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Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by haunter on Friday November 17, 2023 @01:51PM (#38308139)
It's also free until Monday (as in free to get, not just limited free play) https://store.steampowered.com/app/70/HalfLife/
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by ta1243 on Friday November 17, 2023 @02:14PM (#38308523)
Interesting. I do have a steam account, haven't used it for a long time, it doesn't seem to be in my password manager

So I went to reset my password, but got thwarted by the captcha. To email me a password reset link.

I think Ill just torrent it.

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by rPlayer6554 on Friday November 17, 2023 @02:19PM (#38308618)
Why not make a new account? Valve is giving this out for free, partially to get people to use their program more. Why not support them in that small way at least?
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by k12sosse on Friday November 17, 2023 @02:42PM (#38309019)
You're trying to reason with a person who can't even complete a captcha.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by codetrotter on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:18PM (#38309451)
Captchas can be an endless hellhole if you are on a network that the captcha provider happens to dislike. No fault of your own.

I’ve had situations in the past where I tried 10-20 times to complete captcha and it just kept throwing one after the other at me. Whereas when I am at home and not using VPN I always complete every captcha in like one or two attempts.

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by miramba on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:36PM (#38309750)
It appears that the containment system has completely failed.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by timhwang21 on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:13PM (#38309371)
They may be on VPN. Google recaptcha has dynamic risk-based friction and is prone to serving effectively impossible challenges to users on VPN.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by jorvi on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:12PM (#38309348)
In his defense, the best way to solve a captcha is by pretending you are partially blind. If you actually select all the relevant squares, Google just says “nope lol go again!”.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by OnionBlender on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:40PM (#38309869)
My theory is that, if the real goal of the captcha is for AI training then you would want to get rid of the people that were close but not quite right (let them proceed) . If the user was 100% correct on the first test, you'd probably want to give them more tests.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by swasheck on Friday November 17, 2023 @05:18PM (#38311246)
the captcha on https://archive.ph is an endless loop of clicking the "I'm not a robot" reCAPTCHA checkbox for me. sometimes i'm lucky enough to get to the "click all boxes that have a bus" and i never know if the one tile that has a fraction of the side mirror counts as being a bus or not. sometimes i guess correctly, and sometimes i find myself in another endless loop of identifying objects. i suspect it's a nanny service on my work machine because if i fire up a windows sandbox instance and archive the site there, i can sometimes get some luck.

it's a stiff price to pay for getting around the data science medium articles that require a sign up, and then an app, and then a subscription.

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by vlovich123 on Friday November 17, 2023 @07:12PM (#38312729)
That’s usually because you’re using Cloudflare’s DNS, either explicitly or implicitly via Apple private relay (long saga you can easily search for)
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by swasheck on Friday November 17, 2023 @10:15PM (#38314588)
interesting. i found stuff on WARP and VPN but i’m not using that - just 1.1.1.1 on my router (and you do mention DNS). thanks for the tip.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by squeaky-clean on Friday November 17, 2023 @09:20PM (#38314182)
Steam has had a widely reported issue with the captcha on the password reset page for over a year now.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by ta1243 on Friday November 17, 2023 @02:54PM (#38309103)
Presumably the same captcha nonsense.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by rPlayer6554 on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:12PM (#38309347)
Is it ok to steal from a liquor store because they require a license shown to buy it and for some reason you can't get yours?
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by messe on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:31PM (#38309645)
I’d download a car, if that’s what you’re asking.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by crooked-v on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:44PM (#38312396)
This is more like them requiring a license, but then also refusing to actually check yours.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by squeaky-clean on Friday November 17, 2023 @09:19PM (#38314170)
If the liquor store is also the DMV that approves licenses and they've been closed for over a year, yeah.

It's also a free giveaway so it's more like grabbing some of the free tasting samples without approval.

