If that held me back from getting a job at some puritanical company, so be it. I wouldn't have wanted to work there any way.
All it takes is one person in the critical path to not like what you're doing, even if 99% of the rest don't give a shit, and that's a potential job off the table.
You're proud of your work, that's great, but also doesn't change the fact that your work also puts you at risk of having your resume tossed for a dumb reason.
Agreed, your resume could be tossed for anything. US has some protections for this. Other countries don't have this at all. You don't take a job with a porn company without realizing that. It definitely made hiring more difficult as well.
While working there, we lost access to our web analytics tool because they got bought by a Mormon company that booted us. Endless issues with credit card processors. We also had to host our own server hardware because at the time, porn wasn't allowed on many hosting services and/or we were fearful of being booted from other cloud providers.
That's also what attracted me to my current business venture, which is to provide decentralized cloud infrastructure services (aka: web3). It seems weird to think of that being decentralized, but if we don't know the specifics of what you're running on our hardware, there is nothing for us to turn off. Based on my history, I see a lot of value in that.
And there are so many tech on these system I wish I could read more about it. And yet we dont. There could be loads of things that could be open sourced too. Or do we live in a world where an open source component from a porn company are not good enough to use. ( I would not be surprised if that is case right now in Silicon Valley ). And yet we are happy to read technology being used in warfares?
I would imagine you have lots of restrictions and barrier in your work, from hosting to payment or whatever. It will be interesting to see how those are worked out.
Oh but please post it in a separate blogging platform so we can all enjoy it during work hours.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-work-on-the-develop...
(I hired @latchkey, though he stayed a few years longer than I did)
Beta vs VHS.
DVD did not compete against BluRay, they are two different generations. BluRay competed against HD-DVD. From what I remember technically HD-DVD was superior, BluRay won because it had extra copy protection mechanism the HD-DVD lacked.
The major factor was that Sony shipped a BluRay player in the PlayStation 3. When HD-DVD was discontinued, Sony had sold 10.5M PlayStation 3 units while there were only 1M HD-DVD units. Sony spent a lot of money subsidizing the PS3 and its BluRay player, but a 10:1 ratio of PS3s to HD-DVD players won the market (and all the standalone BluRay players just made the ratio worse).
As the PS3 sold, rental chains like Blockbuster decided to go with BluRay exclusively - and at the time Blockbuster was the largest rental chain and really powerful. Netflix also moved exclusively to BluRay. As the PS3 sold, Target decided to move exclusively to BluRay. Once the PS3 had started selling way more units than all HD-DVD players combined, everyone started moving away from HD-DVD which just reinforced its decline.
BluRay won because Sony was willing to suffer pretty big losses on PS3 sales to push the format.
Perhaps you should evaluate whether your post adds to the conversation, or is intended to be a character attack on the GP.
I certainly could have gone to work for Facebook or some other FAANG, but given the choice of selling my soul for porn or selling my soul to Mark and FB... I'd pick porn any day. It was a great job. Full benefits, matching 401k, like minded coworkers, interesting and challenging use cases, best after work parties, etc.
I wonder where twiclo works...
Pro tip: Your resume is your greatest hits album, not an encyclopedia entry on you.
Seems like a way to shock the people actually putting real effort into vetting a candidates resume/credentials.
Maybe a warning that it’s nsfw would cause less extreme reactions.
We must calibrate our messaging to have the intended effect. If what you’re putting out isn’t being received as intended, modulate the signal.
If I had worked in NSFW and an application would get rejected because of that I would sincerely thank my former job for saving me a job in an environment I would not want to touch with a ten foot pole.
If people in (even small power) like HR drones abuse their position as to flag a resume because of such a former experience I doubt there is a company culture of honesty, openness, respect or value of the individual.
To me personally a great filter to have.
If one is desperately in need of a job. OK - remove it and try to jump ship once secured in the current place.
I call this the traffic warden principle: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. A really tiny amount of power, in one specific area of your life, corrupts even more.
(Also, FWIW, it's "people in (even small) power", not "people in (even small power)".)
Want to get into FAANG? Corporate HR is dominated by women, better clean up your act.
