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Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by Neywiny on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:08AM (#46255567)
As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by jwr on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:45AM (#46255895)
The management of reddit doesn't seem to use reddit at all and they seem to be unaware of the fact that a) the "new" layout just isn't that great, and b) their mobile app is terrible.

They killed third-party apps, which were way better than their garbage app and they don't seem to realize how much it annoys their users.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by tapoxi on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:16PM (#46256113)
They don't care about their users, they trapped people in and people aren't migrating to alternatives in droves.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by shawabawa3 on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:19PM (#46256143)
More importantly they serve ads and capture all of the revenue from them
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by _DeadFred_ on Saturday December 13, 2025 @01:30PM (#46256740)
Time for a reverse Digg exodus.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by kayart_dev on Sunday December 14, 2025 @07:18AM (#46262543)
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by kstrauser on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:57AM (#46255971)
I thank them for that, because forcing me back to their horrid app broke me of my habit of hanging out there.

I’ve got six digits of karma, and I’d rather walk away than suffer through its awful UI.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by juliusceasar on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:33PM (#46256262)
As a none user; what is a karma? Fantasy points?
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by jtokoph on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:38PM (#46256298)
Yes. It’s profile points. You earn one per upvote on your content. Just like here on HN
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by Neywiny on Saturday December 13, 2025 @01:58PM (#46256956)
Excuse you, it's nothing like that. These fake internet points mean something real and tangible. Those fake internet points are just made up nonsense. (Heavy sarcasm)
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by xingped on Saturday December 13, 2025 @01:12PM (#46256577)
Same. Only thing that ever managed to break me of my reddit habit. No 3rd party apps? Reddit may as well no longer exist as far as I'm concerned.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by midnitewarrior on Saturday December 13, 2025 @02:34PM (#46257215)
Welcome back to reddit! There is a third party app called Red Reader, it's free.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedReader/

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by xingped on Saturday December 13, 2025 @03:21PM (#46257619)
Lol, not only do I not want to jump back into that pit after having already climbed out, the site is entirely infested with AI bots now. So thanks but no thanks. It's a pretty worthless site now.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by kstrauser on Saturday December 13, 2025 @02:41PM (#46257287)
Nah. I’m not going to kick that habit twice.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by rvba on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:12PM (#46256072)
They are doing everything they can to increase number of users before IPO.

Redit from a text based place, became a place driven by pictures (Can we call that "instagrami-zation"?).

The thing, is that discussion is what made reddit good. Now it's mostly low quality pictures, bots and comments written by marketers.

Then AI models and google search are trained on this garbage.

I wonder if someone will finally disrupt reddit

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by kstrauser on Saturday December 13, 2025 @02:24PM (#46257145)
They’ve already IPOed.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by afavour on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:50PM (#46256390)
I disagree, I think the new layout and the app are bad for Reddit power users. But for someone brand new to Reddit today they work fine.

And that’s the point. They care about boosting their user base, not satisfying power users.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by lofaszvanitt on Saturday December 13, 2025 @01:08PM (#46256546)
Sigh, power user doesn't mean the individual is an alien with some quirky taste. Oh, the contrary. It means someone who has a wider spectrum and those who are not power users are still on the spectrum, but theirs is shorter, but overlap with the PU's. So if it is good for the power users it is almost always good for the rest of the world. Let that sink in.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by jwr on Sunday December 14, 2025 @09:16AM (#46263137)
Let's take an example: if there are several images, you click on the "next" button (keys do not work!) several times, and if you are not careful, the last click gets you a full-screen image, because the button has disappeared and clicking in the same place now magnifies the image.

How is that "fine".

In the mobile app, even swiping from the left edge to go back doesn't work reliably.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by midnitewarrior on Saturday December 13, 2025 @01:29PM (#46256732)
Not all third-party readers, the for-profit ones.

Red Reader still exists.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedReader/

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by biglyburrito on Tuesday December 16, 2025 @08:23PM (#46297109)
I believe they're full aware of all of these things, & they simply don't care because they know that millions of people will continue to use Reddit in spite of all this.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by stevesimmons on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:13AM (#46255603)
Am I going mad or do some of those old.reddit comments slope downhill?
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by traverseda on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:17AM (#46255629)
No, the subreddit has applied custom css to do that. It's the mildly infuriating subreddit. There's also an image of a hair visible on widescreen monitors, to make you think there's a hair on your display.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by christophilus on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:21AM (#46255665)
I see the hair on my iPhone. That’s a nice touch.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by pmontra on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:35AM (#46255804)
The next step will be adding a web in a corner, to make us think we cracked our touchscreen /s
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by lagniappe on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:30PM (#46256230)
try eddrit.com
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by sseagull on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:37PM (#46256289)
I went there and saw two hairs, and yeah thought it was a nice funny touch.

