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Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by zfxfr on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:25AM (#30007993)
Unsurprisingly I got a 503 error. I'll be more curious how many requests it can handle if it is really only on floppy (no caching etc..). 1.44 MB is plenty of space to host a nice website !
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by hooby on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:33AM (#30008648)
Are you asking about how many requests per second - or about how many request per floppy (before that needs replacing)? ;)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by zfxfr on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:14AM (#30009139)
Yes sorry, I meant I'll be curious to know how many requests per second that floppy can handle. Well for sure it's not enough for instance since I still get 503 :). Since I am curious so I'll just bookmark for next time.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by mrmattyboy on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:56AM (#30008916)
Yeh, if it is down, it's sad that the HN effect has caused the death of a floppy or floppy drive :( haha
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by CTOSian on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:42AM (#30010252)
are we talking about the same site ? as the pages on the archive org version say: "The specs: .... a 256MB IDE Disk on Module."
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by mrmattyboy on Thursday January 20, 2022 @11:26AM (#30011013)
I imagine the OS is on the IDE disk and the floppy disk contains the files for the website
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by sodimel on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:58AM (#30008935)
A gif just loaded[0]! That means that the computer is alive, and the floppy still somewhat works. No luck in trying the homepage.

[0] https://old.bigcat.space/278062.gif - here it is for the curious: https://imgur.com/a/AfcEnRw

edit: the website just loaded, but not the images. It's still alive.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by boogies on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:12PM (#30015899)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by lopis on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:08AM (#30009067)
> Best viewed in uwutscape navigator at 640x480 or something

This is not true. It shows horizontal scroll at this resolution. Absolutely unusable in my 15" CRT.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by rovr138 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:33AM (#30010106)
Having had small CRT monitors, I can't tell if this is true or trolling.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by mdbauman on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:38AM (#30009413)
https://archive.ph/YEv1x This archive from 03:58 has several of the images.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by barelysapient on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:39AM (#30007628)
I can't in good conscious click the link.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by hnlmorg on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:44AM (#30007662)
I published my first website in 1994 via floppy disk.

I didn't have the internet at home so would design the website there, save to floppy disk, then go to the local library that had internet terminals you could hire for an hour. From there I'd upload the website from floppy disk.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by kingcharles on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:37AM (#30010162)
I found one of my earliest web sites from 1996 on a floppy not long ago. It was surprisingly awesome.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by brazzy on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:48AM (#30007693)
I did the same in 1996 (hosting at my univesity). On an Amiga. Which didn't even have a TCP/IP stack (I think you could get a commercial implementation).
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by ricardo81 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:34AM (#30007583)
Guess the ~1MB (probably less) is deliberately not paged into memory, HTTP 503 for me just now.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by john-doe on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:52AM (#30007723)
Having images was a bit too optimistic I guess, ASCII drawings would have been more appropriate.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by yosito on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:32AM (#30007560)
I'm imagining that the HN hug of death will literally set the floppy disks on fire.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by r0fl on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:16AM (#30007927)
I almost spit my coffee out this morning because of this :)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by sam0x17 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @01:56PM (#30013026)
Considering this is on HN, I'm just going to assume it won't load if I click haha.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by redleader55 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:43AM (#30007655)
I am curious about the reliability of this media - how many requests until the floppy is busted. Can the website owner comment on this?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by kroltan on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:50AM (#30008826)
F5 and a tally!
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by pawelwentpawel on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:42AM (#30007651)
Error 503 unfortunately. I promise I was patient.

Once back in the early 2000s I connected the floppy drive incorrectly and the entire thing melted inside with some smoke. It was rather funny at the time, mostly because it wasn't my computer. That said, I'm hoping bigcat.space r&d headquarters are not on fire and the website will be back up soon :)

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by garou on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:45AM (#30007674)
https://web.archive.org/web/20220120092324/https://old.bigca... Not on a floppy disk but kills the curiosity
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by charcircuit on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:42AM (#30007649)
Couldn't you cache the entire site? The speed of the floppy shouldn't matter that much.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by smhenderson on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:40AM (#30008141)
I think that would defeat the point - one of the items on his site "feature" list says :

Xitami web server, because it's the only one that does no caching at all, so the website is always served fresh from the floppy.

