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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by avalys on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:16PM (#32018776)
Wow, what a fun statistic! Even if it's pushing the common definition of "sunlight" quite a bit.

Also makes me wonder what fraction of the world population is awake at a given time, and what that fraction looks like plotted against 24 hours of the day.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by madcaptenor on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:40PM (#32019051)
https://blog.cyberclip.com/world-population-by-time-zone has a plot of population by time zone; I can't find numbers.

Some quick guesses:

- the most people are awake at around 14:00 UTC. That's 23:00 in Japan (the easternmost big population, at UTC+9 - sorry eastern Australia!) and 6:00 PST/7:00 PDT; most people who would be sleeping are in the Pacific.

- the most people are asleep at about 22:00 UTC - that's 23:00/00:00 in Western Europe (depending on the season) and 06:00 in China, so you get those two big population centers (and India in between them) sleeping.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by andai on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:07PM (#32021356)
In Internet Census 2012, there's an animated gif of planet earth's day/night cycle as measured by which IP addresses respond to ping:

http://census2012.sourceforge.net/images/geovideo_lowres.gif

Source: http://census2012.sourceforge.net/paper.html

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by pcrh on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:35AM (#32025782)
That's interesting. You can see a difference between N and S hemispheres on the same longitude, e.g. North East USA vs Peru and Japan vs East Australia.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by cft on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:18PM (#32018798)
A practical issue- if you have a world-distributed workforce or an international news agency, what's the best geographical location for the headquarters?
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by spiralx on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:46PM (#32019144)
London has long benefitted from its position allowing its working day overlapping everywhere from the US West coast to Japan, even if barely at those extremes. Most of the world's population lies between UTC-5 and UTC+5 I believe.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by yorwba on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:39PM (#32020519)
Most of the world's population lives inside the Valeriepieris circle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriepieris_circle which is covered by the time zones UTC+5 through UTC+8.

So if you want to be as close as possible to as many people as possible, somewhere in Myanmar would be a better choice than London.

Of course the calculus changes if you also consider how much money each of these people has access to.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by raverbashing on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:09AM (#32025087)
Yes, you are not necessarily interested in the population barycenter, but more on the money barycenter

That changes the equation

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by Cthulhu_ on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:10AM (#32024669)
It's probably one reason why Singapore is a popular location for multinationals to have an office.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by bbarnett on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:48PM (#32022095)
Most means "almost all". Your link says about 50%.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by hxtk on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:37AM (#32023238)
I've certainly seen "most" used to mean "almost all", and it appears as though you're feeling a little annoyed to see it used that way because you consider it misleading.

I've also frequently seen "most" used to mean "a majority", though, in which case GP's use of the term is precisely consistent with the facts in their source.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by richardw on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:30AM (#32023179)
Interesting. I think differently but seems there are multiple interpretations. Of course we feel most people would agree with our version ;)

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/55920/is-most-eq...

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by labster on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:24AM (#32023136)
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/most

“More than half of” is one of the definitions

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by taneq on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:10AM (#32024671)
Looks like most people disagree. ;)
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by morepork on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:18PM (#32020289)
Given India is UTC+5.5 and China is UTC+8, plus many other large countries are outside that range (Indonesia, Japan, Bangladesh, Mexico, Phillipines) I think you need to stretch it a bit
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by morepork on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:31PM (#32020439)
Given OP's 10 hour range, UTC+0 to UTC+10 is almost certainly going to be the 10 hour range that includes the most people. It includes all of Asia, Europe and Africa, and excludes both the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by TheCoelacanth on Thursday July 07, 2022 @10:59PM (#32022529)
I think it has to be.

UTC+8 is all of China and UTC+5.5 is all of India, and in between are high population countries like Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, so UTC+5.5 to UTC+8 has to be included.

UTC+11 to UTC-8.5 is the Pacific Ocean and has maybe 10 million people total, while UTC+0 has >100 million in UK, Portugal and part of Western Africa so UTC+0 must be part of the range.

