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Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by khurs on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:14PM (#44598861)
>The order would dictate that AI companies getting federal contracts be politically neutral and unbiased, an effort to combat what administration officials see as overly liberal AI models, the people said.

Scary stuff.

This is why we need LLMs from many different countries. I use Deepseek for any non-China political type question as using a Western One can't be relied upon as a rule.

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by wepple on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:17PM (#44598888)
At some point (possibly already?), having no federal contracts will be a massive competitive advantage.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by mcphage on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:52PM (#44599191)
> politically neutral and unbiased

I wonder what those words will mean this time?

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by xnx on Thursday July 17, 2025 @08:39PM (#44599945)
Trained on the fair and balanced content from Fox News.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by mcphage on Friday July 18, 2025 @11:38AM (#44605930)
Fox News as the balance for One America News...
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by CephalopodMD on Thursday July 17, 2025 @07:23PM (#44599428)
AI labs already do everything they can to have politically neutral responses. It turns out that when you pre-train on all the content ever produced by humanity and post-train on real people's preferences, the result is extremely liberal. That's been my experience at least. It's a little counterintuitive, and there are definitely corner cases where misaligned AI becomes more conservative, hateful, or authoritarian, but that's the trend overall. I can all but guarantee that every single major AI product out there would be even more liberal with trust and safety interventions turned off.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by jacknews on Thursday July 17, 2025 @08:08PM (#44599759)
> conservative, hateful ... authoritarian

sums it up nicely

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by JoeOfTexas on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:13PM (#44598844)
Is AI free speech?
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by amanaplanacanal on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:17PM (#44598892)
Yeah this administration is definitely all-in on free speech. They need to be called out on this shit.

I'm beginning to think that "woke" is code for not racist enough.

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by plorkyeran on Thursday July 17, 2025 @07:30PM (#44599498)
Beginning?
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by outworlder on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:23PM (#44598948)
> I'm beginning to think that "woke" is code for not racist enough.

Or not misogynist enough, or basically anything involving empathy and human decency.

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by krapp on Thursday July 17, 2025 @08:49PM (#44600021)
Yeah.

I don't want it to be but AI is going to be the mediator of all human communication and access to information and the generator of all cultural expression soon so it kind of has to be. Otherwise "free speech" is just what people say to one another face to face.

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by alex_suzuki on Friday July 18, 2025 @08:49AM (#44604137)
> the generator of all cultural expression soon

I sincerely hope that is not the case.

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by 7e on Thursday July 17, 2025 @07:53PM (#44599655)
Let’s do the opposite: let’s order the executive to be politically neutral instead. Or would thay fail due to lack of natural intelligence?
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by UltraSane on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:14PM (#44598864)
Electing morons has some bad consequences. This would make US LLMs not much better than Chinese ones when it comes to censorship.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by techpineapple on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:07PM (#44598794)
This would be a distaster, and is totally predictable.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by hncensorstruth on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:28PM (#44599000)
Can we get rid of woke people too? Insane activists training models gives you 'it's not ok to be white' viewpoints. And behind that push is the usual suspects, every single time.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by mcphage on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:50PM (#44599170)
> And behind that push is the usual suspects, every single time.

Who are the usual suspects again?

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by bigyabai on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:28PM (#44599007)
You can't stop people from training models like that without abolishing private capital.

Good luck advocating for that without getting called pinko libscum.

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by mikece on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:23PM (#44598956)
Why doesn't anyone get upset by the fact that the use of Executive Orders has been massively abused by both parties and needs to be reigned in my Congress? It was the intent of the founders that Congress make the laws and The Executive carries them out. An executive order should be limited to how to do what Congress has mandated/authorized, not to effectively rule by edict because Congress passed legislation that allows absurdly wide latitude for The Executive to make orders (or agencies to make regulations).

As for whatever this EO is supposed to be about: Trump can't spell "AI" so I can't take his opinions on this field seriously.

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by jsbisviewtiful on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:34PM (#44599050)
Because Republicans do not care about the checks and balances of the Constitution. They only care about their own power and not the future for the next generations.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by yakz on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:45PM (#44599133)
I think the answer is probably that life is easy enough. Directly or indirectly, as a lord optimizing for just barely good enough will leave you in power. Until an invader shows up.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by mrkeen on Thursday July 17, 2025 @06:36PM (#44599059)
> Why doesn't anyone get upset by the fact that the use of Executive Orders has been massively abused by both parties

Because all you can do in a two-party system is vote in the other EO abuser.

Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by jsbisviewtiful on Friday July 18, 2025 @01:03PM (#44607143)
"Abused by both parties" is not a valid argument. Republican's use of EO are blatantly unconstitutional and they gloat about how it's unconstitutional, whereas usually Democrats' use of EO are deliberately designed to be within the rule of law or at least arguable as to whether or not it's legal. Republicans are pushing through whatever EO they want right now because they have a majority in Congress, which is at a historic level of dysfunction and corruption and will let the executive branch rule like a king.
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by 0x457 on Thursday July 17, 2025 @10:05PM (#44600470)
RIP Gemma
Re:White House Prepares Executive Order Targeting 'Woke AI' by dinfinity on Friday July 18, 2025 @10:37AM (#44605126)
Remember when the same people just a few weeks ago wanted to block any state from enforcing any law or regulation affecting "artificial intelligence models," "artificial intelligence systems," or "automated decision systems" for 10 years?

I 'member.