Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after mid-air incident

Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by H8crilA on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:31AM (#39666771)

This. Clear Air Turbulence can strike at any time, and you - as in your body - can get seriously damaged even with moderate turbulence. Few people have ever seen severe or extreme turbulence, including the flight crews, but that can happen as well.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by loceng on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:13AM (#39667166)

When I was 5 or 6 years old I was flying-sitting with my dad, as passengers, though he was an airline pilot, when we hit a pocket of "dead" air. Meals and drinks were just served. For what was at least 3-5 seconds all of the meal trays floated up, hovered and then thankfully relatively gently settled back down. My dad estimated we dropped 200 feet or so.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by mschuster91 on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:54AM (#39667605)

You've, technically, eaten food that was at zero gravity once for a short period of time.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by ceejayoz on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:00AM (#39667664)

Free-fall isn't zero-gravity, and anyone who observes the five-second rule has had a similar experience.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by leoedin on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:02AM (#39668356)

But by that argument neither is floating around in the ISS - you're still being accelerated by gravity, you're just in the fortunate position that you have enough velocity not to hit the earth.

If the colloquial term "zero gravity" applies to someone in the ISS, then it also applies to someone in a suddenly dropping aircraft.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by loceng on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:13AM (#39667804)

If you're wanting to be so perfectionistic, five-second rule experiences is an apples to oranges comparison.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by colordrops on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:12AM (#39667797)

Yes it is, didn't Einstein say that gravity and acceleration are indistinguishable

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by someguyihope on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:20AM (#39667872)

"Zero-g" is different to "zero gravity". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by colordrops on Monday March 11, 2024 @01:04PM (#39670709)

The whole microgravity thing is pedantic, yes tidal forces exist, but at human scales they are not detectable.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by ceejayoz on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:20AM (#39667879)

In free-fall, the object is primarily being accelerated by gravity.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by colordrops on Monday March 11, 2024 @01:03PM (#39670692)

Yes but this is indistinguishable from the perspective of the falling object.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by mschuster91 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:49AM (#39668199)

Relatively to the aircraft, the food was zero gravity though?

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by loceng on Monday March 11, 2024 @01:36PM (#39671101)

https://www.gozerog.com/

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by loceng on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:00AM (#39667660)

Hehe. Thanks for that perspective.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by MichaelZuo on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:50PM (#39670524)

Pockets of ‘dead’ air are like the rogue waves of the aviation world. Rare but still happens once every few years.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by lm28469 on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:23AM (#39667269)

Probably the same reason people don't use seatbelts in buses, I'm very often the only one wearing a seatbelt when I travel by bus

I've seen aftermath videos and photos, I'm not taking my chances

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by enlyth on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:54AM (#39667599)

Interesting, I've never seen a bus with seat belts

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by lm28469 on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:20AM (#39668596)

Not in city buses, but flixbuses, school buses, &c.|

These: https://www.usabuscharter.com/uploads/4/3/6/1/43615417/setra...

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by Tor3 on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:22AM (#39668627)

In my town only the intercity ones used to have them, but these days all the city buses have them too. I don't mind using the seatbelt, but their design isn't optimal - they're hard to put on, particularly if you're wearing a large jacket. A lot of fumbling is required.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by flohofwoe on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:26AM (#39667945)

In Germany at least it depends on the type of bus. Long distance / travel busses (Google translates it to "coach") are required to have seatbelts, regular "city busses" don't.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by rsynnott on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:10AM (#39668443)

As a general rule, buses that go on motorways (ie intercity, mostly) tend to have them; others usually don't.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by Aardwolf on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:21AM (#39667895)

The first few rows of seats sometimes have those, but not all the rows after that

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by beAbU on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:49AM (#39666924)

I was under the impression that seatbelts are basically mandatory at all times. On my recent turkish airlines flight the safety video requested you put it on and leave it on, ans the staff would come by and ask you to put your seatbelt on, even when theres no turbulence.

The "seat belt" indicator light should actually be changed to "dont get up and walk around"

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by HL33tibCe7 on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:09AM (#39667123)

On the half dozen (European) airlines I’ve flown, it’s always been “seatbelts are recommended at all times”. Never a requirement.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by lostlogin on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:36AM (#39667399)

Surely required on takeoff/landing?

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by millebe on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:23AM (#39667918)

14 CFR 121.311(b)

Except as provided in this paragraph, each person on board an airplane operated under this part shall occupy an approved seat or berth with a separate safety belt properly secured about him or her during movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/part-121/section-121.3...

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by zerkten on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:03AM (#39667697)

Absolutely at takeoff, but the emphasis is often missing for the remainder of your time onboard. It's noticeable when crew add extra reminders.

