Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by sunaurus on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:54AM
(#49510543)
I think that's the main reason why Omarchy gets talked about so much.
In large parts of the internet, open bigotry is thankfully still socially unacceptable. But when bigotry is wrapped up in a software project like this, it gives people posting/upvoting/sharing a level of plausible deniability.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by hagbard_c on Monday August 31, 2026 @01:09PM
(#49512143)
...because everyone I do not agree with is a Nazi? Grow up, child, discover the world and notice it is full of people who think different thoughts from you.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by dotmariusz on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @08:28AM
(#49521052)
the "different thoughts" in question are that certain groups of people are animals and should be imprisoned or ethnically cleansed, so yeah, that's firmly in nazi territory.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by acdha on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @08:47AM
(#49521254)
Here’s an exact quote:
> When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them. This isn't hard, it isn't cruel. It's the basic logic of self-preservation.
Here’s another, referring to the roughly ⅔ of London residents who aren’t white:
> London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits. In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by lampeli on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:55AM
(#49510550)
hn crowd has always been favorable to trump because at the end of the day they want lower taxes, but i think a few other ideas have been smuggled along with that
(because you always have to explain the joke on this site, everyone was warned about these fascists before and during their rise to power, and this site supports them because the obvious reason https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00146-026-02862-9)
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by optimisticedits on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:58AM
(#49510589)
Do people really think DHH is a white supremacist? I'd love to see a shred of supporting evidence that amounts to more than a disagreement about rapid immigration, integration, and cultural identity.
Didn't John Cleese already explain the difference between a culturalist and a racist?
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by hagbard_c on Monday August 31, 2026 @01:13PM
(#49512184)
Clear may be a racist or he may not be. His speaking out against cultural practices has no bearing on whether he is or isn't and neither you nor I are any the wiser on whether Cleese is a racist or not and it isn't even relevant in the context of his stance on cultural differences and preferences.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by __MatrixMan__ on Monday August 31, 2026 @07:31PM
(#49516097)
I don't find it too surprising. It's an investment in division.
If they actually cared about investing in the ecosystem (and not dividing it), they'd be investing in something besides a ricer project. No shade against ricers, but it's not exactly QubesOS or NixOS or Silveblue or Talos, not exactly pushing the envelope in any direction besides "pretty". DHH may have great opinions about Linux for all I know, but I just don't see how you justify millions of dollars for really good opinions--especially because his other opinions are widely regarded as especially bad.
It's the same playbook that governed US foreign policy in the 70's (consider Chile for example):
- identify your remote enemies
- identify their local enemies
- empower the second group
- regime change, and now the new regime owes you a favor
The regime they're looking to change is that most tech folk don't tolerate white supremacists.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by surgical_fire on Monday August 31, 2026 @04:03PM
(#49514248)
Yes is the only valid answer. The reason is that there's nothing remarkable about Omarchy for it to deserve a fraction of the hype it gets.
Even calling Omarchy a distro seems to be a stretch. The best description I're read is that it is a Hyprland setup for Arch. As far as what a Linux distro can be, this is pretty mediocre. The sort of thing that would get an HN thread, see minor traction, and take the backseat.
But, quite a lot of people seem interested in hyping it. I suspect the reason is just because the dude behind it is not shy about being an ethnonationalist, "great replacement theory" asshole, etc.
Quite a few people here are very fond of those talking points. Thinking about brown people being ethnically cleansed makes them all tingly inside. So, they really want to talk about Omarchy as a proxy.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by soundnote on Saturday September 05, 2026 @06:43PM
(#49581442)
They ship a custom kernel, have their own packaging servers, ship their own installer, an installable ISO, and ship a bunch of custom UI. That's a distro, all right. Not a foundational one a la Debian or Arch, but that's never been a requirement seeing how things like Ubuntu, Cachy etc. exist and are called distros without issue.
Omarchy started as a pile of dotfiles a year ago. It isn't that anymore, and DHH's intended direction is towards a fully independent foundation distro.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by 312ag16 on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:41AM
(#49510358)
There is this movie "Mickey Blue Eyes" where Hugh Grant play an auctioneer whose girlfriend is the daughter of a mafia member.
The boss of the mafia org then forces the auctioneer to offer worthless paintings and forces various people to bid high. The paintings are just required so that something exchanges hands.
This is much of the software industry in a nutshell, except that no coercion is required. Just something needs to exchange hands.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by ajmurmann on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:57AM
(#49510579)
The mafia needs money to change hands to launder it. What money is being laundered in software? Do you think anyone in the ecosystem is sitting on piles of dirty money?
