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Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by dkdbejwi383 on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:50PM (#33790758)
And, sorry for continuing this thread, what is a "vTuber anime persona"?
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by wincy on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:58PM (#33790862)
It’s like a full time filter where the only online identity someone presents is as an anime girl. I think it was popularized by a company called HoloLive that has Japanese girls do this as a full time job? It’s a VERY niche culture thing.

Check out the Asahi Lina channel to see what I mean.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LonzMviFCNs

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by wilsonnb3 on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @01:52PM (#33791561)
Surprisingly it is not that niche anymore - for example, the hololive subreddit has 800,000 subscribers which is about half of the hockey subreddit.
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by masklinn on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @02:09PM (#33791756)
Do all subscribers to team subreddits follow the main sub as well though? Because I assume fans follow "their" teams' subreddit, and there's several in the 100k range.
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by wilsonnb3 on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @02:49PM (#33792321)
I think most fans subscribe to the "main" sub (r/hocket, nba, baseball, etc) for general league news and discussion in addition to team subs.

Hololive functions in a similar way - the most popular members have their own subreddits in addition to the main hololive sub.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by astrange on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:01PM (#33792481)
Ironmouse is the most popular female streamer on Twitch (by subs). Pekora is in the top 5 most watched female streamers worldwide (by viewer-hours).

It’s not needed for guys apparently, but it’s not niche.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by mlindner on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @06:56PM (#33795075)
Yes but none of them are using voice changing that makes it hard to listen to. They all speak in their natural voices or with a natural manual affect that they prefer to put on, something that computers don't seem to be able to replicate yet.

I watch Japanese vtubers quite a lot and enjoy doing so, but I couldn't personally listen to Lina as the voice sounds grating on the ears.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by rowanG077 on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @04:14PM (#33793406)
It doesn't have to be a anime girl. There are also a few male vtubers. Bubi and Lord Aethalstan beeing examples.
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by psychphysic on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:59PM (#33790882)
One of those threads where you comment and more questions are raised that feel almost irrelevant.

From what I have gleaned, vTuber is a virtual YouTuber. The streams use an anime model a s behaviour.

So we've no idea who it is.

And for some reason I feel creeped out now. There is something perturbing about the saccharin persona coupled with the pseudonym.

Like Pennywise (It) vibes?

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by masklinn on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @02:06PM (#33791731)
> From what I have gleaned, vTuber is a virtual YouTuber. The streams use an anime model a s behaviour.

Yes, basically instead of streaming as themselves vTubers stream as a persona, usually with an anime-style virtual avatar.

> And for some reason I feel creeped out now. There is something perturbing about the saccharin persona coupled with the pseudonym.

I've not found a vTuber I enjoyed (but the main vTuber community is japanese and japanese TV / entertainment is... a lot, and not my cup of tea).

However how is "Asahi Lina" and an animated cartoon avatar creepier than psychphysic and a random picture or manga snip on a forum 15 or 20 years ago? As far as I'm concerned it's the same principle moved from the media of text and images to that of audio and video.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by psychphysic on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @02:23PM (#33791949)
> However how is "Asahi Lina" and an animated cartoon avatar creepier than psychphysic and a random picture or manga snip on a forum 15 or 20 years ago?

That's a really good question and I only have a cop-out answer.

I'm not the type to get the creeps.

But the immediate thought I had and commented else where was of Pennywise.

Which is really quite alarming!

I think the core was that Asahi in my mind is quite infantilised and the realisation that the person behind the persona is quite likely to be adult man.

Nothing particularly predatory here, but there is still a feeling of a false sense of security.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by sangnoir on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @02:51PM (#33792337)
> Nothing particularly predatory here, but there is still a feeling of a false sense of security.

What danger could an online persona possibly present to you? "[...]a false sense of security" implies there's a danger

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by psychphysic on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:21PM (#33792728)
There's no point thinking of this as a cognition the pilomotor response is a reflex.

One that evolved before the dinosaurs were wiped out.

I can only tell you my feelings, thoughts and emotions. Feel free to come up with a better explanation!

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by yazaddaruvala on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @08:02PM (#33795559)
I think any first reaction is always an entirely fair first reaction. Biases exist. Snap judgements exist. No point in pretending otherwise.

I think like with anything "new", life is always about disconfirming our biases. As a result, now that you're aware of this bias, have the additional time and can access System 2:

Going forward you find a way to have a less aggressive reaction to learning about a the next VTuber.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by psychphysic on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:26AM (#33798988)
I almost certainly won't.

Unless this stuff goes entirely mainstream I will just avoid it.

This is the first time I've watched this kind of livestream and as well has as making my teeth itch with creepiness, not being an efficient means of conveying the topic it is boring.

I guess I'm older than the average HN user but I prefer reading to watching a video for education.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by sjf on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @06:46PM (#33795004)
I feel like I am going to regret this post, but anyway...

I am a woman in tech, and the whole thing feels slimy. I found it really creepy and couldn't watch more than a couple of minutes- I couldn't tolerate the voice changer for longer than that. But the whole concept is kinda gross because (as someone else pointed out below) the streamer is most likely an adult man, not a cute asian girl. And the persona is being performed for the benefit of other adult men.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by claudiawerner on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @09:11AM (#33800968)
>the streamer is most likely an adult man, not a cute asian girl

I can't see why that makes it "kinda gross"; in fact, playing with identity and having the courage to do so in a whimsical way seems awesome. To have the security in oneself to put on a persona so different to the one we are in meatspace is one of the best inventiont of the 'net in my opinion. The possibilities are freeing.

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

>And the persona is being performed for the benefit of other adult men.

What possible 'benefit' do they get out of it? Do we know if these "other adult men" leer at the persona? And if so, so what? So long as the person behind the persona isn't be harrassed. It's strange that this sentence is implicitly stating that something done for the benefit of adult men is wrong in itself.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by hoppyhoppy2 on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:57PM (#33790857)
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by bogeholm on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:56PM (#33790837)
vTuber = virtual YouTuber (YouTube as genericized term for “video platform”, as in Xerox for copying)

Anime = Japanese cartoon style