I've never looked for stats on these incidents involving clear air turbulence. The impression I got as a European was that this was a transatlantic and transpacific problem. It's obviously not, but those were the incidents reported on.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by Tor3 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:27AM (#39667960)

There are occasionally "air holes" happening near my local airport. A friend onboard a particularly severe one told me that the captain said that they'd "fallen" some 160 meters. I also have another friend who, a long time ago, didn't use the seatbelt on a domestic flight - sudden turbulence made him hit his head and injure his neck badly. That's very dangerous. Personally the "worst" I've seen was just enough to break wine bottles in the overhead in front of me. Flight attendants gave out blankets for all of us nearby, as protection for dripping wine..

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by lostlogin on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:17AM (#39668545)

Trans Tasman too now.

According to the below, long haul flights get it more, due to the altitude they fly at.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear-air_turbulence

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by jajko on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:34AM (#39668031)

Its expected that crew will light seat belt signs when they asses its required. Its literal on/off or yes/no, lets not add some 3rd state to it that will confuse people.

This of course doesn't mean one shouldn't wear it as often as possible, but ie with small kids thats nigh impossible, or for some folks on 10 hour flights (I still used to put it on me when I slept, but mainly to not be woken up by crew when they switch it on and check everybody).

Very similar topic is bus seat belts. All intercity buses (at least in Europe) have them, nobody clips in (apart from driver). I think at this point everybody knows about some horrible bus tragedy which would be a set of minor scratches if all folks had seat belts on. Yet our subconsciousness keeps changing perceived risks and consequences to keep us happy/content instead of worried about everything all the time (makes some sense, cluttered mind ain't best performing in life & death scenarios of bygone era).

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by beAbU on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:44AM (#39668150)

Well, it may be recommended, but if the attendants constantly nag you to put them on, then that's the same as required, no?

Only the obnoxiously hard headed folks would argue back and go "since it's a recommendation and not a requirement I will not sit with my seatbelt on, and there's nothing you can do about it."

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by Gigachad on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:44PM (#39674500)

I’ve never seen anyone be nagged over seat belts mid flight. The messaging from Australian airlines at least is very much that you are free to take your seatbelt off but that it’s suggested to keep it on while seated.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by infecto on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:35AM (#39666802)

Latam is Chilean. I am not as well traveled in all SA countries but the exposure I have had suggested that seatbelts in cars are fairly optional still, I suspect on a plane you have less incentive.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by ztetranz on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:45AM (#39666890)

They're optional for adults in cars here in New Hampshire where the official state motto is "Live free or die".

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by stpe on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:54AM (#39666971)

Should it not be ”Live free and die” then?

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by AlexandrB on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:54AM (#39666965)

NH doesn't get enough credit for how weird it is. Between the state motto, the lack of sales or income tax, and stuff like this seatbelt rule it's like we're talking about a totally different country.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by notpeter on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:39AM (#39667440)

I also like their Automated License Plate Reader (ALPR) record retention period (3 minutes):

> Records of number plates read by each LPR shall not be recorded or transmitted anywhere and shall be purged from the system within 3 minutes of their capture in such a manner that they are destroyed and are not recoverable, unless an alarm resulted in an arrest, a citation, or protective custody, or identified a vehicle that was the subject of a missing person or wanted broadcast [...]

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-hampshire/2022/title-xxi/ti...

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by pc86 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:23AM (#39667914)

This seems absolutely reasonable. Keep the data about people who have committed or you can reasonably suspect might be committing a crime, get rid of the identifiable information for law-abiding citizens and maybe keep the aggregated metadata.

This should be the standard IMO.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by ztetranz on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:43AM (#39667474)

The other thing about cars in NH is that insurance is optional. I'm not sure what happens if someone legally driving in NH without liability insurance drives over the border into a neighboring state. I asked a lawyer friend once and he mumbled something about interstate commerce making it legal. I'm not how that debate would go when stopped by a cop in MA and asked to show proof of insurance.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by bloomingeek on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:24AM (#39667924)

In my state, the arm pit of America, OKLA, auto insurance is mandatory. However, a certain amount of my fellow citizens treat it as optional.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by rsynnott on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:12AM (#39668463)

> I'm not sure what happens if someone legally driving in NH without liability insurance

... Wait, you don't need _liability insurance_?!

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by tyingq on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:59AM (#39669043)

"New Hampshire motor vehicle laws do not require you to carry auto insurance, but you must be able to demonstrate that you are able to provide sufficient funds to meet New Hampshire motor vehicle financial responsibility requirements in the event of an at-fault accident."

https://www.nh.gov/insurance/consumers/documents/nh_auto_gui...