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by nerdix on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:59AM
(#49510594)
It raises the question: what is a distro since many distros are customizations of other distros. What makes Ubuntu a distro and not just a customization of Debian?
The video above is in inline with my opinion. If you ship an ISO (so users can install your distro directly without installing another distro first) and have control over the packages then you are a distro. Apparently, Omarchy has its own ISO and it's own mirror of the arch package repo so it is a distro by that definition.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by TiredOfLife on Monday August 31, 2026 @12:33PM
(#49511690)
Steamos is a mirrored snapshot of arch (like omarchy) + bash and python scripts (like omarchy) + their own shell (steam running on top of gamescope for steamos and a custom quickshell based one running on top of hyprland for omarchy) + modified upstream kernel (both steamos and omarchy)
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by roryirvine on Monday August 31, 2026 @12:37PM
(#49511730)
That's... not true.
At the time Ubuntu started, Debian's old installer (boot-floppies) was legendary for its unfriendliness, and the new all-singing, all-dancing replacement was a mammoth endeavour and a long way off completion. Ubuntu provided a simple, friendly installer that covered only the limited set of the most common use cases, but was a dramatic improvement for new users.
They also employed a bunch of Debian developers, and gave them space to continue their work for Debian. It wasn't all smooth sailing, but Debian was stronger as a result of their contributions right from the very start.
Now, maybe Omarchy are providing a similarly major contribution to Arch - but, if they are, they've kept quiet about it so far.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by mirzap on Monday August 31, 2026 @11:03AM
(#49510639)
Hyperland being funded for 3 years benefits all distros and users that rely on it. The same goes for Quickshell. And my guess is that this is only the beginning. They will support any project that Omarchy is built on. They even reached out to AUR maintainers to support them financially and build better, more stable infrastructure for any distro that depends on AUR, but they refused.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by hagbard_c on Monday August 31, 2026 @01:03PM
(#49512060)
Controversial because of... what? Personal politics? Project choices? If the former, grow up and accept that the time of slavishly following the narrative is coming to an end, that free speech means people are free to voice their own thoughts and that you not agreeing is interesting only to you. If the latter, yes, I understand that his rather fanboyish approach to generative models is controversial and only time will tell whether he is right to be so upbeat. Listening to the 5+ hour interview he did with Lex Friedman makes it clear he thinks the die is cast and generative models are the way to go for now.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jakelazaroff on Monday August 31, 2026 @01:18PM
(#49512257)
> If the former, grow up and accept that the time of slavishly following the narrative is coming to an end, that free speech means people are free to voice their own thoughts and that you not agreeing is interesting only to you.
Consider taking your own advice here? Free speech means people are also free to object when other people with whom they disagree politically receive corporate funding. And likewise, you not agreeing with them is only interesting to you.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by happytoexplain on Monday August 31, 2026 @02:37PM
(#49513212)
I disagree with the parent's wording and agree that the whole "people are free to say what they want" thing is generally not a compelling point in internet arguments, but there is a distinction you are omitting. People aren't just disagreeing with DHH's politics, they're implying that his project shouldn't be financed because of his politics. In that light, your counter-point isn't as applicable, since it's not symmetrical to what the parent is criticizing (regardless of whether you believe his politics are worthy of black-listing his work).
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jakelazaroff on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @02:28AM
(#49518643)
"DHH's politics" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. He has most recently called for citizens of western countries to be expelled on the basis of race. So while it's not exactly symmetrical, the people objecting to companies funding his project are not the only ones using their speech to put pressure on others.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by sho_hn on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:43AM
(#49510393)
It's especially weird considering DHH is heavily disliked by much of the Linux community for his political beliefs, and association with him is heavily frowned upon.
Over at KDE, we've seen some criticism for taking sponsorship money from Framework laptops because they sent him a laptop once.
I must believe on some level these sponsors are jumping on the bandwagon to show off how in they are with desktop Linux, now that it's slowly arriving in the mainstream, while possibly rather demonstrating their obliviousness.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by cpburns2009 on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:52AM
(#49510520)
The really strange thing about the criticism directed towards Framework is they simply sponsored the Hyprland window manager, not the Omarchy OS, but because Omarchy uses Hyprland that got conflated as funding Omarchy.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by wrl on Monday August 31, 2026 @01:49PM
(#49512608)
They keep sending DHH hardware and at one point they were sponsoring his Rails conference too. People backed off on the Hyprland sponsorship but Framework doubled down on DHH.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by edu on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:43AM
(#49510397)
The power of contacts, and looking at the initial list it seems it’s a bunch of founders whose startups succeed using Ruby on Rails, so I guess yeah… they owe some to DHH
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by microtonal on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @06:17AM
(#49520056)
Most likely also technofascists and other oddballs helping out their technofascist buddies. One of the other big sponsors:
In July 2026, Lütke expressed support for setting voting rights proportional to the level of income tax paid by a citizen, with those paying no income tax being stripped of their voting rights and others gaining one additional vote for each $100,000 paid in income tax up to five votes per person.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by weberer on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:45AM
(#49510430)
Its for a foundation where the Linux distro is their flagship product. Much like Mozilla or the Wikipedia foundation. It looks like they're also funding artists[1] and downstream projects[2].