So I think it's more about proving what you can do with old software/hardware when you put your mind to it...

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by charcircuit on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:07AM (#30009770)
If you wanted to prove that, wouldn't you want to make it scale to handle HN traffic. I'm sure it would be possible.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by rightbyte on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:59AM (#30007792)
That would remove the fun wouldn't it? I want to believe there is that crunching floppy sound when I press a link.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by charcircuit on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:06AM (#30009760)
I've never used a floppy disk before so I wouldn't know that sound. I think making sure your site fits on it could be a challenge.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by rightbyte on Thursday January 20, 2022 @01:46PM (#30012882)
1.44 Mb is alot.

I used 56k modems to surf and a floppy would take like 1440/7 seconds to load at perfect conditions. Most pages loaded way faster than that.

edit: Nice could load the site now.

"Windows 3.11 for workgroups!

Xitami web server, because it's the only one that does no caching at all, so the website is always served fresh from the floppy."

Perfect stack.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by codazoda on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:37AM (#30010156)
Making sites fit would be pretty easy. Images will probably be your biggest piece of data.

Sony used to have a floppy disk based digital camera. I think it could take about 20 pictures per disk. Plus, I’m sure you could reduce that size.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by andai on Thursday January 20, 2022 @11:29AM (#30011057)
You could store about 240,000 words, or about 2-3 novels.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by severak_cz on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:50AM (#30007709)
Pragmatic approach would be host it from floppy disk, but have some caching proxy before it. It could cache into RAM, most modern machines have enough memory to cache many many many floppies. Even Raspberry Pi.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by wmitty on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:16AM (#30007929)
The website says that he uses:

"Xitami web server, because it's the only one that does no caching at all, so the website is always served fresh from the floppy."

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20220120092324/https://old.bigca...

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by jandrese on Thursday January 20, 2022 @01:48PM (#30012917)
I was wondering how he prevented the kernel from caching the disk blocks in memory, but then I saw he is running it on a machine with 4MB of main memory, and presumably most of that is eaten up by the TCP stack, web server, and parallel ethernet drivers. Not to mention memory needed by the OS itself.

Even more surprising, his page isn't just pretty, it is functional! You can get a copy of the demo for Wolfenstein 3D off of the site (supposedly, I did not try).

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by account42 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:07AM (#30007849)
The pragmatic approach would be to not host it from a floppy. If you are going to host it on a floppy then just having it all constantly in cache somewhat defeats the point.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by jraedisch on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:10AM (#30007877)
You need somewhere to persist writes from those CGI scripts.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by colonwqbang on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:56AM (#30007768)
This is exactly what Linux will do by default, without any special setup or config. Everything goes through the buffer cache.

In fact, you would have to do active work to disable the caching.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by colejohnson66 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:03AM (#30007823)
Don’t all modern operating systems have a RAM-based disk cache?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by colonwqbang on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:25AM (#30008546)
I don't have deep knowledge of any other operating system. But I'm sure you are right.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by iso1631 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:00AM (#30008330)
It's hosted on a machine with 4M of ram on windows 3.11, and specifically uses a web server which doesn't use caching (And I don't think Dos 6 caches files at the OS level, at least by default)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by AshamedCaptain on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:05AM (#30009035)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by Delk on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:31PM (#30016204)
I can't remember how buffers in DOS work, but that page seems to indicate that for input purposes they're used as some kind of a read-ahead buffer. That doesn't sound quite the same as keeping recently or commonly accessed data in RAM to speed repeated access.

