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Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by johnnypangs on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:39AM (#30467096)
Looks a lot like the raspberry pi 400 https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-400/.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:57AM (#30467285)
Yes.

I wonder if this is about education.

Essentially I think Apple have realised their new developer pipe is drying up; the devices are too expensive for hobbyists and they are vastly too expensive for almost all schools on earth.

The Pi 400 is a wholly credible device in those markets; it solves a lot of the practicality issues of the earlier machines.

A device with even an old style A14 or the M1 in an M2 future, tucked inside a keyboard, could be made viable for this market, I think, and it's seemed obvious to me for some time that the only reason Apple don't make the Apple TV into a general purpose education computing device is that they don't care about the market.

If they've started to care about that market again, it's a good thing.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by em500 on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:23AM (#30467579)
How do laptops without screens make any sense in schools, which are largely already deploying cheap laptops with screens?
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by ksec on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:05AM (#30467990)
Could be targeting library or desktop business uses cases?

There is no reason why it cant be squeezed down to $299. Basically the iPad ( $329 ) without screen. Or more like with A14 but $399.

Cool idea, the problem is I still dont understand where the target market are, the two above doesn't seems very Apple to me. There are ~700M business PC ( both laptop and desktop ), I would imagine this is attractive enough for Apple to make exception.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by csunbird on Monday February 28, 2022 @01:28AM (#30496979)
or, just make ipad a proper handheld general purposed device that can be used for more sophisticated purposes, instead of crippling it.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by sanjayio on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:49AM (#30467829)
I’m terms of user experience Apple is unparalleled. If I was a teacher and there was a cheap option to educate kids with less hands on from me, I’d go with that option in a heart beat.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by mcphage on Friday February 25, 2022 @11:25AM (#30468956)
> I think Apple have realised their new developer pipe is drying up

Is this actually happening? New iOS apps seem to be coming along in a flood like usual.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by ta988 on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:27AM (#30468254)
It is also because the developer experience on a mac is a disaster when you have to use docker (and can't do it in a VM).
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by smoyer on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:06AM (#30467394)
I thought the same thing ... and wonder how Apple can possibly believe this is patentable.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:15AM (#30467500)
I thought it was a design patent. It's full of very specific measurements.

Design patents only protect key aspects of product design, they are more limited, and -- evidently like this one -- they're kept secret until they are granted.

There's a good chance this device is actually going to happen.

If it's not a design patent then they are really only claiming one or two small elements of this as innovation. Read any patent; they're all like this at some level.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by Someone on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:46AM (#30467806)
Measurements and details (“a hinge foldable about an axis perpendicular to the rear-facing wall”, “a cross-sectional shape of the enclosure is triangular”)

This is to protect (somewhat) against lookalikes.

One interesting part is that they mention an inductive charging coil. Cursory reading didn’t tell me whether that’s for keeping a mouse charged or for charging the device.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:57AM (#30467904)
> This is to protect (somewhat) against lookalikes.

Right. Fits with my understanding. Basically they (and others -- HP/LG) use these patent classes to protect aspects of technical designs in the way that Coca Cola used design patents to protect their classic bottle shape.

So possibly not an actual design patent but something with the same narrow scope.

I guess it's an open question as to whether they should be allowed, but they surely seem largely to be easy to avoid in good faith.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:45AM (#30467794)
More notes in my other comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30467618
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by catfishx on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:08AM (#30467419)
So is Raspberry now violating Apples patents?
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by arghwhat on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:13AM (#30467481)
No, it is by definition impossible for an older product to ever violate a later patent, as a patent is invalid in the presence of prior art.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by ianai on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:55AM (#30467271)
Those don’t seem to sell well either-at least they’ve been available for purchase much longer and easier than the other models. Could be for a headset though.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:06AM (#30467396)
Well -- they obviously don't have quite as broad an application as the Pi 4 and Zero 2 have.

You can't embed a Pi 400 in a robot, you wouldn't stick it on the side of a 3D printer, turn it into a streaming media player, etc.

I suspect the Pi 400 sells better at specific times of the year -- at Christmas and when schools are spending their rare IT budgets. But it's also the first product of its kind from them.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by alpaca128 on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:39AM (#30467098)
Finally I'll be able to send my whole desktop computer to repair when a key is stuck.

I don't really see the benefit here, all you get are some drawbacks you usually see with laptops. I understand the all-in-one inside a screen, but integrating it with one of the parts most exposed to wear?