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by ricardobeat on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:43AM
(#49510396)
Red Hat: billions, Canonical/Ubuntu, SUSE: hundreds of millions, Debian: one million/year. It's not that unusual for a distro to get funding - just a different scale here due to their connections.
Their foundation is now sponsoring Hyprland, mise and quickshell development, probably other projects to come.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jdiff on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:46AM
(#49510436)
There's a distinct difference between the contributions of Debian and that of Omarchy.
Debian is a foundational distro, it's a giant with huge populations standing on its shoulders. It shoulders a large ongoing burden, security guarantees, some of the largest maintained repos of any distro, a large amount of infrastructure.
Omarchy is a script and some dotfiles. Happy for them, of course, but it's odd. Omarchy just isn't doing that much.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jdiff on Monday August 31, 2026 @11:23AM
(#49510874)
Many distros don't bother with any of that. Calamares is a fine off-the-shelf installer. GRUB has fine defaults. Desktops have fine defaults. And many distros use those. Custom dotfiles and a way to apply them to a fresh system doesn't make a distro.
That's, truly, completely fine for a fledgling project, that's how many start before expanding beyond that... But why is Omarchy getting funding that's more in line with a distro that already has its own infrastructure?
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by Kon5ole on Monday August 31, 2026 @04:20PM
(#49514425)
>why is Omarchy getting funding that's more in line with a distro that already has its own infrastructure?
A few reasons spring to mind but I'll focus on the one I care about: It's damn good.
I've used Linux for over 20 years and it really stands out. Nothing has ever been as easy and fast to install and dropped me into a more polished, simple yet productive environment immediately.
I think the tiling VM will limit its appeal, and hope to see projects inspired by Omarchy put the same level of detail, pruning, curation and polish to Gnome and KDE-based distros.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by ricardobeat on Monday August 31, 2026 @05:58PM
(#49515351)
> 'custom dotfiles and a way to apply them to a fresh system'
Latest Omarchy 4 is a full ISO installer, with a quickshell-based desktop - not scripts, their own system apps, taskbar, notifications, etc. I'm failing to see how it is less of a distro than most, and the fact it doesn't try to customize the kernel or filesystem is a plus for me. May be time to take another look at it.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by mirzap on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:55AM
(#49510558)
You realize Omarchy just started a couple of months ago, right? The founder himself put his money and time where his mouth is.
Most of the thousands of distros are just a collection of config changes in GNOME, etc. There is no fundamental change in 99% of Linux distros. It's just different configurations of different tools, with the main differences being the package manager and window manager they use, plus their configs. Everything else is exactly the same.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jdiff on Monday August 31, 2026 @11:12AM
(#49510756)
That's a very simplistic and end-user-oriented view of what a distro is. Somebody hosts the infrastructure that Omarchy runs on. Somebody maintains the packages and applies specialized patches and communicates upstream. Omarchy doesn't do that. And that's fine.
Plenty of distros start out at that level. But those fledgling distros don't get these kinds of sponsorships. Why Omarchy?
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by soundnote on Saturday September 05, 2026 @06:53PM
(#49581512)
Omarchy does do that. They host their own packaging servers, which they keep intentionally a month behind Arch's to catch broken packages. They ship a custom kernel. They have a small AUR-like extra repository as well.
> Why Omarchy?