DOS did have SmartDrive [1], though, which IIRC provided a more typical disk cache. I wouldn't think it was loaded in the default configuration, though I'm not sure.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartDrive

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by AshamedCaptain on Friday January 21, 2022 @08:15AM (#30023025)
As said in that page and the documentation, the read-ahead is the [,X] part, which is actually disabled by default in every DOS past 6.x (incl FreeDOS). The first part is the number of primary buffers which is indeed "for keeping recently read data in RAM".

Smartdrv, like Fastopen, just allows disk buffers to survive a Close File call. Normally DOS only does close-to-open consistency i.e. buffers are flushed on close. Smartdrv specifically also allows write-back rather than write-through.

And, anyway: yes, Smartdrv is enabled by default in 6.x installs with enough memory.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by Delk on Friday January 21, 2022 @11:02PM (#30033373)
Okay, thanks for the clarification.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by iso1631 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:14AM (#30009151)
Nice, although if it is set to 15, that's only 7,680 bytes of buffer, and even 99 is just 50,688 bytes. It's not loading now, but I suspect a single load of all those images will flush that data
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by tluyben2 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:59PM (#30015720)
When I ran my BBS in the 80s, it was hosted on an 8 bit machine with 2 3.5 drives; however the BBS software itself which included all pages of the ‘site’ where on a ram disk of 256kb so they would load ‘instantly’. The 2 disks contained (weekly refreshed) public domain software and demos.

Now I am curious if I put it online (I still have the machine) how it would work. Seems fun to do.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by whoomp12342 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:03AM (#30009009)
error 503.F0064 : floppy disk ejected
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by andai on Thursday January 20, 2022 @11:34AM (#30011126)
What is causing the 503 errors? Could the server be reconfigured with eg. a longer timeout to avoid them? (On that note, is there a limit to maximum timeout on the client-side?) Or is the actual hardware getting overwhelmed by the traffic?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by andai on Thursday January 20, 2022 @02:11PM (#30013224)
The whole machine only has 4MB of RAM so presumably at some point requests start getting dropped. Then again, you can store a lot of requests in even 1MB.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by yowza on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:54AM (#30006851)
I remember making websites in Frontpage and uploading them to Geocities.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by EGreg on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:23AM (#30009247)
"Service Unavailable"

Can someone re-insert the disk please??

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by hobomatic on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:54AM (#30009610)
This may not be enough. They may have to click open the window a few times and blow on it
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by Omnius on Thursday January 20, 2022 @12:27PM (#30011863)
Someone needs to flip it over mid load.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by HPsquared on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:52AM (#30007724)
I'll check back in a couple of weeks...
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by laputan_machine on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:38AM (#30007613)
Not sure how this works unless somehow (how?) deliberately disabling writes to memory. Not going to survive HN HoD.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by margofx on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:10AM (#30009814)
503 Service Unavailable - is there any screenshot of the website itself? I'd like to check it out.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by marginalia_nu on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:23AM (#30009979)
Don't copy that floppy!
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by errcorrectcode on Thursday January 20, 2022 @03:20PM (#30014215)
Install Super PC-Kwik, smartdrv, or run it from a CF/USB emulator. Problem solved. ;-)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by masswerk on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:42PM (#30015522)
Fun fact: Loading from 3.5" floppy disk used to be a good V.34 simulator.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by gleventhal on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:34PM (#30016234)
and, surprise! It's down. "I stored my knapsack in my toilet, and look: it's wet".
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by akuji1993 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:47AM (#30007686)
Aaaaaand it's gone.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by commandnotfound on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:28AM (#30007544)
Error 503 is intended?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by smogblock on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:56AM (#30007764)
no it's just down from too much traffic
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by jhgb on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:32AM (#30008640)
So...what is the 503 page served from, then? ;)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by Tabular-Iceberg on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:26AM (#30009281)
Probably a reverse proxy running on a modern machine, for security.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by omgmajk on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:42AM (#30007644)
Reminds me of that blog/magazine who went fully solar and stopped thinking about uptime. What a time to be alive.

