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Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by hybridtupel on Thursday November 13, 2025 @01:45PM (#45918784)
I guess now is the best time to switch to Linux. MacOS 26 being super sluggish and looking like a soap bubble game for children. Windows becoming a SkyNet OS. Meanwhile Steam just announced their new hardware on SteamOS, emphasizing that users still own their hardware and can install whatever they want.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by anvuong on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:02PM (#45919047)
Unfortunately the most popular distro (Ubuntu - Canonical) is behaving more and more like Microsoft. I updated to 25.10 last week and it decided to ignore my settings, reset the snap priority and reinstall the snap firefox package, all without my consent. I was fed up when Canonical decided to hijack apt to inject their own proprietary closed-source snap packages, now after having dealt with it again and again after each major upgrade, I just switched to Fedora Gnome a few days ago and I'm not missing anything with Ubuntu.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by neilv on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:15PM (#45919218)
Corporate ethics-wise, Canonical is vastly better than Microsoft.

But I prefer Debian Stable, for reasons both pragmatic and on-principle:

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/d...

(Or people can go to a confusing download page: https://www.debian.org/distrib/ )

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by sharts on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:05PM (#45920530)
Just BSD and chill
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by sekh60 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:22PM (#45919325)
The Amazon Lens was pretty bad ethically.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by happymellon on Friday November 14, 2025 @03:35AM (#45925026)
> Canonical is vastly better than Microsoft.

However Canonical apologised, and removed it.

Microsoft doubled down, adding more adverts.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by KetoManx64 on Friday November 14, 2025 @11:49AM (#45928684)
Debian isn't heading down the best path either with their their policies (keeping the child sex predator on their payroll to do conferences that often times parents bring kids to, forcing the removal of the fortune packafe because it was deemed offensive, openly stating that straight white males shouldn't apply for internship, etc)
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by gspencley on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:18PM (#45919265)
I switched to Mint (Mate) around 2012 or so because of radical UI changes made by Canonical. At the time, the "mobile revolution" was the big industry trend. Windows 8 had come out which was designed for touch screens (and people hated it) ... and Canonical released a new default desktop environment (I think it was Unity? Memory is fuzzy). It was shocking to me and when I complained about it, a friend recommended Mint.

The nice thing about Linux is that you have max choice. That can pose problems for new users who might be a bit overwhelmed but we shouldn't pretend that Canonical "owns" Linux or that everyone is necessarily going to land there. I recommend Mint when people tell me they're thinking of giving Linux a try. Haven't given Ubuntu a second thought in years.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by khedoros1 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:30PM (#45920107)
I went from Ubuntu to Mint around the same time on my laptop. I took my desktop from Ubuntu to Fedora. A later laptop followed it, because I was tired of the little differences.

Ubuntu is completely off my radar too. So many dumb things that often lasted a few releases. Like ads for their cloud services, Unity for a while, window controls on the left for a while...

My biggest problem with Mint was that upgrading the OS became a hassle if I put it off for too long (which I started doing after a not-so-smooth upgrade experience, one release).

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by DemocracyFTW2 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:05PM (#45920516)
I'm happy to report that I upgraded my Mint from the previous to the most recent version without any snags. I then discovered I was still on an older kernel version which required a little more research, but went without any difficulties. The second part is admittedly something that not-so technical people will have considerable difficulty in even realizing. But all in all I can say that Mint is a solid, stable, and usable system for experts and novices alike.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by dv35z on Friday November 14, 2025 @02:24PM (#45930941)
Curious your experience with Mint Debian Edition. I currently use Debian Stable as my workstation & local server - I considered Mint, but since it was Ubuntu, I held off...
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by roscas on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:50PM (#45919617)
Some people like Ubuntu but I don't because of so many reasons. If rather use Debian.

Same for Fedora that I don't like also. I prefer to use RockyLinux or AlmaLinux if you really need a RHEL compatible system.

There are other options, most of them based on Debian or Ubuntu.

My desktop choice is ArchLinux with Plasma or XFCE4. No snaps, no crap.

My servers choice is RockyLinux 8 or 10.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by klaussilveira on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:22PM (#45919324)
Ubuntu was always like this. Use Debian.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by anticensor on Saturday November 15, 2025 @02:48AM (#45935762)
Ubuntu was like this since 2009, use Pardus (which is based on Debian and follows roughly the same release process as Ubuntu, but no snaps).
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by xeonmc on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:09PM (#45919143)
Perhaps SteamOS will take up the mantle.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by WorldMaker on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:06PM (#45919837)
Or distros taking cues from it like Bazzite.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by surgical_fire on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:38PM (#45920952)
Mint is love, Mint is life.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by anonymousiam on Thursday November 13, 2025 @09:34PM (#45923224)
Canonical needs snap in order to distinguish them from all the other Linux distros, so they've gone overboard to make sure that you "need" it.

I think it's horrible that they've taken extreme measures to overtly circumvent their users' desire to run the Firefox distributed through Mozilla's repo.

The following link describes how to overcome the latest version of Canonical's extreme insistence on the snap version of Firefox. It's almost laughable when you see how far they've gone to try to lock you in.

https://gist.github.com/jfeilbach/78d0ef94190fb07dee9ebfc340...