Wanna get hired by the hot bro-startup to be single-digit-employee? No purge necessary - if anything, those blue entries will score more points.
I might unfairly be making assumptions about how technically feasible the change would be. If it would be difficult to do so, I'd be interested to learn how/why, eg was it a system design choice or is it inherent to the tech itself...
I'm slightly conflicted here. I don't like pretending that facets of life don't exist, especially when they don't directly harm the involved, but I am also mindful of people's individual sensitivities.
To tie it back to something more general, it seems like a lot of software engineering work is predicated on the cis male perspective. It's hard for me to imagine the psychological impact that sexual harassment might have on a woman, partly because I have the privilege of moving through the world without having my body or attractiveness be a point of interest whatsoever. I feel safe walking outside at night. I don't check my car's backseat before getting in. I have no idea what the fear of kidnapping even is.
In light of the above, of being honest with the gaps in what I will ever experience, how can I venture to link to a site that might offend a woman? Even if it seems ok to me, and it's a joke or whatever excuse, how can I possibly say I fully understand her perspective when her lived experience places her in such vastly different situations?
There's nuance in there of course, pick your situations, but basically none of them are going to be broadly unique or predictable, and part of life is just dealing with those awkward moments if they come up.
I am not offended by OPs app, nor the display of a woman's breasts or genitalia. But I would greatly question what kind of employee OP would be if they're putting their jerk-off apps on their resume. If OP lacks the basic social awareness to not cause steam to come out the ears of the large percent of society that might be deemed neopuritan, then I have to suspect OP is lacking in social awareness that is going to affect their/coworkers performance in the office.
If I had written an app like that, and wanted to use it as a demo of my knowledge in some field on my resume, I would reimplement it to work on puppies or something.
Porn and advertising is the driving force of the Internet.
Was the initial force...but since we call it "internet" and "personal computers" instead of "mainframe" and "arpanet" not anymore.
Of the actual innovations in this field, how many came from defense (DOD, CIA, NSA, ARPA, & their contractors), and how many came from pornography?
Xerox
>GUI
Xerox
>laser printers
Xerox
>cryptography
Maybe the Babylonian empire?
Look i stop here..super-computing , TOR, LISP or Ada is not a driving force, they are a product...you could have said WWW made at cern...but hey
http://worrydream.com/EarlyHistoryOfSmalltalk/
As for actual innovations, porn still scores bupkis.
The article specifically talks about people's lives being ruined by sites like this.
Plenty of feminists are anti-porn, and are not right wing nor "puritan" in the least.
We put up sets of idealistic moral standards that some or most of a society generally agree protects vulnerable people. This is why we have age limits on alcohol, for example. This is why we have age limits on porn, too.
Everyone is forced to comply or pretend to comply with minimum drinking ages, which are pretty common throughout the world. I think all would agree.
It doesn't really seem to be puritanism that drives a society to protect its vulnerable populations. It's not out of a hatred of alcohol that drinking ages exist, it's because alcohol abuse has been proven to ruin lives. Just like porn.
So if you're left-wing, than in your terminology puritans will be by definition right-wingers. And the people enforcing morals you agree with cannot be called Puritan.
If you take a brief look at the history of the original Puritanism however, it was definitely a 'revolutionary' movement against tradition. Including the ones who came to America.
That "everyone" must be old. The new phenomena are already lampooned in plenty of memes. The boomers aged pretty badly.
> It's not out of a hatred of alcohol that drinking ages exist, it's because alcohol abuse has been proven to ruin lives
If that were the case, alcohol would just be banned outright. The limits are basically virtual anyway, anybody can attest that getting alcohol is trivial once you start to really want it. Just like porn.
A lot of law is effectively performative morality, and no more so than in the area of personal pleasures. Prohibitionism always fails, eventually, because people want to feel.
The fact that the right wing is puritan doesn't mean that puritanism entails being right-wing. This is, like, Logic 101, 'Socrates is a man'-level shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Dissenters#/media/File...