That only leaves the choice between UTC-1/2 and UTC+9/10. UTC-1 and UTC-2 have under a million with only a few small islands while UTC+10 has most of Papua New Guinea with 6 million.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by ascar on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:36PM (#32020477)
It also excludes the west coast. -7 to +9 goes from West Coast to Japan and Indonesia, placing UTC+1 (CET e.g. Berlin) in the middle.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by decremental on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:04PM (#32020135)
Is that "most of the world's population" in the same sense as "Mohammed is the most common name?"
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by s1artibartfast on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:12PM (#32020873)
Well, is it?
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by maccard on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:32AM (#32024808)
Seconding the UK. I live in Edinburgh (Scotland) and I can meet with people from west coast US as far as China with very minor adjustments to my working day. I have natural half day overlaps with east coast US, and most of my day overlaps with major outsourcing locations (except the phillipines, but can be managed with a 1 hour adjustment)
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by jmmcd on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:59AM (#32025991)
Other people are saying the UK, but if you want the same time-zone plus EU laws/customs/currency, you can choose Ireland.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by lbotos on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:50PM (#32019208)
What are you optimizing for? Once you clarify that your answer will be clear.

- Access to capital? - close to "action"? - Airport hub city?

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by cft on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:52PM (#32019237)
Overlapping business hours
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by cupofpython on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:23PM (#32018844)
Are we channeling through internet cabling or magical straight lines?
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by WJW on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:46PM (#32019907)
Does this actually matter? Internet cabling vs magical straight lines would amount to less than 1 second difference, so emails/slack/discord/IRC/etc (basically anything except video chat) would barely notice.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by mr_toad on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:24PM (#32020361)
> magical straight lines

Sufficiently advanced technology

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/mar/19/neutrin...

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by thfuran on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:45PM (#32019127)
Wherever is most legally favorable from the perspective of liability and taxes, probably.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by beebeepka on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:23PM (#32018854)
The core
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by dylan604 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:47PM (#32020612)
The pressure to be successul must be intense there though
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by bregma on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:48AM (#32025397)
There is a large mantle of responsibility.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by corrral on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:56PM (#32018564)
Seems related to the fact that you can draw a surprisingly-small circle over part of Asia and have more people inside the circle, than out. Human geography is very uneven.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by ninju on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:19PM (#32018803)
I believe you are referring to the Valeriepieris circle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriepieris_circle#/media/Fi...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriepieris_circle

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by corrral on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:29PM (#32018916)
Yep, that's the one. Ballpark 7% of the Earth's surface, or 15% of the land-surface area (guesstimate based on the whole circle being about 22% of the land surface area—but much of the circle is over water). Over 50% of the population.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by Beldin on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:08AM (#32024658)
One of the claims of the circle was that over half of it was water. So then your guesstimate can be lowered to less than 11% of land surface area.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by amelius on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:31PM (#32019741)
Probably more related to the fact that if you look at the globe from above the Pacific, you see mostly water:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Globe_-_Pacific_Ocea...

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by Zenst on Friday July 08, 2022 @03:49AM (#32024048)
Handy to know if ever challanged to draw a picture of earth as seen from space.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by ninefathom on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:42PM (#32036834)
Precisely - more than anything else, this article reminded me just how much of our planet is covered by the Pacific Ocean.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by BbzzbB on Friday July 08, 2022 @04:58PM (#32026977)
Another factoid in this vein: more than half of Canada's population lives South of the USA's Northern border.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:09PM (#32029024)
I think you should specify the northern border of the contiguous states. Otherwise, I bet 99% of Canada’s population lives south of Alaska northern border.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by BbzzbB on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:20PM (#32029181)
I hesitated to be more specific, but figured (probably wrongly so, should always be explicit when stating things like this) that it's implicitly obvious it's about the ~49th parallel border. In fact you can draw the line well below that border[0].

Another way to put it is that half of Canadian's population lives ~between Toronto and Montréal.

0: https://i1.wp.com/metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/c...

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Friday July 08, 2022 @08:06PM (#32029757)
Really cool map!

