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Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by abraxas on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @09:11AM (#33079817)
Unfortunately geolocking isn't new or unique to the pure bits movie format. DVDs were regionally locked as well and even analog media like VHS tapes used color encoding formats that were specific in different regions (NTSC vs PAL vs SECAM).

That said, the situation is quite a bit worse now as the modern DRM is harder to circumvent and geolocking more granular than ever before. But the intent to lock us down was always there from the movie industry, just not the capability until recently.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by the_af on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @09:31AM (#33080085)
> DVDs were regionally locked as well

To be fair, those of us who tend to complain about these things also raised hell about DVDs back then. Geo-locking is such an obviously bad idea for consumers. It was such a relief when the restrictions were hacked away (was it that an encryption key got leaked? I don't remember the details).

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by barelysapient on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @09:59AM (#33080489)
And let's not forget, that if you brought your DVD player with you, you could still play your DVD's no matter what region you were physically in.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by makeitdouble on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:37AM (#33081017)
Except if your player wasn't conpatible with your TV of course.

At the time DVD started prolifering more and more player and TVs had full support for NTSC, PAL and SECAM, but you could still be stuck with some hardware only supporting standard and your DVDs would be black and white or scrambled on the display side.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by babypuncher on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @07:02PM (#33088338)
Support for multiple analog signal formats did not become common on TVs until people started moving away from CRTs and towards flat panel LCDs and plasmas. This transition lasted a pretty long time, as both LCD and plasma presented numerous drawbacks compared to CRTs (LCDs arguably still do), and CRTs were still very cost-effective even well into the '00s.

Adding support for signals used in other regions to an analog CRT display meant adding more circuitry, so this feature was largely relegated to very high end sets and professional video monitors.

With digital flat panels, those analog signals were now being captured with an analog-to-digital converter. How to translate the sequence of numbers representing a formerly analog signal into something usable by the panel could now be defined in software, or even very compact digital hardware. This makes it more cost-effective to just produce one version of the decoder that works in all regions.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by tjoff on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:55AM (#33082234)
True in theory but in practice it wasn't much of an issue.

Especially as late as when the DVD came.

And the purpose of it wasn't geo-restrictions either.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by makeitdouble on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @05:29AM (#33093151)
The impact might differ a lot depending on your region and where your interests are.

Living in the SECAM region and wanting to watch US/british stuff makes it a lot more prominent issue that if you're in the PAL or NTSC area for instance.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:35AM (#33080982)
And if you ordered a disc from abroad, you could completely legally import a disc player from, say, the UK and play your region-locked Blu-ray Discs and DVDs that way (and still can, eBay.co.uk works fine). It's inconvenient but it does work, and is 100% legal and hack-free.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by ipaddr on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:51AM (#33082168)
Or buy a worldwide player like Philips offered in the day that would play all regions
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by mixmastamyk on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:46AM (#33082077)
Power, tv, and plugs different.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by wpietri on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @01:51PM (#33084057)
Overall I think geo-locking was bad, but I wouldn't go this far:

> Geo-locking is such an obviously bad idea for consumers.

Depends a little on the consumers, really. Region-locking enabled them to sell cheaper copies in lower-wealth areas, the same way that movie ticket prices were lower. Without geo-locking, pricing strategy gets much more complicated, but it's a fair guess that consumers in regions 3-6 (that is, the majority of humanity) would have either paid more or gotten movies later.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by account42 on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:30AM (#33150489)
> Without geo-locking, pricing strategy gets much more complicated, but it's a fair guess that consumers in regions 3-6 (that is, the majority of humanity) would have either paid more or gotten movies later.

You are missing the most likely option: they would have "pirated" those movies. So again, the geo-locking is not realy for the good of the consumer but to ensure every last bit of profit can be extracted.

Meanwhile, the main thing selling things cheaper to designated poor reason does is keep those regions from demanding fair payment for their work thus making them no longer poor regions that can be exploited.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by babypuncher on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @06:55PM (#33088265)
People complained, but I can't imagine the user experience of playing an NTSC DVD on a PAL player and TV would have been very good, or vice-versa. There isn't a clean way to convert between 50 and 59.94 fields per second. You would have ended up with either jittery playback or incorrect playback speed. The field sizes are also mismatched, which would have required some pretty gross scaling given late-'90s DVD player technology.