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by phh on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:36AM (#30008679)
Which reminds me of a catastrophe movie, where all countries launched all their nukes, and earth became radioactively poisoned. A submarine survived, looking for signs of life, and they received sporadic messages like "the whales are fine" (which made sense to them since whales live under-water). They went to the origin of the signal, only to find a computer turning on and off because of its solar panel, sending messages at every boot.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by KineticLensman on Thursday January 20, 2022 @11:34AM (#30011120)
> They went to the origin of the signal, only to find a computer turning on and off because of its solar panel, sending messages at every boot.

In the original film [0] and book, the signal is caused by a soda-bottle being knocked by a window-blind against a Morse-code telegraph key.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(1959_film)

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by whoibrar on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:13AM (#30009122)
This would be an interesting watch, I tried searching but couldn't find it, can you share the name of the movie?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by gelli on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:20AM (#30009210)
I think it's On the Beach, a remake of a 1950s movie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219224/

Here's the original: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by fogihujy on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:13AM (#30009856)
Brilliant book too! Well worth a read.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by omgmajk on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:00PM (#30027337)
Which sort of reminds me of SOMA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soma_(video_game)

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by CTOSian on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:16AM (#30009886)
oh crap... now I had some sort of flashback from Fallout 4 (Yangtze) :)

Thanks guys for sharing the link of the movie.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by emaro on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:08PM (#30015841)
Which reminds me of the http://solarprotocol.net/ I stumbled up on earlier today. It' a network of solar powered servers and the content of the site is delivered by the peer with the most sunshine.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by AshamedCaptain on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:43AM (#30007657)
Next: a website that loads from punched cards!

Where to stop?

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by teitoklien on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:52AM (#30007726)
Surely a website that doesn’t exist but is left to the imagination of the reader

Is the final stop

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by Navarr on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:12AM (#30009108)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by fdomingues on Friday January 21, 2022 @10:02AM (#30024401)
Happy to see it converted from the old flash applet.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by omgmajk on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:21AM (#30008501)
I have one like that. It contains pictures of cats.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by hooby on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:31AM (#30008626)
Pictures of Schroedinger cats, I presume?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by pferde on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:51AM (#30008844)
Maybe.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by buitreVirtual on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:55AM (#30009614)
Yes and no at the same time
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by domesticsimian on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:55AM (#30008898)
I'm pretty sure that website exists.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by corobo on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:24AM (#30009988)
> Surely a website that doesn’t exist but is left to the imagination of the reader

A startup looking for funding, full circle

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by datavirtue on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:33PM (#30015382)
That's what I just experienced. They should probably upgrade to a zip drive.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by errcorrectcode on Thursday January 20, 2022 @03:23PM (#30014266)
Eniac or Babbage Difference Engine doing HTTP/2.0. I can't remember if both are Turing complete, so it's an exercise for the maker.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by CTOSian on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:27AM (#30010021)
Punched tape (on loop) would be more suitable :)
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by superjan on Thursday January 20, 2022 @12:03PM (#30011553)
An actual Turing machine maybe? I’m someone built one by now.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by progval on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:01PM (#30014925)
Some people even built one in Lego http://rubens.ens-lyon.fr/
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by Hokusai on Thursday January 20, 2022 @11:04AM (#30010631)
> Location: Barcelona

