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Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by zachrose on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @06:44PM (#8633490)
FWIW, the Soviet film director Sergei Eisenstein once gave a lecture outlining why square screens would be superior for cinema.

"Eisenstein playfully hyped the virtues of the "dynamic square," a screen that was exactly as high as it was wide. He did so in part because to him the square was modern, charged with productive machine force. This more purely cinematic screen was, according to Eisenstein, necessary for properly showcasing the energies, conflicts, and collisions germane to the moving image arts. It would also, at least in theory, be the most accommodating frame, capable of hosting images composed for planes that were either horizontal or vertical. Eisenstein proclaimed that previous industry standards (4:3), as well as contemporaneous calls for wider screens, were nostalgic, calling forth a dated viewing regime dictated by traditional art forms."

https://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&type=summary&url=/journals...

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by frik on Thursday November 20, 2014 @11:40AM (#8636582)
I watched IMAX 2D & 3D films on the biggest screen (600 m2) in Europe. *

It was impossible to see the whole screen, that was especially great with 3D movies (Space Station 3D, etc.). Also the 2D movie premiere of The Matrix Revolutions in IMAX DMR film was awesome.

So I would prefer movie theatre/TV/monitor screens with almost 1:1 or 4:3 ratio over 16:10 or 16:9.

* The IMAX Vienna had a 600m2 screen, 24000 watt 6 channels surround sound, 458 seats, demolished in 2009: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAX#.C3.96sterreich , http://web.archive.org/web/20030422003546/http://www.imax.at...

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by micampe on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:25PM (#8633881)
IMAX movies are almost square (1.43:1) and they are indeed a better experience (let's ignore the 3D conversation, IMAX can be 2D).
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by krick on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @09:00PM (#8633989)
I wouldn't call 1.43:1 "almost square", especially concerning this opinion of Eisenstein. It's closer to "half again as height", a bit more than 4:3.

But I wouldn't trust Eisenstein much for that matter anyway.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by carlob on Thursday November 20, 2014 @04:16AM (#8634927)
Funnily enough I just saw a movie that had a square format for 99% of the duration.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3612616/

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by userbinator on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:41PM (#8632789)
As someone who mainly reads text (developer) I think widescreens are advantageous only for multimedia. As for the arguments about how human eyes are horizontal so our field of view is wide, that's true but only for peripheral vision - where everything is out-of-focus and not actually "visible" for e.g. reading something. Otherwise it's implying that humans can independently use one eye for the left side and one eye for the right, a skill that I don't know of anyone having (it's possible though, just not something that would be common.) I have a dual-monitor setup equivalent to a 5:2 aspect ratio and I still need to rotate my eyes or head horizontally to focus on the right part of the screens.

I don't know if a completely square monitor would be as well received as something at least slightly rectangular - 1920x1440 (4:3) might be a good compromise.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Scramblejams on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:45PM (#8632805)
My kingdom for a victorious return of 4:3 displays!

When I code, horizontal space is never at a premium. It's always vertical space I'm short on.

Pulling out my T42p retro laptop, with its 4:3 screen, always gives me the warm fuzzies. Love that aspect ratio.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by NamTaf on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @09:19PM (#8634053)
Widescreen in the office is really good and has a huge advantage over 4:3 in one key aspect - When you halve the horizontal resolution (8:10 or 8:9, though 8:10 is better at it) you quite closely match what two normal A4/letter documents, inside word editing applications, cover. So you can place two text documents side-by-side and they fit reasonably well.

This is incredibly useful to a whole load of office employees, who want to refer to two word docs, or 1 word doc and 1 PDF, etc. This is where widescreens shine (and 16:10 is even better than 16:9) and why I think they've excelled well in the workplace.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Al-Khwarizmi on Thursday November 20, 2014 @02:33AM (#8634715)
I work with PDFs and docs most of the time, and I find that the best setup for viewing an A4-size PDF is a 4:3 monitor rotated 90 degrees.

A 16:10 monitor rotated 90 degrees (what I have right now) is OK, but it wastes space at the top and bottom that the 4:3 monitor would be using to zoom the document more.

A horizontal 16:10 monitor with two PDF's, as you mention, is too small for me (at least with my current 24 inch monitors). Caring for the eyes is essential when you're looking at on-screen PDFs all the day. I would probably like that layout with a 30" monitor though... although maximizing windows in two monitors is still more comfortable than tiling in one big monitor.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by rwallace on Thursday November 20, 2014 @03:36AM (#8634847)
I sympathize, but a 30-inch widescreen monitor is probably easier to get hold of nowadays than a smaller one in a taller form factor.

If you're using Windows, here's a neat feature I went years without knowing: Windows key + left arrow arranges the window to occupy the left half of your monitor, and similarly with right arrow.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by alexbecker on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @09:56PM (#8634179)
Also mathematicians. When writing math (in LaTeX), I have a text editor in one half of my screen and the compiled PDF in the other.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Widdershin on Thursday November 20, 2014 @05:44AM (#8635146)
My current work setup is a Macbook Pro on the left, with two vertical 1920x1080 monitors center and right. I'm a web developer, and it's very nice for pretty much everything.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by xorcist on Thursday November 20, 2014 @04:18AM (#8634933)
That's only true if you have only one monitor.