Because DHH has friends. It's not anything more special than that.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by cpburns2009 on Monday August 31, 2026 @11:03AM
(#49510644)
It appears to be an opinionated, batteries included distro/OS using a tiling window manager, and it's targeted at Mac/Windows power users. It's a niche target and time will tell whether it pays off.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jonkoops on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:41AM
(#49510357)
1Password can't even include ARM builds of their app in their existing packages [1]. I am highly skeptical of anything DHH (David Heinemeier Hansson) is the benevolent dictator of, and for good reason [2]. Perhaps that money would be spent better elsewhere in the ecosystem.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by rglover on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:48AM
(#49510462)
I can't quite put my finger on it but this rush to astroturf Omarchy just has bad vibes all around. DHH has been on a politician-level campaign to fund/promote what seems like a fun nerd project. Call me paranoid but it all just comes across as dubious.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by acdha on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @08:18AM
(#49520957)
It’s definitely noticeable and he has ties to politically-aligned tech billionaires - for example, when about a third of Basecamp employees resigned, Marc Andressen kept them solvent:
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by dotmariusz on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @08:19AM
(#49520962)
it feels super weird, suddenly everyone on x uses omarchy and talks about how it "revolutionized personal computing". guess 37signals started losing money after dhh's white nationalist tirades.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by mirzap on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:47AM
(#49510456)
They just founded the Foundation, and the money has not been allocated yet. But Hyperland, Quickshell, and some others already got 3 year sponsorship deals.
The AUR maintainers refused the cooperation and the money. So they will start working on new package management for Omarchy.
My guess, though, is that most of the money will go to DHH's obsession with Macs and anti-Apple stance (porting Linux to work on M architecture), either by directly funding Asahi Linux or by forking it to speed up development.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by mirzap on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @03:10PM
(#49526579)
Omarchy ISO is downloaded 20000 times A DAY. It's in the top 3 distros now. Only very sad and delusional people hate its success. I pity them, but I don’t want them anywhere near me.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by KetoManx64 on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @01:52AM
(#49518416)
They've already said that they refuse to work with DHH, which is fine, but the Asahi Devs and Arch Linux Devs have let politics overtake their entire existance and I'm happy someone is finally changing the status quo and shaking things up.
Let money actually go to competant people and not leftists that will ban you from their entire ecosystem if you even slightly disagree with their politics.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by phillipcarter on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @10:58AM
(#49522857)
I won’t repeat the numerous political blog posts he’s constantly posting these days for a so-called “tech only” guy.
Instead I’ll say that he’s currently doing a big podcast tour where he explicitly whines about how his employees pushed him to (he elides this part) remove a “funny list of customer names” on the grounds of said list being racially charged. And since he was “bullied” into doing that, he’s been on a tear lately declaring tech to be filled to the brim with political lunatics who just want to inject politics into everything. The precise thing that he’s still doing, years later.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by KetoManx64 on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @01:54AM
(#49518422)
Good they don't deserve it, they will just use it to spout their politics and ban individuals for their political views from the repos and wikis. Just look at their petty little meltdown over X-Libre
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by happytoexplain on Monday August 31, 2026 @12:03PM
(#49511354)
This is the only thing I've read about DHH's controversial opinions, so take this with a huge grain of salt. Maybe I'll change my mind tomorrow:
Those DHH quotes do not seem nearly as bad as I thought they were going to. In fact, they don't seem bad at all. You may vigorously disagree with them, I just mean that they are not clearly immoral. Of course, that's only if you take them at face value. There could be darker or more crack-pot opinions behind them, but that specter is hard to avoid with this topic.
The author's arguments are weak or tangential, and their conclusion seems overly dramatic. As a first impression, this puts me in the mindset of, "people are overreacting to DHH's opinions because it's related to immigration/race/culture." Again, maybe I'll change my mind, but as a first impression, that's what this article tells me.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jdiff on Monday August 31, 2026 @12:23PM
(#49511581)
Wanting to forcibly eject all brown people isn't enough to call someone radically racist? That's not a middle-of-the-road, agree-to-disagree kind of stance.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by happytoexplain on Monday August 31, 2026 @03:48PM
(#49514117)
No, I am sympathetic to his critics if that's what he is saying. I just don't see that in the article. But on the other hand, since this is an example of cultural replacement where the new folks happen to be disproportionately brown, this may just be a case of those who are passionate about the idea of racial equality getting a little incensed, which is understandable (laudable, even), but cultural replacement is a real and valid source of misery/desperation.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by phs318u on Monday August 31, 2026 @05:43PM
(#49515178)
Since you’re happytoexplain, please explain to me what cultural replacement/disruption looks like in western countries. I can see it happening in countries like China with the Uighurs, in Bangladesh with the Rohingya, but I can’t see any actual “culture” erasure happening in Britain or Australia or the United States. I see plenty of cultural enrichment, but no erasure.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by happytoexplain on Monday August 31, 2026 @09:39PM
(#49516943)
No need to be sarcastic and mock my username or my culture. I'm not asserting that you're an asshole or something because you don't agree that there is cultural disruption and/or replacement in London or parts of the US. The entire concept is subjective and highly experiential, despite (or because of?) the drama and trauma intrinsic to it. I will say though that elevating the definition to essentially require genocide minimizes reality.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by phs318u on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @09:57PM
(#49530848)
Your username is self chosen. If you elect to be offended by people using it that’s on you. And like you, I’m not “asserting that you’re an asshole”. I’m also not “elevating the definition”. True cultural erasure involves the active banning and repression of cultural symbols (be they of language, dress, beliefs). If you have a different definition let’s hear it. Otherwise don’t put words in my mouth or project the chip on your own shoulder.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by dwb on Monday August 31, 2026 @06:02PM
(#49515375)
Your reading comprehension and political awareness needs a lot of work.
