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Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by phs318u on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @01:14AM (#40508711)
Breaking news! Compulsive liar attempts to repair public persona by making sweeping promise.

21st century carpet bagger.

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by quantified on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @01:43AM (#40508849)
He could just not take the money in the first place, then he wouldn't be burdened with giving it away. The fact that he wants to get it in the first place belies his real intentions.
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by RRWagner on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @03:23AM (#40509380)
well said. If those who now have 100s of billions in personal wealth had just paid their employees more...
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by refurb on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @04:10AM (#40509632)
As far as I know early employees made out like bandits at Google, Microsoft, etc.

Even the later employees did.

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by ProllyInfamous on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @12:32PM (#40513821)
>The fact that he wants to get it in the first place

"I can spend it better," is how I've heard this said by a major donor.

Unfortuneately, I don't think he's entirely incorrect =|

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by floppiplopp on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @02:51AM (#40509220)
Sam Altman-Fried?
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by sriram_malhar on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @03:13AM (#40509320)
Anand Giridharidas's book, "Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World" is an excellent commentary on this state of affairs. He particularly takes on the act of massive charities (Gates, Buffet etc) because the acts by which a few individuals make a lot of money are precisely the ones that have screwed up society so bad. We should not look at philanthropists so kindly.
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by JohnFen on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @10:56AM (#40512622)
Indeed. Doing something good tomorrow doesn't erase the bad you may have done yesterday.
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by Nasrudith on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @12:35PM (#40513861)
That sounds very "leftist" in circular-logic where more money means you are axiomatically automatically the most guilty regardless of level of harm caused. Which means that if you were to become the first trillionare by curing 95% of all forms of cancer then you are clearly history's greatest monster.
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by davidgerard on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @02:02PM (#40514853)
> That sounds very "leftist" in circular-logic

what the

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by Refusing23 on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @04:00AM (#40509577)
i dont think people care where his money ends up when he dies

people probably care more about how he gets that money, and what he spends his life doing

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by croes on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @04:30AM (#40509739)
Sounds like Altman's version of P.Diddy's "I'm sorry"
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by throwaway456456 on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @05:00AM (#40509903)
Whatever man...

> So, the Series B Investors are giving 10% of our shares in this round to the people in the reddit community, and I hope we increase community ownership over time. [1]

[1] https://blog.samaltman.com/reddit

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by zoky on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @05:38AM (#40510133)
What, you didn't click the link to convert useless Internet points into shares?
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by maxehmookau on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @06:05AM (#40510270)
Can we stop allowing the richest billionaires in societies decide who is and isn't deserving of philanthropic funds?

Fair taxation and properly funded services paid for by directly elected governments, please.

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by Nasrudith on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @12:38PM (#40513894)
Alright then so when do we go from it being tax deductible to outright banning private charity as "undemocratic"?
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by maxehmookau on Thursday May 30, 2024 @05:49AM (#40521849)
There's a huge difference between you or I donating a portion of our earnings to charity and reaping the tax benefits or a billionaire donating >50% of their wealth to causes that they decide and the outsized impact that can have.

The difference in the number of zeroes at the end of those figures is enormous and not comparable.

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by belter on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @06:55AM (#40510541)
The Giving Pledge exist for one reason and one reason only. To avoid the discussion of an immediate and real billionaire tax. It's just a tax optimization strategy. Why don't we all defer our taxes with a pledge a 99% tax donation to the IRS...after our deaths?

https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/bill-gates-promised-to-gi... "Bill Gates Promised to Give Away His Wealth. Well, That Was BS":

"When he made the pledge in 2010, his net worth was $53 billion. Ten years later, his net worth is $115 billion. Bill Gates is 64 years old, so at this rate, he'll be worth $250 billion or more by the time he's supposed to have given away at least half his wealth.

