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Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by H8crilA on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:10AM (#41366236)
Has Google launched one successful new product in the last 10-15 years? Not acquired and polished it up, that they can usually do, but actually launched themselves.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by diggan on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:21AM (#41366318)
> Has Google launched one successful new product in the last 10-15 years?

What exactly is considered a success here? That it lives on for at least a decade? More than N active users per month?

I think the reason they graveyard so many products is because their line of "successful" is much higher than what a scrappy startup would consider success. So even products with thousands of active users would be put to their death bed instead of iterated upon.

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by Yujf on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:41AM (#41366474)
Sure, but that sounds like an awful business strategy. I would imagine people who have been burned by google dropping support being less likely to use new google products in the future
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by dartos on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @08:16AM (#41366708)
Their whole business is AdWords.

Everything else is just icing / data harvesting.

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by justinclift on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @11:56AM (#41368936)
Stadia comes to mind.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by Iulioh on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:41AM (#41366473)
--- What exactly is considered a success here? ---

Begin still available?

Maybe the Pixel phone is a success story?

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by Almondsetat on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:46AM (#41366499)
>being still available

So where can I buy the original Pixel, new, with warranty, and with the latest software? I can't, because new version have come out since, just like, for example, Google's chat applications have been "killed", but a new version has always been made

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by verandaguy on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:57AM (#41366583)
I think this is an unreasonable bar.

Pixel is a line of hardware products, and to stay competitive in Google's target market, new hardware releases are essentially necessary. Likewise the common thinking in the industry (correct or not, and most likely case-by-case) is that keeping production of older models up and running isn't viable. That's the same reason you can't get first-gen iPhones anymore.

With software, you have the benefit of not having to scrap the entire product at once -- you can keep the sites, domains, brand, whatever -- and because the vast majority of users on something like Hangouts used the official client, you could get away with arbitrary API and interface changes without losing (nearly as much) brand momentum.

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by fsflover on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @08:13AM (#41366681)
> new hardware releases are essentially necessary

What is not necessary is to prevent users from using old hardware by closing the drivers and not giving the specs.

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by verandaguy on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @08:30AM (#41366812)
Is this really preventing users from using old hardware? Are old devices being bricked?

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see drivers getting open sourced when they're going out of support, but on its own, not doing so isn't preventing people from using old hardware in most cases.

In any case, in your opinion, does a successful hardware product have to open-source its drivers and specs at EOL? Is any other hardware product a failure by that metric?

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by fsflover on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @08:34AM (#41366844)
> Are old devices being bricked?

They become very insecure without any possibility to fix that.

> does a successful hardware product have to open-source its drivers and specs at EOL?

Successful from the point of view of the consumer, yes.

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by ErikBjare on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:32AM (#41366404)
Google Fit APIs were deprecated in favor of Health Connect, which gives users more control of their data (and is used by Google Fit itself). This is a win for users, not your usual killed by Google product.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by sidcool on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:22AM (#41366330)
10-15 years? I would say Google Photos, Pixel, Meet, Phone based GPS maps.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by AlchemistCamp on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:58AM (#41366593)
A lot of it depends on how strictly you define "new". To a lot of consumers, it looks like internal churn / re-use of previous products:

Google Picasso -> Google Photos

Google Chat -> Google Hangouts -> Google Meet

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by arielcostas on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @08:28AM (#41366795)
Picasa -> Photos was actually a new thing, right? Photos is cloud-hosted while Picasa was a program you installed on your computer and had web-sharing abilities.

Google Talk was the original one, then transitioning to Hangouts, while Allo and Duo were created too (I supposed to compete with Apple's iMessage and FaceTime), which also died, and finally we got to today with Google Chat and Google Meet.

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by pmcjones on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @09:46AM (#41379481)
I still use Picasa on Windows, but its cloud features (uploading and mapping) don’t work anymore.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by Iulioh on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:43AM (#41366485)
Sorry man, GMaps on mobile is from 2007
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by lern_too_spel on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @10:21AM (#41367863)
I think they mean turn by turn navigation, which launched in late October 2009 and so barely fits in the 15 year window. You could say that it's a feature of Google Maps, but since it relied on maps that Google made instead of licensed map data, that feature was a much larger undertaking than the previous Google Maps product to that point.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by dktp on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:20AM (#41366307)
Google Meet comes to mind. It probably won't go away any time soon and I quite like it
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by chpatrick on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:29AM (#41366380)
Isn't it rebranded hangouts?
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by ant6n on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:31AM (#41366400)
Isn't that a rebranded Chat inside Google Mail?
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by endtime on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:21AM (#41366321)
Photos is the only one that comes to mind for me. I think it launched 2015.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by Xenoamorphous on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:38AM (#41366459)
Wasn't it based on Picasa, which they acquired?
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by znkr on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @10:01AM (#41367619)
No, it was based on Google+ which was integrated with Picasa
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by ZiiS on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:47AM (#41366504)
Not sure it felt like an improvement from 2006's Picasa Web Albums at the time. Also was really only a rebrand of a cutdown version of 2011's G+
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by konschubert on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:30AM (#41366387)
Waymo
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by piva00 on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:38AM (#41366457)
Waymo is a separate entity under Alphabet Inc., it's not a "Google" product since their corporate restructuring.

Google itself, as the internet brand, hasn't really put out successful products like GMail in a long while.

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by heyjamesknight on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:53AM (#41366556)
That’s semantics. It started as an X project and was pulled out into Alphabet under Larry when they made the Alphabet change. Now that Sundar is CEO at both levels the distinction between the two entities has become fuzzy again.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by nuz on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:47AM (#41366505)
Colab arguably
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by vault on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:16AM (#41366288)
Pixel and Gemini are those that I remember right now.

EDIT Android 1.0 was released on 2024-09-23 ;)

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by peterhadlaw on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:23AM (#41366335)
Gemini launch was a disaster and will probably never wash away the early bad taste
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by fernandotakai on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:26AM (#41366361)
i got a pixel 9 and i've been trying gemini -- it's still not good (specially compared to claude).
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by bhaney on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:17AM (#41366290)
Google Fiber?

Edit: I'm confused why this is getting downvoted. Is GFiber actually not successful? Is it older than I thought?

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by digitallis42 on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:43AM (#41366488)
They stopped rolling it out, if I recall. The org is on life support at this point.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by bhaney on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:45AM (#41366493)
It just became available in my area last month (and I've been pretty happy with it after recently switching). What makes you think it's stopped rolling out?
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by Leynos on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:56AM (#41366578)
Wikipedia suggests that they stopped expanding in 2016, only resuming in 2022.

I hadn't heard about the resumption, and it is welcome news. I suspect however that many people, especially those outwith the United States, are in the same position of ignorance.

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by WorldMaker on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @02:44PM (#41371233)
Though after ruining city streets, in a drastic utter failure of basic civil engineering, and then entirely exiting a city in disgrace [1] they've left a lot of doubt and mistrust in their continued expansion "efforts".

[1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/googl...

Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by heyjamesknight on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:54AM (#41366560)
This isn’t true. Fiber is actively expanding in many markets.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by xnx on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @09:54AM (#41367540)
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by heyjamesknight on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:52AM (#41366540)
Cloud. Waymo.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by mensetmanusman on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:37AM (#41366442)
Pixel
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by blitzar on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @10:16AM (#41367791)
They launched their stock price up 15x.
Re:The Google Fit APIs will no longer be available after Jun... by Hellolearning on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @10:37AM (#41368033)
This sounds so negative.

I still use google maps every day.

Google Pixel and Google Photos are getting smart AI stuff.

The Google Pixel Camera is crazy good (at least my experience with pro 8)