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by crtasm on Friday November 17, 2023 @09:40PM (#38314301)
It's not stealing, please stop repeating this nonsensical comparison.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by akoboldfrying on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:37AM (#38318327)
Just like if I watch you key in your PIN at an ATM, I'm not stealing your PIN. You can still use your PIN, same as before!
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by crtasm on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:21PM (#38326690)
My PIN is 3414, copy it as much as you like.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by ta1243 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:31AM (#38333546)
Indeed.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by account42 on Monday November 20, 2023 @05:04AM (#38345747)
Copyright infringement is not theft.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by andygeorge on Friday November 17, 2023 @02:58PM (#38309139)
did an ai write this
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by illumanaughty on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:44PM (#38309960)
I'd assume AI would come across as more intelligent.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by bdlowery on Friday November 17, 2023 @02:59PM (#38309156)
I don’t think you’re gonna make it my guy
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by lapetitejort on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:06PM (#38309268)
Out of curiosity, why wait until just now to torrent it?
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by ta1243 on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:11PM (#38309340)
I'm not really a game person. The point is that getting things the right way should be a better experience then going to piratebay.

Nonsense like captchas only hurt legitimate users, and when those captchas are asking you time and time again it's simply not worthwhile. Had I wanted to actually spend good money on a game they would have lost a sale, and for what -- to stop a robot asking for a password reset email to an existing account?

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by illumanaughty on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:41PM (#38309893)
Steam is a perfectly fine experience and captchas are the universal standard these days. They lost someone who's 'not really a game person' and wasn't willing to fill in a captcha for a free game, I don't think they're too worried about lost revenue. I highly doubt tracking down and downloading a legit version of the updated Half-Life from a torrent site is an easier option, but you do you.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by account42 on Monday November 20, 2023 @05:11AM (#38345819)
Steam is a ... somwehat tolerable experience. The client is extremely bloated for its primary function (installing and launching games) and this is only getting worse.

Steam is also dropping support for older operating systems - ones that you originally used to buy your games. That is also NOT perfectly fine.

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by px1999 on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:46PM (#38310015)
But it's free and you didn't really answer the question.

Were you looking for a soapbox to stand on?

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by Sohcahtoa82 on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:38PM (#38309804)
> but got thwarted by the captcha

...how?

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by TedDoesntTalk on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:11PM (#38311963)
There have been CAPTCHA problems with Steam for at least a year. Search "steam captcha broken" and you'll see endless Reddit threads about it. Last week it took me two days to get it to work - the only solution was to solve the CAPTCHA from a mobile device in order to do a password reset. CAPTCHA just did not work on MacOS or Windows at all. After solving the CATPCHA on mobile and resetting the password, I was able to use it to login via Windows and MacOS.

To add to the problem, there are numerous "solutions" about flushing DNS caches, disabling IPv6, using the audio CAPTCHA, and other tricks that just did not work for me. I tried every "solution" in a dozen threads until the mobile suggestion finally worked.

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by squeaky-clean on Friday November 17, 2023 @09:18PM (#38314155)
To add to the confusion, I encountered this about 2 weeks ago and power-cycling my router did fix it. My IP didn't change, so it must have been something cached on the router? It's just so weird that this issue has about 10 different "fixes" that may or may not work for someone.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by Findecanor on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:42PM (#38309900)
Is it really free, as in: free to download and then play without it having to dial home every time?
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by cwkoss on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:45PM (#38309986)
IIRC you should be able to download it and then put Steam into offline mode and it won't call home until you flip that toggle again... unless they changed how that works since I last fiddled with it. Might need to play once before flipping toggle off.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by nolist_policy on Friday November 17, 2023 @04:05PM (#38310314)
Its worth it for the assets alone, you can play hl with the open source xash3d engine.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by pacifika on Friday November 17, 2023 @04:52PM (#38310986)
What’s the benefit of doing that please?
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by fancy_pantser on Friday November 17, 2023 @05:18PM (#38311247)
It's a whole different engine that may have some advantages that make it worth checking out over or in addition to the updates Valve has made for this special release: improved performance (through a more efficient culling system, etc), support for modern features like dynamic lighting, use of HL mods on newer systems by providing compatibility fixes. The engine can also run other games and works on mobile devices with less common screen resolutions, but YMMV. For a while, it was a good fallback to the official game if you were having a problem with it on new or less-supported hardware, but with this anniversary release, maybe it is less "necessary" and more "cool" to use an OSS alternative engine.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by bombcar on Friday November 17, 2023 @05:21PM (#38311295)
Most engine reworks like that (Doom, Age of Empires, Heroes III, etc) offer significantly improved performance and scaling for modern computers.

