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Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by neves on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:10PM (#32232662)
Is princess Mononoke the best movie from Studio Ghibli? It's the best anime I've ever whatched .
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by deepdriver on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:20PM (#32232736)
Howl's Moving Castle is my personal favorite. Also one of the rare cases where the English dub is on par with the original voice-acting. English cast includes Christian Bale, Jean Simmons and Billy Crystal.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by echelon on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:56PM (#32233003)
Howl's Moving Castle really falls apart at the end, and it's a shame.

Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind and Castle in the Sky are the most similar in feeling to Princess Mononoke. High fantasy, adventure, against all odds. (This is my favorite batch of Ghibli / Miyazaki / Takahata films.)

Spirited Away is an otherworldly coming of age treasure that cannot be missed. Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service feel similar. Whisper of the Heart is this too, just aimed a little older. (And if you like that, check out Your Name by Shinkai or Wolf Children by Hosoda - not Ghibli films, but very deserving of a watch if you like this sort of film.)

Grave of the Fireflies is a very poignant anti-war film.

FWIW, I bought the old Miramax domain name for Princess Mononoke and kept the website online [1]. It's one of my favorite films. I wish Miyazaki made more films like Mononoke and Nausicaa - they're sublime.

[1] http://princess-mononoke.com

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by Fatnino on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:48PM (#32233326)
The castle literally falls apart at the end :)

On a more serious note, the book is quite good too. The book doesn't describe the castle as a giant steampunk thing walking around in the hills. It's actually just a plain 4 sided stone building that hovers around a little over the ground, no legs. So in this regard the movie is better IMHO. But in the book there is another location the door opens to and the stuff we see in there changes the whole story. In the movie we spend some time trying to figure out what version of the characters, Howl especially, are the real version. The book turns this up further with the additional location.

At the end the take away is quite different between book and movie. Both good in their own ways.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by archagon on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:17PM (#32233131)
In my humble opinion, Spirited Away also kind of falls apart at the end. I never really got a sense of resolution from that movie. Not so for Mononoke.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by Trasmatta on Monday July 25, 2022 @10:11PM (#32233450)
> Howl's Moving Castle really falls apart at the end, and it's a shame.

I love the ending

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by Rels on Monday July 25, 2022 @11:12PM (#32233831)
Why?
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by q-big on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:39PM (#32232885)
> Is princess Mononoke the best movie from Studio Ghibli?

As far as I am aware, most anime nerds say that Grave of the Fireflies is the best movie from Studio Ghibli (for this movie, Hayao Miyazaki was only producer and not director). But be aware that Grave of the Fireflies is a rather sad movie.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by thanatos519 on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:47PM (#32232936)
You have a gift for understatement. I was weeping for hours afterwards.

It was made together with My Neighbour Totoro as a double feature. Only Totoro could rescue me!

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by grogenaut on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @12:11AM (#32234153)
I had my spouse, who crys often at movies, watch it with me. I gave them fair waning that it was very sad and apparently very good. She agreed, and was also "I'm never watching that again". She enjoyed it. Can confirm, brutal and great. But like other amazing sad war movies like Schindler's List, I'm not going to watch it for fun.

Actually that's a good way to think of it, compress SL into a anime length movie and you have the emotional hit of Grave.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by neves on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @10:49AM (#32239089)
Totoro is one of best "feel good movies" I've ever watched?
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by _carbyau_ on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @12:02AM (#32234110)
Devastatingly sad movie.

But not for a second regrettable.

As sibling comment notes, have My Neighbor Totoro ready to go afterwards to put you back together.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by hajile on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @08:25PM (#32245655)
I'm not sure if you are being intentional here, but those two movies were presented as a double feature when they were first released in theater.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by _carbyau_ on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @08:37PM (#32245711)
Both. I am aware of the double feature release AND I think it is a good idea. :-)
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by woodruffw on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:34PM (#32232841)
I will be the outlier and submit Porco Rosso for contention.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by thiht on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @07:37AM (#32236928)
The ending is so botched though, I’ve never been so underwhelmed in my whole life.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by dreadlordbone on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:49PM (#32233337)
This is also my contrarian take.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by steve_gh on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @01:11AM (#32234491)
Me too! Wonderful film
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by threatofrain on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:13PM (#32232684)
I would also recommend The Princess Kaguya and Only Yesterday as contenders for that title.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by code_biologist on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:16PM (#32232708)
I was going to say Spirited Away with an honorable mention to Howl's Moving Castle as a crowd pleaser — but I haven't see either you mentioned. Thanks for the rec!
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:27PM (#32232789)
My Neighbours the Yamadas and Pom Poko are also worth a watch.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by Tostino on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:07PM (#32233068)
I loved Pom Poko, was such an interesting take on so many things.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:19PM (#32232730)
Grave of the Fireflies
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by hinkley on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:54PM (#32232985)
Grave of the Fireflies needs a warning label.