I'm a Quaker. Early Quakers were radical (rejecting the religious authority of priests and the fighting of wars), conservative (looking backwards to a partially-imagined better, more wholesome Christianity of the past), obnoxious (turning up to Anglican churches to heckle the sermon), and disciplined (strong structures in place for the support of families of those imprisoned for their faith, and a communal discernment process that rejected 'do as thou wilt').
Puritans rejected catholic influence on the church, yes, but their focus on individual piety, and their association with the rising merchant class, puts them a long way from freaky liberalism. One of their critiques was that others were insufficiently sober and God-fearing!
In either century, the right represents old moral values, and the left represents a fresh new source of moral values which seek to replace the old. Granted, in the 17th century those new moral sources were religious and in the 21st century they are secular - the substance of what is now left and what was then left has absolutely changed. But the overall structure is the same.
That's kind of the whole point of the original article, narrated by a guy who _ actually feels guilty_ about his role in enabling people like your hypothetical frat boy.
Demo video literally depicts naked chicks. Sure, it's soft porn, but it's fully pornographic lol
"It appears on my resume" makes it sound like some other controlling entity has put it on your resume, so that it now just appears there as a matter of fact.
What an odd statement to make.
This is quite different than merely listing an employer such as pornhub on your resume.
I tend to get suspicious when porn sites (or porn-related sites) avoid https. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it's so simple to use ssl today than I find it hard to give the benefit of the doubt.
Is there any reason to your choice in publishing content such as this in a way that exposes all visitors?
This falls into the same category as "be careful having opinions in public". Ever since we've been easily Googlable, right-wing employers have canceled left-wing candidates and very much vice-versa (e.g. Antonio Garcia Martinez and Apple). There's been some degree of outcry and stink about this, but in the end it's probably a net good for employees to work with teams they are culturally aligned with. Getting cut early on account of what you believe or what else you worked on is probably best for everyone involved.
Would you like to be able to enjoy a beer with your coworkers or not?
Not a job requirement for adults.
Open-minded professionalism and civility should trump only working with frat buddies.
Not sure how that's relevant here.
You write about the unjust bias (and unjust it is) against you for having worked with porn, but then seem to to try to evoke ageist and gender stereotypes.
Multiple studies exist showing that men and women have very very different views on pornography and in particular women's views on it are significantly more negative than men's views. Furthermore people's views on pornography change as they get older with older people having an even more negative view about it than younger people. This isn't like a fringe difference either, consumption of porn by women is less than 20% that of men. There's nothing sexist about pointing out that women can and often do have very different views on a subject than men, and no reason to think that women having a negative view of pornography somehow makes them inferior in anyway.
Can you cite some of these studies?
IIRC there is a difference in consumption rates between genders, but not negative attitudes.
The upside is you don't get matched with prude co-workers.
Small anecdote, but I was recruited by and almost took an offer for the folks behind "BangBros." Their corporate structure was apparently such that the IT / Software roles worked for a shell company with a generic name, generic website, etc. This company apparently works in a "consulting" like capacity for all of their assets (BangBros, "tube" sites, cam sites, etc.)
I asked what was going on with the shell company, because it seemed sketchy as all hell. It was explained that because of industry stigma most of their employees use the shell company for their resume with generic "worked on highly-scalable systems handling N amount of traffic."
Apparently it was a highly professional outfit, and the closest you could get to dealing with FANG-level problems while not being a FANG-eligible person. Great pay and benefits, business casual dress located in a nice building in Miami Beach.
Years later after I went on to another job, we told them "the truth" and they just shrugged it off.
for a tech company, and a porn company? that's completely absurd.
1: https://youthfirstinc.org/pornography-viewing-starts-as-earl...
2: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1753-6405.1...
3: https://www.magonlinelibrary.com/doi/abs/10.12968/bjsn.2017....
> 3: https://www.magonlinelibrary.com/doi/abs/10.12968/bjsn.2017....
I found this fairly dubious, and followed through with this and got to the study[0]. It uses [1] as its source. That source is a private antivirus company (bitdefender), and they don't quote any sources for those claims, but luckily they offer a solution:
> Use security solutions with Parental Control to watch over kids online. Features such as Bitdefender Parental Control block inappropriate content, restrict Web access between certain hours and helps parents remotely monitor their children”s online activity
I haven't followed through on the other statistics you quoted, but that seems like some major corporate BS you're basing your argument on there.