Based on the map, another way to put it, is:

Most Canadians live south of Seattle.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by mc32 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:19PM (#32018805)
Lots of things on Earth are unevenly distributed. Mineral deposits, water, fertile land, mild climates…
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by bigiain on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:45PM (#32021176)
> Lots of things on Earth are unevenly distributed. Mineral deposits, water, fertile land, mild climates…

... the future.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by firebaze on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:39PM (#32019040)
Quite probably only if we're ignoring the z-axis (depth), at least when talking over minerals. I think it will be a game-changer if a few km of rock won't be a hindrance anymore. If that ever comes, that is.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by mc32 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:59PM (#32019327)
Some elements are kind of well distributed but not others: gold for example, or minerals or hydrocarbons, or even wind.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by mr_toad on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:35PM (#32020471)
There’s a huge amount of gold (and other stuff) dissolved in seawater. Something like 20 million tons of it. The trouble is that it’s too evenly distributed.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/gold-ocean-sea-hoax-sc...

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by joebob42 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:21PM (#32021884)
> elements

> Wind

I know you know and this is just stupid pedantry but it made me cackle

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by paxys on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:51PM (#32019961)
Sure, but there's still a big difference between 50% and 99%. In this case it wasn't just about population, most landmass was also covered.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by corrral on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:55PM (#32020010)
Well, right, it's the intuition/viewpoint that takes it to "huh, neat and a little surprising, but believable" rather than "no fucking way!" that's similar, I'd say. If you're familiar with one of these (or other, similar) bits of trivia, the other one's probably more believable on your first encounter with it, because you've already been exposed to the underlying insight that makes it possible.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by spiralx on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:49PM (#32019197)
Doesn't 80% of the world's population live within 100km of the sea as well. And I'd guess most of the remainder live close to major rivers and lakes.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by eyelidlessness on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:25AM (#32023615)
One might be advised not to go chasing waterfalls, but those are also typically close to the same rivers and lakes.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by quickthrower2 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:56PM (#32019282)
Makes sense. Rivers are the original infra.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by hanoz on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:58PM (#32019313)
Are you proposing The Spiralx Donut?
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by vlovich123 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:52PM (#32021243)
Not to be "that guy", but claiming that 4:15am in California (11:15 UTC) is daylight is really stretching it, at least going by this morning. Also sunrise here is ~5:50 AM. Even for a 7am meeting I typically need lights on in my office until partway through. The room has both eastern and southern exposure in the south-east corner (my desk is literally by the windows).
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by schoen on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:13PM (#32021398)
The article points out that it will be astronomical twilight, which most people aren't able to notice visually:

> This is especially true for those who reside on the outermost edge of the twilight zones, within the darkest twilight phase called astronomical twilight. Here, the Sun is 12-18 degrees below the horizon. At that angle, the indirect sunlight becomes so thin that it is usually indiscernible to the naked eye.

The article suggests 83% to 90% (not 99%) of people will find it to be light out (daylight or civil twilight) ... not including Californians.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by xattt on Thursday July 07, 2022 @10:53PM (#32022486)
In the interest of cranking up the pedant-o-matic machine:

(1) If astronomical twilight and other indirect sunlight counts, then moonlight counts doubly so!

(2) If indirect and thus spatially separated sunlight counts, then temporally removed sunlight, in the form of airglow, should count as well!

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by Zenst on Friday July 08, 2022 @03:48AM (#32024037)
(3) Starlink will also become a factor or heck, any of the planets visable in the sky as well.