The last few places I've been have been strong supporters of dual monitors, so I might be in a bit of a thought bubble on that, but also because monitors have gotten dirt cheap so why not. You can get dual IPS for the price of a fancy office chair.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Chris_Newton on Thursday November 20, 2014 @07:10AM (#8635334)
When I code, horizontal space is never at a premium. It's always vertical space I'm short on.

I’m seriously considering buying an LG 34UM95 monitor¹ for precisely this reason. It’s so wide (34" screen, 21:9 aspect ratio, 3440x1440 resolution) that I could sensibly divide the screen into 3-4 full-height columns with different source files open in each for development work.

Currently I have a decent Dell 30" as my main screen, but at 2560x1600 resolution I wind up using it with a 2x2 split for coding, which roughly halves the number of lines I can see at once in a long file.

I’m a little sceptical about trying a 1920x1920 screen at that physical size for similar work, simply because I’d worry about what prolonged use would do to my neck with that much vertical movement being needed all the time.

¹ http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-34UM95

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by jackalope on Thursday November 20, 2014 @09:40AM (#8635863)
I've just set up 3 different work areas consisting of laptops with external second monitors. I've settled on the configuration having the external monitor above the laptop display as being the most optimum. I find that I never need to move my neck to glance from one screen to the other, and only require a slight tilt at the waist to comfortably switch for longer periods. Contrast this to a side-by-side configuration, where it feels awkward to merely shift my eyes sideways, so I move my neck more. This in itself isn't so bad, until I need to focus on one screen that's off-center for prolonged periods, keeping my head in an awkward angle that doesn't seem healthy. Naturally, any configuration should still be augmented with regular stretching/activity breaks.

tl;dr: Vertical: Mostly eye movement. Horizontal: Lots of neck movement.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by npongratz on Thursday November 20, 2014 @08:55AM (#8635676)
The ultrawide LG is quite nice, I trialed a coworker's for a week or two. Beautiful screen and great features, and using it was interesting. It was really nice to have four or more full-height source files tiled. However, from my typical centered vantage point, windows near the corners appeared skewed. (They weren't physically skewed of course, this was just because of the angle I was viewing). I found myself rolling my chair left and right so that I could more closely center myself in front of the current window, which wasn't a big deal, just something I noticed myself doing.

Given proper resources, I'd consider getting one. Just wanted to share my funny anecdote that it's so large, I rolled back and forth to take advantage of it all :)

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Chris_Newton on Thursday November 20, 2014 @10:29AM (#8636149)
Thanks for sharing your experience.

However, from my typical centered vantage point, windows near the corners appeared skewed.

Presumably this is the advantage of the new curved screen version¹, though so far it’s considerably more expensive and it looks like at least here in the UK no-one has it available for immediate purchase.

¹ http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-34UC97

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by ptaipale on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:04PM (#8632942)
I really wish that manufacturers would start making decent laptops with 4:3 screens.

They call these 16:9 displays widescreen. I call them shallowscreen: they are just don't have th evertical space for work. Why are my work tools made with screen form factors that are only suitable for watching movies?

And yes, I love my T43, which has a lovely display and keyboard even though it is almost 10 years old. Alas, it is just underpowered today.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by dspillett on Thursday November 20, 2014 @09:55AM (#8635971)
> When I code, horizontal space is never at a premium. It's always vertical space I'm short on.

Last time I completely rebuilt my home setup I got monitors that can be rotated into portrait. I've not used the facility nearly as much as I thought I would, but then again I've not done much development since so that might be why.

Having one portrait and one landscape seems to be idea for web development: portrait for coding and landscape for output (as that is what the user's will likely have) & the things that don't fit properly in 1080 pixels wide.

You don't want to large a monitor in portrait for coding though: you'll be looking down a lot (or up+down if you sit with your head centred) which might be quite bad for posture. Beyond a certain size you are probably better off with a large monitor and some UI hack to artificially split it into columns.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by DrStalker on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:07PM (#8632964)
Rotate your monitor and work in 1200x1920.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by AdamTReineke on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @07:14PM (#8633628)
I run two 1080p monitors in portrait on my desk at work. It's unreal how many interfaces assume you're widescreen: images are cut off abruptly after they scale to the width of the screen, horizontal scrollbars appear as default widths of panels in apps assume a widescreen monitor, and Excel spreadsheets flow off to the right. I'd love a 1920x1920 monitor.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by wtallis on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @07:39PM (#8633736)
1080 is absolutely not wide enough for today's software and web sites, but 1200 is mostly manageable. Anything that is too wide for 1200 either has too many columns as an attempt to use the absurd width of most monitors, or its lines of text are too long to be readable.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by MrDom on Thursday November 20, 2014 @02:03AM (#8634678)
Another issue I had with a portrait monitor is, once you hit a certain size, you don't use the extra vertical real estate. You wind up moving your head up and down (mostly down) and you leave your head like that for a while sometimes. It's terrible for your back and neck, even standing.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by imanaccount247 on Thursday November 20, 2014 @09:08AM (#8635725)
>1080 is absolutely not wide enough for today's software and web sites

It certainly is. My browser is never even that wide now, and the only thing I ever run full screen is games.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by gagege on Thursday November 20, 2014 @10:10AM (#8636048)
I just made my browser window smaller in agreement with your comment.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by jonknee on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:58PM (#8633983)
It's not unreal for desktop apps to assume the user has a wide screen, every computer you buy has one!
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by nitrogen on Thursday November 20, 2014 @12:41AM (#8634568)
Not everybody maximizes their windows, though.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by userbinator on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:55PM (#8633970)
Somewhat hard to do that with a laptop...

