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Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by dghlsakjg on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:30PM (#33127650)
The cat is out of the bag.

There is no way that people are going to stop putting AirTags in their luggage, at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage and fighting people on reimbursement.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by aliqot on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:35PM (#33127685)
I do see how they'd find it bothersome. Imagine what it must be like that the situation before was: "Oh no my baggage is lost!" "Oooh that's rough! We'll let ya know!" then nothing.

Where now what it might be like is: "Oh no my baggage is lost at XYZ airport at your terminal" and that accountability is somewhat forced now because they can't just say it wasn't found or it is 'in transit' when it really isn't.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by FredPret on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:36PM (#33127700)
So inconvenient for them to do what they were contracted to do: fly you and your luggage from A to B. Can’t they just get free money?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by aliqot on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:42PM (#33127767)
You might get money for your troubles if your flight or luggage is delayed. For luggage being lost the maximum liability is $3,800 for domestic flights and about $1,800 for international flights

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/19/what-travelers-need-to-know-...

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by harha on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:49PM (#33127876)
In theory yes, but in practice it could easily cost you more to deal with the airline and it might well be that you don’t have the receipts anymore.

With another European airline I recently waited exactly one day less than the three weeks required for them to deliver a child seat. That’s almost three weeks of not having one to safely transport my child, no support or compensation. Since I was returning to my country of residence the credit card company also didn’t refund.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by HWR_14 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:31PM (#33128250)
> That’s almost three weeks of not having one to safely transport my child, no support or compensation.

Why not just buy a new one and charge the airline for it?

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by crooked-v on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:42PM (#33128345)
Charge... how?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:54PM (#33129122)
Small claims court?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by airstrike on Saturday October 08, 2022 @12:48AM (#33129845)
Who has time for that?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by harha on Saturday October 08, 2022 @02:03AM (#33130177)
Also at least in Germany you risk the costs with no compensation for taking that risk.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by HWR_14 on Saturday October 08, 2022 @12:57PM (#33133922)
At least in the US they have to repay you for items purchased to temporarily replace items in delayed luggage- subject to reasonable costs and a total limit.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by harha on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:13PM (#33128906)
They won't compensate you unless the luggage hasn't been delivered within three weeks. Even then they'll put up a battle and make you go through a bunch of forms and hotlines, request receipts that you might not have anymore etc.

For a baby car seat, probably not worth it. For other things it might be but the receipt is missing etc.

At the end it's a damage you have to face for them not doing their job right.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by thaumasiotes on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:28PM (#33128230)
> and it might well be that you don’t have the receipts anymore.

That seems pretty unlikely; the receipts now go to your email where you'd have to delete them intentionally.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by leipert on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:06PM (#33128493)
Cash? Clothes? I don’t keep receipts for every pair of jeans I own.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by aobdev on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:10PM (#33128514)
Receipts for the personal items that the airline lost, not for the airfare. You need to prove how much your damages are in order to make a claim.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by hasel on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:02PM (#33128844)
Is there anything to stop me from pulling receipts for something I didn’t actually put in my luggage?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by mindslight on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:05PM (#33128866)
Your damages are what you had to spend on all the new items you had to buy for your trip, to replace the items they failed to deliver. You buy new clothes (etc), keep the receipts, and turn those in for reimbursement. At least this is how it worked a decade ago when my luggage was "lost" for a US domestic flight.

In my case, I think they deliberately bumped my bag for paying cargo, because they saw my billing address was near the destination airport and assumed I would be fine "at home". They didn't know I was going to a wedding, and that said wedding was several hours drive away, so delivering my bag a day late to the destination airport wouldn't end the problem. They still paid out though.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by thaumasiotes on Saturday October 08, 2022 @05:35AM (#33131000)
aobdev's idea of reimbursement doesn't work in either direction. The price you paid for something is only weakly connected to the thing's current value. But your damages are equal to whatever the current value is. If you bought a painting for $20 and it's appreciated to $15,000, you're owed $15,000 when someone destroys it. If you bought a suit for $2,000 and it's more moth-hole than cloth and it's been through a few paintball fights, you're not owed $2,000 when someone destroys it.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by harha on Saturday October 08, 2022 @05:49AM (#33131050)
There’s an easy solution: the airline automatically owes the maximum amount. This would save everyone much time and put some burden back with the airliner (by potentially paying more than the customer had, though at around USD 1800 it should be quite even, especially once you consider the time spent to get your money back)

