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Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bluetidepro on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:39AM (#40211399)
The key to make Reddit still an amazing resource is finding niche subreddits that fit your interests. The very broad subreddits like funny, news, pics, politics (where this is likely from), etc. etc. are all just full of spam, and trash like this. They have been for YEARS now. However, say you dive into a subreddit for a specific video game you like, it's going to be full of relevant content with very little spam. Or if anything, the type of spam is just reposting content which still may even be new for you. Reddit is not dying, just the giant stadium size subreddits are trash. I visit video game subreddits for games I actively play almost daily and they are all incredibly useful and interesting.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by Retr0id on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:50AM (#40211570)
I know a couple of people who moderate niche-but-active subreddits, and they're still inundated with spam. The only real difference is that they can stay on top of it, for the most part. So yeah, the niche subreddits are still alive, but I think they're struggling.

One of them closed to non-approved submitters, and now they get AI-generated requests for account approval.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by btreecat on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:14AM (#40211907)
This is exactly why I gave up moderation of a sub that was around 100k members. It just was so much spam and noise and poor tooling to deal with it all.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by lelanthran on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:50AM (#40211579)
> Reddit is not dying, just the giant stadium size subreddits are trash.

From a user's PoV, this is at worst a good thing and at best completely irrelevant.

I never go to the large subreddits anyway (political, news, pics, etc), so whether or not they are around, or around and filled with LLM trash is completely irrelevant to me.

OTOH, the subreddits I do visit are alive and well and show no signs of being less valuable to me than before.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by nomilk on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:47AM (#40211511)
I know this is (almost hopelessly) subjective, but can you (or others) recommend a few? (I'm a reddit newb and my feed resembles a mainstream news website).
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by ramcle on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:03AM (#40211768)
Check out DepthHub: https://www.reddit.com/user/Lapper/m/depthhub/ It's a "multireddit", an amalgamation of multiple subreddits, a feature that Reddit as a company no longer seems to care about. From the description: "DepthHub gathers the best in-depth submissions and discussion on Reddit. You can use the DepthHub as an alternative front page with high quality discussion and inquiry. " I used to visit it pretty much every day, back when third-party apps were allowed.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by nineplay on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:03AM (#40211771)
/r/AskHistorians is a national treasure. Don't trust any 'historical' information from any other subreddit.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by psunavy03 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @12:19PM (#40212738)
That sub is right on the borderline of "good moderation" and "overpowered mods huffing their own farts."
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bun_terminator on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @01:54PM (#40213902)
And it's my goto example of censorship of comical proportions. A space that heavily "moderated" should never be trusted
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by karmakurtisaani on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @02:22PM (#40214331)
Hard disagree. Strict and heavy moderation is the only way to keep any discussion informative. It requires competent moderators, and there will be bad calls by the mods, but overall the alternatives are far worse.

The strictest moderation there is can be found in high quality academic publishing. You are allowed to publish only if what you say has high value, and is said in the proper way. Can't get your Flat Earth Quarterly published in Nature, and we're all better for it.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by psunavy03 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @01:58PM (#40213990)
Their intention is good trying to keep out blatant spam and misinformation. Being confidently incorrect is basically a running joke on the rest of Reddit. But they could be about 75 percent as draconian as they are and still be fine.

That said, I'd be careful saying the sub can't be "trusted." It's annoying but when you do get an answer it's generally sourced and credible. As opposed to the unadulterated bullshit I've seen on the rest of the site regarding basically anything I have professional experience and/or formal training in.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by 65 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:19AM (#40211971)
I like /r/ExperiencedDevs, it's usually pretty good.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by SlowRobotAhead on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:50AM (#40212427)
What? You don't like getting strongly opinionated advice from kids that haven't even gotten their first internship yet?

