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Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by johnymontana on Thursday March 29, 2018 @06:34PM (#16711751)
https://muzzleapp.com/

Does a great job of demonstrating the value of the product.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by ricardobeat on Thursday March 29, 2018 @06:51PM (#16711928)
Note they are using real people's faces without permission (through randomuser.me / uifaces.com) for the avatars in those 'funny' sample notifications.

https://twitter.com/ohhoe/status/970753038406373377

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by aaronbasssett on Thursday March 29, 2018 @07:16PM (#16712107)
They do have permission though. The people used granted permission when they submitted their face to uifaces.com, in fact they even went so far as to submit their faces to the "authorised" section on uifaces

> those awesome folks allow their faces to be used on live products

They might not have ever imagined that their faces would be used in this manner, but they did give their permission.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by Silhouette on Friday March 30, 2018 @07:34AM (#16715269)
If you read further down the Twitter feed, it's clear that this particular person didn't think she'd granted such permission, and the whole setup looks questionable on other grounds as well.

Putting someone's face next to suggestions of serious problems like drug abuse or STIs on a public site without their knowledge or explicit consent at least raises ethical questions, and then trying to argue that it's obviously a joke when apparently the person in question has been receiving concerned mail from friends who didn't know that makes it pretty clear that any joke has gone too far. The dismissive attitude of the site developer just makes it worse.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by aaronbasssett on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:17AM (#16715481)
I did read the entire thread, the site developer offered two different solutions. But the other commenters seemed to dismiss both suggestions, preferring to fetch their pitchforks instead.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by ricardobeat on Friday March 30, 2018 @11:53AM (#16717142)
His “solution” would be to hack it to avoid that specific person's image, which is not really solving anything, other than the site author’s own problem.

The footer of uifaces still says _mockups_ and the FAQ/TOS haven’t been available for a while. This is clearly playing legal sword fighting and unethical.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by Silhouette on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:48PM (#16718237)
I'm not sure I'd consider anything he suggested a good solution, though.

What he's done, and the aggressive/dismissive way he's handled a perfectly reasonable request afterwards, are what very expensive defamation lawsuits are made of. That is as it should be, IMHO, given that notwithstanding the developer's personal opinions about visitors understanding, the consequences of his actions demonstrably did reach someone close to the person whose photo was used and cause real distress and concern.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by paulcole on Friday March 30, 2018 @02:48PM (#16718761)
> Putting someone's face next to suggestions of serious problems like drug abuse or STIs on a public site without their knowledge or explicit consent at least raises ethical questions

This was the plot of a Friends episode like 20 years ago. Joey's face is used in a herpes ad in the subway.

I think he got paid but the issue is the same. Give someone carte blanche to use your likeness and there might be some negative consequences.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by Silhouette on Friday March 30, 2018 @05:01PM (#16719762)
Give someone carte blanche to use your likeness and there might be some negative consequences.

But clearly in this case the lady didn't believe she'd given carte blanche to use her likeness even in such an obviously offensive manner, as she repeatedly mentions only expecting it to be used in mockups.

Moreover, such evidence as anyone has linked to from that Twitter feed seems to support her side of the story more than his so far. There is no explicit licence available anywhere that I can see, apparently there used to be some sort of separate area where people offered their photos for production use as well, but that no longer seems to exist, the FAQ no longer seems to be working, and there's no indication that this particular lady's photo was in that section.

In any case, the onus is definitely on the guy whose site is posting her photo next to that kind of content to justify his actions here. It doesn't take a genius to realise that this could seriously upset someone even if he is covered legally, and so far it's not even clear that he is covered legally. As I said in another comment, this is what very expensive defamation lawsuits are made of.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by avip on Thursday March 29, 2018 @06:53PM (#16711948)
"YouPorn: Billing issues"

Whoever did the writeup for that one - you have all my respect.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by piqalq on Thursday March 29, 2018 @08:38PM (#16712616)
Not as good as -

“StackOverflow: How to add numbers”

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by reificator on Thursday March 29, 2018 @08:53PM (#16712713)
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet:

http://i.imgur.com/Q3mkcnl.gif

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by neil1023 on Thursday March 29, 2018 @11:29PM (#16713470)
This is great. Nowadays, we would replace "there's a jQuery plugin for that" with "there's an NPM module for that".
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by z3t4 on Friday March 30, 2018 @05:13PM (#16719839)
All communities that depend on upvoting/downvoting summarized in a nut-shell. :P
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by tudorconstantin on Friday March 30, 2018 @02:34AM (#16714164)
Try and add 2 ethereum amounts correctly without using a library.