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by stubish on Friday November 14, 2025 @12:03AM (#45924027)
What is unfortunate? You found one alternative was not to your liking, and another right there to take its place. You didn't have to pay for anything. You were not locked in to anything. Now you are not fighting your OS. Seems to be working as it should.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by scuff3d on Friday November 14, 2025 @12:46AM (#45924236)
Debian, Mint, Fedora...
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by wltr on Friday November 14, 2025 @04:36AM (#45925350)
Who are you the people still praising Ubuntu? Where does it come from, this Ubuntu by default thing? Why? I genuinely interested. It was one of my first distros, but that was when they were doing this shipping CD thing. There are countless of distros that are better out of the box, e.g. Fedora. Sincerely, I don’t understand. Who uses Ubuntu these days, and why. Especially on servers, lol. Why not use Debian then?
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by rurban on Friday November 14, 2025 @07:16AM (#45926072)
Privately I'm using Fedora, because that works. But my last two companies are using Ubuntu overall. Maybe because there are so many packages available. It's still far less stable than Fedora. I have to fight stupid Ubuntu bugs every single day. On my Fedora machines it tested OK, so that is my gold standard.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by turtletontine on Thursday November 13, 2025 @01:51PM (#45918878)
I’ve been using Linux distros daily for >10years now, and I only get more confident that I made the right choice.

Pretty much the only things I miss out on are Microsoft Office and Photoshop. Gaming works astonishingly well on Linux these days with Steam+Proton.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by foobarian on Thursday November 13, 2025 @01:57PM (#45918971)
> Gaming works astonishingly well on Linux these days with Steam+Proton.

This alone is the last frontier IMO. It's the only reason I still run Win11 on a gaming PC with a big Nvidia. Take that away and their marketshare will tank.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by nartho on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:15PM (#45919230)
I wouldn't call it the last frontier. Gaming works well enough for me to not have to worry about.

I am, however, obligated to keep a Windows partition around because I do music production. If there are good DAWs that run natively on Linux, almost all plugins won't run on Linux. Everything plugin that runs as standalone or anything similar is guaranteed to not work on Linux.

I am thinking about getting a Mac mini for music production only, seems it's probably the lesser of 2 evils

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by klaussilveira on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:24PM (#45919339)
Which VSTs you had problems with? Have you tried LinVst?
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by thewebguyd on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:53PM (#45919663)
Last frontier for gamers.

I'm still on macOS for the foreseeable future as long as there's no Lightroom (Classic) or Photoshop on Linux. I'd even settle for CaptureOne or Exposure. DarkTable still isn't there, nor is the UI as easy to work with.

Not to mention other business uses and different fields whose apps are exclusively Windows, not even mac and Windows.

Windows has a captive audience. Yeah, Linux can and will take some, but it'll still be a small piece of the pie, unfortunately. Everyone else has no choice but to put up with the abuse.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by fletchowns on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:06PM (#45919105)
> Gaming works astonishingly well on Linux these days

They have certainly made a lot of progress, but there are many of us that will be stuck unless all the new AAA titles are supported. Battlefield 6 is a notable recent example of a wildly popular game that you can't play on a Steam Deck.

Seems like it's really just the anti-cheat that is holding things up. I wish every game studio out there didn't have to come up with their own anti-cheat system. Is this something Valve could solve once and for all with their OS & platform? That seems like something that would make the 30% tax a lot more appealing to game studios.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by netsharc on Friday November 14, 2025 @09:10AM (#45926817)
I wonder if the solution would be multi-booting. Keep the OS open, but games with anti-cheat would boot out of its own partition, with a secured bootloader, and secured lightweight OS, just enough to load the game..
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by TremendousJudge on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:06PM (#45919108)
Is there any video production software that runs on Linux well nowadays?
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by dfxm12 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:25PM (#45919364)
I've used Shotcut, it's simple and easy: https://github.com/mltframework/shotcut

I've tried Kdenlive, but honestly, shotcut met my needs, so I didn't explore it too much: https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kdenlive

DaVinci Resolve is also available for linux. I've never used it though.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by phibz on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:36PM (#45919500)
Kdenlive isnt bad
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by JeanMii on Friday November 14, 2025 @02:30AM (#45924711)
All the Davinci software runs well and I consider it class leading in its category of software.

Design, sound production and cad are all lacking strong alternatives on Linux.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by sprkwd on Friday November 14, 2025 @05:52AM (#45925713)
https://reaper.fm has a Linux build.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by pjmlp on Thursday November 13, 2025 @01:57PM (#45918975)
Until normies start getting fully working GNU/Linux laptops on PC stores, it will be the same migration story since Windows XP days, that gets repeated every single time Microsoft does something folks don't agree with.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by WolfeReader on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:01PM (#45919044)
They also need tech support. Desktop Linux is in great shape, but most current Desktop Linux users are capable and willing to troubleshoot their own problems.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by thewebguyd on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:04PM (#45919081)
Yep. And they will ultimately return them or be disappointed when [insert xyz app] doesn't work.

