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Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by gmd63 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @01:57PM (#43635163)
It's so painfully obvious to anyone paying attention that his whole character reeks of fraud. How this news could ever come as a surprise to anyone is a testament to how poorly our mainstream and social media outlets have informed the citizenry.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by christina97 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:25PM (#43635560)
Fox News is by far the most watched TV news channel in the US.

I think it is clear that they are not out there to inform the citizenry in any meaningful capacity. (Side note: I suggest watching the channel every now and then just to get an idea of what the largest “news” channel is feeding Americans.)

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by tartoran on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:35PM (#43635717)
Fox News is entertainment masquerading as news.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by intrasight on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:49PM (#43635978)
Not even masquerading. They came out and stated publicly that they're an entertainment company.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by nielsbot on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:27PM (#43636604)
To avoid having to be truthful
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by neogodless on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:24PM (#43636563)
Brain washing masquerading as entertainment masquerading as news.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by thoughtpalette on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:03PM (#43636220)
I don't know why you're being downvoted. It was stated in a court case from them that they're entertainment.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by AStonesThrow on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:04PM (#43636237)
If you think about it, television has never been designed to inform or edify anyone.

Television is meant to sell ads and blanket the nations with a haze of opiates in order to keep us pacified and distracted and far too stupid to make waves.

And people blame religion for this stuff ...

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lazyeye on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:31PM (#43635657)
Obviously fox news is politically biased in its coverage. I just dont understand how any objective observer could perceive the others (cnn, msnbc etc) as any different?
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by dralley on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:07PM (#43636275)
It's awfully hard to find any content on CNN or MSNBC that approaches the total shamelessness which Fox displays on a regular basis.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1895597181945725304

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1905778768511406175

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1909744238621020262

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1909717088241172661

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by inahga on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:20PM (#43636504)
Something about first two links gives me Breencast vibes.

e.g. https://youtu.be/1gKcGrxZbFA

https://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/Breencast

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lazyeye on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:16PM (#43636442)
They are all opinion shows but Im sure its not that hard to find examples in the opposite vein on other channels where America is described as racist, white supremacist etc (all the left-wing tropes).
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by jvossy on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:21PM (#43636519)
Then go find them and report back.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lazyeye on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @05:35PM (#43638269)
The examples of opinion shows on msnbc/cnn attacking republicans and covering for democrats are endless and just as relentless as fox news. Rachel Maddow for example, ran the Russia collusion hoax lie for years.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by Braxton1980 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:18PM (#43636467)
Because it's not boolean
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Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by Braxton1980 on Saturday April 12, 2025 @02:10AM (#43661792)
Sorry. I knew that but wasn't paying enough attention writing the comment
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by thrance on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:37PM (#43635760)
Literally all that's on Fox News is lies upon lies in service of the GOP. I do not hold the other channels in my heart, but there are degrees of misleadingness and partisanship.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by hkpack on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:40PM (#43635810)
The problem is not political bias, but disinformation.

Clumping everyone in one group is actually one of the goals of this: to get people tired of trying to figure out reality and to give up.

As obvious as it is - when you think everyone lies, liars will be the only ones who win. When you think that everyone is the same - the worst ones will win every time.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lazyeye on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:11PM (#43636355)
I'm not completely sure what point you are trying to make but I can assure you we get all kinds of distortions, half-truths, lies and cherry-picked narratives from channels other than Fox news too.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by plusmax1 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:27PM (#43636621)
Fox News is less a news outlet and more a performance art piece in which actors, costumed as journalists, deliver carefully scripted outrage to an audience so thoroughly conditioned they believe they're watching journalism—when in reality, it’s more akin to a soap opera written by a political strategist and directed by the ghost of Joseph McCarthy.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by etchalon on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:38PM (#43635771)
The difference is what the bias tends towards. Jon Stewart made this point a decade ago, and I don't think anything has changed. Fox New is biased in partisan way – specifically protecting and advocating towards the goals of a political party.

NYT, CNN, etc are biased towards other things first (conflict, spectacle, consensus) and while the majority of their staff likely have a liberal bias, they are not actively partisan.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYbtUztVctI

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lazyeye on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:04PM (#43636236)
"they are not actively partisan"....again, no objective observer believes this. And quoting Jon Stewart would be like me quoting Tucker Carlson.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lovich on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:20PM (#43636514)
Oh? I hadn’t heard that Stewart got his company a 780+ million dollar settlement in large part because he had texts stating he knew he was lying to the public.