That is interesting as in winter and summer you will get a noticeable difference in availability. It varies between 9 and 15 hours of sun a day.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by c0balt on Friday January 21, 2022 @02:30AM (#30020319)
Now just span across multiple sun availability zones and ensure the local sun harvesting is redundant for a HA setup ^^
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by hdjjhhvvhga on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:59AM (#30007791)
Unfortunately it is not fully solar - it is as far as it can go, but then it is connected to a home router connected to mains etc.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by madaxe_again on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:16AM (#30008450)
I do have a fully solar powered VPN gateway/LTE router/web server/Wi-Fi relay - in my case, it’s out of necessity, as I live in a deep valley, and the only way I could get internet access here was to stick a mast on top of a hill with an IP67 box of goodies and a solar panel and battery, and an LPDA and yagi antenna for LTE and 802.11n respectively. The web server isn’t public, but fulfils a few important functions for me.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by falcolas on Thursday January 20, 2022 @11:43AM (#30011263)
Sounds like our local ham relay station. On the top of the mountain, solar and deep cycle batteries, and a radio relay. All housed in a cheap little shack.

I was last up there around '98 to help top off the batteries with water, but it's still running strong today.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by headass on Thursday January 20, 2022 @02:24PM (#30013466)
this sounds really cool
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by falcolas on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:59PM (#30015717)
Some more info:

https://gallatinhamradio.com/repeaters/BozemanAreaRepeaters.... <- The Bridger Ridge one the one I went to.

Some of those repeaters will let you patch into the phone system. It's slick stuff, but I haven't worked with it for a few decades now.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by jhoechtl on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:17AM (#30009909)
Cool. Do you have a writeup of what you made and how?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by johnchristopher on Thursday January 20, 2022 @12:54PM (#30012221)
If you want to nitpick go all the way.

It's fully solar because a long time ago the sun got hot and the solar system got put together and that combination resulted in life and then later some sample of that life built a website with materials extracted from what the sun did to the original mess.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by robocat on Thursday January 20, 2022 @03:20PM (#30014207)
Nitpick++: A fair percentage of electricity in the world is powered by other stars, because Uranium didn’t come from our star.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by johnchristopher on Friday January 21, 2022 @03:34AM (#30020767)
Ah, coool. But it's still fair to say it's solar powered, right ? Just not our sun ?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by robocat on Friday January 21, 2022 @04:54PM (#30030482)
Not really. The transuranics are believed to be mostly created during supernovas (core-collapse supernova nucleosynthesis) and neutron star mergers.

Those events are not particularly similar to our sun's normal solar radiation.

I think you are grasping at straws (although I'll be honest I don't know what that literally means). And I think the word solar really only applies to our own sun.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by johnchristopher on Saturday January 22, 2022 @06:51AM (#30035881)
Thanks for the explanation :).

> I think you are grasping at straws (although I'll be honest I don't know what that literally means).

Yup, I tried all I could ^^.

> And I think the word solar really only applies to our own sun.

So be it then. In scifi they always talked about sol-3 anyway and caspix-9, etc..

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by errcorrectcode on Thursday January 20, 2022 @03:22PM (#30014239)
Nice! Next step: an Arduino website run from ambient RF energy harvesting. :))
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by davidandgoliath on Thursday January 20, 2022 @01:55PM (#30013012)
This is amazing.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by Shamii on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:50AM (#30008829)
Linux had page cache for a while. Not sure what this should show.

Independently can we pls stop using floppy disks to show how slow, fast, small or big something else is in comparison?

I haven't had a floppy disk in my hands for 19 years and they were shitty 2000 already.

I also guess even less people are even getting anything out of floppy disk comparisons.

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Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dang on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:26AM (#30008561)
"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dncornholio on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:50AM (#30008834)
Agreed! Next time I will gather more arguments.
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Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by jandrese on Thursday January 20, 2022 @01:51PM (#30012948)
Running a full OS with a TCP stack and drivers and host actual data (game demo) on 1.44MB is pretty impressive IMHO.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dang on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:28AM (#30009313)
Your comment was a shallow dismissal. Please don't post those.
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Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dang on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:45PM (#30016398)
Those two things can easily both be true, and it doesn't change the fact that shallow comments are bad for HN and therefore against the rules here.