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by tyingq on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:45AM (#39667500)

It's also often incorrectly thought of as heavily democrat or liberal, perhaps due to association with neighbors like Massachusetts and Vermont. It's somewhat true, but the balance is much closer to 50/50 than those neighbors. And the largest newspaper is very Republican centric.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by ztetranz on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:52AM (#39667574)

If it wasn't for our former governor John Sununu, (father of the current one), the US response to climate change might have been quite different.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by rsynnott on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:06AM (#39668403)

Or, y'know, both, in this case.

(Huh; I had no idea there was anywhere left in the developed world where they weren't mandatory.)

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by Staple_Diet on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:57AM (#39667007)

While there was most definitely South Americans on that journey, having made that flight myself I can honestly say it would have been well over 50% Aussies on their way to NZ, Santiago, Buenos Aires etc.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by infecto on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:43AM (#39667472)

Certainly but I am not suggesting its entirely on the passengers but the culture of safety in a given region. In the US you have a before flight belt check and sometimes mentions during flight. In a lot of other countries I notice that flights are not as concerned about those belt checks.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by alamortsubite on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:47AM (#39666908)

In BsAs it's common to hop in a cab and find, as a courtesy, that they've tucked the safety belts in-between the seat cushions so you have a comfortable ride.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by MandieD on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:24AM (#39667281)

Yeah, we tried (and failed) to dig out the buried cab seatbelts in Lima and Cusco.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by XzAeRosho on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:55AM (#39667613)

I'm from Chile and seatbelt culture is very strong and policed.

Most people in the backseats are very used to use their seatbelts, even more so in the front.

Intercity buses also have mandatory seatbelts.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by diego_sandoval on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @01:06AM (#39676367)

I'm also from Chile, I travel intercity pretty often, and most times, I'm the only person on the bus that I see wearing a seatbelt.

It's technically mandatory, but I've traveled like 12 times in the last year, and only twice the assistant has done his nag-round checking that passengers are wearing their seatbelts.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by qwertox on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:00AM (#39667037)

I think the seatbelt-sign is outdated. Somehow it should be made clear that if a sign is on, it is not allowed to stand up and move around, and the general rule is that the seatbelt must be locked while sitting.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by chrisweekly on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:07AM (#39667111)

In my 5 decades of flying regularly (US-based flights), this is made crystal clear by flight attendants and repeated PA announcements.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by gomox on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:10AM (#39667772)

It needs to be safe and clear by design, not confusing to the point where systematic PA announcements are needed to clarify the fact that "seat belt sign is off" actually means "you should wear your seatbelt".

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by Tor3 on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:25AM (#39668659)

Nowadays what they announce on European and Europe-Asian flights (the ones I have any recent experience with) is that, when the seat belt sign is turned off there's always an immediate announcement which says something like "The captain has now switched off the seat belt sign, however it is recommended to use the seat belt whenever seated".

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by pc86 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:18AM (#39667859)

And maybe on new planes they'll change the iconography (which would probably require FAA rules to be rewritten), but let's not downplay the role of just having common sense.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by benjaminwootton on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:50AM (#39666933)

It definitely seems like the wise thing to do. There are enough reports of these events even if your risk of being caught up in one is low.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by koolba on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:29AM (#39666755)

After the recent incidents, I’d love to see zip line style safety lines in planes. When you get up to use the lavatory, you’d connect your carabiner to the aisle ceiling and floor lines to keep you level in case of a sudden movement.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by HL33tibCe7 on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:11AM (#39667137)

This idea wouldn’t actually solve most of the biggest problems during turbulence, which is people hitting their heads on the ceiling, and people getting hit by luggage falling out of the overhead storage.

I think having a cable flying around would actually be dangerous in itself. Wouldn’t want to get it caught around your neck…

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by koolba on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:27AM (#39667310)

> This idea wouldn’t actually solve most of the biggest problems during turbulence, which is people hitting their heads on the ceiling, …

It’s two cable lines, one on the ceiling and one on the floor. Each would be separately attached to the passengers harness so the freedom of movement is only up and down, limited to the amount of slack in the short length that connects the passenger to the plane.

> … and people getting hit by luggage falling out of the overhead storage.

We can give everyone a hard hat too.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by j-a-a-p on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:44AM (#39668156)

You will at least not get sucked out when a door pops open again.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by InitialLastName on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:20AM (#39668584)

Not to mention the cables being a tripping hazard in the (far more common) ingress and egress situations.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by beAbU on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:51AM (#39666941)

I think you can forget about using the loo succesfully if you can't even walk down the aisle without incident...