Someone should do something about that Stewart fellow if he keeps getting away with the stuff

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by nielsbot on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:28PM (#43636635)
I can find this (easily). Link?
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lovich on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @05:27PM (#43638192)
I was being sarcastic. Tucker is a proven in court liar and propagandist and the person I was replying to was stating that John Stewart’s biases are equivalent in magnitude
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lazyeye on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @05:54PM (#43638432)
Stewart is obviously a died-in-the-wool leftist and if you can't see that then you lack basic comprehension skills.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by etchalon on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @08:04PM (#43639304)
You seem to enjoy stating subjective, debatable opinions as objective fact without any evidence while pairing them with juvenile insults.

It's very effective.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lazyeye on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @09:34PM (#43639797)
The facts exist independent of your empty words.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lovich on Thursday April 10, 2025 @01:50AM (#43641050)
I never argued otherwise. But implying that just being biased towards one side is equivalent to Tucker Carlsons level of dedication to the cause in spite of the truth is where you are wrong.

Eh, wrong is too weak. I think you fully understand the false comparison you are making and how it influences public discourse

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by nielsbot on Thursday April 10, 2025 @12:01AM (#43640509)
went right over my head. oops.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by 7thaccount on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:22PM (#43636537)
I think there is a very big difference between Stewart and Tucker.

You might not agree with Stewart's principles, but he has them and will fight his own party over it. Tucker flew over to Russia to kiss Putin's behind and even Putin made fun of how bad it was. He then tried to show how awesome it was in Russia and made it obvious that he hasn't been in a grocery store in ages.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by shadowgovt on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:40PM (#43636814)
Carlson, in contrast to Stewart, is probably one of the better examples of the strength of freedom of the press in the United States.

Where Stewart has and does continue to work successfully with several mainstream media channels, Carlson is so dislikable he can only be heard because he founded his own podcast. Truly, it is a great country that has the laws protecting that man's right to keep being heard.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lazyeye on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @09:38PM (#43639813)
I believe Carlson was one of the most popular hosts on one of the most popular channels till he was sacked. Keeping your job in the mainstream media, is no badge of honour. It just means you're happy to sacrifice your independence and submit to the demands of the media biz (and mainstream groupthink).
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by shadowgovt on Thursday April 10, 2025 @12:00AM (#43640506)
Indeed, whether it is a badge of honor to be so professionally dislikable you can no longer hold employment in the entertainment sector under anyone but yourself is something reasonable people can disagree on. But what a great country it is that guarantees him the right to still be so self-employed!
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by mrguyorama on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @04:56PM (#43637887)
Jon Stewart has never presented the news
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by mmooss on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @04:26PM (#43637505)
Everything and everybody is politically biased. It means nothing to say that. Everyone is a liar, but it means nothing about honesty to point that out.

What is meaningful is the degree to which they are, and what else they are. I don't think we need a pedantic debate about Fox News.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by brokensegue on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:15PM (#43635399)
I think the media has made it plenty clear he's a fraud. The citizenry is to blame (or I guess maybe the education system or lead)
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by cameldrv on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:48PM (#43635971)
It's partially an educational problem. I'm old enough to have been taught an idealized version of U.S. history in school. We learned things like how George Washington chopped down his father's cherry tree, but when his father asked him if he had done it, he "could not tell a lie." There was Honest Abe, who, as a child, walked 5 miles to return 2 cents that had been given to him as change in error.

Now, maybe this stuff wasn't all historically true, but in a sense it was better than true. It set an expectation for an ideal President. Serious dishonesty was taught as being disqualifying for the office of President, and honesty was taught as the deepest American value. Even if, in reality, prior Presidents hadn't always been honest, it created a tendency for voters to strongly prefer honest appearing candidates. Nixon's resignation was maybe the strongest affirmation of this principle that ever happened. I think it was with Clinton that this broke, and people started not to care too much about honesty and exclusively focus on their own perceived interests. Certainly the media environment, economic conditions, and the decline of mainline Protestantism had something to do with it too.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by radley on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:23PM (#43636548)
> I think it was with Clinton that this broke, and people started not to care too much about honesty and exclusively focus on their own perceived interests.

Or, more likely, when Fox News was launched (1996) during his tenure.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by cameldrv on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:38PM (#43636768)
Well yes, it's complicated. That's part of what I meant by the "media environment." In the post-war period, broadcast media was mostly dominant, but it was both regulated and subject to the fairness doctrine, but also limited. There were only a few channels per metro area. News was only on an hour or two per day, and it wasn't that popular, so it lost money, but it was required by law as public interest programming in order to retain the FCC broadcast license.

