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by pcrh on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:10PM (#34199003)
So intuitive and simple, it's hard to imagine this representation of time zones hasn't been conceived of before. But perhaps that's the definition of "genius"...
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:07PM (#34202508)
T_T that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by sails on Saturday December 31, 2022 @01:51PM (#34199444)
Minute hand covers the hour hand which seems like it could be improved. I added a country and I couldn't see if it had been added because it was under the minute hand.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by 88stacks on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:09PM (#34199627)
I wish I could have this on my Apple Watch, but Apple does not allow us to make our own watch faces.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:12PM (#34202535)
Same! All I want is this on my Apple Watch. Hey Apple; Call Me?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by a_d on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:10PM (#34199635)
Love this, PascalPixel!

Hope you are well my friend. I smiled at this project and then saw it was made by you — it’s such a beautiful project that only you could have made :).

Great idea and execution.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:20PM (#34199720)
<3
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by impish9208 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:29PM (#34199810)
This is neat. I was wondering if the world map in the background could be rotated so that the city/timezone hands could (roughly) point to their respective locations. For instance, if you had the NYC and LAX hands, then the North American continent could be positioned between them with the former to the right and the latter to the left.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:01PM (#34202473)
It should be doing this at the moment unless there is some bug :(
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by davchana on Saturday December 31, 2022 @02:53PM (#34200066)
Bug: All other cities use the Phrase I type in the box. I.E.for NYC, If I type JFK, it shows JFK on its hour hand. But the local time always shows LOS for me even if I type SFO. It should show SFO, as typed.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:17PM (#34202570)
I've just removed the name on the local time hour hand entirely
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by russellbeattie on Saturday December 31, 2022 @03:02PM (#34200163)
My OCD can't take the alignment of the second hand to the numbers.

The "bottom half" should be dynamic based on current sunrise/sunset data.

Better yet, let me decide my own waking hours and put that bit on the bottom.

Might as well make the favicon dynamic as well.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:16PM (#34202561)
Sorry for giving you the jitters... :( I like the favicon idea I might do that!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by layer8 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @03:04PM (#34200189)
Three suggestions:

- Let users switch the primary time zone by clicking/tapping on an hour hand.

- Display the true day/night line for the current time zone.

- Visualize the different dates (angle between the date line and 24 hours). Maybe color the hour hands differently when he date differs.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by hakcermani on Saturday December 31, 2022 @04:01PM (#34200698)
Congratulations on this and pretty cool design. I just got the map:clock for ios which shows a map with different city times. One feature in that is to be able to do what if .. a slider to modify the times and see the time at different locations. A slider or rotary dial to change the times would be a good feature for planning. Bookmarked ur clock !

Feature requests if i may pls ! 1) Adjust the time with a slider or dial 2) Put the second hand outside the dial 3) Same for min hand or show hide the min hand -Merci!

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:51PM (#34202400)
Might do all these things!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by IIAOPSW on Saturday December 31, 2022 @04:24PM (#34200919)
I've learned far to often that the international date line is not just tinder for expats. Can you put something to indicate the date on the timezones. Something just like your day/night indicator which tells me that on one side of the line is December 31 2022 and on the other side is January 1 2023.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:47PM (#34202368)
That's a good idea, I guess for now you're forced to add Tonga as a makeshift indicator! It's Tonga time!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by abdullahkhalids on Saturday December 31, 2022 @04:58PM (#34201192)
How can I tell at a glance which timezones have the same date, and which ones are a day behind or ahead?

For instance, I can't tell if Tokyo has the same date as NYC or not.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by oars on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:39PM (#34201491)
The clock shows 24 hours, and we know that NYC always behind Tokyo; you can just tell this from the arms of the clock.

If it's 7:30am now for Tokyo and NYC is showing 5:30pm, we know that Tokyo is obviously a day ahead.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by abdullahkhalids on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:31PM (#34202268)
Of course, I can calculate. I am not interested in calculating. I am interested in the display just telling me.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:59PM (#34202454)
The moment the date passed is midnight, the bottom of the clock, using your local hour hand it should be intuitive enough to see which timezones have passed that point, without calculation
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by bondolo on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:15PM (#34201311)
I like it and am interested to see how this evolves. I would love it to replace the simple clock on my iPhone screen.

For my own purposes I would like to see accurate day/night line that moves with the map.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:54PM (#34202412)
Me too! Issue is that different longitudes have different sunrise/sunset times, so I went with an arbitrary cut down the middle to get a rough idea of how people in other timezones are feeling right now (tired, close to dark, etc)
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by perilunar on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:54PM (#34203421)
Sunrise/sunset times do vary with longitude (depending on how close you are to the centre of the timezone you 'should' be in, and also summer time), but the biggest variation is with latitude. Especially near the solstices like now.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by ajb on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:18PM (#34201341)
Nice.

