Apple don't have linux drivers. It would be great if they wrote some, but it's never going to happen.
> Who is Asahi Lina? Is that an actual person?
The virtual persona of an actual person who has chosen to remain anonymous (hence the name which would be a crazy coincidence otherwise).
Man... if I was a conspiracy theorist who believed Apple was genuinely evil, what if Asahi Lina is an Apple employee? ;)
As I said, every time anything comes up about Asahi, it is guaranteed that at least two threads will occur. This and comment about the vTuber. At this point - 2 years after the project began - it adds little value to the conversation, to the extent that the project lead, who was previously very active here, doesn’t contribute anymore.
They are Canadian born, currently studying in Japan, so that explains some of the cultural mix.
This one.
Yes
> Is Asahi Linux named after her?
Other way around, it’s a pseudonym created to work on the project, IIRC Lina got involved early-mid 2022 while Hector Martin started the project in late 2020 / early 2021.
I feel like there's some fanboyism happening here. This person basically just joined the project.
From afar they also seem to have a pretty ebullient and infectious personality and to stream a lot (we're talking 10h streams every few days: https://www.youtube.com/@AsahiLina/streams) which is impressive work and dedication.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33292198
Please stop trolling on this topic. It's annoying to see every thread about Asahi Linux get dragged off topic like this.
I'd prefer if we kept to technical discussion in these posts personally.
That's really not what your posting history indicates. And bringing up the subject of "fanboyism" is pretty much the exact opposite; that's never going to take the conversation in a productive direction.
There's been a lot of speculation about this, but I haven't seen any damning evidence yet.
Asahi Linux has been upstreaming, but of course it's ongoing. The GPU driver in particular depends on some rust inside the kernel bits which aren't in the mainline kernel, yet. The 6.1 kernel has some Rust bits, 6.2 will have more, but I don't believe that will be enough for the GPU driver ... yet.
Check out the Asahi Lina channel to see what I mean.
Hololive functions in a similar way - the most popular members have their own subreddits in addition to the main hololive sub.
It’s not needed for guys apparently, but it’s not niche.
I watch Japanese vtubers quite a lot and enjoy doing so, but I couldn't personally listen to Lina as the voice sounds grating on the ears.
From what I have gleaned, vTuber is a virtual YouTuber. The streams use an anime model a s behaviour.
So we've no idea who it is.
And for some reason I feel creeped out now. There is something perturbing about the saccharin persona coupled with the pseudonym.
Like Pennywise (It) vibes?
Yes, basically instead of streaming as themselves vTubers stream as a persona, usually with an anime-style virtual avatar.
> And for some reason I feel creeped out now. There is something perturbing about the saccharin persona coupled with the pseudonym.
I've not found a vTuber I enjoyed (but the main vTuber community is japanese and japanese TV / entertainment is... a lot, and not my cup of tea).
However how is "Asahi Lina" and an animated cartoon avatar creepier than psychphysic and a random picture or manga snip on a forum 15 or 20 years ago? As far as I'm concerned it's the same principle moved from the media of text and images to that of audio and video.
That's a really good question and I only have a cop-out answer.
I'm not the type to get the creeps.
But the immediate thought I had and commented else where was of Pennywise.
Which is really quite alarming!
I think the core was that Asahi in my mind is quite infantilised and the realisation that the person behind the persona is quite likely to be adult man.
Nothing particularly predatory here, but there is still a feeling of a false sense of security.
What danger could an online persona possibly present to you? "[...]a false sense of security" implies there's a danger
One that evolved before the dinosaurs were wiped out.
I can only tell you my feelings, thoughts and emotions. Feel free to come up with a better explanation!
I think like with anything "new", life is always about disconfirming our biases. As a result, now that you're aware of this bias, have the additional time and can access System 2:
Going forward you find a way to have a less aggressive reaction to learning about a the next VTuber.
Unless this stuff goes entirely mainstream I will just avoid it.
This is the first time I've watched this kind of livestream and as well has as making my teeth itch with creepiness, not being an efficient means of conveying the topic it is boring.
I guess I'm older than the average HN user but I prefer reading to watching a video for education.
I am a woman in tech, and the whole thing feels slimy. I found it really creepy and couldn't watch more than a couple of minutes- I couldn't tolerate the voice changer for longer than that. But the whole concept is kinda gross because (as someone else pointed out below) the streamer is most likely an adult man, not a cute asian girl. And the persona is being performed for the benefit of other adult men.
I can't see why that makes it "kinda gross"; in fact, playing with identity and having the courage to do so in a whimsical way seems awesome. To have the security in oneself to put on a persona so different to the one we are in meatspace is one of the best inventiont of the 'net in my opinion. The possibilities are freeing.
On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
>And the persona is being performed for the benefit of other adult men.