4:3 is about right for a laptop since you can't make them too "tall" or they'll become difficult to handle, much like books.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by pdabbadabba on Thursday November 20, 2014 @09:36AM (#8635840)
> When I code, horizontal space is never at a premium. It's always vertical space I'm short on.

It seems to me that a 16:9 monitor is exactly what you need -- rotated vertically. Get one that pivots!

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by lomnakkus on Thursday November 20, 2014 @07:05AM (#8635321)
> When I code, horizontal space is never at a premium. It's always vertical space I'm short on.

This sounds really weird to me. I absolutely relish the ability to have an editor and terminal side by side without either of them feeling "squeezed up". If you're using an IDE you can also get a lot more space for actual code even with those annoying side areas that IDEs tend to have.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by dedward on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:47PM (#8633200)
With enough size and resolution, it really doesn't matter. After all, you can always use the space for something, right?

I recently upgrade to a 5k imac... and it's an absurd amount of space. I don't see the point in griping about aspect ratio when it's merely size and density that we really want.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by glhaynes on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @06:18PM (#8633347)
Agreed. On a small notebook display I tend to work with one or a small few windows at a time, usually taking up most or all of the display area. Aspect ratio is highly relevant to my experience there and actually guides the aspect ratio of my windows.

But on a large desktop display, I end up with lots more windows at any one time, including lots of small windows that stay around and in one place for a long time: things like notes, feeds, things to come back to, etc. And, in that large space, I can size each window as large as I want, so I much more often can use a natural-feeling aspect ratio for its content. In other words, large displays are the only ones for me in which a "desktop metaphor" GUI actually feels and functions like a desktop. So, on a large display (aside from games/movies), I don't care too much about aspect ratio, I'll fill up the edges of whatever space I've got.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by eitally on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @09:14PM (#8634030)
Agreed. I couldn't even tell you what my current wallpaper is because I'm never not working in full screen maximized windows.

My current fave monitor at home is my ca2008 Dell 2405 with all it's 1920x1200 glory. The Pixel is second, but a distant second because the screen is so small that if you actually use the full resolution you can't read a darn thing.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by vacri on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:25PM (#8633884)
We have a 'horizontality' to our vision, not because our eyes are side-by-side, but because that's how we interact with the world; and how we grow up doing so[1]. We have a slightly narrower arc of vision vertically due to brow and cheek, but even so, the stuff we see 'up' and 'down' is low-density information.

What's happening in the sky or on the ceiling isn't particularly useful to us, and as long as we have reasonably sure footing, the same is true of the ground or floor. We spend our days interacting with things mostly in the horizontal visual plane. Things that we approach or that approach us mostly move in this plane as well.

[1] There were a few famous experiments a few decades ago showing that what we see as we grow up affects the development of the visual system: https://computervisionblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/cats-and...

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by leoc on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @09:38PM (#8634121)
Don't discount the value of screen space that's normally out in the nearer part of your peripheral vision, though. It's not as valuable as screenage that's normally in the centre of your vision, but it's still very useful (assuming it isn't too distorted by the viewing angle). You may have to move your eyes and maybe even slightly move your head to see what's out there clearly, but (I strongly assume - I'm not an expert) that kind of glancing should still be a lot more (yuck) "spatial" and less distracting than having to alt-tab or whatever to reveal the same information and then to hide it again. So in concrete terms, a 40" 16:9 4K monitor like http://www.tomshardware.com/news/philips-4k-bdm4065uc-monito... which has slightly greater vertical height than the 26.5" 1:1 1920×1920 screen as well as higher ppi ought to be preferable if price, horizontal desk space or whatever don't rule it out.

Unfortunately, OSes and other software tend to mess this up: in particular, the fact that those handy fullscreen commands actually fill the screen with the selected window or picture or video or whatever is no longer good news if some or all of the edges of your screen are far enough away from the comfortable centre area of your vision (see http://blog.codinghorror.com/the-large-display-paradox/ ). This was appropriate behaviour in the past, when both pixels and screen inches were limited and expensive and so it was safe to assume that the whole of the screen was well within the user's central viewing area—and in fact was probably covering much less of that central area than was at all ideal. Nowadays the user should be able to define a central fullscreen area that (possibly) doesn't take up the whole screen: then (by default etc.) fullscreened items should be expanded to the limits of the "fullscreen" area and no more. The rest of the screen can be filled with other information: maybe the other open windows pushed to the side in an OS X Exposé-like manner, or things like image metadata for a viewed image. The brightness of the outer area should be subdued to prevent it from distracting from the central image. (A practical use for whizzy translucency effects!). The information out in the "gutter" will be glanceable, but won't feel like it's impinging on your view of the fullscreened item (if it does, you didn't make the fullscreen area large enough).