It's perfectly possible to write a non-shallow comment about work that you consider shallow. More likely, though, there isn't much that's interesting to say about it, in which case you shouldn't post anything.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by hnlmorg on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:47AM (#30007689)
The fact it exists is creative and interesting. One could even argue it's a piece of performance art.

The fact the link doesn't work is, as you point out, inevitable. But that doesn't detract the artistic merit of the submission.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by smhenderson on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:07AM (#30009780)
But that doesn't detract the artistic merit of the submission.

Agreed, looked at in that light I'd suggest that it actually adds to the artistic expression. I was one of a few, apparently, that the site loaded for (sans images) and it was a tiny thrill to see it load. So, it felt like watching a performance of sorts, for me at least.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by bodge5000 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:58AM (#30007784)
Probably because the author found it fun and interesting to do. Not everything serves an audience (especially if you're not paying for it).

It reminds me of the few times I've seen random people stumble across game jams and complain that they're unfinished and have bugs

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by schleck8 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:35AM (#30007590)
I think it's interesting and creative...
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dncornholio on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:04AM (#30007827)
To me it's as interesting as putting a lawnmower engine in a container ship. Not even worth firing up because you know the ship won't move anywhere.

I'd rather read about the story and implementation.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by jackomelon on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:11AM (#30007890)
Lead with the positive curiosity of wanting to know how the author did this rather than your negativity of “what’s the point?” The author could very well post a follow-up article detailing how
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dt3ft on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:52AM (#30008247)
What is there to talk about really? Hook up a USB floppy drive to an IIS machine, select the floppy as the source for the site and voila. Takes 1 minute to set up if you have a USB floppy drive hanging around.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by jackomelon on Thursday January 20, 2022 @08:07AM (#30008388)
It’s great that you already have an idea of how this was done; others may not. There’s a lot to talk about there for people unfamiliar, don’t you think? Saying otherwise would be very close-minded.

It seems to me from your other comments in this thread that you’re intent on being negative / reductionist to others work without offering much to the conversation, so I will happily disengage with you now.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dt3ft on Thursday January 20, 2022 @11:46AM (#30011303)
If you really checked my comment history, you’d see that I actually gave a warm compliment just a few days ago. I apprecite the work of others, but not necessarily when the work is trivial and keeps popping up on HN quite often.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by smhenderson on Thursday January 20, 2022 @09:13AM (#30009125)
The site loaded for me. So I can tell you; it does not use IIS. And it's running on a 386 so I doubt there's any USB involved. What he pulled off is a lot more interesting than what you're describing.

It was a fun thing he did to see if he could and when, to his apparent delight, it worked he decided to share his results. As someone who grew up in the era of floppy disks and constant worry about disk space and performance I found the whole thing very entertaining.

Sometimes we need to take a break from all the serious and just have a little fun. Items like this guy's post are why I come to HN.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dt3ft on Friday January 21, 2022 @03:41AM (#30020817)
Thank you for the clarification. I too find this interesting, especially because it runs on win 3.x. The floppy part is a bit unorthodox, but cool nonetheless!
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by IcePic on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:38AM (#30008119)
One point could well be to see how your setup handles extreme overload?

I guess different OSes and server software would handle it very differently, so using HN to trigger a huge overload would be a smart way to get some science done along those lines.

Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by dt3ft on Thursday January 20, 2022 @06:58AM (#30007789)
Glad I'm not the only one thinking like this. Are we just too old and grumpy?
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by account42 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:09AM (#30007867)
Not too old, just too grumpy.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by jackomelon on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:01AM (#30007807)
Yes
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by iqanq on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:02AM (#30007815)
That's what I was thinking. Look, I stored my site in a very slow medium. See, it's slow.
Re:A website hosted on a floppy disk (Be patient while it's ... by vmception on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:05AM (#30007836)
Reminds me of Hotline Connect file servers, sometimes people would host directories linking to different drives in their system, including the A: drive

“See, its slow.”