It's Schindler's List in a few important ways. 1) it's about WWII, 2) It's a gut punch, and 3) It's one of the greatest movies you only need to see once, and likely will only want to watch once.

I've told the kids they can only watch that movie once they're old enough to drink.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:02PM (#32233036)
Well, if you want Ghibli's best movie ... Grave of the Fireflies to my mind is easily one of the best movies ever made, let alone Ghili's best. I've seen it at least 3 times because I'm a glutton for punishment that way.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by jker on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:00PM (#32233031)
I've heard this so much about _Grave of the Fireflies_ that I'm afraid to watch it - what if it doesn't affect me the way it does everyone else? Would that mean there's something wrong with me? Is it some kind of cinematic Voight-Kampff?
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by lmm on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:12PM (#32233095)
> what if it doesn't affect me the way it does everyone else? Would that mean there's something wrong with me?

If there was, wouldn't you want to know?

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by hinkley on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:14PM (#32233107)
The sad parts involve kids. If that doesn't phase you the CIA has some wonderful career opportunities they'd love to talk to you about.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by nibbleshifter on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:26PM (#32233199)
There's some quality offerings for such people on https://gchq.careers/ as well, for the non US folks.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by grogenaut on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @12:14AM (#32234171)
Did you get an emotional reaction in the first 3-5 minutes of Pixar's UP? Congrats you have emotions.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by nibbleshifter on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:24PM (#32233180)
> I've told the kids they can only watch that movie once they're old enough to drink.

So, 6 months old? (When I grew up, whiskey was a common cure for toothache, gripe, or any other bother infants had...)

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by postalrat on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:36PM (#32232869)
The Tale of Princess Kaguya is up there. It and Princess Mononoke are probably my two favorites.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by zmgsabst on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:27PM (#32232787)
I prefer some of the others:

Spirited Away, Ponyo, Howl’s Moving Castle, and Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind.

I don’t know that I view movies as “best”, since those are all quite different stories.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by King-Aaron on Monday July 25, 2022 @10:33PM (#32233600)
Nausicaa is an amazing movie, certainly one of my favourites.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by autarch on Monday July 25, 2022 @09:11PM (#32233088)
I've seen every Ghibli film except the Earthsea film, and I'd say the best are Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Princess Kaguya, and Totoro.

That said, I've liked pretty much every film they've made except Kiki's Delivery Service (I found it a bit dull) and Howl's Moving Castle (it just didn't work for me). They're pretty much all worth watching at least once.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by jonhohle on Monday July 25, 2022 @11:24PM (#32233896)
The original Fox English dub of Kiki’s Delivery Service is wonderful - especially Phil Hartman as Gigi. I normally wouldn’t recommend a dub, but I have always enjoyed this one. My understanding is that Disney redid at least some of it when they acquired distribution rights and I’m not sure if that’s still the English version, but there are definitely DVDs available with it.

Porco Rosso seems to get ignored frequently. It’s fantastic as well.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by bdowling on Monday July 25, 2022 @11:55PM (#32234076)
That English dub has two serious flaws. First, they took out the two fun 70's J-POP songs, which really set the tone of the film, and replaced them with forgettable American songs written for the movie. Second, they inserted background music into parts of the film that aren't supposed to have music (e.g., when the mood is set by the sounds of the town, or suspense is heightened by only having the sound of the wind).

Edit: Also, Jiji (Kiki's cat) played by Phil Hartman has a completely different character from Jiji in the Japanese version.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by 2muchcoffeeman on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @02:59AM (#32235227)
Watch the original japanese with subs!
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by calyth2018 on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @10:06AM (#32238437)
It's hard to define best, as someone who watched a lot of it as a kid.

For a pre-teen audience, Nausicaä of the valley of the wind, Castle in the Sky, Totoro, basically all the stuff before Princess Mononoke are great films.

I see Princess Mononoke to be a film for people coming of age, where it's time to realize the binary view of the world is overly simplistic.

Just don't bother with the dubs. Hollywood just couldn't get the right voice actors to act with the right voice to fit the setting and the theme. For example, the main characters dub for Castle in the Sky felt older than the original (or Cantonese dub, which was my first introduction). Pazu was supposed to be an orphan, a child worker in a frigging mine. While the film doesn't directly call attention to that much, it hints at it by having the original voice to be too young to even crack yet.

Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by FpUser on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:54PM (#32232987)
For me it is impossible to name "the best". To my taste most of the Ghibli content is just outstanding.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by Andrex on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:16PM (#32232707)
I've watched a lot of Ghibli and it's still my favorite, but Spirited Away is an extremely close second.
Re:Princess Mononoke: The masterpiece that flummoxed the US by mcphage on Monday July 25, 2022 @08:35PM (#32232854)
It’s my favorite, but Studio Ghibli has so many wonderful movies that picking a “best” seems a waste.