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by balabaster on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:04PM (#8632950)
I flat out love my 1920:1080 resolution - however, because of the IDE I use, I'm kind of tied to having panes down the sides of my code. A 4:3 sucks in this scenario, 1:1 would suck even more - if the resolution is not high enough. I would imagine that 1920:1920 would be awesome - vertical real estate is awesome for reading... but I don't want that at the cost of code navigation. My gut says that 1920:1920 would be sufficiently dense to get the best of both worlds.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by acqq on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:57PM (#8632891)
I use 24" 1920x1200 for work and I would really, really enjoy x1440 (220 pixels more on Y) with the same screen width.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by shmerl on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @11:09PM (#8634395)
I also use 16:10 only. The dominance of 16:9 is really getting annoying. It's harder and harder to get 16:10 monitors these days, especially anything with higher resolution than 1920x1200.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by ademarre on Thursday November 20, 2014 @02:46AM (#8634742)
Dell is coming out with a 25" 2560x1440 monitor; model u2515h.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/32.htm#dell_u2515h

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by acqq on Thursday November 20, 2014 @05:26AM (#8635099)
But it's in the opposite direction: it's even wider, not higher than 16:9

16 / 9 = 1.77

2560 / 1140 = 2.25

It's closer to today's CinemaScope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinemaScope "today it generally refers to any 2.35:1, 2.39:1, or 2.40:1"

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by ademarre on Thursday November 20, 2014 @04:53PM (#8638406)
Like provemewrong pointed out, 2560x1440 is 16:9. I also much prefer 1920x1200 over 1920x1080, but I find it's not so much a preference for 16:10 over 16:9, but rather 1080 simply isn't enough vertical space. I think a 25" 2560x1440 might be pretty nice.

  resolution    size    width x height  ppi
   2560x1440     25"    21.8" x 12.3"   117
   1920x1200     24"    20.4" x 12.7"    94
   1920x1080     24"    20.9" x 11.8"    92
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by provemewrong on Thursday November 20, 2014 @09:50AM (#8635948)
It's 1440 not 1140. So it's still 16:9.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Gravityloss on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:12PM (#8632319)
Not so much of a stretch. We use Dells with a rotatable screen at our work place and about half of the people keep one vertical and one horizontal monitor.

Reading logs or browsing code is quite nice with the vertical screen, as is reading some vertical oriented pdf materials. Cat videos are usually watched on the horizontal screen. :)

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by crististm on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:51PM (#8632534)
How many of your coworkers noticed the difference in image quality in portrait mode? The monitors are optimized for "landscape" and when you put them in "portrait" you get a very different color hue on each eye.

I found it so disturbing that I never used the monitors in portrait mode.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Luc on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:00PM (#8632590)
Not all panels have this problem. Of my monitors, only the one with the cheap TN panel has it (and it's so obvious it would drive me mad if I had to use it vertically). My screen with a PVA panel is fine.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by astrodust on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:52PM (#8632537)
It depends entirely on your panel and how well your operating system handles sub-pixel anti-aliasing. Some panels shift dramatically, and some operating systems do a terrible job and you'll notice all kinds of fringing.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Gravityloss on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:32PM (#8632739)
Those panels from different lots have somewhat different colors anyway, even in the same orientation, and you can't tune them to be equal very easily, at least I gave up. They have pretty good viewing angles too. So it doesn't make it better or worse to turn either one 90 degrees.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by astrange on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @10:30PM (#8634288)
Did you use a hardware calibrator? It shouldn't be hard to get a Dell monitor to a calibrated white point - they're not bad unless you got a TN panel model.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by baddox on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:08PM (#8632632)
For productivity, ignoring the aesthetics of letterboxing for videos or games, aspect ratio comparisons really just come down to more resolution/desktop space is better. A 1920x1920 monitor is "squarer" than a 1920x1080 monitor, sure, but you can also just think of it as a 1920x1080 monitor with more space in the vertical axis. For productivity, making either axis longer or higher resolution is just better (obviously until you approach extremes which are physically unwieldy).
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by razster on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:25PM (#8632713)
Linked is a photo of my current workspace. I use one in landscape and the other in portrait. http://i.imgur.com/CWYv6ZG.jpg

The setup is perfect for Photoshop, Illustrator, and After Effects - I can set all my menu/preview windows on the portrait, landscape for primary.

Could I use a monitor like that? Not really, I thought about it for a while but it just wouldn't help me anymore than what I use now.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Stratoscope on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @06:01PM (#8633261)
1920x1920 on a 26.5" panel is only 102 pixels per inch. That is a low pixel density for a modern monitor. It's the same density as a 1920x1080 21.5" panel - certainly usable, but you won't get the crisp text you'd have on a higher density display.

Of course, many monitors are worse. A 1920x1080 27" monitor is only 82 pixels per inch!

The monitor I'm buying next is probably the Dell UP2414Q. With 3840x2160 resolution on a 23.8" panel, it has 185 pixels per inch. It's expensive and you need a machine that can drive it properly, but that is a nice pixel density.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by tacoman on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:03PM (#8633805)
I'm near sighted. My eyeglass prescription is about -6.5. Using either windows or linux, anything over about 105 dpi is too small and I need to get closer to the monitor than what is acceptable from an ergonomics stand point.

If I need to use something with a higher dpi for any length of time, I have crank up the font size which causes some problems in some applications.