Given that, the caviet of direct and indirect sunlight is a huge factor not quantified.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by LanceH on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:28PM (#32022736)
Yes, being "in sunlight" and seeing reflected light from the sun are two different things.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by JamesUtah07 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:42PM (#32022045)
Sunrise means that the sun is fully above the horizon. Dusk is when the sun light is starting to appear but the sun is still below the horizon. So yea I think the original 99% is experiencing daylight is from from accurate but almost everyone will be experiencing sunlight… technically.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by Jedd on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:31PM (#32021055)
It's not clear to me why the same isn't true for the 7th of June - ie, 17 days the other side of the solstice (for fuzzy values of solstice, depending where you're standing, etc).
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by divbzero on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:45PM (#32022848)
This puzzled me too but I don’t think it’s quite symmetric? Try taking a non-spherical object as a model “Earth” — I used my earphones case — then tilt it at a fixed angle and maneuver it around a “Sun” before and after the solstice. I think you’ll find that before and after are not quite symmetric and different corners of your object are angled towards the “Sun”. (Please correct me if I’m wrong on this I still haven’t fully convinced myself.)
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by plasticchris on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:48PM (#32018479)
Australia has less than 1% of the world population? Edit: yep, around 0.3%
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by yesenadam on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:59PM (#32021293)
A few years ago I wanted to make my movie-watching more representative of relative populations of countries, so I made this list. Most strikingly, about 4 movies in each 100 I watch should be from USA.

Percentage of world population: China 18.5 - India 17.7 - USA 4.25 - Indonesia 3.5 - Pakistan 2.8 - Brazil 2.7 - Nigeria 2.6 - Bangladesh 2.1 - Russia 1.9 - Mexico 1.65 - Japan 1.6 - Ethiopia 1.5 - Philippines 1.4 - Egypt 1.3 - Vietnam 1.25 - DR Congo 1 - Turkey 1 - Iran 1 - Germany 1 - Thailand 0.9 - UK 0.9 - France 0.8 - Italy 0.8 - Tanzania 0.8 - South Africa 0.8 - Myanmar 0.7 - Kenya, South Korea, Colombia 0.6 - Spain, Uganda, Argentina, Algeria, Sudan, Ukraine 0.6 - Iraq, Afghanistan, Poland, Canada, Morocco, Saudi Arabia 0.5

It would be fascinating to ask people around the world - "What percentage of the world's population lives in your country?"

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by keithnz on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:33PM (#32021543)
Interestingly asking wolfram alpha to calculate it, you get a cool little graph showing a history.... https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=population+of+new+zeala...
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by Izikiel43 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:50PM (#32018496)
Yes.

7 billion people => 7000 Million.

1% of that, 70 Million.

Population of australia, 25.7 Million people. So not only less than 1%, less than 0.5%

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by avalys on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:12PM (#32018729)
Holy crap, Australia has approximately the same population as New York City. That's nearly an order of magnitude less than I would have guessed. I had no idea!
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by tempestn on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:35PM (#32018993)
An order of magnitude higher and it'd be of similar magnitude to the entire USA.

I tend to think of Australia as pretty similar (if literally polar opposite) to Canada. Similar population and standard of living on a similarly large but largely inhospitable landmass.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by spiralx on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:02PM (#32019362)
Australia has almost everything wrong you can think of climate-wise: cold Antarctic currents hitting the west coast causing dry winds with little moisture, on the east coast there's a narrow strip between the coast and the long N-S mountains that gets moisture, but even then the mountains are barely high enough to trap winds and cause rainfall. The very north gets monsoons, the inland is a baking desert and only the very south is temperate.

If you want an idea of scale, there's a single cattle farm in Australia operated by less than a dozen people that is larger than Texas.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by eesmith on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:17PM (#32019567)
Anna Creek is 23,677 km2 according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Creek_Station and 15,746 square kilometres according to https://www.williamscattlecompany.com.au/anna-creek .

Texas is rather larger than Anna Creek, at 676,587 km2 of land according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas .

