That definitely isn’t normal. My guess is you need to clean the contacts in the AirPods. They might be in the case but it’s still pairing or trying to pair. Shouldn’t drain that much, especially overnight.

Maybe the battery is failing?

If Person A loses 1% over a week in standby, and person B loses 20% overnight, it's probably not the battery..

Unless Person B also tells you that in general their air pods only last 30 minutes playing music.

As stated, their percentage of power level fall vs person A is 2000% more being generous (person A said a week, not a night). If it was because of the battery, the air pods would also last way way way less playing music.

You're right. Its definitely the Person.

Except when lithium batteries get old they start to lose double digit percentages in a couple hours. My experience anyway.

Yet when you actually use them, they retain basic the same energy capacity???

Could be either/or. I long ago lost the brassiere that came with my AirPods Max (not really lost, I just can’t be arsed to dig it out of where I think it is) and they’ll drain themselves fairly quickly just trying to throw out stray connections to any of the five or so devices they can connect to unless I make a point of disconnecting them. AirPods Pro exhibit the same exact symptoms when the contact inside the case needs to be cleaned.

I can’t work this out. Is this an autocorrect?

Nope.

https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2021/05...

A joke about a missing bra, a pair of AirPods, and a wiiiild pair of breasts

Please don’t turn this place into Reddit.

My airpods need a small piece of tissue in the top on one side or they don't charge. Could be a tolerance issue.

There’s a magnetic contact that the “bra” case engages that turns off the headphones so the battery doesn’t needlessly drain. Bunch of companies make after market cases/covers, you should get one of them at least.

I am aware of how it works, that's why I front-loaded the part about the brassiere being MIA at the moment. I just don't care, and I don't take it outside except on the airplane. Next flight I have, I'll probably dig out the brassiere.

Also in my experience, the brassiere was never perfect about guaranteeing the AirPods Max were put perfectly into a sleep state. The same exact issue could sometimes occur, maybe an alignment issue. The AirPods Max sound fantastic, but there's a lot of little details about them where Apple just kind of dropped the ball.

It's an iOS bug. It happens now and then for me, and when it happens it drains all the battery juice. Still no fix to this date.

could you link the bugreport or sth pls. apple has such weird bugs. on my iphone if i set an alarm and late at night i decide to tell siri to put another alarm she deletes the first one. did miss some flights because of that. and sometimes it doesnt ring at all. have a analog alarm for that now.

Apple doesn’t do public bug reports

Apple officially doesn’t, but the community does…

http://www.openradar.me/

Apple doesn’t really care about bugs. They’ll get fixed if and when they feel like it.

It'll get fixed if they think it'll result in a lost sale. As they are effectively a vendor monopoly, this probably won't happen.

what a bubble to live in

My Apple Watch regularly gets burning hot and drains the battery. Sometimes overnight, sometimes during the day. Very annoying. Reset several times, Apple Care was of no help, no fix to this date either. Only way to alleviate is to reboot the Watch.

This is since the existence of software and is going to stay with us until most people is ok to have 1/3rd of the features for the same kind of money. This will never happen, so bugs are here to stay.

The fact that software is buggy is not the customer's fault any more than food poisoning is the fault of people who eat too much.

If you restrict your diet & make sure to properly cook your food you can greatly reduce your frequency of food poisoning

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2804545

That wasn’t their point and I’m hesitating to believe you actually think it was.

This is like blaming people for not locking their door after they’ve been robbed. Yeah, they should have locked their door. But the person who actually did wrong is the person who robbed them.

Blaming somebody for not taking extra steps to reduce the chances of something happening to them that is ultimately the fault of another party is not right.

I don't agree with this at all. It is possible to both be in the wrong _and_ not be the villain. If I am dressed to the 9s, wearing expensive jewelry, carrying a lot of money.... and then I want down dark alleys.... and I get mugged; I am not the bad guy, the mugger is. But I'm also partially to blame, because I knowingly took actions that increased the likelihood of me being mugged.