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by bloomingeek on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:18AM (#39667857)

This is a great point, I've often wondered why there are no seat belts on airplane toilets. Yes, there would be many obstacles to overcome (please, no course jokes) but there have been several times when I was using the facilities on a plane and turbulence ensued and I almost panicked thinking about all the possible bad things that could happen.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by odiroot on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:58AM (#39668312)

Now imagine your neck catching this zipline.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by progbits on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:41AM (#39666862)

> What I don't get is why people are not using seatbelts.

The terrible UX doesn't help. There is a seatbelt icon on the sign, they announce it as "fasten seatbelt sign", which makes it sound like when it is off you don't have to have it fastened. But it really should be "remain seated" sign.

Also some people don't wear seatbelts in cars as some idiotic macho thing. I assume there is no helping those.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by mianos on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:52AM (#39666947)

It's my understanding this was mid flight and not a situation where the seatbelt sign was lit. I believe the original commenter is suggesting that people wear their seatbelt at all times, if possible, seatbelt sign lit, or not. (Which, as once a very frequent flyer, I do, others don't like to if they don't have to).

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by progbits on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:56AM (#39666996)

Yes I have it fastened all the time too.

My point was the fact the "fasten seatbelt sign" was not lit in the middle of the flight makes people think it is OK to not have it fastened. Which isn't true.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by mianos on Monday March 11, 2024 @04:15PM (#39672756)

Yes, maybe. I was on an international flight last week and they said, over the intercom, that they suggest you keep your seatbelts fastened all the time where possible.

Maybe they should play some in flight video of one of these events.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by pc86 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:14AM (#39667811)

Every single flight I've ever been on except LATAM says to keep your seatbelt fastened when seated even when the seatbelt sign is off. UX isn't the issue, people ignoring common sense things like "maybe my seatbelt should be on when I'm flying through the air at 500mph" is.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by ta1243 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:56AM (#39668296)

There are also cases when you should not be wearing a seatbelt -- if you have just got on a plane and it's still being refilled the seatbelt sign is off and sometimes the crew will tell you not to put your seatbelt on while it's being refilled.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by thelastparadise on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:26AM (#39666735)

My god could you imagine if this happened when you were in the bathroom?

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by wjnc on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:31AM (#39666773)

I'm a worrier about things like these. I always imagined that's why the roof in the bathroom is lower and curved. A lot less room for gaining vertical speed. So you'd be temporarily stuck to the ceiling and perhaps a bit dirtied, but less hurt than getting double struck by first the lockers and then the higher ceiling in the aisle.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by chrischen on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:59AM (#39667024)

I think the parent is more worried about the dirtied aspect.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by yodon on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:55PM (#39670597)

The roof in an airplane bathroom is lower and curved because that is the shape of the airplane.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by lm28469 on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:25AM (#39667289)

It's not the worst place actually, you can't pick up too much momentum since the cabin is so small

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by RandomBacon on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:38AM (#39667414)

They should install a gravity switch. A simply contact that uses gravity to either remain normally-open or normally-closed, and then when the opposite is true, automatically flush.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by InitialLastName on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:18AM (#39668559)

Open question: to what extent does the flush mechanism in airplane toilets rely on the presence of gravity?

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by account42 on Monday March 11, 2024 @11:44AM (#39669597)

It quire clearly uses a pressure differential to quickly suck your shit out of the bowl. I doubt gravity makes much of a difference.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by rsynnott on Monday March 11, 2024 @07:54AM (#39666962)

They have signs showing when you need to wear seatbelts, so when the seatbelt light goes out, well, what are people _supposed_ to think?

I have noticed that it does seem to have gotten more common to just leave them on for the duration of the flight, in the last couple of decades.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by jgalt212 on Monday March 11, 2024 @08:33AM (#39667374)

What I don't get is why they serve hot coffee on planes with these ever present risks.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by ThePowerOfFuet on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:16AM (#39667834)

The coffee is generally not hot enough to cause burns, especially given that you will be drinking it immediately upon serving.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by jgalt212 on Monday March 11, 2024 @01:44PM (#39671179)

That hasn't been my experience. I mean it's not McDonald's hot, but it's hot enough to cause damaage.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by numpad0 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:32AM (#39668017)

I wear masks in public and I use seatbelts on airplanes, but that's not the shortest path to the boss ape of the town status, and I would guess a lot of people care more about that than their own life.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by ta1243 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:53AM (#39668244)

Bathroom, stretching legs, getting something from overhead locker, and of course the cabin crew. I could see at least 20 people at a given time doing one of those things.

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Re:Latam Airlines SYD to AKL flight: 50 people treated after... by dreamcompiler on Monday March 11, 2024 @04:37PM (#39672967)

Same here, but most passengers don't understand the issue. They think turbulence means "a bumpy flight" when it really means "you will -- without warning -- be slammed against the ceiling and then against the floor, and then against the ceiling again for good measure."

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