The lower production costs, higher reach, and nonexistent regulation of wide bandwidth cable TV created the space for Fox, and then also to a lesser extent, MSNBC.

In my opinion, the distorted information propagated by these outlets had a synergistic effect with the changes in the emphasis of the educational system in the late 80s-early 90s to deemphasize honesty as a core American value.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by sitkack on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:19PM (#43636487)
You are right about everything except it goes back to Nixon.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by smrtinsert on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:54PM (#43636054)
Anecdotally, most of the people I know who support his policies do so in hopes that their financial choices will work out. They are educated and financially well off individuals. Do they check all the boxes (international dev, economics, science, etc)? No, but they can be considered educated over the general US pop.

Not a great comparison obviously, but education was great in the Weimar republic as well, with a diverse and thriving press and near 100% literacy. The United States can't match those numbers.

It seems its always about something else besides educational level.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by esafak on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:28PM (#43636631)
Germans were grappling with losing WWI. Americans are grappling with being overtaken by China.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by sleepyguy on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:20PM (#43635484)
54% of all Americans read and comprehend at a Grade 6 lvl. This probably includes the President and his closest advisors.....
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by nineplay on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:05PM (#43636247)
I think the media continues to sane-wash him. The AP news headline of his recent meeting with Mark Rutte was

"NATO secretary-general tells Trump he’s motivating alliance members to spend more on defense"

It doesn't say anything about Greenland. It should have because Trump continued to push it:

""We've been dealing with Denmark, we've been dealing with Greenland, and we have to do it. We really need it for national security. I think that's why NATO might have to get involved in a way, because we really need Greenland for national security. It's very important," Trump said."

From Reuters, which seems to be doing a moderately better job.

"Trump wants to control Greenland" along with "Trump threatens to annex Canada" should be at the top of every headline because its complete insanity. No one voted for this, no one wants this, if Biden had said it or Obama had said it or any president had said it at any time every they would have become a laughing stock and every politician and voter would have risen up against them.

But it gets swept under the rug, in the same way all his insanity gets swept under the rug. Where were the headlines when he openly admired Arnold Palmer's penis? Nowhere, instead we got "Trump attacks Harris on immigration".

I've got my explanations but they all make me sound like a raving conspiracy theorist. Nevertheless, its my only explanation. This is what happens when its us vs. the billionaires. They can always outspend, and everyone really only cares about the bottom line.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by timewizard on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:18PM (#43635452)
Billions of dollars spent on elections by people with insane net worths and you're going to blame the citizens who largely struggle to get from paycheck to paycheck? Hacker News attracts a real "social bully" element for reasons I can't rightly determine.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by dylan604 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:47PM (#43635926)
It's easy to assume everyone thinks the same way. It's hard to comprehend just how different other lifestyles might be, so it's just easier hand wave it all away. It might not even be intentional or consciously being done.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by Imustaskforhelp on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:24PM (#43635537)
It's both, we know citizens have power (Wisconsin), we know money has power(Elon Musk)

But Wisconsin was wondering because people hate Elon Musk.

My worry is that billionaires would fund anonymously both political media and they also own their own social media and so citizens would kind of less vote ... Or billionaire power would overcome that of citizen.

I think we need citizens to be aware of this but I also understand politics is a shitshow and i have so many hassles, why take another one.

And to that, I have no answer. i myself am stuck on this dilemma. I am really going to stop reading news because I don't think I personally can do anything. I have better things to do like studying or building software which can do better impact.

Though it also doesn't sucks to know about politics except I have seen people are really set in stone of politics, myself included.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by keybored on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:47PM (#43635933)
Most politics chatter is in-group therapy sessions. For SC libs under a Republican administration the analysis becomes: did the majority push the Republican button? And the analysis ends there.

For this therapeutic session there is no room for looking beyond the absolute surface of the issue, like you did.

But unfortunately these narratives don’t just get trotted out among apolitical libs. The political scientist Rachel Bitecofer had a social media meltdown when Trump won. And again the analysis was “who pushed the Republican button”.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by sleepyguy on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:22PM (#43635506)
Those same citizens voted for Trump so they could put screws in iPhones and their children would have a bright future working in coal mines and factories.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by cryptonector on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:18PM (#43636474)
According to a sibling top-comment this is not a decision to not pursue cryptocurrency fraud altogether, just to leave some such crimes to other agencies in the federal government. That is, if the SEC wants charges filed against some person, then presumably the DOJ will prosecute, but the DOJ will not prosecute w/o the SEC (or other regulator) requesting it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43636390

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lenerdenator on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:28PM (#43635619)
If you're screwed enough you eventually just want to burn the whole thing down, whether it's rational or not, and there are definitely some people who voted that way.