Region-locking on Blu-Ray is 100% unnecessary. Fortunately, it has become increasingly common for discs to ship with no region restrictions.

Of course all of this is moot when you're just slapping that disc in an optical drive and ripping it to a NAS, instead of using an "official" player.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by account42 on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:32AM (#33150506)
Even for DVDs, the region locking also applied to computer drives (which typically only had a limited number of region changes) where NTSC vs. PAL were not a concern.

Also, a 1.2x playback speed for the video is not even that noticeable - certainly a much better experience than no video. I intentially watch a lot of video contents sped up like that, even movies sometimes. Audio needs processing though to not pitch shift.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @09:41AM (#33080219)
DVD has an incredibly weak 40-bit encryption scheme due to US regulations on exporting cryptography when it was developed. As a result, it was broken very quickly after launch. It has no real key revocation system (just stop including keys for certain defeated devices in new releases), and nowadays a computer can brute-force every possible decryption key within seconds, rendering revoking stolen drive keys completely pointless. As the region lock is enforced by software only, an unofficial player like VLC does not need to pay the region lock any heed.

Blu-ray on the other hand... well, where do I start? 128-bit AES, key revocation, host authentication, virtual machine fixup tables, digital signing, Media Key Block updating, Java applications... Let's just say Blu-ray is stuck in an odd place where the underlying technology isn't really that defeated, even though hackers have made keeping up with their stolen device keys from hacked players very impractical for the Blu-ray Disc Association. (Revoking a drive key requires a 90-day heads up for manufacturers to roll out new keys for the effected model, which means that if hackers manage to steal 4 device keys per year... from over a decade and a half of different players, many not receiving updates anymore...)

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by sbf501 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:25AM (#33081700)
DeCSS was "cracked" because Xing accidentally included an unencrypted key in their firmware.

The encryption wasn't cracked, it was subverted by poor security practices.

If Xing hadn't screwed up, it may have been another decade before it was possible to rip a DVD, waiting for some other manufacturer to screw up.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by pdntspa on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:47AM (#33082099)
I had friends running timing attacks against the Xbox 360 encryption key around that time, they never publicly disclosed their work but I saw them playing games on a hacked firmware around mid 2000s. No reason to think this wouldn't be the same for the CSS encryption key.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by josteink on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @09:46AM (#33080290)
> Blu-ray on the other hand... well, where do I start? 128-bit AES, key revocation, host authentication, virtual machine fixup tables, digital signing, Media Key Block updating, Java applications...

It would almost seem like most of the engineering for the Blu-ray format went into things which very specifically doesn’t act in the interest of the buyer.

Given the current state of things, I wouldn’t count Blurays as media you actually physically own.

You’re permitted to watch them, for now, but there’s no guarantee that will remain true 20+ years in the future.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by nonrandomstring on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:23AM (#33080801)
> It would almost seem like most of the engineering for the Blu-ray format went into things which very specifically doesn’t act in the interest of the buyer.

It doesn't seem like that. It is like that.

Welcome to modern tech, where the management, perception, control and tactical destruction of real value is the only place left to eek out a profit margin. We build 8 core CPUs and blow e-fuses in the factory to make them 4 cores. As resources dwindle and the planet fills with e-waste this disgusting, unethical wanton destruction of value continues because we've normalised it.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by kortilla on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:27AM (#33081732)
> We build 8 core CPUs and blow e-fuses in the factory to make them 4 cores. As resources dwindle and the planet fills with e-waste this disgusting, unethical wanton destruction of value continues because we've normalised it.

This is a bad follow-on example because artificial price differentiation is sometimes what it takes to make a business viable. Making an actually worse model in the processor case has far more fixed costs than re-using the existing pipeline. The business wouldn’t be viable selling all of the processors at lower nor would it be as strong leaving out the lower income segment.

The alternative world is you get no affordable processor at all and the 8-core version costs 200% more due to the volume lost.

Finally, this ignores that processors selected for lower tiers can be chosen precisely because they didn’t meet the bar for the high performance batch. So if they had proceeded to treat it as an 8-core it would have had thermal issues and an 80% reduced life.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by ipaddr on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:56AM (#33082242)
In your scene you would see increased buying and volume at the higher price point which would offset the money lost at the lower tier.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by goodpoint on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @12:13PM (#33082507)
> The alternative world is you get no affordable processor at all and the 8-core version costs 200% more due to the volume lost.