> cultural replacement/disruption is a real and valid source of misery/desperation
Not like this it isn’t. To the extent that there’s a valid complaint, it’s the fault of those who’ve been in power over the last few decades. To turn the blame on minorities is a classic rightist move, and it’s always cowardly, nasty, and wrong.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jdiff on Monday August 31, 2026 @07:30PM
(#49516084)
But this isn't happening. To cite someone with closer experience (who also does admit that the "migration issue in Britain is complicated and multi-layered") [0]:
> To all of that he adds a dash of Islamophobia, citing “Pakistani rape gangs” as one of the reasons for the unrest, repeating a weaponised trope borne from a long since discredited report from the Quilliam Foundation, an organisation with ties to both the the US Tea Party, and Tommy Robinson himself. A trope that exists despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of convicted child sex offenders are white men, with Asian men in fact under-represented.
People who want to be racist will find or invent any evidence necessary to dig themselves in deeper. There is no basis or validity to it. If there were, there would be no need to be so coy and indirect about it.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jdiff on Monday August 31, 2026 @03:25PM
(#49513848)
He explicitly says that nonwhite people feel alien and like they don't belong. He "heartwarming"ly embraces Tommy Robinson's white replacement marches advocating for forced "remigration" as a breath of fresh air against what he calls suicidal empathy. Must I show my work when adding 2 plus 2 or can we agree that the answer is 4?
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by happytoexplain on Monday August 31, 2026 @09:31PM
(#49516884)
>Must I show my work when adding 2 plus 2 or can we agree that the answer is 4?
This is arrogant in a damaging way. You should prefer to answer the asked question, since that would be an effective piece of information in this case (i.e. it's not a bait question, so it's not harmful to engage with).
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by jdiff on Monday August 31, 2026 @11:25PM
(#49517630)
The answers are present in the post we're discussing quite plainly without any reading between the lines necessary. I think the simplicity of the analogy is fitting. If not bait, there are few charitable explanations.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by dwb on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @02:59AM
(#49518851)
Commenter is, like me, mystified that reading comprehension can be that poor. Even without the linked post’s commentary, a plain reading of DHH’s original post should be enough to see exactly where he is politically. So to have to spell it out for you and others feels like we’re being taken for a ride.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by dwb on Monday August 31, 2026 @01:07PM
(#49512109)
So you think it's entirely moral to label only white British people as "native Brits"? To speak warmly of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's ("Tommy Robinson") marches? Unless you are also comfortably on the far right, I'm at a loss.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by dopple on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @12:03AM
(#49517819)
This is a direct quote from DHH [1]:
> When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them. This isn't hard, it isn't cruel. It's the basic logic of self-preservation.
Dehumanization of an entire ethnic group by comparing them to animals. Use of violent rhetoric to forcibly ethnically cleanse a region.
There's a word for people who employ this rhetoric. Can you guess?
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by anildash on Monday August 31, 2026 @04:05PM
(#49514279)
Since then, he also called for a pogrom against Romani people, in language that explicitly mirrored that which the Nazis used when calling for ethnic cleansing against the same group of people.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by mcv on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @08:48AM
(#49521261)
It is a valid question, and the many, many answers to it are worth reading.
In short: he's made it very clear that he's a racist who doesn't like that there are non-white people living in London, doesn't like Roma, and seems to have a problem with non-white people in general.
Disliking most of the world is a good way to get most of the world to dislike you.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by pelagicAustral on Monday August 31, 2026 @10:44AM
(#49510411)
Good for the Linux ecosystem. People forget they are not bound to install it, if you are so sore from a blog post just use any of the other hundreds of distros out there.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by terracatta on Monday August 31, 2026 @11:00AM
(#49510605)
Hey, 1Password product lead here who worked on this. I thought I'd share some thoughts.
First, I'm pretty excited by Omarchy, and it seems 1Password customers are as well. Omarchy 4 was the first release to identify itself as Omarchy vs. Arch, and in just two short weeks since the launch it's already the #3 most-used Linux distro by active users. Ubuntu is #1 but has a pretty extreme sawtooth pattern where usage collapses on the weekends. This is not true with Omarchy, where we are seeing virtually no drop-off on the weekends yet, and last Saturday it actually surpassed Ubuntu 24.04 as the #1 most-used Linux distro. I suspect it will remain #1 every weekend going forward.