I then went back to HN and turns out one of the hairs was real and I needed to clean my laptop screen :)

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by molticrystal on Saturday December 13, 2025 @01:02PM (#46256503)
They have a bag of dirty tricks [0], here are a few highlights including a couple already mentioned:

    /* Dead subpixel (Thanks M) */
    .content[role=main]:before {
        content: "";
        position: fixed;
        top: 126px;
        left: 242px;
        width: 1px;
        height: 1px;
        background: #f0f;
        z-index: 9999;
    }

    /* Hair */
    .content[role=main]:after {
        content: "";
        position: fixed;
        top: 150px;
        right: 150px;
        width: 140px;
        height: 200px;
        border-radius: 50%;
        box-shadow: 2px 0 rgb(60, 24, 24, 0.3);
        transform: skewX(-30deg) scale(0.6);
        pointer-events: none;
        z-index: 9999;
    }

    .thing.comment[id*=c] {
        transform: rotate(1deg);
        margin-top: 30px !important;
    }

    .comment p a{
        font-family:Comic Sans MS, Impact,serif;
    }
[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/wiki/config/style...
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by GaryBluto on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:15AM (#46255616)
r/mildlyinfuriating seems to have a custom stylesheet that is deliberately mildly infuriating.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by Tyr42 on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:18AM (#46255639)
I see it too. What the heck?
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by 3RTB297 on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:36AM (#46255824)
I only use old.reddit.com when I am forced to sulk back over there and actually log in. To just look around I just use some redlib frontend.

The numerous layers of attempted monetization schemes since 2016ish hilariously touted as "features" are sort of band-aided on top of each other on new reddit in a way that makes it the worst possible way to display the information. It's like a terrible UI challenge.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by caxco93 on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:36AM (#46255822)
actually, when you share a reddit link, HN automatically converts it to old.reddit
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by rcarmo on Saturday December 13, 2025 @02:04PM (#46256995)
And yet we cannot have dark mode, which would be a simple CSS tweak.

But I’m thankful for the other little things.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by esperent on Sunday December 14, 2025 @08:56PM (#46269490)
The various "dark mode" browser extensions work well here. Brave on Android also has a dark mode toggle built in, which I assume repackages one of the extensions.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by rcarmo on Monday December 15, 2025 @03:29AM (#46271780)
I keep having to explain that if you use a mobile app with an embedded browser none of those will work.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by esperent on Monday December 15, 2025 @08:52AM (#46274538)
You're reading HN from an app? Why?
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by rcarmo on Monday December 15, 2025 @01:31PM (#46278401)
Because reading the RSS feed is much more productive, and I use Reeder Classic on iOS, macOS and iPadOS
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by esperent on Monday December 15, 2025 @09:43PM (#46284134)
Maybe you should look for an RSS reader with dark mode then? I thought they all had that by now.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by rcarmo on Tuesday December 16, 2025 @09:44AM (#46289126)
Spoiler—not even the Android ones do that when they open a link inline.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by bdhcuidbebe on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:13AM (#46255597)
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by dmsayer on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:57AM (#46255968)
502 error
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by bromuro on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:22AM (#46255680)
I have poor eyesight and I don’t support this practice of linking old reddit on HN. Old website is unusable for me. I have to load the link in the native app to read it.

ctrl+F doesn’t work anyway as the comments are also buried in a “load more comments” on old reddit too. New website and app have a search comments field.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by Neywiny on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:29AM (#46255745)
While true some are hidden, old shows a *lot* more and most of my searches for obscure issues don't yield more viral posts
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by gcr on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:35AM (#46255801)
I have shitty eyesight and old is the only version that’s usable to me because text zooming works far better in the old layout. Are you using a screen reader by any chance?
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by bromuro on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:55PM (#46256437)
Screen reader is not available on Safari for old reddit. Also zooming the font is not working: I have to scroll a lot and the layout grt all broken.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by gcr on Saturday December 13, 2025 @01:21PM (#46256658)
Oh. TIL, sorry for pushing back
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by rationalist on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:33AM (#46255779)
> Old website is unusable for me.

New website is unusable for me.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by shayway on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:33AM (#46255792)
Assuming the issue with old reddit is font & element size, does zooming in with Ctrl+ not solve the problem?
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by Gualdrapo on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:31AM (#46255762)
I agree. I joined reddit when the "new" design was launched - I could never made sense of the old design. Way too cluttered and unreadable.
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by pier25 on Saturday December 13, 2025 @11:36AM (#46255821)
I wonder how you're using HN then
Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by joecool1029 on Saturday December 13, 2025 @12:45PM (#46256357)
> thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com

I noticed a day or two ago they quietly turned on the 'show new reddit as default' preference option, it was still possible to change default back but they won't stop pushing it.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by Klonoar on Saturday December 13, 2025 @02:48PM (#46257357)
This happens every few months.

You should just use a browser extension to do it since those don’t rely on an auth state anyway.

Re:LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which c... by rsynnott on Saturday December 13, 2025 @04:37PM (#46258340)
I don’t understand how anyone in Reddit thinks that new layout is better.

If old.reddit ever goes away I’ll probably stop using it entirely.