Gamers are only one case that's currently being solved. Devs are already solved (except for iOS). Creatives are a different story entirely.

If anything, Microsoft's decisions are more likely to boost mac sales than they are to create any kind of meaningful normie migration to Linux. Especially if Apple goes through with the rumored low-cost macbook. That thing will sell like hotcakes, and macOS share is already growing as is.

We are many times more likely to see the "Year of the macOS desktop" than we are the "Year of the Linux desktop"

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by pjmlp on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:00PM (#45919757)
Not every Dev is a UNIX developer, for some reason this misunderstanding keeps being repeated.

Proton is a betting on the wrong worse, until Microsoft decides to put an end to it, in whatever way they feel like it. They own Windows, and are one of the biggest publishers in the industry, when grouping all studios they own.

Apple margins are too much for economies not on the same level as USA.

I do agree with devices being returned, this happened quite often with netbooks.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by NoGravitas on Friday November 14, 2025 @10:29AM (#45927747)
Chromebooks seem to be fairly successful, despite [insert xyz app] not working on them.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by LennyHenrysNuts on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:17PM (#45919250)
We don't want a bunch of entitled ex-windows users shitting up our forums thank you very much.

Lets hope they all buy a Mac.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by workfromspace on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:54PM (#45920401)
I apologize but weren't we all one of those normies when we first started using Linux or any other computer?
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by LennyHenrysNuts on Sunday November 16, 2025 @08:41PM (#45950145)
Not me. My first computer was a Dragon 64. I was an outsider from day one!
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by pjmlp on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:59PM (#45919746)
Unfortunately not everyone can afford Apple margins outside a few selected tier 1 economies.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by NexRebular on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:01PM (#45919043)
And as linux is becoming more and more a corpo controlled monoculture, the time has never been better to switch to *BSD and illumos where true freedom awaits.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by sekh60 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:32PM (#45920134)
You mean the *NIXes that via their license hold dev freedom (and corporate freedom without the forced source publication) over user freedom (the purpose of the GPL)?
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by BeFlatXIII on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:41PM (#45919537)
IIRC, MacOS 26 sluggishness is a problem with Electron, not a mistake on Apple’s part.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by naIak on Thursday November 13, 2025 @02:47PM (#45919586)
"MacOS 26 being super sluggish" is the kind of thing I only read here on this website. For me and everybody I know who upgraded to it it's running fine.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by johaugum on Thursday November 13, 2025 @03:01PM (#45919774)
Can confirm, has been flawless for me. I waited until 2 weeks after release to upgrade, possible I avoided some initial friction that way.

The only device I’ve found more sluggish after this recent OS upgrade is my Apple Watch Ultra (gen 1).

Animations when navigating the OS are noticeably sluggish where the previous version was smooth as butter. This degradation has persisted through multiple minor version updates since, so it seems to be permanent.

Disappointing for what is marketed as the most powerful watch in their lineup.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by Gigachad on Thursday November 13, 2025 @07:28PM (#45922488)
Yeah on my M1 it’s running as fast as it ever did. I have experienced a bug on both my personal and work Mac on 26 where the internal screen fails to turn on sometimes when using an external display. Hoping that gets fixed but otherwise I have no issues.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by deafpolygon on Friday November 14, 2025 @07:13AM (#45926060)
m4 and m4 pro here, runs like butter
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by rsynnott on Friday November 14, 2025 @10:14AM (#45927563)
It was painfully slow if you were using Electron crap for a few weeks, due to an Electron bug. This may have coloured peoples' impressions.
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by grishka on Thursday November 13, 2025 @04:58PM (#45921155)
Linux (with the "traditional" userspace) is a mess on the inside, has always been, and will always be. It blows my mind that there still isn't a universal, easy way to compile binaries that would run on any distro, of any version — something that all other mainstream OSes have solved from day one.

Yes, I know that AppImage and Flatpak are a thing. No, they are not the answer, because they, too, all come with their own issues.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by thewebguyd on Thursday November 13, 2025 @05:51PM (#45921754)
There's a reason that Win32 is currently the stable ABI for Linux (via Wine/Proton).

And you know what? Tbh, I don't see a problem with that. If it keeps improving and eventually expands beyond gaming and can start running some of the stuff that can't currently (modern office, adobe stuff, etc.) then why not? There's decades of windows-only apps that there's just not enough time or talent in the world to re-create for Linux, so might as well put effort into Windows compatibility and just start running Windows apps.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by grishka on Thursday November 13, 2025 @06:22PM (#45922035)
I don't disagree with that, but I feel like ReactOS is more promising in this regard, as it reimplements not only win32 API/ABI, but also the NT kernel with its stable API/ABI, so it would allow using Windows drivers as well. I mean, no translation layer is better than even the best translation layer :)
Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by marak830 on Thursday November 13, 2025 @05:38PM (#45921608)
I switched 3 weeks ago. (First Ubuntu now the badly named POP!_OS), and couldn't be happier.

Fast, a slight learning curve(took me a weekend), and I'm back gaming and coding regularly.

Re:Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change by sunaookami on Friday November 14, 2025 @03:26AM (#45924968)
Surely 2026 will be the year of the Linux desktop!