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by cyberge99 on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:09AM (#30467432)
I’d venture to say that upgrading screens happens less frequently than upgrading the mobo/cpu.

Plus, this could be an affordable option due to BYOScreen.

They could potentially use it for wider adoption of the purported VR headset.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by mcphage on Friday February 25, 2022 @01:51PM (#30470713)
> upgrading screens happens less frequently than upgrading the mobo/cpu

Heck, I have a 2009 iMac that I'm using as an external monitor right now.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:28AM (#30467630)
Well it is a bold claim that they've fixed their keyboard problems, that's for sure.

Evidence suggests they have, with the new design.

What was striking about Apple's recent keyboard woes is precisely that is that in general keyboards do _not_ routinely fail; they last for a very long time.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by staticman2 on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:34AM (#30468348)
My brother bought a Pi 400 that had a stuck key, we've been too lazy to return it so we plugged in a USB keyboard :(.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by tomaskafka on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:49AM (#30467827)
Yup, it seems that they solved the problem of 'M1 chips are so great people will keep their devices for 5+ years and we will lose sales' with 'let's fuse them with something easily breakable and expendable'.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by mcherm on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:00AM (#30467339)
Given that this existed in the 80s, how can this be patentable? Has anyone read the actual claims of the patent and feel qualified to explain what it is that Apple is claiming is novel and patentable?
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by coldpie on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:21AM (#30467556)
1) Patents are outrageous and should be abolished. However, in this particular case, the patent has not yet been granted, so may indeed not be found to be valid.

2) The article https://www.macrumors.com/2022/02/25/apple-explores-mac-insi... links to

3) This other article https://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2022/02/apple-i... which links to

4) The patent filing https://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=...

5) If you would like to review it yourself. As you review it, you will likely find out for yourself why patents are useless and exist only to create monopolies and harm innovation.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by markstos on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:27AM (#30467618)
Commenter above explains it's a design patent, which are more specific: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30467500
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:39AM (#30467736)
I am the commenter above.

I'm not absolutely certain it's a design patent application, actually. I thought it was, but I would very happily be corrected by someone with deeper knowledge, and please please ignore me if I am wrong!

Apple definitely uses patents in some of the same international classes to protect their product designs.

e.g. they are using the international class G06F 1/16 20060101 G06F001/16 for this one, among others.

Here's another Apple patent in that class that seems to cover aspects of the use of in-display cameras (by covering the idea of an extended display area around a notch).

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20190043452

Apple also uses it for very specific design aspects of an accessory keyboard hinge:

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200301480

Here's an HP laptop-related patent in that class, that seems to cover really very narrow aspects of the design of a laptop enclosure:

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200381801

And here's a touch panel design for an LG domestic appliance:

https://uspto.report/patent/app/20210048935

Whatever it is about this particular class of patents (whether they become design patents or not) does not seem to really be holding back innovation.

So instead of seeing these used as a "we thought of this whole new thing, you can't make anything remotely like it" patent for a new technology, these are more "these are the minute aspects of our designs that we claim are our work that you shouldn't copy".

It hasn't stopped other manufacturers using a notch, or an in-display camera.

It's more like they are a way to register a design that can be brought up in court when e.g. Apple accuses Samsung of stealing design IP.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by vnchr on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:49AM (#30467200)
If they move forward with their VR headset, that seems like a useful compliment.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by abakker on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:55AM (#30467274)
This is exactly what I was thinking. If the video processor was in a headset, this would basically mean that you could get better ergonomics than a laptop while remote and your work would be private. you could work outside with no glare, you could work on confidential stuff on an airplane, and, you are suddenly given the possibility of endless monitor.

