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Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by eglintondust on Thursday October 08, 2026 @11:13AM (#50006812)
So can I finally download more RAM?
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by smallmancontrov on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:38PM (#50010926)
https://downloadmoreram.com/

Whoa, new options! I'm downloading the Quantum RAM with Haptic Feedback.

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by swed420 on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:50PM (#50011112)
You wouldn't download a car
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by skavi on Thursday October 08, 2026 @04:29PM (#50011748)
probably not to your current computer. this works on supporting memory types that do compression in hardware.
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by vfosnar on Thursday October 08, 2026 @11:07AM (#50006751)
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by x0z on Thursday October 08, 2026 @11:55AM (#50007403)
Thank you <3
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by dang on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:30PM (#50010830)
Added above. Thanks!
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by Kevin_Flynn on Thursday October 08, 2026 @09:19AM (#50005494)
Ram Doubler, for Mac and Win 3.x, 1996

https://winworldpc.com/product/connectix-ram-double/windows-...

Nice to see its back, with better performance.

History repeated, with refinement.

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by cwillu on Thursday October 08, 2026 @11:31AM (#50007050)
The article appears to misunderstand the point of the project, and mostly just describes what zswap already does (writing compressed pages back into ram), rather than talking about cram's hardware-offloaded compression that allows cacheline-level access rather than page-level. (And they appear to be aware that they don't really understand it: “My explanation of CRAM might not be completely correct”)

The phoronix article is better, and I say that as someone who usually detests the quality of phoronix's technical writing.

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by tancop on Thursday October 08, 2026 @01:59PM (#50009443)
It's not really about hardware offload, the biggest problem with zswap is that it's swap. The rest of the kernel treats it like a fast SSD (which is still incredibly slow compared to RAM) instead of slower memory that needs a bit of special handling on writes.

NUMA maps a lot closer to what compressed RAM actually is. The subsystem is more aware of CRAMs specifics so it can make better decisions about where to put allocations and everything gets faster. And it's less overhead because swap is not really optimized for frequent direct access but for NUMA it's the most basic function.

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by ahartmetz on Thursday October 08, 2026 @09:14PM (#50014778)
Whoa, building it on top of the NUMA logic is pretty clever - also, finally all that complicated code does something useful on normal computers!
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by ragall on Friday October 09, 2026 @04:08PM (#50025982)
The article was written by an LLM. No understanding was involved, no brain cells harmed in the process.
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by madduci on Thursday October 08, 2026 @11:23AM (#50006932)
Finally we can run frontier models locally
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by throawayonthe on Thursday October 08, 2026 @01:32PM (#50008950)
one would hope model weights are already high entropy enough and would not be improved by a general-purpose memory compression algo?
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by ranger_danger on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:35AM (#50020352)
It turns out that there is still lots of room for improvement: https://huggingface.co/prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-gguf
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by sroussey on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:42PM (#50011012)
We brute force AI models right now because a) we don’t know better, and b) it’s premature optimization.

I beg to differ on point b, but no one is delaying their next model just so they can concentrate on optimization.

It’s coming though.

One example: https://siliconangle.com/2026/07/28/ai-model-compression-sta...

Another is separating the the intelligence part of the model from the known facts part of the model (which can be better compressed)

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by djmips on Friday October 09, 2026 @03:33AM (#50017282)
The Chinese breakthroughs are often around optimization. And I gather it's because they are constrained and very bright so it's a natural progression.
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by ranger_danger on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:31AM (#50020296)
IMO Restrictions are exactly what sparks creativity in people... whereas too many options leads to choice paralysis, which is what I fear is a big problem in the FOSS world.

Don't get me wrong... I think having choices is still good, I just think that having too many choices is not equally as good, or necessarily better.

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by tintor on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:50PM (#50011118)
Compression doesn't really work for model weights.

Model quantization and model distillation are two techniques to reduce model size.

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by madduci on Friday October 09, 2026 @12:49AM (#50016110)
It was sarcastic
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by variadix on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:06AM (#50019946)
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by cyberclimb on Thursday October 08, 2026 @01:33PM (#50008978)
the recording of the presentation has got to be on this YT channel but I only scrubbed through 2 videos (8h each) and it's not easy to find

https://www.youtube.com/@LinuxPlumbersConference

not sure where it falls in the schedule here either https://lpc.events/event/20/timetable/#all

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by tux3 on Thursday October 08, 2026 @03:58PM (#50011242)
Unfortunately the recording is missing audio for half the talk. A frequent issue for the plumbers livestreams this year.

https://www.youtube.com/live/OPRciCSsdS4?t=2031

Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by cyberclimb on Thursday October 08, 2026 @04:23PM (#50011635)
Legend! Thanks for digging it up
Re:New Linux tech compresses memory in RAM, as RAM, for 452x... by yonatan8070 on Friday October 09, 2026 @01:08AM (#50016220)
Is the hardware support this needs common? Can it be used on regular x86-64 desktops/laptops or is it for specialized hardware?