You already need to insure higher values anyway if you want to be entitled to a reimbursement, so this would set a nice minimum that encourages customer friendly behavior.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by twelvechairs on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:43PM (#33127793)
Every job, every person, every industry mistakes happen. You can minimise them with better systems but its never going to disappear
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by yamtaddle on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:44PM (#33127809)
The ones that don't suck are happy if you can help them fix their error, though.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by polynomial on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:52PM (#33127914)
Don't bother us, we're trying to help you.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by tomjen3 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:12PM (#33128092)
You can minimise them by making mistakes expensive.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by dghlsakjg on Monday October 10, 2022 @02:30PM (#33154854)
Yes. But not every industry gets the benefit of a nationally legislated liability limit on their mistakes.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by endgame on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:35PM (#33128291)
You're thinking of the frequent flyer programs. An airline, via its FF program, is a proprietary central bank that sometimes flies people (and occasionally, even their luggage!) from A to B.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by ornornor on Saturday October 08, 2022 @03:19AM (#33130467)
Didn’t really understand that until I read an article about it.

The frequent flyer program is oftentimes worth more than the airline, and it’s a currency with no rules where the airline can do pretty much whatever they want with its value. It’s insane.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by thepasswordis on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:23PM (#33128604)
Oh no! Our management/efficiency consultants have value engineered our labor practices to the point of extreme fragility!

Maybe hiring more McKinsey consultants can fix it!

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by rowanG077 on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:40PM (#33127742)
My heart breaks for them. They have to do the job they should have been doing in the first place.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by dudul on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:14PM (#33128101)
How is it bothersome? People are doing their job and telling them where the bag is. They should be happy when customers go the extra mile to fix their broken system.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by teddyh on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:35PM (#33128290)
It’s not broken for them.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by balderdash on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:24PM (#33128190)
FWIW I showed an AA baggage customer service rep the location of my bag (within 200ft of where we were standing), the response I got was, “that’s nice, we’ll get you your bag when we get you your bag” - so while it’s nice to know where your bag is, the airlines will continue to not care until there are financial consequences for not delivering as promised.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by 93po on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:26PM (#33129291)
I'd call the police in that situation
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by balderdash on Sunday October 09, 2022 @04:35PM (#33145067)
So they can take a report?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by 93po on Sunday October 09, 2022 @05:48PM (#33145644)
So they can ignore the call entirely
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by ncmncm on Saturday October 08, 2022 @12:14AM (#33129740)
AA is the worst. I would be here all day if I were to explain all the things they did on a single flight, NY to Akron. I rented a car and drove home, so not to expose myself to that again. Have not flown AA since.

Now JetBlue codeshares with AA. Worried.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by rconti on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:40PM (#33127751)
I get that it's inconvenient and could be used nefariously. I'm not sure what kinds of worker protections airline staff have in Europe, but I can see why it might be problematic that I'm tracking the employee as they drive their van full of lost luggage to my hotel.

Still, it's my stuff, so I'm going to keep putting AirTags in every bag I travel with. I'm sorry, but.. what are they going to do? Ban me from the airline?

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by svnpenn on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:44PM (#33127804)
> I'm sorry, but.. what are they going to do? Ban me from the airline?

Um, yeah.

why do you think that you're special, and that you can blatantly ignore the rules? I don't agree with the rule, but if you brazenly ignore it, and they catch you, they have every right to ban you from future flights. Just look at what they did with the mask people who started trouble. Bam, permaban from flights. You wanna push your luck go ahead, but don't cry if it happens to you.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by rconti on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:05PM (#33128045)
Why do you think I think I'm special? I simply think we're all humans, with basic rights, such as being able to keep tabs on our personal property, within reason-- which, surely, a small, light, unobtrusive tracker that has no known problematic failure modes, and which contains a battery that is within the checked baggage limits comports with?

I made no suggestion that I should be able to shirk the rules while everyone else deserves to get caught.

You're welcome to point and laugh at me if Lufthansa bans me and I have to stop putting AirTags in my bags so as not to be banned by other airlines, should they choose to adopt such an anti-consumer stance as well.