No, you are making up a false dichotomy. There are many alternative worlds, including the ones where CPUs have no proprietary "intellectual property".

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by ambicapter on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:39AM (#33081944)
> artificial price differentiation is sometimes what it takes to make a business viable

Sometimes wage theft is what it takes to make a business viable, so I don't really buy this as an argument.

> processors selected for lower tiers can be chosen precisely because they didn’t meet the bar for the high performance batch

This is a better argument

> The alternative world is you get no affordable processor at all

You probably do, just maybe their performance doesn't double every year. I would say that's probably an interesting tradeoff to make, depending on how catastrophic one thinks the state of the world is today.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by jaywalk on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:44AM (#33082045)
If binning of CPUs were disallowed, it would result in even more e-waste because any imperfect chips would have to be tossed out instead of sold with fewer cores enabled. Bad example.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by account42 on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:15AM (#33150375)
binning != intentionally crippling working silicon to meet quotas of binned parts
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by NoGravitas on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @02:26PM (#33084597)
>Welcome to modern tech, where the management, perception, control and tactical destruction of real value is the only place left to eek out a profit margin.

It's almost as if there's a consistent economic process that leads companies to do this kind of thing again and again. We could call it "the tendency of the rate of profit to fall".

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by nonrandomstring on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @03:40PM (#33085637)
Consistency may be running out. It may be time to turn this elegant observation (not immutable law) into an anti-pattern. As an optimist I prefer "tendency of systems toward failure of innovation" (AKA sloth of the entrenched incumbents). This is the last crisis. Because it's not a crisis of capital, it's a crisis of the very substrate (the planet) which allows for the possibility of capital. Schumpeter's creative destruction is now literally environmental destruction. A new broom is required. Let's hope it's not the communists again. A few simple bits of regulation could go a long way to correct things.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by Gordonjcp on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @12:16PM (#33082548)
> We build 8 core CPUs and blow e-fuses in the factory to make them 4 cores.

Not "deliberately". We build 8-core CPUs, discover four of them are a bit sub-spec, and blow e-fuses to disable those and sell it as 4-core. It's possible that those four disabled cores would be just fine, but I'm not selling you a chip that gets its sums wrong sometimes.

I guess people complained about how chip manufacturers sold CPUs rated at 25MHz that could be overclocked to 33MHz, but they too were not guaranteed to meet spec even if they worked.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by nonrandomstring on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @12:48PM (#33083049)
Is it really the case that dies/packages are tested and batched individually?

I mean, you make a good point on reliability/quality, but there are surely cases where to create a product differential perfectly good (and known to be good) devices are crippled.

That seems ever less ethically defensible as we move into scarcity.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by Gordonjcp on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @05:39AM (#33093221)
Depends on the value. If you test half a dozen off a die and they're all sub-spec, they're all binned the same even if some are okay.

This is why overclocking used to work - if even a small proportion of the chips tested were good to 25MHz, that was a 25MHz batch, guaranteed good to 25MHz. If you got a "lucky penny" that'd go to 33MHz as per the design spec, then good for you! But it wouldn't be guaranteed to do that.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by mikestew on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:26AM (#33080848)
It would almost seem like most of the engineering for the Blu-ray format went into things which very specifically doesn’t act in the interest of the buyer.

Which is why some of us were rooting for the somewhat-more-consumer-friendly HD-DVD. In retrospect, given the choice, there was no way in hell the industry was going with a "more consumer-friendly" anything.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by taylodl on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:07AM (#33080594)
You purchased a license to view the media content. I don't agree with this philosophy, I see it as a variant of "right to repair" that we should call "right to own", but that's the way it is for now.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by nmeagent on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @02:53PM (#33084984)
That's the way it is just as long as we tolerate it, so don't.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by 1980phipsi on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:06AM (#33080570)
You have to pay for an upgrade on Windows to even play a Bluray movie.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by jaywalk on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:47AM (#33082081)
Which is a good thing, if you think about it. It means that the vast majority of people who have no desire to play Blu-ray movies on their PC don't have to foot the bill for licensing.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by kube-system on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:31AM (#33081816)
If the bar for “owning” something is that it is guaranteed to function unchanged 20+ years from now without exception, then I don’t own very much stuff.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by ipaddr on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:58AM (#33082278)
That bar include able to resell it and inability of company selling to have control over the product.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @09:52AM (#33080371)
The same could be said though of DVD. Remember that DVD is completely proprietary - we've just done a fantastic job reverse-engineering it. Blu-ray, ironically, is still proprietary, but the specification on how the DRM is implemented is actually public information and you can just download that online. You won't get the required encryption key for your new device without a contract though for it to work, but if you want to read the details, that's fine.