Right now I use a 19" 1280x1024 and a 20" 1600x1200. A monitor like this would be great.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by gioele on Thursday November 20, 2014 @08:02AM (#8635493)
> Using either windows or linux, anything over about 105 dpi is too small and I need to get closer to the monitor than what is acceptable from an ergonomics stand point.

I see this as a big failure of "modern" graphic systems. Having a 105 ppi should just mean more refined graphics, not smaller size of rendered objects.

The way a GUI appears on the screen should be a function of the screen size and the viewer distance, not a function of the screen ppi! We must get rid of all the layers of hacks that we have accumulated over the years (the reference 72 ppi, for example).

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by imanaccount247 on Thursday November 20, 2014 @09:18AM (#8635760)
>I see this as a big failure of "modern" graphic systems.

Absolutely. This is one of the main reasons we were stuck with such incredibly shitty low res displays for so long. Up until windows vista, high DPI monitors were simply unusable in windows. Even now they have problems.

We still have a similar problem forcing us into having tiny screens. Windows and all the desktop environments that copied it are absolutely worthless at their primary function: managing windows. So people prefer two small monitors over one large monitor simply because the two small monitors allow an easy "make this take up half my screen space". Something that is of course trivially easy to implement, but most "modern" windowing systems don't care about at all.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by gioele on Thursday November 20, 2014 @12:11PM (#8636771)
> make this take up half my screen space

For what it's worth, in GNOME 3 and Unity (Ubuntu) moving a window to the left or right border will make that window half of the screen. Same with top and bottom border. Moving a window to one of the corners resizes it to a quarter of the screen.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Stratoscope on Thursday November 20, 2014 @01:27PM (#8637220)
Windows 8.1 has keyboard shortcuts to make a window take half the screen, the full screen, etc. Hold down the Windows key and try the various arrow keys. You may be pleasantly surprised.

There are all sorts of other useful shortcuts that use the Windows key as a modifier, for example Windows+E to open a File Explorer window. Basically, try Windows+(every key) to see what it does.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by imanaccount247 on Thursday November 20, 2014 @01:42PM (#8637301)
I'm aware, but until the majority of people are using a system where basic window management exists, vendors have little incentive to sell double wide monitors because so few people would be willing to use them. So those of us who can make good use of them have to wait forever, just like we did for reasonable DPI LCDs.

Also, even in the newest windows it is still crippled. Applications can prevent themselves from being resized like that, and often things like games that you would want to run in borderless window mode can not be moved around using windows shortcut keys.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by aduitsis on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @06:53PM (#8633545)
Are you gonna sit very close to the screen?

You probably will sit half a meter (1.64ft) from a 26.5" monitor, maybe more, right?

According to isthisretina.com the density of a 26.5" 1920x1920 becomes equivalent to retina (326ppi) at about 34 inches (86cm).

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Stratoscope on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:09PM (#8633828)
I always position all of my monitors at the same distance from my eyes. That's because I'm an old guy and my eyes can't focus to different distances easily like they used to. So I have a pair of single vision computer glasses - like a reading prescription, but adjusted for the approximately 20" between my eyes and the laptop screen (almost exactly the half-meter you mentioned).

Typically I have three displays in a row: a monitor on the left and two computers on the right, a MacBook Pro Retina and a ThinkPad W520 (145 ppi). Whichever computer I'm primarily working on that day goes in the middle and is connected to the external display.

I wouldn't be able to use a display 34" from my eyes unless I used a different pair of glasses, and then I'd have to switch glasses back and forth to look at the different screens! Unless I gave up using the laptop screens at all, but I'm not about to do that.

So with all my monitors at the same distance, what feels like a "retina" density is the same on all of them.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by aduitsis on Thursday November 20, 2014 @04:36AM (#8634987)
Beg your pardon, I wasn't trying to suggest that you should sit further from the screen, not at all.

I was just stressing the fact that depending on the size and distance, even sub-100ppi screen densities might be good enough.

Admittedly if you sit 20" from the screen regardless of its size you may want a slightly higher ppi.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Stratoscope on Thursday November 20, 2014 @05:17AM (#8635069)
I wasn't disputing what you were saying - just pointing out that the idea of a lower pixel density on a monitor that's farther way doesn't work for me, because my eyes can't focus back and forth like that. All my monitors have to be at about the same distance.

If someone can easily focus at different distances, then of course that opens up more options.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by devindotcom on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:54PM (#8632555)
More weird panels, please! I still want a bare-bones monochrome laptop.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by PhantomGremlin on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:30PM (#8632734)
> I still want a bare-bones monochrome laptop.

That's not a bad idea, from both a cost and power standpoint. I wonder why nobody has done it?

Same thing with digital cameras. There is a good use case for a grey scale image sensor. Higher sensitivity, fewer artifacts, lower power. But, sadly, nobody has built an affordable one yet. Sure it's not a large market, but there are hundreds of cameras that are almost identical, why doesn't somebody dare to do something different?

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by aeturnum on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:45PM (#8632808)
There are various after-market places that will modify your camera to take black and white photos[0]. Considering how well loved black and white film is, and how many people running the industry have their roots in film, I am sure this idea has been looked at. However, the economics of camera making are really harsh. If you look at the numbers in the 'mirrorless' camera segment (a change from the SLR form-factor with wider appeal than a B&W-only camera), you can see how dangerous R&D spending can be.[1]

[0] https://www.maxmax.com/b&w_conversion.htm [1] http://www.43rumors.com/january-shipment-report-dslr-crash-m...