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by cecilpl2 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:49PM (#32019204)
Australia is basically Hot Canada.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by joveian on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:15AM (#32023542)
Except that Canada is just cold while Australia has the whole evolutionary arms race thing going on.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by 3pt14159 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:57PM (#32019300)
Australia: Our brother to the hot south with more sex appeal and far less marriage material.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by adra on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:14PM (#32020242)
I was just quoted a stat that said boomer retirees have sex way more frequently than any of their younger cohorts. So weird and depressing if true.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by codeyperson on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:51PM (#32021236)
Maybe single people are less likely to retire
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by BurningFrog on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:25PM (#32020372)
Travelling there it felt like Big California.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by Sharlin on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:47PM (#32019163)
To a good approximation Australia is a desert surrounded by a narrow, narrow strip of livable land. It would be pretty remarkable if it had a population close to that of the US.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by SamBam on Friday July 08, 2022 @10:15PM (#32030709)
An order of magnitude! That would be imagining that Australia has >200 million people. Given that the US has a little more than 300 million, well... No, they aren't comparable.

Australia by an large is an inhospitable island with only a few pockets of population.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by CodeSgt on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:22PM (#32018834)
I'm pretty sure NYC has a population of like 7 or 8 million, about a third of Australias.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by tempestn on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:32PM (#32018957)
Depends where you draw the line. The 5 boroughs alone is about 8M, but the broader metropolitan area is something like 20. (And even beyond that it's still pretty densely populated compared to most places.)
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by hackernewds on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:40PM (#32019055)
The broader metropolitan is not usually what people consider as NYC. New York state maybe
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by Dylan16807 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:37PM (#32020494)
The broader area is more like that little corner of the state plus half of New Jersey.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by prpl on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:34PM (#32018971)
New York MSA is 20M, CSA is 23M
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by quickthrower2 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:59PM (#32019316)
NYC = NSW approx then.

Lol and I think Sydney is getting “too busy”

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by dylan604 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:49PM (#32020638)
Australia also happens to have the seemingly same amount of useable land space as NYC.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by greenpeas on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:57PM (#32018567)
Less than two "australias" away from 8 billion now. https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by goatlover on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:44PM (#32027655)
Closer to 8 billion now. 7.753 according to google.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by divbzero on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:33PM (#32022772)
Other comments have already mentioned the Valeriepieris circle [1] ~4,000 km in radius which contains over half the world’s population. Another relevant phenomenon is Earth’s land and water hemispheres [2].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriepieris_circle

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_and_water_hemispheres

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by bombcar on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:59PM (#32018599)
Technically correct - the best kind of correct.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by chadlavi on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:00PM (#32018607)
I'm gonna requisition you an upvote
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by hadlock on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:55PM (#32022920)
timeanddate.com has a great weather viewer. Just wanted to say that. wunderground.com has turned into an awful mess since IBM bought it, did a poor web 2.0 treatment on it, and now I think accuweather (who effectively has a monopoly on weather data) bought them? weather.com is full of ads, as is any other weathre website these days. for whatever reason.

timeanddate.com has a clean, fast interface, and if you don't like ads they have an ad-free option

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by lstodd on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:25AM (#32023140)
ventusky.com is nice
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by cardamomo on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:57PM (#32020736)
Now I want to know on what date and time the lowest percent of the world's population will be in sunlight.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by FooHentai on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:08PM (#32020829)
6 months and 12 hours later (or earlier) would be my rough guess.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by jjtheblunt on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:18PM (#32020937)
...and if it is predictably half a year away?
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by quakeguy on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:55PM (#32019271)
Combine this data with the newly detected ozon-hole above the tropics.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/ozone-hole-found-over-tropics-1538...

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by rufus_foreman on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:02PM (#32018627)
Duplicate of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32014622
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by h2odragon on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:08PM (#32018691)
When does the mega sunspot or whatever hafta fire a large mass ejection at us, and how strong would it have to be, to cook most of humanity?
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by ben_w on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:25PM (#32018877)
To cook us, it would have to be stronger than is actually possible given the mass, distance, and age of the sun.

To cook our power grid, small enough to be surprisingly common: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_storms

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by MacsHeadroom on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:29PM (#32018912)
The sun fires multiple ejections a day big enough to cook us. They just all miss.

It would be like you stepping outside and shooting a bullet in a random direction a few times a day, with Earth being a golf ball miles away.

The golf ball would be destroyed by a bullet. But your odds of hitting it are very low.