That, or he's just a recognition of reality: resources and being a dick get you everywhere, whether it be business, politics, international relations, or the courts. Being authoritarian didn't stop China from becoming a near-parity superpower. Europeans were more than happy to start working on Nordstream 2 and attend both the World Cup and Winter Olympics in Russia long after it became apparent that Putin and his ilk were going to return to being imperialistic autocrats. Why does it matter if the US does the same if you're willing to fall in line?

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by Zigurd on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:41PM (#43635823)
Most of Europe and European leaders have admitted they were wrong about Russia. Some, but not enough, Republicans know the vatniks among them are wrong.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lenerdenator on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @04:43PM (#43637724)
They were, but they've shown that they'll gladly ignore human rights abuses and autocracy so long as the price is right. Trump's used to doing business that way, unfortunately.

Really, if Putin hadn't invaded Ukraine, I don't think Europeans would particularly care about those problems in Russia. It only really became problematic when the order of the continent was threatened, and even then it took some serious arm-twisting to get certain members of NATO and the EU to commit to measures to do something.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by Zigurd on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @07:18PM (#43639029)
Of course, relative to starting a land war in Europe "...if Putin hadn't invaded Ukraine, I don't think Europeans would particularly care..."

That's proportionate. Equally, though, I'm sure they would be pleased to find Russia wanting to join a rules based order. Bolsonaro was just recently found to be plotting to kill his political rival in Brazil. What should we who are not Brazilians do about that?

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lenerdenator on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @09:31PM (#43639782)
Depends. Are the Brazilians doing anything about it?

If not, and no one else is, then there's a chance that someone like Trump might try to do something like that himself. That's what he does. He sees someone else getting away with something bad, tries to do it because he thinks he'll get an advantage, gets caught, and complains about how unfair it is that he got caught.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by matwood on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:17PM (#43635442)
This plus pausing enforcement of foreign bribery plus having is own meme coin, is anyone still questioning if Trump is absolutely being bribed by foreign agents?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/paus...

https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/trumps-meme-coin-...

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by nimbius on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:18PM (#43635447)
If for some reason you did not understand cryptocurrency outside of its use in countries like North Korea, and wanted to crush its consumer confidence, you would in fact turn it into a lawless madhouse in favour of your fiat (which is rapidly losing value)

Trump forgets the US, and most other major nations have a cryptocoin. a loss of confidence in an emerging currency market is a great way to torpedo your nations hegemony.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by timewizard on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:17PM (#43635429)
> is a testament to how poorly our mainstream and social media outlets have informed the citizenry.

You're assuming people _want_ to be "informed." You could build the best news apparatus in the world, the most accurate reporting, with full scale third party auditing of your results.

It likely would not change very much. Humans are not designed to lock into large scale groups and then make coordinated long term decisions together. In my opinion we should avoid doing this as much as is possible.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by csoups14 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:20PM (#43635475)
Agreed. People want to be entertained, not informed.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by scrubs on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:28PM (#43635609)
Great point. I made much the same before in a different way.

We're all clear Disney, Star Wars, TV is entertainment. People are not clear that Rush Limbaugh, opinion makers on podcasts, Fox, CNN, Tick-tock is also entertainment.

The straightest venue for news proper has got to be CSPAN. They're clearly there to inform not to push a point, piss you off at the other side, or any other shadow-boxing goals.

Getting people pissed off to own the liberals, the neo-cons, to own the Trump supporters is ... entertainment and it doesn't hurt (I write this cynically) it helps drives up ad-revenue.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by keybored on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:48PM (#43635972)
Are you people?
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by spacecadet on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:40PM (#43635813)
"Are you not entertained?!"
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by ASalazarMX on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:53PM (#43636042)
IMO what is becoming painfully obvious is that the checks and balances don't work, and need a serious overhauling. It should be impossible for a single person, or even a whole party, to blatantly break the law, or risk national security with reckless decisions, and face no consequences.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by bongodongobob on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:01PM (#43635210)
It's been obvious since the 70s. That's what baffles me so much. He's been the face of the rich person asshole fraudster for 50 years. I cannot wrap my head around it.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by shawn_w on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:09PM (#43635328)
Whoever it was that hired him for The Apprentice has a lot to answer for.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by phonon on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:19PM (#43635464)
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by Zigurd on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:45PM (#43635892)
I know people, some of them educated, who are absolutely addicted to Burnett's reality TV shows. Those shows are uniformly routinely cruel to their participants. I find it creepy that some people are attracted to that kind of entertainment. There's something deep inside them that I don't want to see.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by Fairburn on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:11PM (#43635342)
It's because the folks in the back-end of things like what he represents in terms of wealth consolidation and fewer lookie-loos to peek inside to see what's truly going on. "Trump" is a symptom of much broader things that can only be fixed by fire. And even then, just like the cockroach, he'll scurry away under the baseboards to hide until his next meal.
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by bruce511 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:40PM (#43635807)
He gives people permission to be their worst selves.