What possible 'benefit' do they get out of it? Do we know if these "other adult men" leer at the persona? And if so, so what? So long as the person behind the persona isn't be harrassed. It's strange that this sentence is implicitly stating that something done for the benefit of adult men is wrong in itself.
Anime = Japanese cartoon style
To what upstream project?
However, just because Apple "runs linux" doesn't mean they "run linux" the way you are thinking. It's very easy for corporations to write slapdash, horrific, unmaintainable kernel forks that run on a specific piece of hardware. That's just fine when you are testing hardware before handing it to your OS team, but absolutely unacceptable for upstreaming.
For examples of this, take a look at old Android devices (and their ancient kernels), or the original Correlium port of Linux to Apple Silicon (which happened almost half a year before the Asahi Linux beta - but the code was sheer unmaintainable crap). Upstream it? Heck no - it would be rejected entirely and need almost a total rewrite from scratch. Just because you can write a functional driver doesn't mean it is anywhere close to a good, maintainable driver.
So, in a nutshell... yes, Apple does use Linux for early manufacturing tests. But it would almost certainly not be in a state where we could benefit much from it, and certain features would likely not be implemented. It's not anywhere near as simple as "Apple has done the work already - just upstream it please!"
Eh, I've heard the same thing form people I trust, and I'm not the Apple news version of deep throat or something. It's simply not a very well kept secret.
Although part of me wonders if the code will flow the other way. Now that marcan has put in the elbow grease to upstream concepts like 16KB pages, the non standard ordering for regular MMIO and PCI on Apple Silicon, etc, will Apple embrace those in their custom distro to avoid having so much un-upstreamed code? We'll probably never find out, but it's fun to think about.
Generally linux is happy unless you try to make pages smaller than 4kB,then all sorts of hell break lose in VFS
The rule is only, no macOS on non-Apple hardware.
What on earth are you talking about, iPads, iPhones and all other new devices from Apple outright lockout any kind of 3rd party OS from booting on them.
MacBooks are the only ones grandfathered into old behaviour of actually allowing 3rd party OSes (although they've also lost the ability to boot Windows in latest generation as well).
Apple doesn't really care about individual hackintoshers. Some of their devs have griped about the uselessness of stack traces and logs coming in from hackintoshed machines (bogus errors produced by slight hardware mismatches, drivers developed by amateur community members filling logs with garbage, etc) but they've never gone after anybody who was hackintoshing for personal use. There's even been fairly big YouTubers who've done it without issue, and back when Macs were Intel only and had abysmal thermals/performance a surprising number of Mac/iOS devs were using hackintoshes as their primary dev machines that they submitted to the App Store with.
Where they draw the line is selling hackintoshed machines or any of the tools to facilitate the process. Eliminate financial gain from the equation and you'll probably be fine.
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/1.Intro.html
> It is imperative that all code contributed to the kernel be legitimately free software.
> For that reason, code from anonymous (or pseudonymous) contributors will not be accepted.
> All contributors are required to “sign off” on their code, stating that the code can be distributed with the kernel under the GPL.
> Code which has not been licensed as free software by its owner, or which risks creating copyright-related problems for the kernel (such as code which derives from reverse-engineering efforts lacking proper safeguards) cannot be contributed.
If it is a gender identity decision, I still don't view it as malicious for the OP to ask. The context just isn't there in the blog post to make that clear.
I've followed Japanese vtubers for some time and that is CERTAINLY not the case. Vtubers are just aliases for the real person. And each person picks and chooses how much they blend their real lives into that alias.
There are even some vtubers that will have a camera facing on themselves while they stream as a vtuber (for example stream their body, but not their face) or will alternate streams between a vtuber persona and a real live camera or vtubers who stream as a vtuber but the real person behind the vtuber is an open secret (i.e. artists who engage in vtubing but sell artwork at comic conventions attending as a real person). There's a huge range and spectrum of ways people choose to do vtubing.
(Note: A lot of the latter cases are more possible in Japan because of the general social/legal concept there that taking pictures of people without their permission is at least extremely rude and sometimes also illegal if you don't blur their face when publishing it. This is helped by the fact that it's a legal requirement that all devices capable of taking photographs must make a photographing noise when doing so. For example on iPhone in Japan it is impossible to silence the shutter sound effect without modifying the device hardware.)
That's not a legal requirement, it's a carrier request.
> For example on iPhone in Japan it is impossible to silence the shutter sound effect without modifying the device hardware.
That now turns off once you take them out of the country though.
https://articles.inqk.net/2018/02/09/japan-iphone-shutter.ht...
> Also if it was a carrier reason, wouldn't the sound appear if you were roaming in Japan? It doesn't.
If it was geofenced you could disable it by putting it in airplane mode, so it's by purchase country instead. (On recent phones it does turn off if you leave Japan though.)
Apple's drivers are upstreamed, in Darwin. I'm not aware of any reason to believe that Apple has any Linux drivers that they could upstream.
Who is Asahi Lina? Is that an actual person?