There are often other enhancements, too, including native support for Mac, Linux, etc.

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by SXX on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:19PM (#38312055)
As one of authors of Heroes III one I could say Xash3D is amazing project worth to check for Source 1 game fans.

Valve support for their old games is outstanding and they all have native support, great performance, constant updates. It's like extremely rare for old games to be supported that well.

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by account42 on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:21AM (#38345307)
HL1 is already quite performant though and does have native support for Linux and Mac on Steam without needing third-party engines.

Not disputing that engine replacements / source ports can be great (I work on one myself) but it's weird that there are three replies that sidestep the actual question: What does this particular engine replacement add over vanilla GoldSrc?

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by Matl on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:36PM (#38312296)
bypassing Steam I presume?
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by squeaky-clean on Friday November 17, 2023 @09:22PM (#38314193)
The offline system for steam is way less glitchy than it was pre-2010. Like another commenter said though, you may need to be online the first time you launch the game.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by account42 on Monday November 20, 2023 @05:02AM (#38345732)
There is also the Goldberg Emulator [0] if you don't want to rely on Steam at all.

[0] https://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by bsimpson on Friday November 17, 2023 @04:58PM (#38311058)
I grabbed the free copy…and then fell down the rabbit hole and bought a bunch of other HL games for $6.

I'm just now getting into PC gaming via Linux. I've always had a Mac, so I missed a bunch of games like Half Life.

Now I'm wondering when I'll get to play any of them…

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by ProZsolt on Friday November 17, 2023 @08:13PM (#38313516)
Half Life was one of the games that has native ports an run fine on OSX before Catalina.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by kirso on Friday November 17, 2023 @08:21PM (#38313599)
One of the worst things that happen to MacOS is cutting support. Apple really is careless about gaming :(
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by SturgeonsLaw on Saturday November 18, 2023 @01:16AM (#38316093)
Apple doesn't care about backwards compatibility at all. Mac software is OS version dependent, and the OS version is hardware dependent, and if you don't have the approved OS and hardware combo then tough luck.

Say what you will about Windows and Microsoft, but they live and breathe backwards compatibility.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/windows-95-went-the-...

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by pipes on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:13AM (#38317263)
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by pipes on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:24AM (#38317344)
I'm about to do the same! Genius marketing on valves part!
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by bsimpson on Saturday November 18, 2023 @05:28PM (#38325311)
I was looking at all the $1 titles, and realized it wasn't worth the $5 I might save to figure out which ones to take and which to leave.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by timvisee on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:25AM (#38318220)
Black Mesa (the game) is also factastic. Highly recommend!
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by acomjean on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:49AM (#38318959)
I played through Black Mesa the game after visiting the “crowbar collective” booth at pax east, and missing half life the first time around. Really loved it.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/362890/Black_Mesa/

My understanding is Black Mesa is a half life with modern graphics. So now original half life is updated…

Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by xsmasher on Monday November 20, 2023 @06:25PM (#38356467)
And a complete overhaul of the "Xen" area, which was the weakest part of the original game.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by deafpolygon on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:27AM (#38318245)
Then that worked! Multiply $6 by 500,000. And Valve's got themselves a cool 3+mill.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by schmorptron on Sunday November 19, 2023 @01:39PM (#38336091)
If you have a VR headset, you could try the excellent VR mods for them, which makes them much more impressive to play nowadays in my opinion!
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by smcl on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:42PM (#38312368)
Oh damn, I still have my original Half Life CD key committed to memory. I wonder if that still works.
Re:Half-Life 25th Anniversary Update by OliveMate on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:48PM (#38312444)
IIRC redeeming a Half-Life or Counter-Strike CD key on Steam grants you the Half-Life 1 Anthology pack[1], so it's worth giving it a shot!

[1] https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/237/HalfLife_1_Antholo...