Second, what keeps us up at night is credentials getting into AI inference/context. We are working with everyone we can to stay as close as possible to the tools and OS' that become the canonical ways to use agents, so we can ensure that the humans who pay for 1Password remain in control of their credentials — and ideally, that those credentials never are seen by an AI agent.
What we released about a month ago with Anthropic (security info here: https://support.1password.com/1password-claude-security/) is a glimpse into how we are making that happen architecturally. Being able to work closely with the frontier-model and harness companies and builders is essential to our mission to create a safer, simpler digital future for everyone.
Omarchy and Linux in general are an exciting place for us to dream pretty big about how we solve these problems. This is a very malleable OS, lately it's where the most AI-forward users are, and a place where we can learn together how to create something that's both convenient and safe.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by throwaway763864 on Monday August 31, 2026 @02:33PM
(#49513151)
Why is this succeeding while other OSS funding initiatives have failed? These companies were just waiting to be sure their money would go to a confirmed Nazi?
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by anildash on Monday August 31, 2026 @04:03PM
(#49514253)
It's vice-signaling. They want to make sure that the industry knows that calling for a pogrom against the Romani people is the kind of malevolence that will be rewarded.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by acdha on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @08:39AM
(#49521165)
I think Wilhoit’s law[1] is also a major factor: these guys appear to have taken things like codes of conduct as a personal affront because in many cases it was the first time penalties started being applied to people they identified with as fellow in-group members. You can see this in lots of cases - e.g. compare SV elite reactions to the alleged shoplifting epidemic to the way the same people feel about cheating on taxes or misleading investors for orders of magnitude more money.
1. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition … There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect”
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by soraminazuki on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @11:33AM
(#49523367)
This is a betrayal of trust by 1Password. Their customers didn't choose to pay thinking that their money would go to a tech right grifter's fund that exploits the work of others for marketing.
Re:Omarchy: 1Password and 37signals become Distinguished Cor...
by apple4ever on Tuesday September 01, 2026 @06:22PM
(#49529039)
I know people don't like his politics, but the bigger issue to me is that 37signals removes manager titles from the low level people but not the high level people, yet they get the same work and duties. It's insulting.
In large parts of the internet, open bigotry is thankfully still socially unacceptable. But when bigotry is wrapped up in a software project like this, it gives people posting/upvoting/sharing a level of plausible deniability.
> When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them. This isn't hard, it isn't cruel. It's the basic logic of self-preservation.
Here’s another, referring to the roughly ⅔ of London residents who aren’t white:
> London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits. In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91217605/new-york-times-editoria...
(because you always have to explain the joke on this site, everyone was warned about these fascists before and during their rise to power, and this site supports them because the obvious reason https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00146-026-02862-9)
Didn't John Cleese already explain the difference between a culturalist and a racist?
And companies clearly want that as well.
If they actually cared about investing in the ecosystem (and not dividing it), they'd be investing in something besides a ricer project. No shade against ricers, but it's not exactly QubesOS or NixOS or Silveblue or Talos, not exactly pushing the envelope in any direction besides "pretty". DHH may have great opinions about Linux for all I know, but I just don't see how you justify millions of dollars for really good opinions--especially because his other opinions are widely regarded as especially bad.
It's the same playbook that governed US foreign policy in the 70's (consider Chile for example):
- identify your remote enemies
- identify their local enemies
- empower the second group
- regime change, and now the new regime owes you a favor
The regime they're looking to change is that most tech folk don't tolerate white supremacists.
Even calling Omarchy a distro seems to be a stretch. The best description I're read is that it is a Hyprland setup for Arch. As far as what a Linux distro can be, this is pretty mediocre. The sort of thing that would get an HN thread, see minor traction, and take the backseat.
But, quite a lot of people seem interested in hyping it. I suspect the reason is just because the dude behind it is not shy about being an ethnonationalist, "great replacement theory" asshole, etc.
Quite a few people here are very fond of those talking points. Thinking about brown people being ethnically cleansed makes them all tingly inside. So, they really want to talk about Omarchy as a proxy.
Omarchy started as a pile of dotfiles a year ago. It isn't that anymore, and DHH's intended direction is towards a fully independent foundation distro.
The boss of the mafia org then forces the auctioneer to offer worthless paintings and forces various people to bid high. The paintings are just required so that something exchanges hands.