They have 18 decimal places.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by reificator on Friday March 30, 2018 @02:04PM (#16718399)
DECIMAL(38, 18) in SQL should do nicely for that.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by chasedehan on Thursday March 29, 2018 @11:00PM (#16713371)
I hadn't seen that before - I really need to brush up on my jQuery!
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by bartkappenburg on Friday March 30, 2018 @05:48AM (#16714873)
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by jackgolding on Monday April 02, 2018 @09:14AM (#16734177)
hahaha i thought this was a billing issues landing page for YouPorn which was well designed, couldn't find it!
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by fnord123 on Thursday March 29, 2018 @07:26PM (#16712180)
Cute app but I have to share something I learned a week or so ago: you can silence all notifications if you click the Notification icon in the top right corner. Then scroll UP and turn on Do Not Disturb.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by M4v3R on Thursday March 29, 2018 @08:06PM (#16712420)
Actually you can Alt (Option) click that icon to enable Do Not Disturb without actually opening the notifications center :).
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by spiralganglion on Thursday March 29, 2018 @09:27PM (#16712873)
Mac pro tip: Option-click everything. It's remarkable how many secrets are lurking behind near every UI element.

And once you've option-clicked, also option-shift-click, command-click, control-click, etc.

An easy favourite is the Wifi menu bar item. Option-click to see all sorts of useful info about your current connection, including IP address, MAC address, connection speed (Tx Rate), the amount of noise, etc. And when you've option-clicked the menu, hovering over network names shows you the key info about that network.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by M4v3R on Friday March 30, 2018 @06:34AM (#16715026)
Yeah, pretty much every icon in the menu bar has an Option-click alternative. I very often Option-click the volume button, which lets you select input and output devices without opening the sound preferences pane.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by riazrizvi on Friday March 30, 2018 @12:01AM (#16713583)
I don't get why Apple just doesn't provide more UI tips, like tooltips on first use of the UI. There are so many little things like this that would be great to know. For example on Windows Dialog popups, the labels for each option underline the letter for the keyboard shortcut. Did you know that Apple has keyboard shortcuts for dialog popups too, if you press CMD+letter? It took me years to figure that one out.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by qntty on Thursday March 29, 2018 @09:22PM (#16712845)
It sounds like the purpose of muzzle is to enable Do Not Disturb automatically so you don't have to remember.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by drewmate on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:23PM (#16713180)
I have a few qualms with this app: [1]

1. For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by writing a shell script, compiling your own custom X server, and then monitoring the screen state for full-screen apps. For Windows or Mac, you just remote desktop to your Linux box with built-in software.

2. It doesn't actually reroute the notifications. Most people I know want to be able to perform presentations without the visual clutter of notifications, but they still carry a phone to check their Instagram while presenting. This does not solve their notification issue.

3. It does not seem very "viral" or income-generating. I know this is premature at this point, but without charging users for the service, is it reasonable to expect to make money off of this?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

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In reality, this is a great landing page and a cool idea for an app. Also, I have nothing but respect for people who share their honest, thoughtful assessments on HN. The future is tough to predict.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by aroman on Thursday March 29, 2018 @10:36PM (#16713241)
if you think compiling a custom X server is "trivial", we must have very different ideas about what that word means
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by sah2ed on Friday March 30, 2018 @03:22AM (#16714353)
It's a running joke about DropBox. The giveaway is in the link in the parent's post.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by ddispaltro on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:10AM (#16713841)
I think you missed the joke.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by saagarjha on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:47AM (#16713971)
> It does not seem very "viral" or income-generating. I know this is premature at this point, but without charging users for the service, is it reasonable to expect to make money off of this?

Does everything have to be a moneymaker? Like you said, this would be trivial to setup yourself. It's a nice piece of software that provides some advertising for his other products.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by pc86 on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:42AM (#16715615)
Go to the link in the comment...
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by saagarjha on Friday March 30, 2018 @03:15PM (#16718977)
Ah, I didn't realize that this was a reference to the Dropbox comment. Gotcha.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by mojomark on Thursday March 29, 2018 @08:04PM (#16712413)
"...a week or so ago..."

That's awesome.

Seriously though. For those of us who need our chat on despite the frequent unpopular rants of our sister/brethren, I welcome this attempt to filter. Btw - excelent landing page!