I swear some of the things I've been downvoted for in r/embedded is just out of control nuts.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by nunez on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @12:32PM (#40212892)
It used to be better before the folks from /r/cscareerquestions overwhelmed it
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by the_snooze on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:53AM (#40211621)
If you're a college sports fan, /r/cfb, /r/collegebasketball, and /r/collegebaseball are excellent. The first two are large subreddits, but their mods absolutely stay on top of things. Not just clearing out spam and off-topic discussion, but also posting "official" game threads and post-game summaries so you don't have dozens of "Auburn defeats Alabama 34-28" posts clogging up the front page.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by browningstreet on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:02AM (#40211756)
Also r/AskHistorians

EDIT: Also, the way I make Reddit useful to me is I change the default sorting for subreddits from Hot to Top > Monthly, and also disable content recommendations. It'll shows less content and Reddit will sometimes say "No more content right now", which is great.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bluetidepro on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:54AM (#40211638)
I don't use reddit for any real news, I just use it for hobbies/interests. Using reddit for news is a terrible idea for all the content farming and spam trash that this post is talking about. That would be like getting your news from just random people shouting on the side of the street.

So the hobbies/games I'm currently playing are subreddits I subscribe to and actively browse. Games like Anno 1800, Cities Skylines, and Manor Lords. All 3 have very active and passionate community members that are constantly posting high quality content around inspiration for builds, tips and tricks, community update news, patch discussions, mods, etc. etc.

If you want more silly subreddits not related to hobbies, it depends on what your humor is. Here is a wide range of options: r/AnimalsBeingBros, r/ActLikeYouBelong, r/softwaregore, r/raspberry_pi, r/lockpicking, r/FellowKids, r/dogswithjobs, r/BirdsArentReal, r/BreadStapledToTrees - subreddits that are related around hobbies or niche humor will make you love reddit.

Again, tl;dr, reddit is not the place for real life news. If you don't use it for that, you'll find yourself enjoying the website a ton more.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by ehaughee on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:01AM (#40211743)
This will definitely be subjective and I highly recommend using the subreddit search to find topics you enjoy, BUT here are a few of mine:

r/billiards r/boots r/frugalmalefashion (arguably small nowadays) r/hiphopheads r/mtb r/self hosted r/sffpc

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bonestamp2 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @12:24PM (#40212781)
For the reddit and fashion newbs, I'll add r/malefashionadvice too... I mean, even if you never buy any of the expensive stuff on there, it's good just to browse the outfits people put together to get ideas about the types of things you can buy, colors, materials, accessories and how they can go together.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by spywaregorilla on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:04AM (#40211786)
Don't go to reddit for the sake of going to reddit. If you don't have a specific content area that you want to engage with, just getting involved in the reddit universe is going to be a bad experience.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by lelanthran on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:52AM (#40211607)
I visit /r/programming, /r/gamedev, /r/projectcar and a few others (woodworking, home building, short scifi stories)
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by rvba on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:52AM (#40211612)
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bonestamp2 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @12:43PM (#40213048)
What things are you passionate about or at least interested in? There is likely a subreddit for each one.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by avgDev on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:48AM (#40212389)
I moderate a niche subreddit, we were focused on information backed by science. The mod team is doctors, chemists, and devs. However, as we are growing we are noticing a lot of new people are spreading myths and since our average user is becoming dumber wrong opinions often end up at the top.

This is what made me realize that reddit is actually an awful platform for information, while there is a lot of good stuff there the average user is NOT educated, and the average users outnumber the individuals educated in a particular subject.

I have been downvoted to hell many times even though my information was backed by multiple studies and factual.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by rospaya on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:51AM (#40211599)
Why would I dedicate my time to a subreddit that might vanish overnight or might get taken over by the admins? Way back, subreddits were independent forums, and now they're one protest away from being kidnapped.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by dpkirchner on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @12:45PM (#40213067)
Forums come, forums go, there are no guarantees any site will stay up indefinitely. IMO that fact alone shouldn't stop you from participating.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bluetidepro on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:55AM (#40211666)
I have never seen a subreddit for a game/hobby that I've subscribed to vanish overnight. In all my 13+ YEARS on reddit.