> The research was conducted by Bitdefender in September 2016 covering 706 users of Bitdefender's security solutions.
Oh okay, that about settles it.
[0] https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.12968/bjsn.2017.12.7.3...
[1] https://www.bitdefender.com/blog/hotforsecurity/one-in-10-vi...
Where are these ads? I never see pornographic ads in my daily browsing.
> The dopamine response to seeing porn is similar to crack (4).
That doesn't prove anything about harmfulness. I think it was already obvious that humans are hardwired to be attracted to sex. Nothing in these links suggests that this response creates to an addiction similar to hard drugs.
> Pornography is categorically more dangerous to society than ads, tracking, and privacy invasions.
I don't accept that based on your sources.
Porn isn't sex. The repeated exposure to a huge volume of media can't be compared to a physical experience. It's more comparable to a drug.
The ultimate list of the effects of porn on the brain: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articl...
The site is founded by an atheist, and looks to science for making an informed view: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/about/about-this-site/
Porn mags where everywhere from corner stores, barber shops and some doctor offices. If you never saw porn by 8 you might be considered legally blind.
As another comment mentioned a similar problem with "advertising" in general, I think sexualization and over stimulus of the population weakens people, and not to say there is some conspiracy purposefully pushing this (it may just emergent from technology and human instinct) I do think the corrupting influence weakens a population and makes them more easily dominated by strong forces... media, business, government, etc. All to say that, in terms of "what is best to cultivate a strong society and people" porn is extremely antithetical to this. A stronger society is one that would be avoiding, however necessary, consumption and production of pornography.
This presentation [0] on the physiological effects of porn consumption is very informative. Observations mirror what strong opiates do to the brain
A good overview of the public health problem of porn[1]
The psychologically destabilizing and weakening effects of porn, and how they breakdown willpower to oppose stronger forces are illustrated by the time when the Israeli military broadcast pornography onto the televisions of Palestinian residents of the besieged West Bank town of Ramallah [2]. Why would they do this if porn was good for you?
[0] "The great porn experiment | Gary Wilson | TEDxGlasgow" https://youtu.be/wSF82AwSDiU
[1] https://eppc.org/publication/a-science-based-case-for-ending...
[2] https://reason.com/2002/04/03/porn-and-politics-in-palestine...
Let me explain. About three decades ago I was (gladly not to strongly) part of a Christian youth group. Led by honorable members of the parish. They condemned porn, Sex, condemned schools doing sex ed. The condemned viciously youth magazines doing sex ed as well (German Bravo magazine).
Kids naturally discovered their budding sexuality. Looked at porn or nudism magazines. Tried maturation (oh what a sin in the eyes of the elders). As said everything sexusl, everything bodily was tabu.
Kids, especially in the inner part of these groups with parents active in the parish were fearful. Full of shame because they felt their bodies betraying them and their faith. Felt the touch of Satan. Felt dirty and without being worthy.
You (or at least others) might get the drift.
And - more importantly - these kids (boys and girls alike) were vulnerable. And believe me - easy prey. And prey they were. The most respected members of the flock, leaders of youth groups and excursions who prayed with us and always told us that we could always come to them with any question about our faith and life in general. These were the wolves. Males as well as females. They longed for the confessions. Let the kids show what they had done. Wanted to see in detail. Some even went further. Did not constraint themselves to confessions and private shows of underage maturation.
So yeah I learned early that porn is to blame for a rotten society. Porn is the culprit. Not people.
Sorry, but what you wrote is nearly verbatim the arguments that were hammered into us.
I don't buy them. Not anymore.
Like equating criticizing unhealthy eating of candy and junk food to an opposition to "food" would be similar.
You say that like those are bad things.
And they have been quoting it in a few threads in this conversations.
Do you not see how the infinite novelty of endless porn videos accessible in the palm of your hand is different than the (crude and still objectionable) magazines sold in corner stores?
At the time many lighters and cards had nude images. It was much more common and celebrated.