This is much of the software industry in a nutshell, except that no coercion is required. Just something needs to exchange hands.
I'm sure you can come up with scenarios where A wants clean money to go to B but still prefers a pretext.
In this case the now 12M (Brian Armstrong now also "donated") could be for AI and right-wing promotion for example.
Hope they redirect some of their fundings to them!
https://youtu.be/yIA4idIdY_k
The video above is in inline with my opinion. If you ship an ISO (so users can install your distro directly without installing another distro first) and have control over the packages then you are a distro. Apparently, Omarchy has its own ISO and it's own mirror of the arch package repo so it is a distro by that definition.
At the time Ubuntu started, Debian's old installer (boot-floppies) was legendary for its unfriendliness, and the new all-singing, all-dancing replacement was a mammoth endeavour and a long way off completion. Ubuntu provided a simple, friendly installer that covered only the limited set of the most common use cases, but was a dramatic improvement for new users.
They also employed a bunch of Debian developers, and gave them space to continue their work for Debian. It wasn't all smooth sailing, but Debian was stronger as a result of their contributions right from the very start.
Now, maybe Omarchy are providing a similarly major contribution to Arch - but, if they are, they've kept quiet about it so far.
They are fully funding the author of Hyprland for 3 years.
DDH offered to work with Arch and they refused.
It's more like a set of dotfiles, but yeah.
I am inclined to believe everyone sane will distance themselves from it. Just like GNOME did.
Consider taking your own advice here? Free speech means people are also free to object when other people with whom they disagree politically receive corporate funding. And likewise, you not agreeing with them is only interesting to you.
https://git.outfoxxed.me/quickshell/quickshell (GNU LGPL 3)
https://github.com/hyprwm/Hyprland (BSD)
https://github.com/jdx/mise (MIT)
are not really foss
Over at KDE, we've seen some criticism for taking sponsorship money from Framework laptops because they sent him a laptop once.
I must believe on some level these sponsors are jumping on the bandwagon to show off how in they are with desktop Linux, now that it's slowly arriving in the mainstream, while possibly rather demonstrating their obliviousness.
In July 2026, Lütke expressed support for setting voting rights proportional to the level of income tax paid by a citizen, with those paying no income tax being stripped of their voting rights and others gaining one additional vote for each $100,000 paid in income tax up to five votes per person.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_L%C3%BCtke#Voting_right...
[1] https://omarchy.org/air/
[2] https://omarchy.org/sponsorships/
Their foundation is now sponsoring Hyprland, mise and quickshell development, probably other projects to come.
Debian is a foundational distro, it's a giant with huge populations standing on its shoulders. It shoulders a large ongoing burden, security guarantees, some of the largest maintained repos of any distro, a large amount of infrastructure.
Omarchy is a script and some dotfiles. Happy for them, of course, but it's odd. Omarchy just isn't doing that much.
I think the "set of dotfiles" was called Omakub. Omarchy is a distro like any other - custom installer, bootloader, desktop and WM setup, etc.
That's, truly, completely fine for a fledgling project, that's how many start before expanding beyond that... But why is Omarchy getting funding that's more in line with a distro that already has its own infrastructure?
A few reasons spring to mind but I'll focus on the one I care about: It's damn good.
I've used Linux for over 20 years and it really stands out. Nothing has ever been as easy and fast to install and dropped me into a more polished, simple yet productive environment immediately.
I think the tiling VM will limit its appeal, and hope to see projects inspired by Omarchy put the same level of detail, pruning, curation and polish to Gnome and KDE-based distros.
Latest Omarchy 4 is a full ISO installer, with a quickshell-based desktop - not scripts, their own system apps, taskbar, notifications, etc. I'm failing to see how it is less of a distro than most, and the fact it doesn't try to customize the kernel or filesystem is a plus for me. May be time to take another look at it.
Most of the thousands of distros are just a collection of config changes in GNOME, etc. There is no fundamental change in 99% of Linux distros. It's just different configurations of different tools, with the main differences being the package manager and window manager they use, plus their configs. Everything else is exactly the same.
Plenty of distros start out at that level. But those fledgling distros don't get these kinds of sponsorships. Why Omarchy?
> Why Omarchy?
Because DHH has friends. It's not anything more special than that.
1. https://support.1password.com/install-linux/#arm-or-other-di... 2. https://thelibre.news/lets-talk-about-dhh/
https://x.com/davidsenra/status/2081956616963006913
https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/30/22412714/basecamp-employe...
The AUR maintainers refused the cooperation and the money. So they will start working on new package management for Omarchy.
