Also at first this objection really resonated with me. I think the meaning of OpenAI has spread pretty well now, and that it's getting to the point where raising this objection is tiresome.
There is an important point to be made about how it got popularized as being open and then they went and closed it while keeping the momentum, but that should be made instead of just saying, "wait, it's called OpenAI but isn't open?!?!"
However, stuff gets started as an open play all the time and gets closed, without open in the brand name, for instance https://ghuntley.com/fracture/ - hence the term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openwashing
https://community.openai.com/t/my-account-has-been-banned-fo... (see related topics for some more)
I can actually appreciate “open” as “open to access” or “open to actually having a product iso posturing about being so far ahead but never releasing anything worthwhile” (looking at Google).
I have no interest in renting someone else's black box. I'll run my own at home, and we have our own efforts at work.
Yeahno... that's not gonna suffice. Squeaky wheel gets the oil!
> Are we rioting against capitalism or something?
That would be nice... can we do it Fight Club style?
And its not about HN, it is about the larger community grumbling. Not that it will do anything but if they're going to annoy us with their disingenuous naming then we can annoy them by calling them out for it. There are a million other names of blithe corpo-jibberish they could use, but they didn't.
And it is oh-so-convenient how discussion that you don't like is "noise". Us smarties are fantastic at rationlizing arent we? Yes let's just limit the conversation to breathless panty-creaming only. I'm sure the CEO would really like that!
The other aspect you're missing is once you stop criticizing it, you are passively normalizing it. And that's horseshit - call out the fuckers that do bad shit more often because they deserve it. I am not saying you are a shill, but you are doing exactly what the company wants - normalizing their shitty behavior and defending them against criticism for it.
> Mr. Smith thought the word “federal” suggested an interest in nationwide economic activity, and hoped the name would resonate with the Federal Reserve Bank, a potential customer.
Edit: and don’t get me started on the Better Business “Bureau”
Don't get me wrong, I love open-source, open-weights research, but the elephant in the room is that people aren't willing to do that on dirt-poor postdoc salaries anymore, for good reasons.
Edit:
OpenAI is a corporation and their stakeholders include Microsoft, Peter Thiel, and Infosys.
Yeah, not really surprising that they are not "Open".
I still can't believe such a deal is legal.