There are endless videos on any topic.
Sex is a perfectly enjoyable past-time, similar to woodworking or snowboarding, and nothing changes about its morality when you record it on a camera.
It is also worth noting that pornography has existed in essentially every human culture that has had writing or visual artistry. The noble spirit of mankind, if such a thing exists, has yet to crumble.
Isn't it fun to assemble a string of highly judgmental sounding words and tired clichés without providing any actual scientific data behind them?
Doesn't the abuse of the innocent image happen in the minds of the users. How do you police those thoughts?
What most people don't realize is how awfully strong the sex drive is and can get given time... since they never let it get to that point.
And I'm saying this after 6weeks of complete abstinence.
It's utterly distracting and frustrating, making it extremely hard to focus and get any work done.
Rubbed one out and I can finally focus again and do some quality programming work.
Should have rubbed one out way sooner than that. The amount of actual work I've missed out due to this is not negligible.
There a whole wide spectrum between "I'm kind of horny", "I think i'm pretty darn horny" and actually full-blast horny.
In due time, sex will move up to no1 spot in the list of priorities.
And if doesn't, then you're either old (or getting there) or perhaps never had a particularly strong sex-drive to begin with.
Sex-drive is just an insanely powerful force in men, most men have experienced but only a small sliver of how powerful it can get, since they never let it get there, because porn is always there and easily accessible, and you can just rub one out without porn too.
So is hunger. So is survival. I don't think you understand what I have written. If your instincts are putting sex at the top of the list, maybe it's time to have sex, with a real person, instead of muting your instincts with soma so you can earn more fiats?
I actually love programming, and when I was refering to "programming work" I was specifically refering to my hobby projects.
> So is hunger. So is survival.
Unlike sex-drive, hunger and survival is very much aligned with what I want. I have to eat so I can keep doing things that I love (programming, creating music, etc)
While sex-drive is a hardwired instinct to procreate and have children - which is very much polar-opposite of my best self interests.
More over I do NOT want to have sex with any of my EXes or bar slobs or hiring prostututes. It just seems "like a good idea" under an altered state of mind. No thank you, very much.
I'm not my body.
And I'm not even my mind half of the time (especially when overloaded with the horny hormones).
However, being in that really horny frame of mind, you really dont want to jerk off at all, or even watch porn frankly - that is not what you want at all. You want to fuck a woman in the most direct-est animalistic raw kind of way.
I wouldn't have rubbed one out without porn, it wouldn't have happened.
Instead you do stupid shit, like start texting all your EX-es, or going on dates with woman you don't really even like or consider booking a prostitutes and all sorts of fucked up stuff...
Being horny, really horny is a trip, an altered state of mind is what i'm going to say.
Porn very effectively brings you back to earth and disables biological imperatives in a quick and enjoyable way (hell, it's not even particularly enjoyable after an extended long abstinence, since it's is waaay to intense).
Porn is definitely easy to abuse for some people, but it doesn't mean it's all bad, it is extremely useful tool.
Either the company values prude/neoconservative value signaling (the at least I wouldn't want to work there and they should openly tell people what ideology is expected) or the HR person abused their position and did not do their job in finding someone that fits the skill set and role.
Either way is hypocritical in my book.
My point is that I'm not going to censor myself or my background in anticipation of someone being offended. Let them be offended, there's lots of other places where that isn't a problem.
It's probably not the CTO, your direct manager, or even any of your peer that would be offended. Anyone in the long chain of people that are involved in your process from applicant to employee could cause a stink.
It's difficult to say one employees who might filter you out is indicative of the entire company culture. I know a lot of happy employees who absolutely hated their experience being onboarded because of 1 or 2 difficult people. But who gives a shit about how Michael from HR took 9 days to send an official offer letter if you're never going to have to interact with them again?
For example, a scheduled interview was abruptly cancelled the night before. I pursued the matter through a friend who had a senior role at the hiring company and it was determined that the (middle-aged female) in-house recruiter had been deeply offended when she followed the link on my resume and had cancelled everything. Eventually, I received a sincere apology from the CEO.
There is a real stigma, and it will affect you. Beware.