Same thing with Warren Buffett, only much worse. In 2010, his net worth was $39 billion; today, his net worth is $82 billion. Buffett is 90 years old, so if he's planning on giving away at least half his wealth, he'd damn better well get crackin'!"

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by kaleidobug on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @07:25AM (#40510734)
Sam Altman and Amber Heard making pledges. Only major difference is in the size of the lie in terms of money /s :)
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by rchaud on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @07:55AM (#40510945)
> "While there is no enforcement in place to ensure pledge members follow through on their promise, the Giving Pledge educates them on ways they can make their donation, which is seen as “public, moral commitment."

How hard is it for the ultra-rich to simply cut a check every year to a charitable organization they didn't invent as a tax vehicle, at a time of incredible suffering globally through conflict or natural disasters?

Medecins Sans Frontieres, World Vision, the Red Cross --- all these orgs engaged in active disaster responses are almost entirely funded by regular people like you and me making a charitable donation.

Why do the rich need this dog and pony show?

Regular Americans on regular salaries manage to scrounge up a few bucks each year to give to food banks, or help provide kids with school supplies, or other forms of mutual aid . They don't have articles written about them.

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by abenga on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @01:10PM (#40514326)
> Why do the rich need this dog and pony show?

Because alleviating suffering is not the goal. Reputation laundering, giving friends and family cushy sinecures, optimizing tax liability, and placating the masses and governments are the goals.

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by rchaud on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @08:54PM (#40518955)
Maybe I'm overly nostalgic, but the reputation laundering in years past didn't seem to preclude significant financial gifts to things the general public benefited from, such as scholarships, public parks and libraries. Bill Gates for his part has done a lot to prevent the spread of infectious disease for the most vulnerable around the world.

Something definitely seems to have changed since those days. Warren Buffett is one of the top 5 most influential men on earth and does nothing besides spout folksy platitudes about how "it's not right" that his secretary pays a bigger percentage of her income on tax than he does. Even Jeff Bezos' divorce was a blessing in some ways as his ex-wife committed billions to charities that Bezos himself would not. The less said about Musk taunting the United Nations Food Programme's ask for $6bn, the better.

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by Havoc on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @07:56AM (#40510959)
A real charity or American style tax shelter “my own charity”?
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by jasonvorhe on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @07:58AM (#40510984)
pledges =! "Actually had over money somewhere"
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by leoh on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @08:17AM (#40511122)
Did anyone briefly accidentally misread Sam Altman as SBF?
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by tanseydavid on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @11:27AM (#40513009)
I make this mistake repeatedly and did so in this case too.

My mind went to envisioning SBF giving little envelopes with IOUs in them to his fellow prisoners.

Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by zoky on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @09:52AM (#40512024)
Yeah, ok, give me a call when that wealth has actually been put to good use, not when Sam “Not Even Sorry For Sexually Abusing My Sister” Altman claims it might possibly be in the future.
Re:Sam Altman just vowed to donate most of his wealth throug... by dataflow on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @12:13PM (#40513566)
Scam? WHEN is he committing to give half of his wealth away, and how much of it is he even committing to owning by the time he gives that fraction away? Half a century from now when he might be on his deathbed? When the world might be past the point of no return on several axes?

Every time I've looked at the "Giving Pledge", it's looked like a publicity stunt with zero actual commitment or effect on the pledger during most of if not their entire life. It seems to require the pledger to give up absolutely nothing until they're (near-?)dead. It's nice that they're only passing only HALF their wealth to their next of kin, I guess, but how is that going to help anybody alive right now?

Heck, what's to prevent them from spending (or transferring!) a massive chunk of their wealth during their lifetime so they have hardly anything left to give at the end?

Also, where is the actual text of the pledge? I can't find it. If it's such an awesome thing why is the text so hard to find?

And on top of this, don't forget that this is just days after his public image was tarnished, and he's trying to clean it up. Of course he would do that in a way that doesn't actually commit him to anything that would negatively impact him in the foreseeable future...