I'm in.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by twobitshifter on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:24AM (#30467596)
In some embodiments, the device includes a trackpad "coupled" to the enclosure, while in others the device is foldable and the keyboard area includes an "accessory display" showing graphics, or the keyboard itself is virtually displayed from a projector contained inside the enclosure.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by twobitshifter on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:25AM (#30467602)
The keyboard could be completely virtual or there could be a smaller display and track pad built in.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by interactivecode on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:30AM (#30467647)
I'm waiting for the day where I can plug my iphone into my screen and have a full os show up. Apple seems like the perfect company to build that.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by wodenokoto on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:38AM (#30467729)
You can with at many android phones. The only big brand I know of is Samsung, but I use an iPhone, so I haven't bothered to look into how widely this is among Android devices.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by pmx on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:39AM (#30467734)
Samsung have Dex which is basically this but for android devices obviously. It's "ok" but its still android underneath.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by exhilaration on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:48AM (#30467822)
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by diffeomorphism on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:54AM (#30467869)
No, that is not at all what your link says. The article is talking about a specific software named "DeX for PC, Mac", DeX itself is not discontinued.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by exhilaration on Friday February 25, 2022 @11:06AM (#30468724)
Whoops! I appreciate the correction; I'll leave the comment there in case someone else thinks the same thing.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by frosted-flakes on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:59AM (#30467931)
Looks like they only discontinued pre-Windows 10 and MacOS support. Windows 10+ still seems to be supported.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by sanjayio on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:52AM (#30467851)
It feels like we’re a long way from that but headed in that direction with everything being on the same architecture now. This was much harder to see with intel in the picture.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by smoldesu on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:36AM (#30467709)
Apple is diametrically opposed to cannibalizing their own hardware market. If such a product ever does exist, it will likely exist in the form of an arbitrary $600 accessory.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by stephen_g on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:41AM (#30467750)
If that were true as a general rule, they’d still be trying to sell iPods and you wouldn’t be able to play music from an iPhone…
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:05AM (#30467993)
The confusing, overlapping MacBook lineup at various times is at odds with this assessment, I'd have thought.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by Someone on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:36AM (#30467708)
I don’t think we’ll ever see that. Without the plug, maybe, but with one? I don’t see that happen.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by johndoe0815 on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:07AM (#30467409)
A Raspberry Pi 400-size ARM-based Mac, maybe with an A15 CPU/SoC (similar to the Mac Mini ARM developer transition kit, which had an A12Z) could be an interesting low-cost option.

It would probably still require 8 GB RAM to be useful unless Apple manages to reduce the RAM requirements of macOS significantly. This amount of RAM will probably be too expensive for a low-cost device.

Edit: fixed CPU info for the ARM Mac DTK

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by dylan604 on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:22AM (#30467574)
Why would it need to run macOS? If it is a companion to a headset, it could run some version of iOS/iPadOS. or maybe even something dedicated like vrOS
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by johndoe0815 on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:29AM (#30468276)
Sure, the systems are similar enough on kernel level (and I also want to run macOS on my M1 iPad Pro 11", the SoC is identical to M1 Macs :)) - but then the user would have the hassle of getting an external touchscreen to work with a keyboard-oriented computer. I think that Apple's multitouch implementation helps a lot to make iOS/iPadOS as comfortable to use as it is right now. An external touchscreen, possibly connected via USB, will probably have higher latencies and maybe also less precision.

I can't imagine using i(Pad)OS with mouse and keyboard only right now, though I know it's possible.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by kayodelycaon on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:42AM (#30467116)
It’s a patent. I don’t see why Apple actually would build this. This is basically putting an iMac in the keyboard and connecting it to a display via USB-C. And the display would need external power.

If anything, this a step backwards from what an iMac is. It adds a completely unnecessary second wire.

That’s before you look at price. The M1 iMac is US$ 1,299. Or the lack of Retina resolution USB-C monitors on the market.

If you want something this compact, Apple would have you get a MacBook Air for US$ 999.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:00AM (#30467337)
It could be for education, which is a market that Apple has shown a lazy and self-sabotaging disregard for, for almost ten years.

They could be putting hardware as modest as an A14 iPad in there, basically. We know that hardware can run macOS.

Are there not displays with USB-C power buses now?

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by thebean11 on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:48AM (#30467824)
How is this better than a laptop for education? Most schools have laptop carts that they wheel into classrooms in lieu of dedicated computer labs I think.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by kayodelycaon on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:12AM (#30467462)
> Are there not displays with USB-C power buses now?