Of course, over time the odds become an inevitability.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by helloworld11 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:14PM (#32021409)
Your metaphor is totally off. For one thing, even the biggest CMEs aren't powerful enough to literally cook us. Partly because of solar size, distance and composition, and partly because our Earth has its own protections via the atmosphere, our robust electromagnetic field and a few atmospheric factors. Secondly, random bullets fired off in random directions remain as small dense objects. That metaphor works better for asteroids randomly bounding around the solar system. CMEs on the other hand expand and spread to pretty huge sizes as they fly outward into the Solar System. This makes them much more likely to arrive.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by AQuantized on Thursday July 07, 2022 @07:06PM (#32020818)
Why do people just make up things like this? Did you hear it somewhere and never research it?
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by quickthrower2 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:00PM (#32019339)
Why is this downvoted? Is it wrong? I do like it as an explanation!
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by davidcuddeback on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:12PM (#32019500)
Yeah, it's wrong. There isn't even a single CME strong enough to cause aurora every day, let alone strong enough to cook us, and let alone multiple times per day.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by nonameiguess on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:15PM (#32019541)
It is wrong. During the peak of the solar activity cycle, the sun produces about 3 coronal mass ejections a day. During the bottom of the cycle, though, it only produces one about once every 5 days. They do sometimes hit the Earth, too. The largest known was the Carrington Event in 1859, which started some of the US telegraph network on fire. There was one in 1989 as well.

I don't know that there has ever been a CME strong enough to cook all animals on the side of Earth facing the sun, though. The sun is pretty far away and Earth has a nice magnetosphere that is one of the reasons life exists in the first place. It protects us from stuff like this.

Incidentally, a CME cooking the entire Earth was the plot of a pretty terrible Nic Cage movie called Knowing a decade or so back.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by hanoz on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:44PM (#32019887)
I'm not sure about the cooking power but in terms of the scale of things, if the earth were a golf ball, a 2000km wide coronal mass ejection would indeed be like shooting a bullet in a random direction at a golf ball half a kilometer away.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by marcofatica on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:37PM (#32019016)
Can't wait
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by diedyesterday on Sunday July 10, 2022 @09:07PM (#32051052)
The basic reason is that the Pacific ocean is so big that it almost covers a full hemisphere.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by NGC404 on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:35AM (#32023221)
<irony with a whiff of doom> Perfect timing for an X1000 solar flare.

"The old Axolotl" - Jacek Dukaj

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by perryizgr8 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @10:28PM (#32022343)
> 7.7 billion people—roughly 99%

I hadn't realized we were closed to 8B than 7B now.

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by ComputerCat on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:28PM (#32019695)
Growing up in a household where we'd be constantly reminded of the longest day of the year and then have summer vacation reminders of "the days are getting shorter now" I'm not sure how I feel about this statistic...
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by femto on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:26AM (#32024768)
A proxy for: the Pacific Ocean is really big.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by s3ctor8 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:02PM (#32020122)
This is interesting, but why is it written so strangely? The overuse of bold text is grating too.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by skilled on Thursday July 07, 2022 @03:55PM (#32018550)
> Norway

> Sunlight

pick one

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by speedgoose on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:20PM (#32018813)
Norway is very sunny in summer. You can see the midnight sun in the north but even in the south it’s enough light to be outside all the time around June.

In the extreme north it’s worse: “ In Svalbard, Norway, the northernmost inhabited region of Europe, there is no sunset from approximately 19 April to 23 August.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_sun

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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by skilled on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:31PM (#32018944)
Well, I clearly live in Norway having given that example. It was a joke about the current weather situation in North (but not extreme North) as it is one of the more timid Summers in recent years.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by efrecon on Friday July 08, 2022 @03:26AM (#32023878)
(Sweden here). In those times of climate change, I find having a timid summer reassuring. I know this isn't rational at all, but it gives me a tiny bit of hope.
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Re:July 8 99% of the world’s population in sunlight simultan... by antihipocrat on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:10PM (#32018712)
In summer you can only pick both options.
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