Our society has elements that will harm us. It is up to us to take action to reduce the likelihood of that happening.

Pointing out that there are ways to reduce risk of something bad happening does not excuse the fault of a perpetrator. Neither is it victim blaming. This is particularly true when having a bad thing happen to you could occur without any individual acting intentionally, such as is the case with food poisoning.

It’s not the individuals fault on their own, but the market absolutely reflects societies tolerance of bugs and crashes. Microsoft started boiling that frog decades ago.

It's defective. They need to fix it or replace it.

I get this if I use a usb c extension

> "It's an iOS bug"

How did you determine it's an iOS bug?

I love the airpods but ah... they dont play well with any kind of metal work. If you do metal work with a file the shavings get everywhere and once they stick to the magnet its almost impossible to get them out. I guess this is a very unusual edge case though but thought id post it. lmao.

Do you reckon a high psi stream of compressed air would remove the shavings? ie from an air compressor or similar

Probably would need to be careful not to damage the microphones.

Might I recommend something like IsoTunes? Far better product to use in a work environment where you might need to hear something going wrong.

Iron age problems. Wasn’t a problem in the good ‘ol bronze age.

I use tape, or bluetack. Bluetack is easiest for the external connectors, but a wodge of tape, properly manipulated, can get the internal ones. Can be a bit of a pain, but it's never not worked.

That is a lot, but I wonder if GP’s only decreased by 1% because their phone wasn’t close by. AirPods and their iPhones probably keep pinging each other to maintain the Bluetooth connection, which must have an effect on the battery.

Only when you pull them out of the case. Otherwise they just stay asleep. When I replaced my Powerbeats Pro (same fundamental tech as any AirPods) with AirPods Pro, I went about a year or so without touching the Powerbeats Pro and they just sat in one spot not too far from anything they could connect to since I never unpaired them from anything. I pulled them out a year later, and the Beats themselves were still fully charged and I think the case was still about 70%. Couldn’t tell you what I had left the case at though.

Something is wrong with them. I can use mine repeatedly over several days before finally needing to plug them in again. You should reach out to support.

I've googled it and tried all the recommended fixes.

This is a frequent problem - only for some people.

The left earbud dying is a frequent problem. Sometimes I sometimes hear about the right, but usually the left. Even more rarely, both die frequently, which isn’t the real issue…they drain the case, right? (if not ignore the rest of this)

Want me to blow your mind? The REASON for this is the case. Everyone always suggests cleaning, but that won’t help for the long term. I know because I have tried.

I took a pair of tweezers and bent the metal contacts in the case outward. That was a year ago. I have not had a single issue since. Not one. I am willing to bet Apple brushed a manufacturing defect under the rug. YMMV and if your airpods are under warranty, consider that first, but after having the issue with first gen and second gen, I wasn’t about to deal with nonsense.

> I am willing to bet Apple brushed a manufacturing defect under the rug.

What? that doesn't sound like Apple at all. They would never do that. I get butterflies just thinking that.

> butterflies

I see what you did there.

The butterfly keyboard was a _design_ defect, and these are very different things. Apple went to great lengths (because telling Jony Ive 'no' was not an option) to try and tweak the design to function correctly in the real world, and failed.

But they came out of the box functioning perfectly, and stayed that way until tiny specks of dust inevitably entered the picture. The entire saga was extremely boneheaded and after I took mine in for a replacement (which, I must say, was out of warranty and only cost me time) I vowed to never buy another MacBook which had that absurd keyboard. Fortunately I didn't have to, they went back to the proven design which is a true beast and just keeps chugging along for years without a single missed or repeated keystroke.

But this is very different from shipping products with known _manufacturing_ defects, and then 'brushing it under the rug', presumably by not issuing a recall. I can't recall even the former happening with post-iPod era Apple products, let alone the latter.