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by devindotcom on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:00PM (#8632912)
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by PhantomGremlin on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:12PM (#8633006)
Searching DP Review, I see I can buy that camera for $7,950 on Amazon. More recently Leica introduced the Leica M Edition 60 rangefinder with interchangeable lenses. It's on Amazon for $895.

It's a somewhat apples-and-oranges comparison, but maybe that's the price you need to pay for such a niche camera.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by devindotcom on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @06:26PM (#8633387)
Actually the Ed 60 costs even more than the Monochrom. You're not going to get a red dot on anything for less than a grand, though some of the ones that are rebadged Panasonics can be got cheap (though they're never worth the money).

It's pretty much out of the question, alas....

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by DanBC on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:48PM (#8633204)
There are greyscale monitors. These tend to be very expensive and used for medical imaging. I've never used one.

http://www.necdisplay.com/category/medical-diagnostic-displa...

http://www.necdisplay.com/p/medical-diagnostic-displays/md21...

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by acveilleux on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @07:23PM (#8633670)
We have a workstation with 4 EIZO monochrome medical monitors at work (to test radiology software ofc) and the resolution is astounding as is the 10-bit greyscale image. The price tag however, well, it's the greater than the sum of all the other monitors we have...
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by tgb on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @09:39PM (#8634124)
Why are these so expensive? You could get a top-of-the-line new 5k iMac for that greyscale 2048 x 2560 monitor. Presumably it's all the calibration and certification that goes in, but wow those are pricey.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by thrownaway2424 on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @11:54PM (#8634476)
These typically have many bits of grey and a calibrated response curve that is stable over time. Specialty stuff.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by tgb on Thursday November 20, 2014 @08:11AM (#8635524)
The linked greyscale monitor above only had 8-bit greyscale, but describes it as "256 levels of gray out of a palette of 3826". Does that mean anything significant?
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by thrownaway2424 on Thursday November 20, 2014 @10:51AM (#8636280)
Yes, it means the monitor has an 8-bit host interface but each value on the range [0,256) is mapped to a range of levels [0,3826) that the panel can actually produce. The number seems weird, I'm not sure why it would be 3826. Maybe someone can explain.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by seanp2k2 on Thursday November 20, 2014 @01:25AM (#8634649)
Because insurance is paying for it anyway, so why not develop unnecessary specialty stuff that uses all proprietary connectors, power supplies, etc.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by knotty66 on Thursday November 20, 2014 @07:51AM (#8635457)
Economies of scale.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by copperx on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:42PM (#8632790)
I have always longed for an affordable BW digital camera. No Bayer filters!
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by wtracy on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:35PM (#8633127)
Heh, the B&W RED camera costs more than the color version, and people still buy it.

I've seen zilch available in the consumer space, though.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by wtracy on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:41PM (#8633162)
It's not quite what you're looking for, but the Kindle Paperwhite will apparently pair with a Bluetooth keyboard.

EDIT: Better choice: The OLPC lets you turn off the screen backlight and that gets you a grayscale display that works even under direct sunlight.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by twic on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @07:37PM (#8633730)
I was discussing monitors with a colleague today, and we speculated that what we wanted was an e-ink monitor - not a laptop, just a monitor. Use a conventional flat panel for the main screen, but have one or two e-ink screens off to the side for documentation etc.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by ibrahima on Thursday November 20, 2014 @01:10AM (#8634633)
I would love to have an e-ink whiteboard type thing that I could just leave up all the time without worrying about power consumption. I'd say maybe the top third would be for calendar events/digital todo lists that sync automatically, and the bottom 2/3 would be a writing surface that would capture and sync its contents as well. It'd be amazing. I have a 10" Android tablet with Wacom digitizer which I do use a lot for brainstorming so that I have everything digitized, but I'd really like a bigger surface that I can leave on all the time.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by devindotcom on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @06:03PM (#8660316)
You might be interested in the Boogie Board Sync. Kind of ugly looking but might fit your needs for a handy digital whiteboard that syncs up.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by techknow on Saturday November 22, 2014 @04:34PM (#8646723)
That's pretty cool. Learn more about the Kindle Paperwhite at http://www.ereadercomparison.co/
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by devindotcom on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @06:27PM (#8633398)
Yeah, I thought about those. The OLPC is just too weird and outdated TBH, and e-paper devices (as much as I love them) are not reactive enough for active use like writing and editing. There's just no real option for now.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Dylan16807 on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @07:45PM (#8633757)
So what exactly is your goal? If you don't want anything that has advantages over a typical color LCD, then use driver settings to make it grayscale. Is that a 'fake' option?
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by devindotcom on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @06:02PM (#8660308)
sorry, a little late to respond, but no, that doesn't quite fit the bill. A native-monochrome LCD would actually have advantages over color LCDs because you have reduced bits per pixel, need less power per pixel, and actually increase the number of addressable pixels. E-paper displays are great for reading from but not good for interacting with in any active way. Pixel Qi is an interesting medium but I'm not sure it's quite there yet?
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by 3rd3 on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:20PM (#8633857)
The SOL Vision monitor [1] is currently the only affordable screen in that regard (without hacking). It's specifically built for outdoor applications and has HDMI, VGA, and RCA/AV input, but unfortunately it’s limited to 1024 by 768 pixels.