I have no real issue with taking a calculated risk, the kinds of calculated risks we take all day every day. Surely you don't carefully read the terms of carriage on every airline ticket you purchase. I know I don't. I trust that the market will more or less treat us reasonably, and if one vendor does not, I can find another which does.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by cardiffspaceman on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:17PM (#33128131)
The two obvious counters to your initial claims:

> unobtrusive tracker that has no known problematic failure modes, and which contains a battery that is within the checked baggage limits comports with?

You generally are not allowed to carry lithium batteries in checked baggage. So your phone's lithium battery is not a problem as long as it's in your pocket.

The failure mode you forgot is "sets fire to itself and other objects."

The "AWAY" bags that used to be on all the YouTube videos and which had charging banks had to have a way to pluck the charging bank off the bag if the bags were gate-checked. (Applies to other brands too).

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by StrictDabbler on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:28PM (#33128229)
The battery in an AirTag is a standard CR2032 button cell, such as you'll find in thermometers, car keys, or similar small devices. Lithium batteries in checked luggage are limited to 0.3g. A CR2032 has 0.1g. It cannot start a fire while in the AirTag any more than your car keys can.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by gruez on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:25PM (#33128200)
>You generally are not allowed to carry lithium batteries in checked baggage

Mind linking to the relevant regulations that say that? The ones that I turned up[1] says that batteries are fine as long as they're in an installed device.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33128125

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by matthewmacleod on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:26PM (#33128205)
You generally are not allowed to carry lithium batteries in checked baggage. So your phone's lithium battery is not a problem as long as it's in your pocket.

This is absolutely not true – guidelines from e.g. FAA and IATA are extremely clear that devices are permitted in both checked and carry-on baggage. There are some restrictions around bare cells, e-cigarettes etc. but for the most part these devices are no problem.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by KerrAvon on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:47PM (#33127840)
Look at the actual cases, though. You had to be really aggro to get the permaban instead of just getting walked off the flight with a warning. IMHO, they were not aggressive enough.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by woah on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:30PM (#33128245)
If we start allowing airtags in luggage, who knows what's next?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by fshbbdssbbgdd on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:20PM (#33128158)
What, do the baggage handlers at Lufthansa have free time to go searching for AirTags?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by HWR_14 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:34PM (#33128277)
> do the baggage handlers at Lufthansa have free time to go searching for AirTags?

"Detect airtags nearby" is an app you can download.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by yreg on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:52PM (#33127913)
They cannot ban all of us.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by svnpenn on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:55PM (#33127940)
yeah, they really can. Flights are a sellers market, they run near empty flights often. Plus less people are using AirTags than you think.

Again, I think its a dumb rule. But don't think you are special and can just ignore it forever with no consequences.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by rconti on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:00PM (#33127989)
I suspect I'm misreading your comment. You say "they run near empty flights often", which is not true based on current load factor data, at least in the US[1]; it's as high as ever.

But you also say "it's a sellers market" which would imply high demand where they can afford to lose a few passengers (which would be true based on basic economics). So I suspect this is what you intended to say, unless I'm really misunderstanding something.

1. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LOADFACTOR

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by counttheforks on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:17PM (#33128133)
Why do you feel the need to defend large companies when you don't even agree with them? It's a fascinating phenomenon.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by recursive on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:02PM (#33128017)
> run near empty flights often

This is kind of amazing to hear. Roughly the last 10 flights I've been on have been completely full.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by seanp2k2 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:22PM (#33128172)
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by Zigurd on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:04PM (#33128478)
Consumer-facing rules need credibility to have effect. Airlines have squandered customer trust for decades.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by xwdv on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:04PM (#33128035)
I don’t think you’ve thought this through.

If they find out you put an air tag in your luggage they’ll report you for having lithium batteries in your luggage and push to have you placed on Do Not Fly lists. Now you cannot fly ANY airline for the rest of your life. You will never travel anywhere by air again, unless you have some kind of private plane. Basically, you’re SCREWED for the rest of your life.

Is that what you want?

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by rconti on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:10PM (#33128075)
I am not sure what's with the tone of this comment, it seems a lot like a teacher who once told me I'd never be able to get a job if I put my feet on my desk, but, here I am.

(26) Baggage equipped with lithium battery(ies) must be carried as carry-on baggage unless the battery(ies) is removed from the baggage. Removed battery(ies) must be carried in accordance with the provision for spare batteries prescribed in paragraph (a)(18) of this section. The provisions of this paragraph do not apply to baggage equipped with lithium batteries not exceeding:

(i) For lithium metal batteries, a lithium content of 0.3 grams; or

(ii) For lithium ion batteries, a Watt-hour rating of 2.7 Wh.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-I/s...

