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Re:I fucking hate Jira by lordleft on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:02PM (#31814250)
What are some alternatives to JIRA? Also, how much of the hate directed towards JIRA buried resentment towards Agile and other project management paradigms?
Re:I fucking hate Jira by ibiza on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:54PM (#31814957)
I had no issues using YouTrack from JetBrains. It's fairly lightweight w/ a focus on ticketing (MarkDown + images), good search, and Kanban views, if that's your thing.

https://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/

Re:I fucking hate Jira by trhway on Monday June 20, 2022 @04:31PM (#31815507)
> Also, how much of the hate directed towards JIRA buried resentment towards Agile

it is kind ironic, yet pretty typical and very telling, that the slow as hell Jira is tightly associated with Agile

Re:I fucking hate Jira by bobbygoodlatte on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:12PM (#31814382)
Linear https://linear.app/

It's a joy to use

Re:I fucking hate Jira by bsuvc on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:06PM (#31814296)
I like shortcut and use it whenever I have a say in the matter.

https://shortcut.com/

Re:I fucking hate Jira by casion on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:12PM (#31814380)
Slightly more than a +1, the team I work on switched to Shortcut and the quality of our tickets went up, more tickets were resolved, and fewer ended up lingering in backlog hell. Why? I'm sure there are many possible reasons, but the results stand on their own.

There was no directive other than "Ok, we're going to use this tool for now". Everything was self-organized within the bounds of the business/stakeholder goals.

I'm sure you can use either Jira or Shortcut in a manner which makes either tedious, but at face value we found significant improvements simply through adopting Shortcut.

Re:I fucking hate Jira by mattpallissard on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:22PM (#31814522)
Shortcut is pretty stripped down and lacks several features conducive to cross team collaboration. In particular I dislike shortcut's lack of internal comments. It's a much bigger annoyance than anticipated.

I dislike atlassian products in general, but having some discipline with the config/workflows was much better than shortcut.

Re:I fucking hate Jira by jtcruthers on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:30PM (#31816269)
> lack of internal comments

What do you mean by this? There's a section to comment in each card/epic/milestone and you can ping team members. Comments also sync with slack so you can get notifications there if you'd like. I don't have a ton of JIRA knowledge, so there's a chance I'm missing something.

Re:I fucking hate Jira by mattpallissard on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:09PM (#31827151)
In Jira you have the concept of internal comments, which aren't visible to people outside the team.

They are useful for putting triage and debugging information in. Or even as a play by play with specifics so your team mates or manager can follow along with your progress.

Re:I fucking hate Jira by t3e on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:21PM (#31814500)
Shameless plug for Constructor[1], we're early (new website on the way) but have a bunch of happy customers, many of whom came from Jira, the rest mostly from Trello (to which we're most often and justifiably compared, we keep it simple!)

1. https://constructor.dev

Re:I fucking hate Jira by alluro2 on Monday June 20, 2022 @04:30PM (#31815493)
We switched to Quire (https://quire.io) - it has a generous free plan, it's simple yet very flexible, and, most importantly for us, quick enough to not be a chore to update (Jira was horrible). Some small UI bugs here and there, but inconsequential.
Re:I fucking hate Jira by CookiesOnMyDesk on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:15PM (#31814425)
Backlog by Nulab is pretty much all the good features of Jira distilled down into a simple product. I've used it and been very happy with it. https://nulab.com/products/backlog/
Re:I fucking hate Jira by jamal-kumar on Monday June 20, 2022 @04:00PM (#31815043)
If self hosted is your thing I like taiga for kanban integrated with gogs for the issue tracking/VCS integration side of things. Didn't take me more than a day to get working and everyone signed up on it, isn't a lot of maintenance, just works, costs nothing.
Re:I fucking hate Jira by ianbutler on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:05PM (#31814286)
PivotalTracker, GitLab has pretty great project tracking and ticket management if you’re on them. These are the two I can think of off the top of my head. Personally I really like Pivotal.
Re:I fucking hate Jira by halostatue on Monday June 20, 2022 @04:28PM (#31815457)
Pivotal Tracker is only good if you buy into the way that it works and are willing to lose all knowledge that your tickets represent.

Pivotal is really only good at a particular type of project tracking (mostly building greenfield features and projects), and absolutely godawful at issue tracking.

I’ll use JIRA over Pivotal any day.

Re:I fucking hate Jira by ianbutler on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @11:59AM (#31825456)
Pivotal was just a normal board based tracker when I used it. Better than Trello and less complex than Jira which is all I really want, I’ve never been in an organization that has any more context attached to a ticket than what the work is and who’s working on it.

I think I can count on my hand the number of times anyone has actually had a conversation on a Jira ticket for me.

It also helps that right now I don’t have tickets for my work, I’ve been lucky enough to work on exploratory/skunkworks work for my team at my current org.

Re:I fucking hate Jira by creativityland on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @12:32AM (#31819907)
For more lightweight task and project management with an notes editor and outliner feel, try Taskade [0]

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[0] - https://taskade.com/

Re:I fucking hate Jira by SigKill9 on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:50PM (#31814883)
For something less task-focused and more customer-oriented, we built https://www.kitemaker.co :)
Re:I fucking hate Jira by chillingeffect on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:17PM (#31814453)
>Agile >resentment

Yup.. at least fake agile... where every "sprint" is the same length and features aren't customer-oriented.

Re:I fucking hate Jira by typeofhuman on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:26PM (#31814576)
Re:I fucking hate Jira by nightwatchinc on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:08PM (#31814326)
Linear.app
Re:I fucking hate Jira by Ancalagon on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:43PM (#31814796)
Highly recommend ClickUp
Re:I fucking hate Jira by RedShift1 on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:08PM (#31814331)
Depending on what you use it for, Gitlab springs to mind
Re:I fucking hate Jira by y0ssar1an on Monday June 20, 2022 @03:11PM (#31814368)