In this particular case, the most likely culprit is pushing the AirPod into the charging slot with enough force to bend down the contact. There isn't a way to manufacture a spring contact which isn't vulnerable to this, and the fix is easy if you have thin enough tweezers. If Apple shipped an edition of AirPods cases with bad contacts, which didn't charge out of the box, it's a safe bet that there would be press about it. Maybe there was, but if so, I missed the 635 comment HN thread about it.

Going to give this a try tomorrow… fingers crossed.

Please remember to come back and update us after a couple of weeks!

Have you actually talked to Apple? They might just replace them. Is this the only pair that’s demonstrated this behavior, or has it been multiple units?

Mine last not even 10 minutes after one year of use. Apple did nothing. So no more AirPods ever for me anymore

Yours are broken somehow. That's insane.

Try leaving them on the bedpost, c.f. Donegan, L (1959)

I find it funny that you consider a drastic difference like that a matter of luck. Clearly something isn’t right with your pods.

Not normal. Case takes months to deplete without usage for me.

That is very strange and defective.

Mine sometimes don't charge in the case, and can either end up with the case fully charged and the airpods fully drained, or if they charge/discharge through the night with the airpods at a random charge and the case somewhat drained.

I seem to be the only person this happens to, but the won't-charge-in-the-case problem was so bad with my original airpods pro that Apple ended up replacing the case, then the airpods pro and the case, over a very frustrating several months of back and forth. My new airpods pro were fine for maybe eight months, but the problem has started again. So far it's only once every few weeks, which I can live with.

If you don’t know, make sure the light blinks when you drop each AirPod in. That will show it hit the contacts correctly. My APP 1s also had this issue way more often than my second gens.

Thanks! In my case (pun intended) the AirPods will sometimes just refuse to charge. I have spent several hours holding the case open and wedging one AirPod up… slightly… to get it to charge, and another several hours trying to replicate that delicate configuration with small shims of various design.

Just chiming in to say I had the same problem and found a solution.

For some reason, my AirPods silently connect to my iPhone while they're in their case and both devices are asleep. Why they do this, I have no clue. Just quality 2020s Apple programming.

Anyways, there's an easy solution: go into the settings app (not the drop down menu) and turn off Bluetooth on your phone/ipad when you don't need it. Your AirPods will no longer randomly drain at night. Neither will your Apple Pencil, if you have one of those.

You'll find a lot of comments on Apple support forums/reddit/etc saying it's impossible for it to be Bluetooth and that you should never turn it off for any reason because it's crazy. People for some reason are very assertive about that. But they're wrong. I now make a habit of only turning Bluetooth on precisely when I need it and immediately turn it off afterwards and now nothing gets drained needlessly.

Now the only AirPods bug that drives me insane is the volume randomly shooting up halfway to max randomly sometimes when I connect to my computer, but I made a script to somewhat fix it.

Can’t you just turn off Bluetooth easily via Control Center? Top left Bluetooth symbol

That doesn't turn Bluetooth off. It's deceptive. It simply "disconnects" it, but it'll still connect at a random point in the future. It also doesn't really disconnect it since it'll still detect devices and burn away your battery life. And I experimented with it countless times over a couple years.

That's why I said you need to do it through settings directly. Otherwise it won't do anything.

Yes it does. Once you tap that button Bluetooth will remain off.

Yes, but only until the next day.

It absolutely does not. I've tried it countless times and my AirPods still drain overnight if I use the drop down disable. I've also disabled it that way and seen an "AirPods detected" message minutes later.

Apple themselves even says if you want to turn off Bluetooth, you need to do it through settings: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102412

This is accurate.

It is not. Apple themselves say you need to go to settings to turn it off: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102412

Otherwise it's merely a temporary disconnect.

Same here, occasionally I find both the case and the ear pieces with empty batteries while they haven’t been nowhere near empty when I left them, usually previous day or evening.