One thing that would be handy would be to encode the settings in the URL. Then people can share a link to this with others who need the same set of time zones (eg, colleagues) and have the time zones already be set up.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by userbinator on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:43PM (#34201525)
Before visiting the site, I thought this was a physical device.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by fildon on Saturday December 31, 2022 @05:44PM (#34201531)
Huh, I built a 24 hour clock as part of this mini project:

https://fildon.me/time-after-time/

Notably, after the initial page load I don't use any JS to update the hand positions. It's entirely static SVG elements.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by myself248 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @06:44PM (#34201950)
Oooooooooo, sweep second hands.

Broadcast radio people are _obsessed_ with sweep second hands, since it's how they all learned to time their announcements to end right as the next program segment begins.

If you sold a cheap tablet that did nothing but that, and synced to NTP with a programmable display offset (some stations run 5 seconds ahead of real time to deal with encoder delay, for instance), station managers would beat a path to your door.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:42PM (#34202341)
Love the face that includes 7 days! Very minimalistic!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by olonn on Saturday December 31, 2022 @06:38PM (#34201902)
you ever catch a flight from LAX to NEW?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:15PM (#34202553)
You can rename them to 'GAH!' and ':)' in the Settings! Happy flying!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by bombolo on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:18PM (#34202176)
But not all countries' local time differs from UTC by multiples of 60 minutes. See Iran.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by tommica on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:30PM (#34202261)
Really cool - would love to move the Tokyo time and see the other hands move in accordance, to see what 15 there is in my place
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by PascalPixel on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:41PM (#34202327)
That's a great idea! I'll add that tomorrow!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by mastazi on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:40PM (#34202326)
I love the concept, dense information in a relatively small area.

I would love if it had markings for minutes/seconds.

With the 12 hour clock each hour marking corresponds to an integer amount of minutes or seconds (e.g. the marking "1" is 5 seconds/minutes, "2" is 10 seconds/minutes etc)

But with a 24 hours one, this happens only every 2 hours ("13" is halfway between 2 and 3 seconds/minutes, "14" is 5 seconds/minutes) so I'm finding it hard to read minutes and seconds.

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by aszen on Saturday December 31, 2022 @07:46PM (#34202367)
Instead of dividing by two equal halves day and night, make this dependent on sunrise and sunset of the location, would be helpful to know at a glance the actual day hours and night hours
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by techdragon on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:29PM (#34202639)
I’d love that this too. It’s one of the little details I’ve gone to appreciate about my Apple Watch, how all the day night features (at least seem to, I’ve not exhaustively debugged it) use correct day, night, twilight, etc, based on my current location.
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by perilunar on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:22PM (#34203256)
I built a clock that does just that. It also shows twilight times and the position and phase of the moon:

https://sunclock.net/

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by paulcapewell on Sunday January 01, 2023 @07:42AM (#34205855)
This is stunning. Thanks!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by ernsheong on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:29PM (#34202981)
If you turn on midnight on top, then the minute hand becomes inverted and counter intuitive, need to fix?
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by rauschermate on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:20PM (#34203569)
Very nice work! Couple months ago I built a Chrome extension solving the same problem but little bit differently. New tab displays the timezones + a nice picture and weather of the cities you choose.

It's completely free if anyone is interested: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cityzen/hfdldnggnf...

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by masswerk on Sunday January 01, 2023 @12:01AM (#34203754)
Here's my helpful little time thingy (not a live clock, but let's you set arbitrary dates): https://www.masswerk.at/time/convert/
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by city41 on Saturday December 31, 2022 @11:45PM (#34203690)
This is cool. Possibly move the black hands to the back so they don't obscure timezones?

https://i.imgur.com/vjWs8mr.png

Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by crtasm on Sunday January 01, 2023 @10:31AM (#34207066)
This would be useful for me if I could hide the minute and second hands. Nice work!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by cryptonector on Sunday January 01, 2023 @04:23PM (#34211081)
This is wonderful!

Suggestion:

  - have an option to pick one TZ to
    be at the "12 o'clock" position
    (click on the hour hand of a TZ
    to rotate the whole clock so that
    TZ is a the top)
  
  - then a TZ is selected, show time
    deltas on the other TZs' hour hands
  
  - allow arbitrary rotations so one
    can place any particular hour at
    the "12 o'clock" position
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by sourcecodeplz on Monday January 02, 2023 @04:00AM (#34215871)
I really really like this. Congrats!
Re:Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple tim... by austinnguyen00 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @02:19PM (#34236543)
Well done. I think it would be a bit better if I could adjust my default time zone myself in the setting