[1]: http://www.solcomputer.com/sunlight-readable/sol-vision-moni...

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by dismal2 on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:59PM (#8632578)
At that size something like 2880x2880 would be more "modern"
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by kylec on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:32PM (#8633114)
Curiously, that's exactly the same number of pixels as a "4K" 3840x2160 screen. Should be drivable by graphics cards that can drive 4K.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by shurcooL on Thursday November 20, 2014 @12:51AM (#8634593)
But that's only 1440x1440 if you divide it by two.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by simonh on Thursday November 20, 2014 @08:00AM (#8635488)
It's an interesting idea, but I recently got a 5k iMac and now I can feel the jaggies on the 1080p displays I use at work cutting my eyeballs. The longer I use the Mac at home, the more I get used to it and the more annoying the screens at work become.

For sub-27" displays these days I think 4k is definitely the way to go. Affordable modern graphics cards are perfectly capable of driving such displays now and I think, or at least hope, that by the end of next year they will have become a pretty standard mainstream choice. A non-standard aspect ratio is all well and fine, but if it's still at standard dpi resolution it's just icing on a cake that's getting towards the end of it's shelf life.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by rsync on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:28PM (#8632409)
This isn't that groundbreaking - there are plenty of 1:1 ratio screens that are made and sold for the air traffic control industry:

http://www.barco.com/en/Products-Solutions/Displays-monitors...

However, what would be interesting is if this was priced at normal monitor prices ... the ATC monitors are incredibly expensive.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by cma on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:42PM (#8632484)
Read the article:

"But after a few minutes, I realized that non-standard monitor sizes are most likely abundant in various industries, such as medical, when they are designed for a specific purpose and quality. So while a 1:1 monitor is something interesting to see in the consumer space, perhaps it might not be so new when considering industrial use scenarios."

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by marcosscriven on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:12PM (#8632654)
I immediately thought of the medical usage, but then for scan results I thought they required a far higher res?
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by RachelF on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @06:57PM (#8633562)
Square is good. EIZO monitors are normally eye-wateringly expensive, at 5-10x the price of a budget panel as they are targeted at the medical industry.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by noinsight on Thursday November 20, 2014 @08:43AM (#8635625)
Standard Eizo monitors aren't that expensive, but more expensive than cheapo brands.

They're all made in Japan though so they're not the usual fare.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Hoffmannnn on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:34PM (#8633913)
Many monitors these days can be rotated on their side (check your stand mount!), and windows natively supports portrait mode.

My dual monitor setup has one landscape, one portrait, and I'm never going back. Viewing documents & code is just so much more convenient.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by friism on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:44PM (#8632498)
Perfect for Instagram.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by mark212 on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:35PM (#8632746)
FWIW -- square monitors have long been popular on financial trading floors. I think there's a preset on the Bloomberg terminal for this ratio, but it's been a while.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by sciurus on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @02:26PM (#8632065)
I'm curious which resolution people would rather have: 1920x1920 or 2560x1440?
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by KhalPanda on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:07PM (#8632293)
2560x1440.

My eyes are positioned horizontally in my head, giving a "wide" field of view. So a widescreen monitor always feels more comfortable. Unless anyone has a single, perfectly round eye in the middle of their face, I don't know why you'd want a square monitor. :) That's my opinion, anyway!

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by cpr on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:25PM (#8632711)
Agreed, which is I enjoy my new 3440 x 1440 LG. I don't always use the whole width of the monitor, but I really enjoy spreading windows over more than the usual 2560 width.

Any reference materials can be on the very edges with a very slight turn of the head or a big eye swivel.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by adamnemecek on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:53PM (#8632862)
I agree but if you got two 1920x1920 that would be (I'm guessing) a lot better than two 2560x1440.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by baddox on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:19PM (#8632682)
Since we're comparing two monitors with the same number of pixels, I'd probably pick 1440p, mainly because it's more ideal for watching fullscreen 16:9 videos, and because I'm more used to scanning left and right than up and down (which is probably an evolutionary result).

I've heard that the "aspect ratio" of humans' field of view is approximately 4:3, so if that's the goal, you'd want...2217x1662. 1:1 is actually closer to 4:3 than 16:9. My guess is that the tendency to scan left and right rather than up and down is the stronger argument for wider aspect ratios than the human field of view argument.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by hackertux on Thursday November 20, 2014 @10:21AM (#8636105)
According to wikipedia, A 4:3 ratio mimics human eyesight visual angle of 155°h x 120°v, that is 4:3.075, almost exactly the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_%28image%29#Pract...