https://aacsla.com/aacs-specifications/

Ultimately, if all the manufacturers decide to stop sale, there's nothing you can do about that. I'm not too worried about Blu-ray yet, as it is still in the PS5 and Xbox Series X, and I don't think gamers will be excited about losing physical media as an option (considering PS5 with Disc has outsold the Disc-free version, like, 4-1).

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by happymellon on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:27AM (#33080866)
Steam is the only online games store that has given me any levels of comfort that I'll still be able to get access to my games after 10 years.

Even then, I'm still not 100% confident that I'll be able to access everything in 25 years time.

I have no reason the believe that Sony and Microsoft won't shut them down like they already have done with the PS3 store.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by vel0city on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:50AM (#33081223)
Microsoft already shut down a lot of games when they killed Games for Windows Live.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by mattl on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:49AM (#33081207)
Do you think eventually Windows will drop 32-bit support like Mac OS X did? What will that mean for a lot of those games?
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by squarefoot on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:10AM (#33081482)
Ironically, by then the best Windows 32bit compatibility layer might come from Linux with WINE and other tools using it.

https://www.winehq.org/

https://lutris.net/

https://www.playonlinux.com/en/

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by mattl on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:13AM (#33081527)
I hope so. The Steam Deck has been pretty nice but I hate leaving Steam and fiddling with Arch Linux and KDE to get non-Steam games working.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by happymellon on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @12:33AM (#33091275)
Don't support Epic and other stores that are hostile to Linux.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by davrosthedalek on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @11:58AM (#33097207)
Are they hostile, or do they just not support it? For example, are they actively making it harder on purpose to run the store with WINE?
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by mattl on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @08:35AM (#33094646)
I don't primarily play games on Linux, I play them on a console so I was trying to use the EA launcher to play some games I have access to elsewhere.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by account42 on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:18AM (#33150406)
WoW is already an optional component that is not always installed in server editions.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by mattl on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:42AM (#33150596)
WoW is the name of the piece that runs 32 bit software? “Windows on Windows”?
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by account42 on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:45AM (#33150638)
Yes, well more precisely WoW64 [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by loufe on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:39AM (#33081049)
Thanks for taking the time to write this, it's fascinating.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by brabel on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:57AM (#33082259)
I havea few DVDs I bought in my previous country... I remember first time I tried to play them in a player from the new country, it asked me if I wanted to "move" it to the new region... I think there were 2 "moves" allowed. So, anyway, I was able to play it, no worries.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by borski on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @01:14PM (#33083455)
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by thaumasiotes on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @01:44PM (#33083917)
> Geo-locking is such an obviously bad idea for consumers. It was such a relief when the restrictions were hacked away (was it that an encryption key got leaked? I don't remember the details).

DVD region locking didn't need to be hacked away; it operates purely on the honor system. There are 8 regions, and a DVD contains a single byte specifying which regions it should be allowed to be played in. If the bit for your region is clear, you can play the DVD.

Or, of course, you can just ignore that byte, and play the DVD.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by wpietri on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @01:53PM (#33084098)
Now you can, but back in the day of hardware-only players, those were also region locked. So it was much stronger than an honor system originally.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by dylan604 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:45AM (#33082063)
>even analog media like VHS tapes used color encoding formats that were specific in different regions (NTSC vs PAL vs SECAM).

I think you're really stretching this one. These were dictated be the equipment of the regions. This was just as much of a pain in the ass to the studios as anyone else. If theStudios wanted to sell VHS in these markets, they HAD to make them in the format that would work in that region.