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by hdevalence on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:32PM (#33128261)
For reference, a typical CR2032 has 0.1g lithium metal content and ~0.6Wh capacity.

https://data.energizer.com/pdfs/cr2032.pdf

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by gruez on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:15PM (#33128125)
1. you could always use the "oops, must have forgotten the airtag from my last trip :^)" excuse

2. The relevant authorities[1][2] seem to say that batteries in checked luggage is fine as long as it's in install equipment, so you're not violating any regulations that would get you reported.

[1] https://www.iata.org/contentassets/6fea26dd84d24b26a7a1fd578...

[2] https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/lithium-batteries-baggage

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by golem14 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:12PM (#33128089)
Do the AirTags have lithium ion cells?

I thought they have the no explosive cr2032 or thereabouts…

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by MobiusHorizons on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:41PM (#33128330)
cr2032 are lithium, but not usually the same chemistry as rechargeable lithium ion. (side note, some cr2032 cells for use as battery backup for realtime clocks are actually rechargeable, which is pretty cool) However, as the sibling comment says, they are allowed because there is a threshold below which batteries are allowed.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by seanp2k2 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:23PM (#33128188)
a cr2032 is an example of a "lithium primary cell" meaning it's not rechargable, whereas "lithium ion" is rechargeable https://www.mpoweruk.com/lithiumP.htm
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by ipython on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:47PM (#33128376)
I don’t see why it’s problematic to see where your bag is. The employee isn’t driving from their home with your luggage- and if they were, there are bigger problems.

You have a point where he may make multiple stops which may include the personal addresses of folks also on your flight. But I can’t imagine you have enough ability to match a person with an address this way.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by chrisseaton on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:49PM (#33127871)
> at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage

Does that actually happen to people still? I thought it was just a 90s meme. I get a push notification every time they move my bag anywhere. 'Accepted into the system', 'loaded onto the plane', 'unloaded off the plane', 'popped out at the carousel'. Seems pretty bullet proof these days.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by dghlsakjg on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:55PM (#33127937)
American Airlines self-reported a baggage mishandling rate just short of 1% this year. That seems really high to be honest, when you consider that most planes have a minimum of 150 passengers.

2022 was an anomalous year since the airlines ramped up their schedules without having support staff at the airports to handle it. The statistics seem to indicate a tripling of lost luggage rates.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by whatever1 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:13PM (#33128100)
For international trips this is close to 10%.

My math professor is flying once a month to Europe from the US for the past 20 years. He told me about this statistic he built from his trip history and I thought he was exaggerating.

On my 10th trans-Atlantic trip of course I lost my luggage.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by chrisseaton on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:47PM (#33128380)
So on a typical 747 flight 40 people will have their luggage lost when we get to the reclaim? That seems really improbably high. How come I don't see hundreds of people standing around getting angry at the belt?

At Heathrow, it'd mean 20,000+ people a day with lost luggage (if they all checked luggage). You'd need more than the entire taxi fleet of London to get their luggage to their hotels.

Really doesn't pass a common-sense check.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by matwood on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:11PM (#33128529)
Bags are lost often enough there’s a charity selling the bags that never get claimed.

https://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/pages/how-it-works

They say a 3 month search, but if you read around you’ll see 5+ days and your bag is basically gone. They say .03% of all checked bags end up lost and then unclaimed. How many must get lost to reach that unclaimed number?

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by StopHammoTime on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:22PM (#33128599)
It could be as high as 10% if you have a connecting flight, maybe? I’ve been fortunate enough to always fly direct and never had any lost baggage. I’ve always assumed direct is fine, it’s once you start transferring loads across different flights and codeshare carriers it starts to do awry.
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Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by chrisseaton on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:40PM (#33129046)
Of course - but it's an indication of the ludicrous scale.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by Zigurd on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:09PM (#33128512)
Two "nines." Not acceptable in most products/services.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by HWR_14 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:38PM (#33128314)
Asia and the US have a much better track record than Europe. Like, your bag is 5-8x more likely to get lost in Europe.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by superhuzza on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:20PM (#33128161)
It's been a big issue in the UK for the last few months, as airports struggled to find enough baggage handlers. So luggage was getting left all over, massive buildups, effectively "lost" until they have enough manpower to process it all.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by WirelessGigabit on Saturday October 08, 2022 @01:06AM (#33129919)
Nah. They didn’t have issues finding baggage handlers. They couldn’t find enough baggage handlers for the low wage they were offering.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by Moto7451 on Friday October 07, 2022 @07:05PM (#33128044)
It still happens. In a lot of cases they find it and go through some efforts to deliver the luggage to where you’re staying.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by matwood on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:14PM (#33128547)
> through some efforts to deliver the luggage