My guess, though, is that most of the money will go to DHH's obsession with Macs and anti-Apple stance (porting Linux to work on M architecture), either by directly funding Asahi Linux or by forking it to speed up development.
Let money actually go to competant people and not leftists that will ban you from their entire ecosystem if you even slightly disagree with their politics.
https://davidcel.is/articles/rails-needs-new-governance
https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro...
These are some examples from the source:
https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a
Kinda like saying that in modern feminese, "man" means "rapist".
Instead I’ll say that he’s currently doing a big podcast tour where he explicitly whines about how his employees pushed him to (he elides this part) remove a “funny list of customer names” on the grounds of said list being racially charged. And since he was “bullied” into doing that, he’s been on a tear lately declaring tech to be filled to the brim with political lunatics who just want to inject politics into everything. The precise thing that he’s still doing, years later.
"Update: I heard back! The team was not interested in any direct collaboration with Omarchy or the Omacom Foundation. Message received "
Beyond my moral objections and public security concerns, I saw more forethought from ClearLinux by Intel around the same maturity point.
Hype doesn't make an OS appealing to me.
https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thoug...
Those DHH quotes do not seem nearly as bad as I thought they were going to. In fact, they don't seem bad at all. You may vigorously disagree with them, I just mean that they are not clearly immoral. Of course, that's only if you take them at face value. There could be darker or more crack-pot opinions behind them, but that specter is hard to avoid with this topic.
The author's arguments are weak or tangential, and their conclusion seems overly dramatic. As a first impression, this puts me in the mindset of, "people are overreacting to DHH's opinions because it's related to immigration/race/culture." Again, maybe I'll change my mind, but as a first impression, that's what this article tells me.
> cultural replacement/disruption is a real and valid source of misery/desperation
Not like this it isn’t. To the extent that there’s a valid complaint, it’s the fault of those who’ve been in power over the last few decades. To turn the blame on minorities is a classic rightist move, and it’s always cowardly, nasty, and wrong.
> To all of that he adds a dash of Islamophobia, citing “Pakistani rape gangs” as one of the reasons for the unrest, repeating a weaponised trope borne from a long since discredited report from the Quilliam Foundation, an organisation with ties to both the the US Tea Party, and Tommy Robinson himself. A trope that exists despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of convicted child sex offenders are white men, with Asian men in fact under-represented.
People who want to be racist will find or invent any evidence necessary to dig themselves in deeper. There is no basis or validity to it. If there were, there would be no need to be so coy and indirect about it.
[0] https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro...
This is arrogant in a damaging way. You should prefer to answer the asked question, since that would be an effective piece of information in this case (i.e. it's not a bait question, so it's not harmful to engage with).
> When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them. This isn't hard, it isn't cruel. It's the basic logic of self-preservation.
Dehumanization of an entire ethnic group by comparing them to animals. Use of violent rhetoric to forcibly ethnically cleanse a region.
There's a word for people who employ this rhetoric. Can you guess?
[1] https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a
In short: he's made it very clear that he's a racist who doesn't like that there are non-white people living in London, doesn't like Roma, and seems to have a problem with non-white people in general.
Disliking most of the world is a good way to get most of the world to dislike you.
First, I'm pretty excited by Omarchy, and it seems 1Password customers are as well. Omarchy 4 was the first release to identify itself as Omarchy vs. Arch, and in just two short weeks since the launch it's already the #3 most-used Linux distro by active users. Ubuntu is #1 but has a pretty extreme sawtooth pattern where usage collapses on the weekends. This is not true with Omarchy, where we are seeing virtually no drop-off on the weekends yet, and last Saturday it actually surpassed Ubuntu 24.04 as the #1 most-used Linux distro. I suspect it will remain #1 every weekend going forward.
Second, what keeps us up at night is credentials getting into AI inference/context. We are working with everyone we can to stay as close as possible to the tools and OS' that become the canonical ways to use agents, so we can ensure that the humans who pay for 1Password remain in control of their credentials — and ideally, that those credentials never are seen by an AI agent.
What we released about a month ago with Anthropic (security info here: https://support.1password.com/1password-claude-security/) is a glimpse into how we are making that happen architecturally. Being able to work closely with the frontier-model and harness companies and builders is essential to our mission to create a safer, simpler digital future for everyone.
Omarchy and Linux in general are an exciting place for us to dream pretty big about how we solve these problems. This is a very malleable OS, lately it's where the most AI-forward users are, and a place where we can learn together how to create something that's both convenient and safe.
1. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition … There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect”
This actually sounds like the literal definition of quid pro quo.
https://x.com/jmeller/status/1971530423030387081?s=46