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by amorphid on Thursday March 29, 2018 @07:34PM (#16712227)
Good tip, thanks.

The only reason I might like muzzle a bit more is that you don't have to remember to turn it on & off (according to the landing page, I have not yet tried it).

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by fouc on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:35AM (#16713916)
I almost want the reverse of this - fake hilariously embarrassing notifications.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by citruscomputing on Friday March 30, 2018 @11:10AM (#16716709)
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by pc86 on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:43AM (#16715618)
That you can somehow trigger on someone else's machine while they're screen sharing!
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by alpb on Friday March 30, 2018 @12:37AM (#16713713)
Actually it isn't. It does not talk about a lot of important details/questions one might wonder before downloading the app, like:

    - "how does this app do it"
    - "how is this app any different than macOS's Do Not Disturb feature"
    - "where's the source code for this app, why would I trust this software with full access to my compute (it requires that)"
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by azeirah on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:04AM (#16715408)
If there's one thing I realized as a technical person/programmer: it's that other people do not think like this at all. Barely anyone give a crap about source-code, it could be written in an amalgamation of COBOL, ActionScript, windows .bat files and C#/.NET to glue everything together. As long as it does what it does without causing major trouble, it's fine for them.

I guess you could add a link to a FAQ with answers to questions you might be interested in for those who do care.. and they do have that, so it's no problem whatsoever.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by exotree on Friday March 30, 2018 @01:03AM (#16713808)
A lot of folks who may download this app are unlikely to care about any of those questions. They only care that their problem is solved. If they landed on this website during their searches for an app to snooze notifications, the above the fold first paragraph answers that succinctly, promptly followed by a download button.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by eljimmy on Thursday March 29, 2018 @06:48PM (#16711896)
That truly is a great landing page. The fake notifications were so entertaining I shared it with some friends.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by andkon on Thursday March 29, 2018 @06:37PM (#16711787)
I just fully belly laughed my way through that. So good
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by andrei_says_ on Thursday March 29, 2018 @08:00PM (#16712395)
IMO the examples are ridiculously unlikely.

I’d very much focus on something more business-oriented and believable, like a question about a report and in an extreme case, possibly speaking about a client in a less than professional tone.

“meet me in the bathroom” is not within the realm of feasibility for anyone I know.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by gtm1260 on Thursday March 29, 2018 @09:34PM (#16712904)
I don't think that's the point. Many of us have ourselves or seen someone we know go up to present and have private notifications be displayed as they hustle to turn on Do not Disturb. While they aren't as extreme as this, these are funny and make the viewer recall a time when they were in this situation, and perhaps see how much better they'd be if the downloaded the app.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by inostia on Thursday March 29, 2018 @08:53PM (#16712705)
Yeah, but then it wouldn't be funny.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by dbg31415 on Friday March 30, 2018 @02:14AM (#16714084)
So I get that you can Option + Click on the Notifications icon in the upper right to turn on Do Not Disturb... but I love that this does it automatically for you.

And it's free. No brainer. Yes, this app is great.

Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by wyclif on Thursday March 29, 2018 @11:08PM (#16713395)
It's also one of the most entertaining landing pages ever.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by therealmarv on Friday March 30, 2018 @04:37AM (#16714648)
alt + click on notification bar on top right (which looks like some notes, kinda the burger menu) gets it also done (for free). Nice page though.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by NightlyDev on Thursday March 29, 2018 @11:56PM (#16713569)
That page was actually shit. The font is really small and the text to background contrast is really bad on mobile.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by mosselman on Friday March 30, 2018 @05:54AM (#16714905)
Very nice landing page. The funny notifications made me download it.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by doubleocherry on Thursday March 29, 2018 @08:02PM (#16712411)
Did not realize this was a problem :-)
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by nkkollaw on Thursday March 29, 2018 @07:23PM (#16712159)
Best I've seen I think ever.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by djflutt3rshy on Thursday March 29, 2018 @06:43PM (#16711848)
Funny release notes too.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by roselan on Thursday March 29, 2018 @07:18PM (#16712117)
CodeKit reviews stand their ground too.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by protomyth on Thursday March 29, 2018 @07:42PM (#16712277)
Funny, but skip politics in your demonstrations, no need to limit your audience.
Re:Ask HN: Examples of great landing pages? by benetzz on Thursday March 29, 2018 @06:43PM (#16711852)
ahaha, nice one!