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by saeguaiga on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:03PM (#8632933)
Docker for your eyeballs lets you virtualize most of the marquee or crawl (and a level view from a facing camera) for great ergonomic progress. Marking this as the day 3D sine-scrolling stylesheet aggregation (which you can wipe down or replay every show iteration) took over.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by shurcooL on Thursday November 20, 2014 @12:53AM (#8634601)
That makes sense only if you're trying to look at your entire monitor at once, rather than just a portion of it at a time and moving your eyes to context switch.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by nodata on Thursday November 20, 2014 @03:56AM (#8634889)
+1 My eyes are also configured in this way.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by themodelplumber on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:09PM (#8632639)
Great, now I'm going to reflect on my physiology every time I see an Instagram photo. (Good point though)
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by rootbear on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:06PM (#8632286)
For modern wide monitors, I prefer 16:10, or 2560x1600. On my linux system at home I have two 1600x1200 monitors and I like that arrangement for coding. Having lots of vertical space for tall editor windows is a Good Thing. This square monitor would be interesting to try out.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by rodgerd on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:04PM (#8632610)
Depends. Gaming, photo editing, anything simulating the eyes' field of view? 2560x1440. Writing, coding, reading, where I want narrow, high columns of information? The square screen.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by aranjedeath on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:32PM (#8632431)
1920x1920, hands down. (higher numbers also accepted, as long as 1:1)
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by JoshTriplett on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:28PM (#8632729)
1920x1920 for work, 2560x1440 for play.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by zokier on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:40PM (#8632475)
I suppose it is highly use-case dependent if this is better than dual vertical 1920x1080 monitors. You essentially are choosing between having a bezel in the middle or losing 240 horizontal pixels. For having two things side-by-side the dual monitor setup is obvious win, so for coding etc I'd lean towards that
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by deciplex on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @09:56PM (#8634178)
Why 1920? I would rather have 1440 (or 2160) as it would allow me to put it to the side of a 2K or 4K monitor and keep the same vertical resolution. Unless you're planning to put them in an over-under configuration (pretty rare in the home, at least) I don't see the point of this resolution.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by rebootthesystem on Thursday November 20, 2014 @03:00AM (#8634772)
We run three 1920 x 1200 monitors on all of our engineering workstations. In some cases I could see the value of running four but three is amazing for productivity. Going to three 1920 x 1920 monitors would be even better.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by rdl on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:12PM (#8632647)
I'm pretty happy with a $250 4k 39" seiki and a dell u2410 1200x1920 (portrait) at work, but a square display would be great on a tabletop or otherwise in nonstandard positions.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Synergyse on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:26PM (#8632718)
Where did you pick that up for $250?
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by rdl on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:19PM (#8633045)
$230 (TigerDirect with a rebate, from slickdeals).

Seems to be OOS virtually everywhere, though.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by swah on Thursday November 20, 2014 @08:57AM (#8635679)
I always thought widescreens "were here to stay" because its easier to move our heads to left/right than up/down... isn't this true?
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by murbard2 on Thursday November 20, 2014 @09:05AM (#8635707)
There's that, and also the fact that our visual field roughly has a 3:2 aspect ratio, so more rectangular than 4:3 but less than 16:10
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Mchl on Thursday November 20, 2014 @07:43AM (#8635429)
Meh. Doesn't have pivot. Would not buy.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by nodefortytwo on Thursday November 20, 2014 @10:50AM (#8636269)
I have 4 screens, 2 24" either side of a 27" and a 15" macbook pro below the 27. I find it much more comfortable to look left and right than i do looking down towards the macbook which is what i feel a square monitor would be like, more up and down movement as opposed to horizontal.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by CompuHacker on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @04:59PM (#8632902)
I've been looking for a 1:1 monitor for years before this; they're only made custom for military HUDs and such. I was so disappointed, especially in the people who called 5:4 and 4:3 "square" in response to forum posts asking about it.

Hoping for a power of 2 square model.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by asgard1024 on Thursday November 20, 2014 @04:59AM (#8635044)
Great to see that! I am only worried this will be ultra-expensive based on the assumption that people who actually want to do some real work on a computer (and not just play games or watch movies) do it for money, so they can pay the price.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by trillcode on Thursday November 20, 2014 @11:28AM (#8636506)
I think the greatest push for 1:1 resolutions becoming popular would come from how similar it is to the usage on a phone. With how popular mobile technologies are, and most consumers are usually consuming their apps in a vertical fashion.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by myrandomcomment on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:43PM (#8633172)
I have an LG 34UM95-P which is a 34" 21:9 UltraWide with a resolution of 3440x1440. Once you get used to how wide the monitor is it works quite well. This replaced 2 x 1920x1440 29". It is on a mount on a standing desk.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @08:35PM (#8633915)
I just got the small 29" version from Dell. It uses an LG panel. It's a good alternative to having 2 monitors.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by RexRollman on Thursday November 20, 2014 @06:57AM (#8635299)
Speaking as someone who loves my 1280x1024 monitor, this sound great.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by logfromblammo on Thursday November 20, 2014 @12:02PM (#8636717)
I would prefer an 8.09:5 aspect ratio screen that can easily be rotated 1/4 turn.

But that's mostly because my love for (sqrt(5)+1)/2 is near-Pythagorean in its scope.

Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by pervycreeper on Thursday November 20, 2014 @12:20AM (#8634521)
Are the pixels themselves perfectly square? Just from looking at it (on my screen), it seems a bit taller than it is wide.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by LeoPanthera on Thursday November 20, 2014 @03:08AM (#8634793)
This is a common optical illusion. Perfect squares usually look taller than they are wide, to human eyes.
Re:EIZO Announces Monitor with 1920x1920 Resolution by Animats on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @07:00PM (#8633577)
OK, a square monitor. Maybe Apple will announce a round monitor, with a round GUI to go with it. Apple fans would be camping out in front of Apple retail outlets for the thing.