When the president gets away with all sorts of crime. When he openly mocks people. When he indulges in racism. When he complains about being treated unfairly. When he lies. When he defrauds, or grifts, or flip-flops. When he's misogynitic. What's he saying is "you too can do these things and get away with it".

People like that. People like that there's no accountability for bad behavior.

Sure, we can talk about policy, or economy, or whatever (how's that working out?) But deep down the democrats ask us to be the best version of ourselves (or else) and Republicans delight in us being the worst.

Human nature being what it is, we end up here. Just remember folks, we voted for this.

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by mindslight on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:20PM (#43635479)
Over the decades Trump has popped in and out of my attention like "oh, I guess that guy is still around". Yet from what I gather there have been people following him the whole time like he's someone important or worthwhile.

I think what it comes down to is that the average person in our society is just an aggressive basic shithead who isn't burdened by an abundance of thinking, and so to them Trump appears as a successful businessman rather than a hollow snake oil salesman.

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Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by kjreact on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:26PM (#43635580)
Never been proven? He’s been convicted of a crime already. Are there really HNers who only watch Fox News?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-05-30/bloomb...

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by mindcrime on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:43PM (#43635867)
> TDS is real,

No it isn't. It's just a hand-wavy way to say "this is no longer a serious conversation".

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by necessary on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:25PM (#43635553)
Can you illuminate the legitimate reasoning behind the OP then? If you have a claim that people have the wrong idea about Trump, then why not provide some of your own evidence?
Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:19PM (#43635457)
> no one has ever proved it

What? Trump University [1]. Atlantic City [2][3].

> any successful business person will have those in their portfolio

Most businesses don’t have this sort of widespread rap sheet. And most businesses aren’t headed by a felon.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/spin-deride-attack-h...

[2] https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump...

[3] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Rock_Hotel_%26_Casino_A...

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by dashundchen on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:24PM (#43635539)
The only TDS is the blind devotion his cult has, that lets them contort themselves into supporting anything the fascist con-artist spews out.

Not getting into the cryptocurrency rug-pull he just pulled during his inauguration 2 months ago.

Not even getting into his lie about election fraud.

Here's just a small smattering of the civil and legal judgements Trump has lost in regards to defrauding people.

> In December 2022, two entities of the Trump Organization were found guilty on 17 counts, including tax fraud and falsifying business records. The scheme involved providing executives with off-the-books perks to evade taxes

> In May 2024, Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. The charges were related to hush money payments made during his 2016 presidential campaign to conceal information.

> In February 2024, a New York judge ruled that Donald Trump and his companies had engaged in a years-long scheme to inflate his wealth on financial statements. The court imposed a $355 million penalty and barred Trump from serving in top roles at any New York company for three years

> In August 2022, Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization's former CFO, pleaded guilty to 15 felony charges, including grand larceny and tax fraud, admitting to a scheme that evaded taxes on $1.7 million in income.

> In November 2019, a New York state judge ordered Donald Trump to pay $2 million in damages for misusing the Trump Foundation's funds to further his political and business interests.

> Trump University, a for-profit real estate training program, faced multiple lawsuits alleging that it defrauded students by making false claims about the value of its courses and the involvement of Trump himself. In April 2018, a federal judge finalized a $25 million settlement to resolve these lawsuits

> Trump and his companies have been accused for decades of refusing to pay contractors, workers, and small businesses after work was completed

Re:Justice Dept. scales back crypto cases in line with Trump... by lolcatzlulz on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:26PM (#43635567)
My degree from Trump University can confirm this.

He has never committed "fraud", besides all those times he had to pay fines for committing fraud and settling class actions for fraud. But beyond that, he's fine. It's just TDS haters talking about "reality" and "facts".