Retina display.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by sanjayio on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:55AM (#30467882)
For education, they’re always thinking long term. If schools can afford this product and teach kids Swift then that’ll encourage them to join the developer ecosystem later on. It doesn’t have to be a “pro” product.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by breakfastduck on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:05AM (#30467385)
Not sure why you're comparing it to an iMac...
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by xwdv on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:49AM (#30467212)
POS Systems.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by KptMarchewa on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:58AM (#30467312)
I'd rather have mac-inside-a-monitor like imac. Apple's keyboards are one of their weakest products, while their monitors are decent.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by markstos on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:28AM (#30467625)
Same. This product is not for us.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:07AM (#30468025)
It's definitely for me -- I'd love one, if it has a built-in Magic Trackpad and if the small high def portable monitor market can catch up.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by ZetaZero on Friday February 25, 2022 @08:48AM (#30467186)
So it's a laptop without a monitor.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by titusjohnson on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:41AM (#30468434)
I could really see this working for education, libraries, coffee shops, terminals, anywhere really. It needs a reliable locking mechanism. Unless it's issued with a mouse and every desk has a monitor & hookup it's gonna end up walking away at some point. It needs to be robust, spill-proof, slam proof.

Decent-enough monitors are cheap as hell, schools should be buying bulk displays given how fast they can be damaged. It's a lot cheaper to swap out an older Dell display than it is to replace a whole iMac.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by bogwog on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:44AM (#30467781)
By “imagines” they mean “tries to patent”

Even our fucked up patent system is unlikely to grant this, so why are they even trying? Is this just busy work for their overpaid legal teams?

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:12AM (#30468068)
Patents like this definitely get granted, all the time, and at scale. Have a look at one of the international patent classes they are using -- google other patents in that class.

They are seemingly a way to register a product's technical design for protection, rather than an outrageous fictitious claim of innovation over something that has been around 40 years. They contain unusually detailed (rather than abstracted) sketches, they contain some very specific measurements in specific claims.

I think some of the more egregious uses of patents in the past have blinded us to the sheer scale of the use of the international patent system to protect designs from copycats and to allow companies to develop unique design languages.

I think we may often misunderstand why patent claims are structured as they are with seemingly obvious introductory claims. It's because a patent has to be self-contained, as far as I understand it at least?

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by sanjayio on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:48AM (#30467815)
If you had an unlimited war chest you would do the same before your competitor does and you end up in a lengthy legal battle.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by etempleton on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:58AM (#30467909)
It makes sense. Apple is always looking to create the most minimalist computers possible. What could be more minimalist than a keyboard that plugs into a monitor via USB-C?

This could easily be a return to a $500 entry level computer for Apple. Will they do it? Who knows. It might not have the margins or volume they are looking for, but it also could a great entry point to introduce people to the Mac.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by tonyedgecombe on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:32AM (#30468326)
If they want to continue their push into services then having more entry level devices might make sense. They already sell Apple TV which starts at $149 so there is a precedent for lower cost devices.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by adolph on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:09AM (#30467430)
As some form of an input device is often required for interacting or interfacing with a computing device, including computing components within the housing or enclosure of an input device can eliminate the need for redundant sets of input devices and reduces the number of components that need to be transported by the user.

Dibs on patenting the computer inside a mouse.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by rahoulb on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:12AM (#30467464)
If I remember rightly, Apple once patented a hard drive inside a mouse - so you could take your home folder/full OS with you wherever you went.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by tonyedgecombe on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:34AM (#30468343)
I think the Magic Mouse has an ARM processor in it as does the current keyboard.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by yalogin on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:02AM (#30467362)
Why are we discussing patents? They mean nothing, it’s just a way for engineers to make some extra money, organizations to defend in lawsuits and trolls to survive and show us how absurd patents are.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by gwbas1c on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:04AM (#30467988)
Isn't a laptop just a computer integrated into a keyboard, plus a detachable screen?

Personally: I'd rather have a laptop with a detachable screen; or some kind of clamshell I could slip the keyboard into.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by busymom0 on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:16AM (#30467508)
I could see this as a replacement for Mac mini. However patents often don’t revolve into actual products so who knows.
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by unfocussed_mike on Friday February 25, 2022 @10:13AM (#30468078)
Every patent I found when I googled the patent class above is really talking about a product that exists.

I think there's a very good chance that this device is close to market.

Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by karmakaze on Friday February 25, 2022 @06:28PM (#30473649)
Like an iPod Touch with a keyboard instead of a screen. Uh, am I missing the innovation somewhere?
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by jojo14 on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:34AM (#30467690)
Make it more like a laptop whiteout a screen but with a full sized trackpad and I will buy it !
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by Shadonototra on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:18AM (#30467528)
I'd buy this instantly!
Re:Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of ... by jdrc on Friday February 25, 2022 @09:29AM (#30467640)
you re going to need a power supply anyway so why not put the computer in it? Less heating for your fingers