DVD/Blu-ray region was definitely something added on top of format limitations as DVDs were still PAL/NTSC, but by the time Blu-ray and HD arrived, those format limitations were less of an issue. It was all about the region locking at that point.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:56AM (#33081298)
> geolocking isn't new or unique to the pure bits movie format

when governments ban imports / exports, its a matter of public scrutiny. So is protectionism.

But apparently we allow a private cartel to do the same thing to an enrire industry with no pushback.

This affects smart IoT devices, TVs, cars, etc. My xiaomi light does not pair with the app because its was meant for chinese market, and the guy that sold it to me claims its not hia problem either.

The only way out of this mess is a law to properly define digital ownership.

If you want a weired half renting half ownership, that should have to be explicit contract with a signature and maybe lawyers involved, so you know what you are signing up for.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by orev on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:15AM (#33081552)
This is out of context and has nothing to do with what they said. The comment is about how companies were already region locking content using technical means on DVDs, not anything to do with government involvement.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by Liquix on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @09:55AM (#33080422)
Anyone interested in the history of DVD DRM / region locking may be interested in the "illegal number": a hex code which defeated DVD AACS encryption, prompting an attempt by the industry to surpress it across the internet, leading to a streisand effect and the end of effective DVD DRM.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controve...

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:00AM (#33080497)
That was a leaked Blu-ray Processing Key that was quickly revoked - but the industry was livid that it was allowed to propagate before they could revoke it (which takes 90 days). This means, ultimately, that if you have a player that hasn't had a Blu-ray Disc made since 2008 inserted into it, and are trying to decrypt a disc made before ~2008, then maybe with the right tools you could. It's a shallow victory meaningless nowadays.

[Even then, a Processing Key isn't nearly as interesting as a Device Key, plenty of which have been leaked since without much attention. Blu-ray has so many keys...]

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by account42 on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:41AM (#33150585)
Stripping Blu-Ray encryption works just fine with MakeMKV (and other tools). Even UHD disks if you have a LibreDrive-compatible reader. Sure, it requires someone to decrypt the individual disks keys and distribute those but in practice it just works for anything that is not a brand new release.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by happymellon on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:22AM (#33080797)
In the UK it was quite common to be able to purchase DVD players that were region free in most of the large electronic stores. The few that were region locked required something like the Konami code to unlock all the region's.

Was region locking really that big of a deal?

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by dfxm12 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:31AM (#33080929)
Was region locking really that big of a deal?

No. Not in the US either, at least. Even if there was a part of the world where it was a big deal, I imagine if you were so big a cinephile for it to matter, you would know how to deal with it.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by goosedragons on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:14AM (#33080690)
DVDs were region locked but not to the same degree. Digital content is on a country by country level. An American can easily buy and use a Canadian DVD while on vacation and then use it back home. The same is not true of digital content.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by titzer on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:05AM (#33080565)
> DVDs were regionally locked as well

It's easy nowadays to get a DVD/Bluray player that is multi-region, if only because of an aftermarket mod. E.g. I have a Samsung one that happily plays both media from any region.

Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by Brusco_RF on Wednesday October 05, 2022 @01:18PM (#33098406)
That's like saying Bollywood movies are regionally-locked because I don't speak Hindi
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by denton-scratch on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:46AM (#33082066)
To be fair, NTSC/PAL/SECAM were political decisions made by governments at the start of the television era, well before modern copyright maximalism had got its boots on.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by davrosthedalek on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @12:40PM (#33082930)
Some were also technical I believe, for example with relation to the power grid frequency.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by anikom15 on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @05:59PM (#33087650)
They were not political decisions made by governments. They were technical standards developed by standards bodies primarily made up of engineers. Then government institutions like the FCC adopted them for their countries.
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by pilsetnieks on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @11:34AM (#33081860)
NTSC, PAL and SECAM wasn't a case of intentional geolocking, those were simply different signal standards used in different parts of the world. NTSC had different frequency from PAL/SECAM because the signal was synchronized to the power grid; SECAM was different from PAL because the French being French had to make it their own way (and then communist-affiliated countries adopted it).
Re:The deception of “buying” digital movies by HideousKojima on Tuesday October 04, 2022 @10:59AM (#33081329)
Geolocking kind of made sense back when we had incompatible standards like NTSC and PAL. It makes zero sense (except as rent-seeking behavior by rights holders) for Blu-ray and beyond.