I was in Greece once dealing with lost luggage. The airline threw it on a ferry and told me to run on and look/grab my bag when it got to the island I was on. I guess that’s some effort lol

And, this time I had AirTags in my bags which ended up being super useful for tracking.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by aaaaaaaaaaab on Friday October 07, 2022 @06:58PM (#33127964)
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by matwood on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:05PM (#33128482)
It’s happened enough to me flying intl, that I refuse to check now. One time FinAir lost my bags for so long, I was thinking they were gone forever.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by meroes on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:05PM (#33128487)
It happens and just like the meme they drive it hours to you once found, even across states. Just happened my sister and brother in law who had trained to another state by the time theirs was found.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by ajmurmann on Friday October 07, 2022 @08:38PM (#33128712)
I visited Germany in July. At the time Frankfurt airport was a huge mess.

https://newsrnd.com/business/2022-07-08-travel-chaos--5-000-...

Edit: improved source and removed misleading numbers from previous article

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by balderdash on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:07PM (#33128880)
Antidotally my personal delayed luggage rate is about 15% (~100 segments a year, checking bags on about 1/5th of those)
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by thecosmicfrog on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:21PM (#33128938)
I'm not sure what airlines you're flying with, but I've never gotten any notifications like this - in the US or Europe.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by chrisseaton on Friday October 07, 2022 @09:45PM (#33129081)
United does it, for example. You need the app. I'm sure other airlines do it as well?
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by google234123 on Friday October 07, 2022 @10:13PM (#33129231)
AA does.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by thecosmicfrog on Saturday October 08, 2022 @07:58AM (#33131580)
Huh. In the last few weeks I've travelled with AA, Southwest, Ryanair, Aer Lingus and Lufthansa, and never got any baggage updates in their apps.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by google234123 on Sunday October 09, 2022 @06:30PM (#33145942)
Maybe it’s only at specific airports? I was notified in the app
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by shepherdjerred on Saturday October 08, 2022 @01:35AM (#33130035)
> at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage and fighting people on reimbursement.

Hah, if you're in the United States you should be fine. Federal law forces the airlines to reimburse you, even for just delayed baggage [0].

Last year my bag was delayed a few days on a trip to the mountains. My airline paid the cost to replace all of the clothing and other material in my bag. I think it ended up being ~$2100 worth. I bought items comparable to what I had brought, e.g. a lot of high-quality thermal clothing, some board games, chargers, etc, and I got to keep all of it.

[0]: https://www.transportation.gov/lost-delayed-or-damaged-bagga...

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by INTPenis on Saturday October 08, 2022 @04:57AM (#33130857)
Just wait until an airtag lithium battery catches fire in the cargo hold.
Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by dghlsakjg on Saturday October 08, 2022 @01:30PM (#33134238)
AirTags use lithium button cells which are not really a fire risk when compared to a lithium polymer cell like in your cell phone.

Enough of a mitigated safety risk that the CR2032 that the AirTag uses is small enough to be exempted from the lithium battery rules.

Re:Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage by Eric_WVGG on Saturday October 08, 2022 @08:55AM (#33131929)
I’ve got a friend who is doing a lot of travel to Russia due to her father having some medical problems, so I bought her an AirTag for her luggage.

On her first flight home, she missed her flight, but her luggage “made it.” She was able to track the bag all the way to the American West Coast, and apparently the workers at the airport even found it helpful in the “last mile” of retrieving the bag.

On her second flight, Lufthansa lost the bag on a flight to Helsinki. They were apparently huge dcks about it, but again she was able to accurately track and eventually retrieve it.

AirTags are one of those devices that really surpass their advertised usefulness. I’m encouraging everyone I know who travels to get some.

I do wonder about the workers who must be getting those automated “yo a tracker is following you” anti-stalking messages on their iPhones, though.