EDIT: "Vanish" forever. Yes, there have been protests and black outs, but everything I have ever subscribed to did come back.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by MOARDONGZPLZ on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:06AM (#40211797)
A bunch of subreddit admins took their ball and went home because they didn’t agree with site changes. This is practically the same thing. There was a whole website to track it.

https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bluetidepro on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:10AM (#40211851)
Right, but they pretty much all came back. I'm not saying some don't do the blackout for protests, but none I have ever subscribed to have gone away 100% forever.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bonestamp2 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @12:42PM (#40213039)
They all came back because the admins allowed anyone to volunteer to overtake them. So, either the existing mods changed their minds to remain at the wheel of a subject they're passionate about, or they were replaced with new mods.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by MOARDONGZPLZ on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:21AM (#40211996)
That’s different than your initial statement that none have vanished overnight. Hundreds or thousands vanished overnight. Many returned, but it was very unclear whether they ever would. Thank goodness the Reddit admins stepped in and basically forced lots of them to come back. Even major ones like r/video are still gone.

In fact, the biggest losers were the users of the small, niche subreddits that the admins couldn’t strongarm into returning.

Your statements are really baffling to me.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bluetidepro on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:23AM (#40212025)
That's fair. That was just poor phrasing on my part. I meant "forever" vanish.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bonestamp2 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @12:37PM (#40212972)
I moderated one subreddit that was loved by users. It wasn't about anything that is illegal or controversial. The controversy came not from the content, but from how we were running the community -- we were breaking a reddit rule that was in place to prevent spam. I understand why they had that rule and I agree that it probably makes sense for most subreddits, but like any blanket rule: it doesn't perfectly fit every scenario. So, we had our own method of preventing spam and it worked.

The admins didn't care that we had a thriving community, no spam, and they banned the subreddit. They also blocked anyone from ever creating a replacement with the same name (still to this day). So, it definitely does happen. I'm keeping it vague here to maintain my anonymity.

Side note, reddit dropped that rule about 2 years ago so I suppose we could start one up again, but I've lost interest in that topic.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by theChaparral on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:56AM (#40211681)
I really agree. I think the key to your key is you have to actively seek out media that interests you. Don't just be a passive consumer of it.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by asicsp on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:01AM (#40211745)
I'm part of a few book subreddits and I definitely enjoy the reviews and discussions there. My TBR list is in thousands thanks to them...
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by cableshaft on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:08AM (#40211826)
r/boardgames is pretty good, if you're into board games.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bigstrat2003 on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @12:01PM (#40212555)
/r/boardgames would be good, if they didn't go on rants about politics every so often. I couldn't take it any more after a while. I'm trying to read about board games to enjoy myself, not to be reminded of life's problems.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by nolok on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:43AM (#40211459)
I mean, it's pretty much where half of "smaller forums" went. The other half being on discord.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by GolfPopper on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:49AM (#40211545)
Or still being quietly run somewhere on BBCode.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by karma_pharmer on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:30AM (#40212133)
Ssssshhhh!!!!!!

Those are the best ones; stop telling everybody about it or they'll get flooded with losers from that orange site I keep hearing about.

Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by GolfPopper on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:26PM (#40219175)
You'll note I'm not saying which ones or where they are. ;-)
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by RicoElectrico on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:44AM (#40211481)
And the third half on Facebook groups.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by ziddoap on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:50AM (#40211558)
And the fourth half still on their own domains, on some old vBulletin board or something (thinking of car forums mainly, like NASIOC).
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by bingleboy on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @10:47AM (#40211515)
That's why some people spend their entire lives on non-english speaking forums.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by sixothree on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @11:04AM (#40211777)
As much as I dislike reddit, Facebook groups are awful to use. The interface is such a huge turnoff.
Re:Reddit is full of bots: thread reposted comment by commen... by floren on Tuesday April 30, 2024 @02:06PM (#40214104)
There's still just so much fucking garbage though. Yesterday I was wondering if I ought to switch to a flipphone so my son doesn't see me playing on my smartphone so much, so I headed over to /r/dumbphones to try and get a feel for what's currently a good option. I figured I'd look through the top posts of the last month to find good discussion. Instead, the top post is some dipshit meme, and all but 1 or 2 of the first 25 posts are "my EDC as an 18/f/cali", just pictures of the contents of their pockets!

Because there's no way to have "the EDC thread" or the "post pics of your phone" thread, this low-effort shit fills the subreddit.